Lack of black engineers hurts U.S., B...

Lack of black engineers hurts U.S., Bill Gates says

There are 404 comments on the EETimes.com story from Nov 25, 2007, titled Lack of black engineers hurts U.S., Bill Gates says. In it, EETimes.com reports that:

“The shallow pool of skills is due, in part, to the lack of minorities being drawn into technology”

A recent study says that less than 10% of graduates of computer science programs in the U.S. are black -- a fact that will contribute to a shortage of technology professionals in the years ahead, Microsoft ... via EETimes.com

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Since: Nov 07

Baton Rouge, LA

#50 Nov 26, 2007
MAXMUTANT wrote:
As an Engineer, I never realized that color had something to do with the successful outcome of any engineering achievment. Stupid me!
Thank you!
Wescott

Kernersville, NC

#51 Nov 26, 2007
Knoxxie wrote:
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You're joking, right? I'm quite sure anyone who attends Harvard and graduates with a BS in Mechanical Engineering will have a job waiting for them...
My thoughts exactly. It doesn't matter what school you go to? What a lack of seeing the obvious.
Wescott

Kernersville, NC

#52 Nov 26, 2007
the_truth_be_told2006 wrote:
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No, I was responding to the overall academic level of your school, which is very poor.
Agree. Louisiana school standards are very low. Lived there for a couple years. High school students with a "C" average were able to get into the universities. It's no wonder this country graduates students who can barely read and write. The competition in let's say California is a lot higher. Straight "A" students are just praying to get into the universities.
Wescott

Kernersville, NC

#53 Nov 26, 2007
southern_morena1985 wrote:
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I was not debating the low graduation rate for blacks in egineering. You basically said that blacks are not capable of handling the coursework in those programs. You're basically spewing the same ugly stereotype that white people have been stating for centuries. Like someone has stated before, engineering is not a cake walk for anyone. It has NOTHING to do with the person's race.
Not all blacks. Most blacks. I agree with him.
Wescott

Kernersville, NC

#54 Nov 26, 2007
KIP wrote:
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Look WHAT up?
It is already PROVEN that race has nothing to do with itelligence. I've seen Physics professors from Eriteria and other African countries do quite well. My co-worker is black American and a very good software developer too.
One reason why there are not a lot of black engineers is because from an early age, many black students develop poor study habits or do not study at all. Black parents are absent from teacher/parent meetings and in American schools do not make their children's education a priority. I've seen this over and over and over again. I'm even related to people who all but ignore their children's academic presence.
An engineering degree requires a lot of studying and sacrifice. It can mean staying up late hours reading and writing formulas. It also involves a lot of concentration and analytical thinking. These kind of activities are viewed as "white" by some black people in America. Black students who DARE exhibit this ability in front of peers risk being ostracized, beaten, and mocked. That's just how it is.
An engineering degree is expensive. A lot of black students are not able to work and go to school for a number of years to earn an engineering degree.
No excuse. Brother was kicked out of high school. Had no money. Father hated him. He went to school. Got loans. Now a successful engineer.
Wescott

Kernersville, NC

#55 Nov 26, 2007
Color doesn't matter yes. People are discussing statistics and educational history. That's not being racist, just addressing facts.

An engineer needs a very disciplined mind and I applaud all of them from every race. We need them.

If you want to be one, go for it and don't let anyone stop you, people or the numbers.
Wescott

Kernersville, NC

#56 Nov 26, 2007
MAXMUTANT wrote:
As an Engineer, I never realized that color had something to do with the successful outcome of any engineering achievment. Stupid me!
Not color. Intelligence. Drive. Sel-motivation. Willingness to work hard and not give up. Goal oriented.

Lots of hard working people who still don't have the intelligence or the type of mind it takes to be an engineer.

Lots of people who are intelligent enough, but are lazy whiners who like to live off other people or blame others for their failures.
Ellie

Los Angeles, CA

#57 Nov 26, 2007
Wescott wrote:
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Not all blacks. Most blacks. I agree with him.
Yes, and you are such an authority.
Darwin

Port Huron, MI

#59 Nov 26, 2007
Kimmycat wrote:
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You made an excellent point. The majority of engineeing and science majors at my Midwestern university were primariliy Indians, Pakistanis, Chinese, and Koreans. Actually the majority of the Black engineering majors at my university were from African countries. Very few White students are majoring in engineering or science. It isn't that Black students aren't capable of doing the coursework. I am a Black woman and I earned almost all straight "A"'s in my math and science courses. Engineers and scientists are often sterotyped as "nerds" and "geeks" and is considered a "White" area of study. Young Blacks don't think these fields are "cool". A lot of Whites feel the same way. It just isn't Blacks that are underrepresented in the math, science, and engineering fields. There are very few women majoring in math, science, or engineering. Women often avoid these fields because they are afraid they won't be able to marry or have a family if they enter into the science or engineering fields. I majored in math and science and now work in IT. I was often the only women IT professional at many of the firms I worked at. I think that the "nerd" image of mathmeticians, scientists, and engineers needs to be changed in order to attract more women and minoroties into these important and worthwhile fields.
You are dead on. Furthermore, American youth today of all ethnicities and social classes are too pre-occupied with image; looking cool which usually translates into drugs, smoking, skipping school, teen pregnancy, STD's and a host of other social ills. We have got to get American youth back to respecting themselves and looking up to positive role models rather than the thugs idealized by our youth today. It is hurting everyone, our males, our females, our society as a whole, and I fear our countries future.
Red Rag

Belgium, WI

#60 Nov 26, 2007
I'd be an Engineer if someone would send me to College for FREE !

“Life is just a Moment, njoy it”

Since: Jan 07

Nekoosa, Wisconsin

#62 Nov 26, 2007
Red Rag wrote:
I'd be an Engineer if someone would send me to College for FREE !
This is America, Home of the CAPITALIST SCUMBAGS, You must pay to work.

“Common Sense Has Left America”

Since: Oct 07

Maryville, TN

#63 Nov 26, 2007
Who cares what color they are as long as they are good. To Bill Gates "Don't Be Stupid"
Whiteisright

United States

#64 Nov 27, 2007
Go figure since Whites are far superior in this field. Whites also work together un like Blacks. Heck just look at all our inner cities they killing each other because they can not get along.
Whiteisright

United States

#65 Nov 27, 2007
Red Rag wrote:
I'd be an Engineer if someone would send me to College for FREE !
Gee you must not be black or a minority.
I had too and still am paying for college (Lucky Whitey)
Whiteisright

United States

#66 Nov 27, 2007
Adversitys child wrote:
Let's hear it for the brilliant black scientific minds of today
and the noble black explorers, that somehow never came this way
The black inventors who brought in the industrial age
lost in the history books,or just left on the last page
Our black social scientist forefathers who showed us liberties way
were somehow picking cotton then or sleeping in the hay
or all those black generals who fought the many wars
What ever happen to them all,oh yes -they never was
So True
Whiteisright

United States

#67 Nov 27, 2007
MAXMUTANT wrote:
As an Engineer, I never realized that color had something to do with the successful outcome of any engineering achievment. Stupid me!
bet your all white

“Tell the Truth”

Since: Nov 07

Orlando, Florida

#69 Nov 27, 2007
the_truth_be_told2006 wrote:
Don't let Bill Gates fool you. He isn't interested in hiring Blacks or Whites. He is interested in hiring Pakistanis and Indians at slave labor wages and passing the savings on to you in the form of substandard equipment and corrupt software.
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-5687039.ht...
http://www.networkworld.com/community/...
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6452
It isn't about Blacks, Whites or America. This is a greedy bastard that wants to fatten his pockets even more, regardless of how much damage it does to the American people.
Absolutely agree with you!!!!!

“I AM WHO I AM”

Since: Apr 07

Knoxville, Tennessee

#70 Nov 27, 2007
Wescott wrote:
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My thoughts exactly. It doesn't matter what school you go to? What a lack of seeing the obvious.
I agree...

“I AM WHO I AM”

Since: Apr 07

Knoxville, Tennessee

#71 Nov 27, 2007
HR Pufnstuf wrote:
Engineering is not a walk in the park for anyone of any color. You can either do it or you can't. I don't want to do it. No thanks. Not like majoring in English where there is more wriggle room & rarely one perfect answer other than where was Shakespeare born.
17% of black men graduate from university.
How many of those who graduate received an athletic scholarship?
What are they getting their degrees in?
Yup. I agree with you. I have a degree in English Literature...

“Tell the Truth”

Since: Nov 07

Orlando, Florida

#72 Nov 27, 2007
Adversitys child wrote:
Let's hear it for the brilliant black scientific minds of today
and the noble black explorers, that somehow never came this way
The black inventors who brought in the industrial age
lost in the history books,or just left on the last page
Our black social scientist forefathers who showed us liberties way
were somehow picking cotton then or sleeping in the hay
or all those black generals who fought the many wars
What ever happen to them all,oh yes -they never was
Who discovered America? Who discovered the Mississippi River? Who discovered the Pacific Ocean? Who discovered the Pacific Northwest? Who settled the American west? Who colonized the Northeast? Who built Alaska into a liveable state? Who worked to make the great cities of San Francisco, Detroit, Miami, New York, Dallas, Seattle, Baltimore, Atlanta?(Who has tried to destroy the great cities of Atlanta, Los Angeles, Detroit, Miami...)

Who invented penicillin? The flushing toilet? The hot water heater? The automobile? The airplane? The system of educating people? Who created the printing press, the cotton gin, the modern farm tractor, refrigeration, electricity, the telegraph, the telephone.

Do something special and you'll get credit for it. However, don't take those kudos away from someone else to build up your own ego.

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