sizes of the large jurassic theropods

sizes of the large jurassic theropods

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mapusaurus rex

Pottstown, PA

#1 May 9, 2012
discuss:

edmarka max size
epanterias max size
allosaurus max size
saurophaganax max size
torvosaurus max size
das monster von minden max size
mapusaurus rex

Pottstown, PA

#2 May 9, 2012
edmarka: 12m
epanterias: 12.5m
allosaurus: 9m
saurophaganax: 11-15m
european torvosaurus: 13m
american torvosaurus: 10m
das monster von minden: 8-14.5m?

is this correct?

discuss sizes of these theropods.

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#3 May 9, 2012
What is there to discuss?
mapusaurus rex

Pottstown, PA

#4 May 10, 2012
Paleoworld-101 wrote:
What is there to discuss?
the sizes of those theropods

Since: Mar 12

Poland

#5 May 10, 2012
Edmarka rex or Torvosaurus: 11 m
Epanterias or Allosaurus amplexus: 12 m
Allosaurus fragilis: 10 m
Saurophaganax maximus: 11-13 m
Torvosaurus tanneri: 9-11 m
European Torvosaurus sp: 12 m

Saurophaganax would be the longest, but European Torvosaurus was probably as heavy as Sauro or Epan, if not heavier.
Bunny Rabbit

Lake Forest, CA

#6 May 10, 2012
Saurophaganax: OMNH 01123 is based on a neural arch, so we can't say for certain, size is about maximum 12 meters, NOT 13 meters

Torvosaurus: 11 meters long from a specimen based on an arm, its weight is about 2 metric tons.

Allosaurus: Most complete specimen, MOR 693, is 95% complete, largest Allosaurus specimen is AMNH 680 is 9.8 meters long

Epanterias: May be a large Allosaurus, the specimen AMNH 5767 is 12.0 meters long, if its really an Allosaurus then Allo is 12 meters long, but for now its unknown.

Edmarka is about the same size as Torvosaurus, and it may simply be a species of Torvosaurus.

Emperor Fang would've said the same thing.
Celestial emperor Fang

Stony Brook, NY

#7 May 10, 2012
European Torvosaurus is over 13 meter

Since: Mar 12

Poland

#8 May 10, 2012
Well... if BYUVP 2003 (which skull measured 1.31 m) is about 11 m long, European Torvosaurus (based on 1.58 m skull) would be over 13 m.

I know AMNH 680 skeleton is 9.7 m, when this specimen was alive (adding flesh, cartilage, there is possible that it measured 10 m in length.

Fixed list:
Epanterias or Allosaurus amplexus: 12 m
Allosaurus fragilis: up to 10 m
Saurophaganax maximus: 11-12 m
Torvosaurus/Edmarka: 11 m
European Torvosaurus sp: 13+ m
Celestial emperor Fang

Stony Brook, NY

#9 May 10, 2012
European Torvosaurus has different skull shape than BYU specimens, the skull is elongated, 13+ meter is estimated from foot prints + skull estimate. Skull along would suggest 12-13 meter.
Bunny Rabbit

Lake Forest, CA

#10 May 10, 2012
Celestial emperor Fang wrote:
European Torvosaurus is over 13 meter
Yeah, I was talking about American Torvo.

Maxilla of American torvo is 47 cm long.

Maxilla of European Torvo is 63 cm long.

Since American Torvo's skull is 118 cm long, then European Torvo's skull must be about 160 cm.

BTW Fang, I heard there was also a partial femur of a Torvo estimated to be 11 meters long, is that true or not?
Bunny Rabbit

Lake Forest, CA

#11 May 10, 2012
Oh yeah and when I said about 160 cm I meant based on the ratio with the maxilla to skull.
Spinodontosaurus

Milan, Italy

#12 May 12, 2012
Celestial emperor Fang wrote:
European Torvosaurus has different skull shape than BYU specimens, the skull is elongated, 13+ meter is estimated from foot prints + skull estimate. Skull along would suggest 12-13 meter.
That's not Torvosaurus tanneri (kimmeridgian of morrison formation) but an unnamed genus/species of torvosaurid megalosauroid which comes from tithonian of lourinha formation
And what's the source for 12-13 m footprins?
Celestial emperor

Stony Brook, NY

#13 May 12, 2012
since you worship Mickey so much, go ask her.
Spinodontosaurus

Milan, Italy

#14 May 12, 2012
Celestial emperor wrote:
since you worship Mickey so much, go ask her.
No, YOU are the one who says there are footprints from 12-13 m specimens, therefore YOU ARE THE ONE SUPPOSED TO KNOW ABOUT THE SOURCE
Dont ignore what i ask to you like you usually do
Bunny Rabbit

Lake Forest, CA

#15 May 12, 2012
Spinodontosaurus wrote:
<quoted text>No, YOU are the one who says there are footprints from 12-13 m specimens, therefore YOU ARE THE ONE SUPPOSED TO KNOW ABOUT THE SOURCE
Dont ignore what i ask to you like you usually do
Dude, Celestial Emperor Fang clearly said that it was an E-S-T-I-M-A-T-E!
Spinodontosaurus

Abbiategrasso, Italy

#16 May 13, 2012
Bunny Rabbit wrote:
<quoted text> Dude, Celestial Emperor Fang clearly said that it was an E-S-T-I-M-A-T-E!
Obvious, but i wanna know where he took it from
Bunny Rabbit

Lake Forest, CA

#17 May 13, 2012
Spinodontosaurus wrote:
<quoted text>Obvious, but i wanna know where he took it from
Well, I wanted to know too, but I am not that lazy to not even try to find it.
Spinodontosaurus

Abbiategrasso, Italy

#18 May 13, 2012
Bunny Rabbit wrote:
<quoted text> Well, I wanted to know too, but I am not that lazy to not even try to find it.
Are you in my mind? How would you know i didnt even try?
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy...
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy...
Daniel

Cheltenham, UK

#19 May 18, 2012
Allosaurus fragilis specimen AMNH 5767-~12 metres (maximum)
Torvosaurus tanneri specimen ML 1100-~13 metres (maximum)
Saurophaganax maximus specimen OMNH 1935-~13 metres (maximum)

It's worth noting that all 3 specimens of these 3 taxa are known from very poor fossil evidence, especially the Torvosaurus and Saurophaganax specimens (a 630 mm long maxilla for the former and a 545mm long humerus for the latter), so any size estimate is just that, an estimate.

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#20 May 20, 2012
there is a 11m allosaurus called: "allosaurus" tendagurensis.

european torvosaurus based on a 1.58m skull would b...

158/131 times 11m= 13.2m.

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