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Jan 6, 2013
 
I've heard Megalania had a toxic bite.How did it use it (if you believe it did) and do you think so.

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Jan 6, 2013
 
If the living Komodo Dragon is anything to go off, i'd say Megalania also had a toxic bite. I don't think the lizard is using actual venom though, i think it's the deadly pathogens and bacteria that resides in the mouth (causing wounds to become infected) that causes the "venomous" type killing method the lizard uses.

I'd imagine the mouth of Megalania was no cleaner than the mouth of a modern Komodo, hence i think it would have contained similar bacteria and pathogens as well, resulting in the same thing- a bite and infect type killing method. That is if the lacerations and blood loss didn't kill the animal outright anyway.

This kind of killing method would have also been useful considering the large and somewhat dangerous megafauna marsupials that existed in Australia at the time. One bite, and no further contact is needed. Just follow the dying animal and feast once it succumbs to it's infections.

Isn't nature wonderful :D

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Jan 6, 2013
 
Paleoworld-101 wrote:
If the living Komodo Dragon is anything to go off, i'd say Megalania also had a toxic bite. I don't think the lizard is using actual venom though, i think it's the deadly pathogens and bacteria that resides in the mouth (causing wounds to become infected) that causes the "venomous" type killing method the lizard uses.
I'd imagine the mouth of Megalania was no cleaner than the mouth of a modern Komodo, hence i think it would have contained similar bacteria and pathogens as well, resulting in the same thing- a bite and infect type killing method. That is if the lacerations and blood loss didn't kill the animal outright anyway.
This kind of killing method would have also been useful considering the large and somewhat dangerous megafauna marsupials that existed in Australia at the time. One bite, and no further contact is needed. Just follow the dying animal and feast once it succumbs to it's infections.
Isn't nature wonderful :D
Only in Australia...
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Jan 6, 2013
 
megalania,the giant lizard.

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Jan 6, 2013
 
rexby wrote:
megalania,the giant lizard.
Thankyou Rexby, that added SO MUCH to the discussion.

Such a valuable post, i can't believe i ever doubted you.

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Jan 6, 2013
 
Paleoworld-101 wrote:
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Thankyou Rexby, that added SO MUCH to the discussion.
Such a valuable post, i can't believe i ever doubted you.
Do you REALLY think that he actually contributed?

Really?

That wasn't anything. Just him stating the obvious.
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Jan 6, 2013
 
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<quoted text>Do you REALLY think that he actually contributed?
Really?
That wasn't anything. Just him stating the obvious.
Oh yeah? NEVER EVER BOTHER OR TEASE A TROLL OR THEY WILL BEAT YOU UP. ATUALLY YOUR DEAD.

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Oh yeah? NEVER EVER BOTHER OR TEASE A TROLL OR THEY WILL BEAT YOU UP. ATUALLY YOUR DEAD.
Oh dear, touch a nerve, did I?

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Jan 6, 2013
 
Pinky And Ze Brain wrote:
<quoted text>Do you REALLY think that he actually contributed?
Really?
That wasn't anything. Just him stating the obvious.
Msacras.

Read it backwards, Rexby isn't intelligent enough to to this so i think we are safe! He won't catch on :)
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Jan 6, 2013
 
Paleoworld-101 wrote:
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Msacras.
Read it backwards, Rexby isn't intelligent enough to to this so i think we are safe! He won't catch on :)
I am SUPER intelligence!!!

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Jan 6, 2013
 
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I am SUPER intelligence!!!
Correction- "I am SUPER intelligent!!!"

As you can see, you are NOT intelligent, your basic english skills suck!
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Jan 8, 2013
 
Paleoworld-101 wrote:
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Correction- "I am SUPER intelligent!!!"
As you can see, you are NOT intelligent, your basic english skills suck!
Yes I am intelligent!! And remember you just said I contributed? If you insult me one more time,I will troll!
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Jan 9, 2013
 
Paleoworld ignore him.
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Jan 9, 2013
 
You can't troll.
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Jan 9, 2013
 
Paleoworld, please don't ignore me!!! PLEASE!!!
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Jan 10, 2013
 
What is this giant gecko,, a nuclear reactor? No toxic bite. Maybe venomous, but not TOXIC, lol.
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Jan 11, 2013
 
Toxic.I meant to say venomous.
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Jan 11, 2013
 
This giant lizard, Megalania, was 2x the size if the modern Komodo dragon. That is big!!! Megalania was a carnivore, means that it ate meat. Megalania had a strong bite, able to crush a toilet. It ate marsupials. It weighed up to 2 tons. It didn't have a venomous bite but it's bite was toxic. It's smaller relative, the modern day Komodo dragon was much smaller. It is the 2nd biggest lizard. The biggest lizard is the tyrant king, t Rex. Here are comparisons.

Megalania: 2 tons, 9 feet

T Rex: 16 tons, 13 feet
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Jan 10, 2014
 
If the living Komodo Dragon is anything to go off, i'd say Megalania also had a toxic bite. I don't think the lizard is using actual venom though, i think it's the deadly pathogens and bacteria that resides in the mouth (causing wounds to become infected) that causes the "venomous" type killing method the lizard uses.
I'd imagine the mouth of Megalania was no cleaner than the mouth of a modern Komodo, hence i think it would have contained similar bacteria and pathogens as well, resulting in the same thing- a bite and infect type killing method. That is if the lacerations and blood loss didn't kill the animal outright anyway.
This kind of killing method would have also been useful considering the large and somewhat dangerous megafauna marsupials that existed in Australia at the time. One bite, and no further contact is needed. Just follow the dying animal and feast once it succumbs to it's infections.
Isn't nature wonderful :D

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Jan 10, 2014
 
reptile fan11111 wrote:
If the living Komodo Dragon is anything to go off, i'd say Megalania also had a toxic bite. I don't think the lizard is using actual venom though, i think it's the deadly pathogens and bacteria that resides in the mouth (causing wounds to become infected) that causes the "venomous" type killing method the lizard uses.
I'd imagine the mouth of Megalania was no cleaner than the mouth of a modern Komodo, hence i think it would have contained similar bacteria and pathogens as well, resulting in the same thing- a bite and infect type killing method. That is if the lacerations and blood loss didn't kill the animal outright anyway.
This kind of killing method would have also been useful considering the large and somewhat dangerous megafauna marsupials that existed in Australia at the time. One bite, and no further contact is needed. Just follow the dying animal and feast once it succumbs to it's infections.
Isn't nature wonderful :D
But recent studies show Komodo Dragons do have venomous bites. It has long been theorized Komodo Dragons killed prey by biting them with a mouth full of bacteria to infect the wound and cause blood poisoning, which would likely lead to a slow death. Recent studies however show Komodos actually injected venom into their saliva which seeped into the animals open wound, giving Komodo Dragons a venomous bite. The venom would decrease the blood pressure. The decrease of blood pressure mixed with the blood loss and confusion would send the prey into shock, after that it's an easy kill. No doubt the bacteria could harm and kill the prey animals but the victim would have likely died from the venom first.

With nothing left but fossils we must use our background knowledge to speculate on how prehistoric cousins lived and hunted. In this case we look into the habits and attack methods of the modern Komodo Dragonsto to compare how its cousin Magalania, 35,000 years ago, would have hunted and killed. I have no doubt in believing that Megalania had a venomous bite just like its modern cousins, the Komodo Dragons.

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