About That Global Warming Pause

About That Global Warming Pause

There are 6 comments on the Bad Astronomy Blog story from Apr 9, 2013, titled About That Global Warming Pause. In it, Bad Astronomy Blog reports that:

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PHD

Thornton, TX

#1 Apr 9, 2013
There is an older saying. Scientific science fiction has run its course. It’s time to mission statement, buzz word issue to extract more tax dollars from the real tax payers.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#2 Apr 9, 2013
Fred Pierce let's the "sceptics" get away with too much.
Roger Pielke Jr., an environmental studies professor at the University of Colorado at Boulder, who enjoys baiting the mainstream, told me last month:”It is good to see climate scientists catching up with the bloggers. They should ask why it took so long to acknowledge what has been apparent to most observers for some time.”
Later on:
...“the heat that has been absorbed recently by the ocean might very well be released back to the atmosphere soon. This would be the scenario of highest probability. It would mean an increased rate of [atmospheric] warming in the next decade.”

It would indeed. If natural cycles start pushing towards strong warming, they will add to the continued inexorable upward push from rising concentrations of heat-trapping greenhouse gases. In that case, we would see climate change returning to the rapid pace of the 1990s.
The "sceptics" are claiming that warming is less than expected so AGW is less of a problem based on a short term plateau in warming that says very little about the trend over many decades.

Science has always said that natural variation over short periods can mask warming for periods of a decade or so.

Here's an example from 2009, and what a surprise, the "sceptics" were out to misrepresent it.

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/T9BQRV6LMIG...

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#3 Apr 9, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
Fred Pierce let's the "sceptics" get away with too much.
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Later on:
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The "sceptics" are claiming that warming is less than expected so AGW is less of a problem based on a short term plateau in warming that says very little about the trend over many decades.
Science has always said that natural variation over short periods can mask warming for periods of a decade or so.
Here's an example from 2009, and what a surprise, the "sceptics" were out to misrepresent it.
http://www.topix.com/forum/health/T9BQRV6LMIG...
Correction:

Fred Pierce lets the "sceptics" get away with too much.

Just in case earthling is around.
Fun Facts

Huntsville, AL

#4 Apr 10, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
Fred Pierce let's the "sceptics" get away with too much.
<quoted text>
Later on:
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The "sceptics" are claiming that warming is less than expected so AGW is less of a problem based on a short term plateau in warming that says very little about the trend over many decades.
Science has always said that natural variation over short periods can mask warming for periods of a decade or so.
Here's an example from 2009, and what a surprise, the "sceptics" were out to misrepresent it.
http://www.topix.com/forum/health/T9BQRV6LMIG...
2009, ah so long ago, but nothing has changed.

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I have been posting papers on the solar cycles of the sun that have predicted cooling for the next 20-30 years.

Seems like someone else has read them and realized if the end of the "cycles also explained the recent recovery of the Sahel region of Africa from the droughts of the 1970s and 1980s." could be predicted, and it was based on solar cycles, then maybe a good look at the solar cycles could explain what happened in the last 30 years.

The same scientist that predicted the end of the Sahelian drought also predicted the last three El Ninos based on the solar cycles.

Scaffeti and West wrote a paper on the lack of reliable information on the sun in climate computer models, because the models don't use the solar cycle patterns that have been recently developed.

In earth science, there are two major thoughts: the steady state and the chaos theory. Neither is correct. There is no steady state and what we see in climate is not chaos. There are many climate patterns that repeat themselves at various time intervals. It is hard to discern the patterns as they overlay each other and have specific manifestations depending on the relationship of one pattern to another.

We have the ability to observe and record what we see and to eventually understand what we see. We do not have the ability to change what our climate is like.

We will adapt or perish, which will be determined by either our acceptance of our natural world, or our arogance in trying to change our natural world.

Our next challenge will be drought...we need to forget CO2 and focus on how we will get water to the crop growing regions of our world."

Drought?
Fun Facts

Huntsville, AL

#5 Apr 10, 2013
Something has changed. The sun.

http://www.solen.info/solar/images/comparison...

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#6 Apr 10, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
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2009, ah so long ago, but nothing has changed.
Nah, you're still some internet crank predicting global cooling.

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