More Americans believe in global warming

More Americans believe in global warming

There are 240 comments on the Polk County Democrat story from Oct 18, 2012, titled More Americans believe in global warming. In it, Polk County Democrat reports that:

For the first time since the United States entered a deep recession five years ago, 70 percent of Americans now say they believe global warming is a reality, according to researchers.

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“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

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#225 Nov 2, 2012
litesong wrote:
I haven't dealt with actual fossil fuel tonnage burned. However, I think actual CO2 produced since the pre-industrial age is in the order of 3 trillion tons.... possibly more since much of the CO2 has been absorbed by the oceans, seas & other waters, which are showing a change in chemistry.
Burn baby, burn!

I like litesong's number best.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#226 Nov 3, 2012
So did the subway flood in 2007?
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#227 Nov 3, 2012
PHD wrote:
So did the subway flood in 2007?
Define what you mean by 'flood'? They shut down the subway because water on the tracks was above or threatening to short the third rail? Do puddles count?

But, yes, they did use the word 'flood' as the water was pouring in the stairs and platforms. The service had to stop (till the end of the rain, not much longer).

Same thing happened in 2004.
litesong

Everett, WA

#228 Nov 3, 2012
litesong wrote:
Arctic sea ice, either by satellite or submarine data, is above the 2007 and 2011 Arctic sea ice extent AND, a month later than 'normal', the sea ice average for the decades of 2000's, AND THE 1990's, at 7,688,438 km2 (November 1, 2012), the day's gain, dropping to less than Maine's area. The sun has been unseen from the North Pole for 6 plus weeks, temperatures above the 80th parallel, NOT NOW lower than the last three weeks of dates for 2007 & other recent years, temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean, as low as -22 degC in Fairbanks! After the Arctic cold outbreak, which has added three plus feet of snow to the results of Hurricane Sandy, Arctic cold is once more building.

Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of October 2, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~23% lower than any satellite recorded year AND indications of submarine-detected Arctic sea ice yearly VOLUME.
Yes, the Arctic sea ice VOLUME is disappearing, year to year, quicker than the Arctic sea ice extent.
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litesong continues
Presently, Arctic sea ice extent is above 2007 AND 2011, the average minimum Arctic sea ice extent for the 2000's, the 1990's, & now the 1980's, at 7,725,625 km2 (November 2, 2012), the day's gain, dropping again, this time to less than Maryland-size, altho average temperature above the 80th parallel has continued to drop, now to -23 degC. Present temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean, are way below freezing, numerous areas into minus teen digits. Many northern Canadian islands have lower temperatures than Siberia, tho a bit higher than previous days, as low as -22degC. THE SOLID SWATH OF COLD SIBERIAN TEMPS, a bit higher than weeks before, presently even at -14degC, which may account for the last few days of lower Ice Pack increases.

The vast open Arctic waters north of Siberia have been covered by Arctic Ice Pack. The huge sea ice floes that strongly developed in the vast clear waters north of Siberia(due to broad double digit minus Siberian temps spilled from North Pole's 6 plus weeks of darkness & vortex mixing breaking down stratified solar heated waters?), have done their job AND connected the Ice Pack to the entire Siberian coastline, truly a remarkable development!

However, Franz Joseph Land & Svalbard are still clear of the Ice Pack & so is the northern coast of Alaska!!!

A detail noted 3 weeks ago is a raggy taggy developing edge along a part of the semi-circle, possibly NOT coincidental with the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS (plus?) OF SQUARE KILOMETERS, of waters north of Alaska & Siberia that are VASTLY CLEAR. Might the raggy taggy edge indicate huge turbulence & currents in this largest(ever?) ice free, & resulting southerly-directed heat stratified Arctic waters? I wonder if there might develop more raggy taggy edging, enough to form a swirl pattern?
Twenty days ago, noted near the raggy taggy ice pack, developed 3 tiny pixel ice floes(arced?), separated from the Arctic ice pack toward southerly directions. Nineteen days ago, the number of ice floes increased to 8 & indeed they formed an ARC. Pretty sure they represent a large scale vortex in open Arctic water!
Further data, show that the vortex is true!

Downwelling solar heats, in unusual clear Arctic Ocean & seas, normally sea ice covered in decades past, which have strongly transported extra solar energy to continental shelf, sea & Ocean depths for 4 months, is over. The sun is nearly unseen anywhere above the 75th parallel, shrouding the Arctic with darkness for a good portion of the year! Now, only Alaskan, far north European, & far western Russian southern Arctic seas get a skimming from the sun for a few hours a day, which is only single digit degrees off the horizon, at most!
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#229 Nov 4, 2012
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
Define what you mean by 'flood'? They shut down the subway because water on the tracks was above or threatening to short the third rail? Do puddles count?
But, yes, they did use the word 'flood' as the water was pouring in the stairs and platforms. The service had to stop (till the end of the rain, not much longer).
Same thing happened in 2004.
My how the truth works it way out if you ask the question again. Thanks for clearing that up. Well maybe if the subway was flooded with jell it wouldn't be considered a flood.
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#230 Nov 4, 2012
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>My how the truth works it way out if you ask the question again. Thanks for clearing that up. Well maybe if the subway was flooded with jell it wouldn't be considered a flood.
By definition, correct.

Two definitions apply here.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/flood
It is a flood if you use:
"An overflowing of water onto land that is normally dry"

It isn't a flood if you require:
"To become inundated or submerged"

Both are valid definitions.

But jello is not involved in any of them. That would be more of a 'food fight'.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#231 Nov 4, 2012
In USA:

Flood water

The exact definition will depend on your policy wording. At present, there is no standard flood definition. If the water that caused your loss does not meet this wording, then it is arguable that your insurer is liable.
litesong

Everett, WA

#232 Dec 14, 2012
Arctic sea ice extent is 11,073,906 km2 (December 12, 2012), the day's gain, Massachusetts-sized. Present temperatures on Arctic Canadian islands, mainland, & Siberia are to minus mid-thirties degC. Average temperatures above the 80th parallel has dropped to -23degC.

The sun has been unseen from the North Pole for 12 weeks! Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of November, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~21% lower than any other year Arctic sea ice yearly VOLUME. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME during November for the period 1980-89, was ~18 thousand km3. Present November 2012 sea ice VOLUME is 6200 km3. The Arctic sea ice loss has been an uncontrolled plummet, desired by unscientific AGW deniers, who mostly have no or little mathematical or science background.
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litesong continues:
Presently, Arctic sea ice extent is 11,103,281 km2 (December 13, 2012), the day's gain, Hawaii-sized. Four of the last five days' gain have been very small state-sized. However, present temperatures on Arctic Canadian islands, the mainland & Siberia, are to the mid-thirties degC & to as low as -39degC. The southern tip of Greenland has cooled a bit to 5degC or 41degF.

Continued cold along Canadian islands has caused west Baffin Bay to ice, altho the eastern Bay along Greenland remains thinly clear! Temperatures across Baffin Bay dramatically drop, east to west. Due to solar heats absorbed into the shallow waters of Hudson Bay, the Bay has resisted icing. With past temperatures as low as -40 degC, due to cold spillage from the North Pole, the Bay is now icing, broadly north to south, & nearly the entire west side.

Long resisting the Arctic Ice Pack, Chief Joseph Land is now widely encircled by Arctic Ice Pack, due to 24/7 hours of darkness & a shifting but long enduring vortex, that moved cold Arctic sea water southward to the islands. Svalbard, also in winter darkness 24/7, is still clear of the Ice Pack, as is Novaya Zemlya,!!!!!!!!!

A detail noted a month & a half ago, is a raggy taggy developing edge along a part of the semi-circle Ice Pack, possibly NOT coincidental with the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS (plus?) OF SQUARE KILOMETERS, of waters north of Alaska & Siberia that are VASTLY CLEAR. Might the raggy taggy edge indicate huge turbulence & currents in this largest(ever?) ice free, & resulting southerly-directed heat stratified Arctic waters? I wonder if there might develop more raggy taggy edging, enough to form a swirl pattern?
Near the raggy taggy Ice Pack, developed 3 tiny pixel ice floes(arced?), separated from the Arctic ice pack toward southerly directions. A day later, the number of ice floes increased to 8 & indeed they formed an ARC. Pretty sure they represent a large scale vortex in open Arctic water!
Further data, showed that the vortex was true!

The sun has been unseen from the North Pole for 12 weeks & presently anywhere above the 67th parallel, now shrouding the Arctic with darkness for a good portion of the year! The sun is less than one third arcdeg above its farthest position to the south, due to the tilt of the Earth & present orbital position!
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#233 Dec 15, 2012
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
By definition, correct.
Two definitions apply here.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/flood
It is a flood if you use:
"An overflowing of water onto land that is normally dry"
It isn't a flood if you require:
"To become inundated or submerged"
Both are valid definitions.
But jello is not involved in any of them. That would be more of a 'food fight'.
Thanks for clearing that up but I said jell not jello.Would that make a difference. Maybe Spaceblues could clear that.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#234 Dec 22, 2012
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for clearing that up but I said jell not jello.Would that make a difference. Maybe Spaceblues could clear that.
Sure.

Read my previous post.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#235 Dec 22, 2012
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Sure.
Read my previous post.
So was it jell or jello?
litesong

Everett, WA

#236 Dec 24, 2012
Arctic sea ice extent is 11,519,531 km2 (December 22, 2012), the day's gain, a bit more than Indiana-sized. Present temperatures on Arctic Canadian islands, mainland, & Siberia are commonly to minus mid-thirties degC & less. Average temperatures above the 80th parallel at -26degC.

The sun has been unseen from the North Pole for 3+months! Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of December, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~13% lower than any other set of years of Arctic sea ice monthly VOLUME. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME during December for the period 1980-89, was ~20 thousand km3. Present December 2012 sea ice VOLUME is 9600 km3. The Arctic sea ice loss has been an uncontrolled plummet, desired by unscientific AGW deniers, who mostly have no or little mathematical or science background.
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litesong continues:
Presently, with recent previous gains mostly small state sized, this date 11,507,969 km2 (December 23, 2012), this day's LOSS, that of Connecticut, the 2nd day's recorded loss in 3 days. Sea ice losses recorded during wintertime, can often indicate North Pole cold fronts spilling to the South. Present temperatures on Arctic Canadian islands, the mainland & Siberia, are to the minus mid-thirties degC & less.

Eastern Baffin Bay along Greenland remains thinly clear!!!!!! Temperatures across Baffin Bay dramatically drop, east to west. Due to solar heats absorbed into the shallow waters of Hudson Bay, the Bay has resisted icing. With past temperatures as low as -40 degC, due to cold spillage from the North Pole, the Bay has iced over, except for the small southeast, which now has enlarged for a time.

Long resisting the Arctic Ice Pack, Chief Joseph Land is now widely encircled by Arctic Ice Pack, due to 24/7 hours of darkness & a shifting but long enduring vortex, that moved cold Arctic sea water southward to the islands. However, with a vortex near by, a patch of fairly large ocean water opened up within the encirclement, & continued for 4 days. During my reports, a vortex has generally led to Arctic Pack Ice advancement. In this case, it appears to be the opposite. However, the patch has iced over again. Svalbard, also in winter darkness 24/7, is still clear of the Ice Pack, as is Novaya Zemlya,!!!!!!!!!

A detail noted ~two+ months ago, is a raggy taggy developing edge along a part of the semi-circle Ice Pack, possibly NOT coincidental with the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS (plus?) OF SQUARE KILOMETERS, of waters north of Alaska & Siberia that are VASTLY CLEAR. Might the raggy taggy edge indicate huge turbulence & currents in this largest(ever?) ice free, & resulting southerly-directed heat stratified Arctic waters? I wonder if there might develop more raggy taggy edging, enough to form a swirl pattern?
Days later, near the raggy taggy Ice Pack, 3 tiny pixel ice floes(arced?) developed, separated from the Arctic ice pack toward southerly directions. A day later, the number of ice floes increased to 8 & indeed they formed an ARC. Pretty sure they represent a large scale vortex in open Arctic water!
Further data, showed that the vortex was true!

The sun has been unseen from the North Pole for 3+months & presently anywhere above the 67th parallel, now shrouding the Arctic with darkness for a good portion of the year! The sun is at its farthest position to the south, due to the tilt of the Earth & present orbital position!
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#237 Dec 25, 2012
pinheadlitesout wrote:
Arctic sea ice extent is 11,519,531 km2 (December 22, 2012), the day's gain, a bit more than Indiana-sized. Present temperatures on Arctic Canadian islands, mainland, & Siberia are commonly to minus mid-thirties degC & less. Average temperatures above the 80th parallel at -26degC.
The sun has been unseen from the North Pole for 3+months! Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of December, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~13% lower than any other set of years of Arctic sea ice monthly VOLUME. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME during December for the period 1980-89, was ~20 thousand km3. Present December 2012 sea ice VOLUME is 9600 km3. The Arctic sea ice loss has been an uncontrolled plummet, desired by unscientific AGW deniers, who mostly have no or little mathematical or science background.
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pinheadlitesout continues:
Presently, with recent previous gains mostly small state sized, this date 11,507,969 km2 (December 23, 2012), this day's LOSS, that of Connecticut, the 2nd day's recorded loss in 3 days. Sea ice losses recorded during wintertime, can often indicate North Pole cold fronts spilling to the South. Present temperatures on Arctic Canadian islands, the mainland & Siberia, are to the minus mid-thirties degC & less.
Eastern Baffin Bay along Greenland remains thinly clear!!!!!! Temperatures across Baffin Bay dramatically drop, east to west. Due to solar heats absorbed into the shallow waters of Hudson Bay, the Bay has resisted icing. With past temperatures as low as -40 degC, due to cold spillage from the North Pole, the Bay has iced over, except for the small southeast, which now has enlarged for a time.
Long resisting the Arctic Ice Pack, Chief Joseph Land is now widely encircled by Arctic Ice Pack, due to 24/7 hours of darkness & a shifting but long enduring vortex, that moved cold Arctic sea water southward to the islands. However, with a vortex near by, a patch of fairly large ocean water opened up within the encirclement, & continued for 4 days. During my reports, a vortex has generally led to Arctic Pack Ice advancement. In this case, it appears to be the opposite. However, the patch has iced over again. Svalbard, also in winter darkness 24/7, is still clear of the Ice Pack, as is Novaya Zemlya,!!!!!!!!!
A detail noted ~two+ months ago, is a raggy taggy developing edge along a part of the semi-circle Ice Pack, possibly NOT coincidental with the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS (plus?) OF SQUARE KILOMETERS, of waters north of Alaska & Siberia that are VASTLY CLEAR. Might the raggy taggy edge indicate huge turbulence & currents in this largest(ever?) ice free, & resulting southerly-directed heat stratified Arctic waters? I wonder if there might develop more raggy taggy edging, enough to form a swirl pattern?
Days later, near the raggy taggy Ice Pack, 3 tiny pixel ice floes(arced?) developed, separated from the Arctic ice pack toward southerly directions. A day later, the number of ice floes increased to 8 & indeed they formed an ARC. Pretty sure they represent a large scale vortex in open Arctic water!
Further data, showed that the vortex was true!
The sun has been unseen from the North Pole for 3+months & presently anywhere above the 67th parallel, now shrouding the Arctic with darkness for a good portion of the year! The sun is at its farthest position to the south, due to the tilt of the Earth & present orbital position!
More useless babble from the pinheadlitesout. So what did Mr. Miller say pinheadlitesout?
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#238 Dec 30, 2012
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>More useless babble from the [name calling]. So what did Mr. Miller say [name calling]?
Calling for either Mr. Miller or Muller. Which one?

You are ph'd.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#239 Dec 30, 2012
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>So was it jell or jello?
Troll. Ignnored.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#240 Dec 30, 2012
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Troll. Ignnored.
So you can't explain.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#242 Oct 17, 2014
FugYou wrote:
We have satellite observations that show extra CO2 added to the atmosphere by man is warming the planet.
That would be a pretty picture.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#243 Oct 17, 2014
More Americans believe in global warming than the Easter Bunny.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#244 Oct 17, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
More Americans believe in global warming than the Easter Bunny.
Probably because there's only one (mythical) Easter Bunny.
dont drink the koolaid

Minneapolis, MN

#245 Oct 17, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
More Americans believe in global warming than the Easter Bunny.
That's because Americans know the Easter Bunny Froze to death last Spring due to ...
"Atmospheric Anthropogenic Carbon Dioxide Driven Bunnystrophic Climate Disruption"!

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