Fossil kicked out of bird family tree?

Fossil kicked out of bird family tree?

There are 57 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Jul 28, 2011, titled Fossil kicked out of bird family tree?. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

One of the world's most-famous fossil creatures, widely considered the earliest known bird, is getting a rude present on the 150th birthday of its discovery: A new analysis suggests it isn't a bird at all.

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Neon Drane

Reynoldsburg, OH

#43 Jul 30, 2011
Nitrox wrote:
Is that why you never got an account?
We all have accounts and use them on other fora. We are not going to waste them here.

“1337-9001”

Since: Jul 11

Just south of the South Pole

#44 Jul 30, 2011
And because you're scared.
Neon Drane

Reynoldsburg, OH

#45 Jul 30, 2011
lol, yeah, probably. Scared you'll come to Reynoldsburg and beat me up.
Enos

Chillicothe, OH

#46 Jul 30, 2011
Helen Lovejoy wrote:
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You’re right! Scientists are always changing their minds when they get new information. What idiots! I mean seriously, who in their right mind thinks its ok to revise conclusions based only on new findings!
Who in their right minds thinks it's OK to punish half the world's population based on "new findings" that could be supplanted at any minute?(global warming)
Enos

Chillicothe, OH

#47 Jul 30, 2011
Neon Drane wrote:
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Your post,#23, "Exactly! 450 Billion years of earth's evolution and we have unlocked the future weather patterns based on 260 years of statistical records. We are brilliant I tell you!"
4.5 billion is a lot less than your original 450 billion.
And 4.5 billion years ago, it was A LOT hotter here :)
Enos

Chillicothe, OH

#48 Jul 30, 2011
Pete-o wrote:
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Looking around our environment, if you can't see Climate Change happening, you are now moving from willfully ignorant to intentionally stupid.

Nobody is saying it isn't happening. But there is still not enough evidence to CONCLUDE that man's activities are the, or even a significant, contributor to it. The very same ice cores they use to show it is happening also show times before man's industrial activity when the climate was significantly warmer. It also shows that the increased CO2 "follows", rather than "precedes" the temperature increases.

[QUOTE]Science is based on the best evidence we have at any given time, the sad state of our country can be attributed to lack of interest in furthering knowledge.
This time they don't WANT to further knowledge. They want to use what they think they know to control humanity. And if you've been keeping up, you'd know that there have been significant question into the ethics of the people making the claims. Humans are just not that trustworthy it seems...

Since: Jan 08

Brisbane, CA

#49 Jul 31, 2011
Enos wrote:
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This time they don't WANT to further knowledge. They want to use what they think they know to control humanity. And if you've been keeping up, you'd know that there have been significant question into the ethics of the people making the claims. Humans are just not that trustworthy it seems...
And if you'd been keeping up, you'd know that those charges were baseless.

What makes you hold on to such an anti-science stance that even when we see climate change happening around the world you still deny it?

“C'mon bro, I got TIGER BLOOD”

Since: Apr 09

IN UPENDI!

#50 Jul 31, 2011
who cares wrote:
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This isn't understanding, this is picking nits.
Lesson to be learned from the extinction of the dinosaurs? Ability to adapt to changing conditions matters. Whether Archaeopteryx was a bird or a dinosaur doesn't. Either way it is just as extinct.
No, but it helps us build a better understanding of our place on this planet and our history. Even the tiniest details help us understand and paint a larger picture of the history of life on Earth. Without people examining evolutionary "curiosities" our picture of prehistoric life (and by consequence our own history) would be woefully incomplete.

Furthermore, dinosaur research (or more importantly, digging them up and giving them proper homes in museums) IS REALLY IMPORTANT in that there are criminals that would poach and sell these national and geological treasures off to the highest bidder.

Dinosaurs are also important in that they make a good gateway for young'ns to get interested in science and critical thinking.

In summary, next time you go lambasting the research of dedicated individuals, lets try a little critical thinking, yes?

“C'mon bro, I got TIGER BLOOD”

Since: Apr 09

IN UPENDI!

#51 Jul 31, 2011
zEnzyte Bob ex-Paid Cust wrote:
It takes them 150 years to analyze a fossil correctly and I'm supposed to believe these kooks about global warming?
It isn't Archaeopteryx that was analyzed, it was the new specimen from China. When you plugged the new species into a systematics program on a computer it turns out that it and Archaeopteryx are more distanced from "true birds". Its not that big a deal...
And why'd you bring global warming up? I don't even... I can't.... THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS! Wow, you right-wingers are getting desperate for attention, aren't ya?

Since: Jan 08

Brisbane, CA

#52 Jul 31, 2011
Stygimoloch wrote:
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It isn't Archaeopteryx that was analyzed, it was the new specimen from China. When you plugged the new species into a systematics program on a computer it turns out that it and Archaeopteryx are more distanced from "true birds". Its not that big a deal...
And why'd you bring global warming up? I don't even... I can't.... THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS! Wow, you right-wingers are getting desperate for attention, aren't ya?
Great posts, Styg, as we see from many posts on this thread, US science needs more attention in our classrooms and in the media.

It's a shame people don't have the basics of science to understand new discoveries.
Enos

Chillicothe, OH

#53 Jul 31, 2011
Pete-o wrote:
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And if you'd been keeping up, you'd know that those charges were baseless.
What makes you hold on to such an anti-science stance that even when we see climate change happening around the world you still deny it?
I did not say climate change was not happening, LIAR!

LIAR!

“C'mon bro, I got TIGER BLOOD”

Since: Apr 09

IN UPENDI!

#54 Jul 31, 2011
Yeah, science education is in a sad state in the U.S. I find it hard to see why people DON'T get excited about science and nature considering this is exactly what made it possible for civilization to exist.

Hell, I've had science teachers who really aren't familiar with modern science at all. They simply go "by the textbook".
Enos

Chillicothe, OH

#55 Jul 31, 2011

Since: Jan 08

Brisbane, CA

#56 Jul 31, 2011
Enos wrote:
Those sites definitely are from Morons, sorry I thought you denied the science of climate change. Those sites were pretty funny one from 2008 and the other that looked like it was posted by a 4th grader with all the misspelling on the site.

Looks like they didn't update the findings about "Climategate".

Intellectually lazy for sure.

“1337-9001”

Since: Jul 11

Just south of the South Pole

#57 Jul 31, 2011
Over 56 percent of the comments here are made by team. Talk about a one sided conversation.
Neon Drane

Reynoldsburg, OH

#58 Jul 31, 2011
Enos wrote:
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Who in their right minds thinks it's OK to punish half the world's population based on "new findings" that could be supplanted at any minute?(global warming)
Is that a rhetorical question?
Neon Drane

Reynoldsburg, OH

#59 Jul 31, 2011
29.8% including this one.

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