Give us a mandate for what America needs: a Green New Deal | Jill Stein

Oct 14, 2012 Full story: The Guardian 35

We've heard Democrats' and Republicans' promises before and their Wall Street-driven policies have failed.

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“Proud To Be An American”

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#1 Oct 14, 2012
Thank you green slime but we already have a communist in the White House and things are just not working out...so take your smelly socialism and shove it.

“Truth to Power!”

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#2 Oct 14, 2012


Another Green Deal?

Are you crazy?

Jackass Obama has been greasing Green Deals that have 2 things in Common:

1) They Go Bankrupt at an astonishing rate.
2) They take Millions or Billions of Tax Payer $$$ and move to China.


"Obama's administration is very good at Picking Losers."




We need ENERGY jobs which will drive manufacturing, installation construction, production, and service jobs. Mitt Romney understands this and has a plan to unfasten the handcuffs the Jackal Obama has placed on our Energy market. He'll re-open coal that idiot Obama has shut down. He'll help restore Jobs and Prosperity lost under Barack Hussein Obama.

We need someone that will finally work to help the American Family (Romney). Not Obama's cronies on wall street or union thugs.

We need someone that recognizes the desperate need for Bi-Partisanship in the WH. Not some petulant Jerk that walks into a meeting claiming "I WON."

We know Obama is just the opposite of what the country needs. The Debate proved that. Now it's time to do the right thing for the country and Vote Romney/Ryan 2012.


We can do this.
Mitt Romney: For America

Barack Obama: For Bitter Partisanship & Campaign Donors.

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#3 Oct 14, 2012
"The actual number was more like $21 billion. I know, because I helped oversee the administration's efforts in this area.

The larger number refers to all of the investments in the 2009 stimulus package that the administration designated "green" in any way. The number included $6 billion for advanced batteries to make electric cars possible,$29 billion for energy efficiency and home retrofits,$3 billion for job training, and even $18 billion for transit and high speed rail. To pretend that all of that money went to solar and wind companies is ludicrous.
Worse, Romney alleged that the administration picked only "losers." False.
First of all, many of these initiatives began under President George W. Bush, including some of the loan guarantee programs Romney likes to attack. With the exception of Solyndra, the track record for renewable energy investments is strong. In fact, the failure rate is lower than Congress anticipated when they created these programs -- and, while we're on the topic, higher than Romney's 80% success rate at Bain Capital."

“Truth to Power!”

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#4 Oct 14, 2012


swedenpig: You're so full of shit.

Obama's record of Bankruptcies is broad and covers not only Energy by the Auto industry. Obama put GM into Bankruptcy. Then he directed the Federal Judge to give GM a TAX FREE Corporate Status for Year while taking Bondholders money away and redistributing it to union Scum.


You are part of the Problem.

“Truth to Power!”

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#5 Oct 14, 2012
swedenforever wrote:
"The actual number was more like $21 billion. I know, because I helped oversee the administration's efforts in this area.
The larger number refers to all of the investments in the 2009 stimulus package that the administration designated "green" in any way. The number included $6 billion for advanced batteries to make electric cars possible,$29 billion for energy efficiency and home retrofits,$3 billion for job training, and even $18 billion for transit and high speed rail. To pretend that all of that money went to solar and wind companies is ludicrous.
Worse, Romney alleged that the administration picked only "losers." False.
First of all, many of these initiatives began under President George W. Bush, including some of the loan guarantee programs Romney likes to attack. With the exception of Solyndra, the track record for renewable energy investments is strong. In fact, the failure rate is lower than Congress anticipated when they created these programs -- and, while we're on the topic, higher than Romney's 80% success rate at Bain Capital."



Liar.










Grading Obama's Green Energy Stimulus "Investments": Epic Fail

Friday, August 10, 2012

Earlier this year (in January), President Obama declared in his State of the Union speech that he would not "cede the wind or solar or battery industry to China or Germany". He wanted to "double down on a clean energy industry that has never been more promising".

What brought this up, you ask?

Well, earlier this week, I noticed an article in my iGoogle page in the Google News widget that Waltham, Massachusetts-based company, A123 Systems, was being bought out by a Chinese conglomerate (Wanxiang Group). In 2009, when the Obama Administration provided financial relief to this company to the tune of a $250 million grant on top of the $135 million in grants and tax breaks that it got from the state of Michigan (for building a factory in 2010 and where it recently laid off 17% of its workforce), a $30 million grant for a federal wind energy storage project, and another $380 million that they made from their IPO that same year, their stock value peaked at around $25.77/share. Today?$0.45/share. The Chinese are literally buying this clean energy company that the Obama Administration wasted our tax dollars on for pennies on the dollar - but in a way, thank God they are, or A123 Systems would be filing for bankruptcy and every employee would be losing their job.

This news got me thinking: what other green energy companies has the Obama Administration used tax payer money to invest in? How are they doing? We all know about Solyndra because it was a very public and embarrassing bust for the Obama Administration, but what about the others?

I decided to do a little research and find out...

Tesla Motor Company

Tesla Motors is actually one of the more promising of the green energy stimulus recipients (having actually met their June 2012 deadline of delivering the first of their Model S electrical cars - 29 delivered as of the end of July!), but even their future isn't bright enough to force me to wear shades.

In June, 2009, Tesla Motors received a $465 million loan from the Department of Energy. Of this $465 million loan, Tesla owner and Obama campaign donor, Elon Musk, reportedly pocketed $15 million. I have to wonder if there was any political back-scratching going on here...

What Filth!


https://lpo.energy.gov/...

“Truth to Power!”

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#6 Oct 14, 2012
swedenforever wrote:
"The actual number was more like $21 billion. I know, because I helped oversee the administration's efforts in this area.
The larger number refers to all of the investments in the 2009 stimulus package that the administration designated "green" in any way. The number included $6 billion for advanced batteries to make electric cars possible,$29 billion for energy efficiency and home retrofits,$3 billion for job training, and even $18 billion for transit and high speed rail. To pretend that all of that money went to solar and wind companies is ludicrous.
Worse, Romney alleged that the administration picked only "losers." False.
First of all, many of these initiatives began under President George W. Bush, including some of the loan guarantee programs Romney likes to attack. With the exception of Solyndra, the track record for renewable energy investments is strong. In fact, the failure rate is lower than Congress anticipated when they created these programs -- and, while we're on the topic, higher than Romney's 80% success rate at Bain Capital."




Secretary Chu Announces Closing of $465 Million Loan to Tesla Motors

January 21, 2010

Washington, DC – Today, Secretary of Energy Steven Chu announced the Department of Energy has closed its $465 million loan with Tesla Motors, Inc. for construction of a manufacturing facility in southern California on the Model S electric sedan and a power-train manufacturing facility in Palo Alto, California. The Palo Alto facility will assemble electric vehicle battery packs, electric motors, and related electric vehicle control equipment, both for Tesla’s own electric vehicles and for sale to other automobile manufacturers.

The agreement was negotiated and signed by the Department’s Loan Programs Office, which supports the development of innovative, advanced vehicle technologies to create thousands of clean energy jobs while helping reduce the nation’s dependence on foreign oil.

“This is an investment in our clean energy future that will create jobs and reduce our dependence on foreign oil,” said Secretary Chu.




Telsa has sold 29 Cars.

- 29 -


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“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

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#7 Oct 14, 2012

Tesla Motors posts wider quarterly loss

By Dana Hull
Posted: 07/25/2012


PALO ALTO -- Tesla Motors (TSLA), while reporting a wider quarterly loss, sought Wednesday to assure Wall Street it remains on track to deliver 5,000 units of its all-electric Model S sedan by the end of 2012.

No cars have been delivered to customers since a highly-publicized June 22 event, when the company handed over the keys to the first 10 cars a month ahead of schedule. Analysts are questioning the company's ability to sharply ramp-up production in time to meet the year-end target.

Revenue plunged to $27 million in the second quarter, down from $30.2 million in the first quarter and $58.2 million a year ago. The company also posted a wider loss of $106 million, or $1 a share, compared with a loss of $89.9 million and 86 cents a share in the previous quarter.

29 cars sold in 2012.

Several analysts peppered Tesla with questions about the exact nature of Tesla's "S-curve." Tesla is currently making about 10 cars a week, a figure that will need to increase to 375 a week, starting in October, to stay on track.

"I don't think they'll make 5,000 cars this year," said Theo O'Neill, an analyst with Wunderlich Securities, who published a scathing research note earlier this week. "They are going to have to raise more cash, and the fact that they haven't gotten the interior right is a problem."

Will Obama screw the Tax Payer for another Tesla Bail Out?



http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_211569...

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#8 Oct 14, 2012
swedenforever wrote:
"The actual number was more like $21 billion. I know, because I helped oversee the administration's efforts in this area.
The larger number refers to all of the investments in the 2009 stimulus package that the administration designated "green" in any way. The number included $6 billion for advanced batteries to make electric cars possible,$29 billion for energy efficiency and home retrofits,$3 billion for job training, and even $18 billion for transit and high speed rail. To pretend that all of that money went to solar and wind companies is ludicrous.
Worse, Romney alleged that the administration picked only "losers." False.
First of all, many of these initiatives began under President George W. Bush, including some of the loan guarantee programs Romney likes to attack. With the exception of Solyndra, the track record for renewable energy investments is strong. In fact, the failure rate is lower than Congress anticipated when they created these programs -- and, while we're on the topic, higher than Romney's 80% success rate at Bain Capital."
Full of crap much?
You and Van Jones are perfect together.

Since: Nov 08

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#9 Oct 14, 2012
swedenforever wrote:
"The actual number was more like $21 billion. I know, because I helped oversee the administration's efforts in this area.
The larger number refers to all of the investments in the 2009 stimulus package that the administration designated "green" in any way. The number included $6 billion for advanced batteries to make electric cars possible,$29 billion for energy efficiency and home retrofits,$3 billion for job training, and even $18 billion for transit and high speed rail. To pretend that all of that money went to solar and wind companies is ludicrous.
Worse, Romney alleged that the administration picked only "losers." False.
First of all, many of these initiatives began under President George W. Bush, including some of the loan guarantee programs Romney likes to attack. With the exception of Solyndra, the track record for renewable energy investments is strong. In fact, the failure rate is lower than Congress anticipated when they created these programs -- and, while we're on the topic, higher than Romney's 80% success rate at Bain Capital."
You don't have to be a genius. Just look at Spain(some people can't see the forest for the trees)
Gravediggers

United States

#10 Oct 14, 2012
Obama's Green = Budget Red

FAILED DOMESTIC POLICY

FAILED FOREIGN POLICY

NO in NOvember

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

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#11 Oct 14, 2012

Obama's miserable Record screwing the Tax Payer and Repaying Campaign Contributors

Solyndra,
Ener1,
Fisker,
and Tesla.

The first two – a solar-panel manufacturer that got $528 million in federal subsidies and a car-battery company that got up to $118 million – went bankrupt.

“Truth to Power!”

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United States

#12 Oct 14, 2012

Obama: The OUTSOURCER IN CHIEF


Plug-in hybrid car manufacturer Fisker is still afloat, but delays and high-profile failures have pushed it to begin talks with other companies to share parts and technology.

After getting a $529 million Obama federal loan guarantee, it began assembling its cars in Finland.


“Truth to Power!”

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#13 Oct 14, 2012
swedenforever wrote:
"The actual number was more like $21 billion. I know, because I helped oversee the administration's efforts in this area.
The larger number refers to all of the investments in the 2009 stimulus package that the administration designated "green" in any way. The number included $6 billion for advanced batteries to make electric cars possible,$29 billion for energy efficiency and home retrofits,$3 billion for job training, and even $18 billion for transit and high speed rail. To pretend that all of that money went to solar and wind companies is ludicrous.
Worse, Romney alleged that the administration picked only "losers." False.
First of all, many of these initiatives began under President George W. Bush, including some of the loan guarantee programs Romney likes to attack. With the exception of Solyndra, the track record for renewable energy investments is strong. In fact, the failure rate is lower than Congress anticipated when they created these programs -- and, while we're on the topic, higher than Romney's 80% success rate at Bain Capital."



Obama Must Stop Doing the Electric Slide

His green-jobs agenda wastes taxpayer dollars, while programs that help our community suffer.

By: Michael Steele
Posted: March 19, 2012

Despite blaming Bush for two years, and constant moans about uncooperative Republicans along the way, President Barack Obama and congressional Democrats cannot be accused of not being successful in implementing major portions of their agenda since 2009. Never mind that this "success" has resulted in our nation drowning in debt ($15.5 trillion and counting).

In early 2009 the then-Democrat-controlled Congress passed, and Obama signed into law, an $800 billion jobs stimulus package that did very little to jump-start the country's main economic engine, the private sector. While private-sector employers continued to hemorrhage jobs, most of that $800 billion was spent to ensure that government-sector jobs were spared the ax. Consistent with that effort, the president's budgetary manipulation of the tax code in order to socially engineer the move toward a big-government green agenda also came into sharp focus.

The idea of obtaining a natural gas or electric vehicle through a "tax incentive" at a car dealership is just a small part of the Obama green agenda.

The genesis of Obama's green agenda can perhaps be traced to Oct. 27, 2009, when Vice President Joe Biden announced that Fisker Automotive would produce plug-in hybrid electric vehicles in Wilmington, Del. Since that time, taxpayers have provided $529 million in federal loan guarantees to the firm. No vehicles were ever made in the United States, and the staff was laid off in February. Yet the company is going back to the Department of Energy for more help.

In January 2011 Biden was at it again when he visited the Ener1 plant in Greenfield, Ind., to praise its plan to manufacture batteries for electric cars. "We're going to reshape how Americans drive," Biden proclaimed. Again, taxpayers were put on the hook for $118.5 million. Yet no batteries were produced, and this year Ener1 filed for federal bankruptcy protection.

But the most infamous of the stimulus boondoggles was the $535 million taxpayer-guaranteed loan the White House secured for the green-jobs company Solyndra. Today Solyndra lies bankrupt and under investigation by the FBI.

Thanks Obama!




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#14 Oct 14, 2012


Obama's Green Energy Failures Continue To Abound

Posted 07/03/2012

Another stimulus-backed solar panel maker, one the president touted in a weekly radio address, is filing for bankruptcy. The administration's green-energy efforts continue to grow a deeper shade of red.

After receiving some $70 million in federal loans, Abound Solar, a Colorado-based firm that was developing thin-film solar panels, has announced it will follow an earlier Obama administration green energy failure, Solyndra, into bankruptcy.

Like Solyndra, Abound's bankruptcy is a bitter echo of the hype generated by President Obama in his weekly radio address exactly two years ago when he touted his push for a clean energy economy. Abound Solar, he said, would manufacture advanced solar panels at two new plants, creating more than 2,000 construction jobs and 1,500 permanent jobs at plants in Indiana and Colorado.

Abound apparently wasn't even helped by last July's $9.2 million Export-Import Bank loan to support exports of thin-film solar photovoltaic modules to Punj Lloyd Solar Power Ltd., a company in India building a 5-megawatt solar project located on a 62.5-acre site near the village of Bap.

Three years ago, when Obama's Department of Energy started approving roughly $16 billion in federal loan guarantees for solar energy companies, the DOE agreed to put taxpayers' money behind startups that were working on ways to make solar panels cheaper. Two, Solyndra and Abound, have now gone belly-up.

The other two solar manufacturing companies with loan guarantees, SoloPower and 1366 Rechnologies, have not actually borrowed any taxpayer money so far. This is probably a good thing as solar energy's promise is eclipsed by a real energy boom in oil and natural gas from shale. It is also fortunate for taxpayers that Abound drew only $70 million out of a $400 million line of credit.

In a January report, Sheryl Attkisson of CBS News counted at least 12 clean-energy companies that were having trouble after collectively being approved for more than $6.5 billion in federal assistance. Five had filed for bankruptcy: the junk bond-rated Beacon Power, Evergreen Solar, SpectraWatt, AES subsidiary Eastern Energy and the now-infamous Solyndra. Now we have a sixth — Abound Solar.

Read More At IBD: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/0703...

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#15 Oct 14, 2012


Ener1, maker of batteries that were supposed to power Obama's electric car fleet, filed for bankruptcy in January. Just as American tax dollars have gone to subsidize electric cars made in Finland by Fisker Automotive, state-of-the-art battery technology developed by Ener1 that was also supposed to rejuvenate the American auto industry is now owned outright by Boris Zingarevich, a Russian businessman with ties to former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev.

Zingarevich, who was Ener1's largest shareholder from the beginning in 2002, acquired Ener1 out of bankruptcy March 30. The company had tapped the country's top scientists at Argonne National Lab in Illinois, and Washington pledged up to $118 million in stimulus funds from an administration that has grabbed American taxpayers by the throat. Another $80 million in state and local incentives was dedicated to help Ener1 produce cutting-edge battery technology for electric cars and the U.S. military. Now that technology is owned by a Russian tycoon.

Read More At IBD: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/0703...

“Truth to Power!”

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#16 Oct 14, 2012


As the latest in a string of Obama green energy flops, Abound Solar shows Obama has quite a green-energy gambling addiction. Of course many of these companies contributed Millions to Obama's Campaign.

This is an administration that insists on picking winners and losers in the market, with an unenviable record of choosing the latter. Fortunately, the American people get to pick their own winners and losers in November.

Read More At IBD: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/0703...

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#17 Oct 14, 2012
The knuckleheads at Tesla were more interested in building the whole car instead of focusing strictly on developing the driveline. A driveline they could has tested in numerous production vehicles.
In a sense all Tesla accomplished is what every kid in America already has and that is a battery powered toy car. Wire up 6800 little batteries in a series and you get some juice to power a car so the difference between a toy car and a Tesla is 6799 batteries. Obviously at Tesla it's people with more money than brains.
CANADEZOS

Scarborough, Canada

#18 Oct 14, 2012
The laughing liberal wrote:
Another Green Deal?
Are you crazy?
Jackass Obama has been greasing Green Deals that have 2 things in Common:
1) They Go Bankrupt at an astonishing rate.
2) They take Millions or Billions of Tax Payer $$$ and move to China.
"Obama's administration is very good at Picking Losers."
We need ENERGY jobs which will drive manufacturing, installation construction, production, and service jobs. Mitt Romney understands this and has a plan to unfasten the handcuffs the Jackal Obama has placed on our Energy market. He'll re-open coal that idiot Obama has shut down. He'll help restore Jobs and Prosperity lost under Barack Hussein Obama.
We need someone that will finally work to help the American Family (Romney). Not Obama's cronies on wall street or union thugs.
We need someone that recognizes the desperate need for Bi-Partisanship in the WH. Not some petulant Jerk that walks into a meeting claiming "I WON."
We know Obama is just the opposite of what the country needs. The Debate proved that. Now it's time to do the right thing for the country and Vote Romney/Ryan 2012.
We can do this.
Mitt Romney: For America
Barack Obama: For Bitter Partisanship & Campaign Donors.
IT WAS YOUR REPUBLICAN BUSH RIDICULE WHO DESTROYED THE WORLD ECONOMY&INITIATED THE EXPORTING OF US JOBS TO CHINA AND INDIA!!BLAME HIM!!HAD THE REPUBLICANS WON THE LAST ELECTION AMERICA WOULD'VE BEEN BANKRUPT BY NOW FOR SURE!
Bill Clinton

Philadelphia, PA

#20 Oct 14, 2012
I told that black boy we needed to start drillin'....but he said that b/c he's a muslim he's obligated by his religion to continue to buy oil from the arabians and put our country in tremendous danger

Since: Feb 07

Whitman,Ma

#22 Oct 14, 2012
Another Moonbat form MA. She runs for office as much as Harold Stassen did.

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