Lack of black engineers hurts U.S., B...

Lack of black engineers hurts U.S., Bill Gates says

There are 404 comments on the EETimes.com story from Nov 25, 2007, titled Lack of black engineers hurts U.S., Bill Gates says. In it, EETimes.com reports that:

“The shallow pool of skills is due, in part, to the lack of minorities being drawn into technology”

A recent study says that less than 10% of graduates of computer science programs in the U.S. are black -- a fact that will contribute to a shortage of technology professionals in the years ahead, Microsoft ... via EETimes.com

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“Uncle Tom”

Since: Feb 07

Paterson, NJ

#435 Nov 23, 2008
GirlPower wrote:
<quoted text>cosign. If you are smart , than you are just smart. Race doesnt matter. If that was the case, a lot of white ppl that I know would be much smarter than what they are
i have been an engineer for8 years now.While there aren't a lot of black engineers, many americans do not enter the profession anymore. Almost eeveryone in enginnering school is foreign (mostly asian,indian and eastern european). If america wants to change this, they have to make it lucrative again, so that bright minds can reenter the field again.

Blackbwoy

Since: Nov 07

Roc.

#436 Nov 24, 2008
Confusious Kwesi wrote:
<quoted text>
It is the discipline and the self motivation which is holding us back.The capability is thetre without a doubt,only the foresight and motivation is holding us back.It is time we encourage our children to educate in all spheres of human development.
C.Kwesi
thats whats up!. but lack of discipline and self motivation holds anybody back, not just blacks.

unfortunately, it may be a bit more prevalent among american blacks.
Confusious Kwesi

Prestonpans, UK

#437 Nov 24, 2008
Blackbwoy wrote:
<quoted text>thats whats up!. but lack of discipline and self motivation holds anybody back, not just blacks.
unfortunately, it may be a bit more prevalent among american blacks.
Thats true,but it is addressed to blacks so it makes it no less true.I would say whites are a bit more motivated because the system will more readily engage them so they not have the misgivings blacks might have.

C.Kwesi

“Israel uses Jim Crow Terrorism”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#438 Nov 26, 2008
Bump for NSBE!!!
dev

Redmond, WA

#439 Nov 12, 2009
Is it possible some cultures develop differently...with each culture specializing in something? Maybe diversity is a good thing? Why should everyone be alike, do the same things, compete for the same resources, have the same talents? Oh why, oh why doesn't everyone crave only cheeseburgers....cheezeburgers should be the default setting on any human being's menu! Red Ketchup, White Mayo, and Blue when you get a heart attack.

Kip

“Brian's alter ego”

Since: Feb 07

San Francisco, CA

#440 Nov 14, 2009
dev wrote:
Is it possible some cultures develop differently...with each culture specializing in something? Maybe diversity is a good thing? Why should everyone be alike, do the same things, compete for the same resources, have the same talents? Oh why, oh why doesn't everyone crave only cheeseburgers....cheezeburgers should be the default setting on any human being's menu! Red Ketchup, White Mayo, and Blue when you get a heart attack.
This doesn't deal with being alike. It deals with education and who doesn't get it. It deals with lost opportunities.

Simply assuming that cultures develop differently does not really address the problem.

“Israel uses Jim Crow Terrorism”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#441 Nov 15, 2009
JohnnyQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Absolutely. Science and engineering are not popular for ANY race in the U.S. Americans respect Bill Gates for his money and business acumen - not for his innovation and intellect.
As unpopular as "egghead" careers are for Americans, they're even LESS popular with Black folks. Being the "head Negro in charge", or the power broker, or the high roller is much more respected in Black circles than scientific/technological wizardry. That's just the way it is.
So true.
Kizzy Says

Peoria, IL

#442 Nov 15, 2009
Engineering is old-hat for white Americans. Back when all was created by white Americans, all things technological, including putting a man on the moon multiple times, it was all White Americans. When white engineers began to see that their white MBA counterparts were their bosses, making a lot more money for 1/10 the math and science requirements, engineering all but died in the US for white males. You can forget blacks ever contributing any more that the absolute smallest percent. Indians and Chinese will work for the lower engineering wages though, and that's where we get at least half our engineers. The other half are still white. Negroes will never make up more than about 1/10 of 1%. They simply don't have the capacity, and I know thats because engineering isn't taught using ebonics and black magic science and math. It's all the white guy's fault I'm sure. Hmmmmmmm right.
Dawn

Chandler, AZ

#443 Nov 15, 2009
Kizzy Says wrote:
Engineering is old-hat for white Americans. Back when all was created by white Americans, all things technological, including putting a man on the moon multiple times, it was all White Americans. When white engineers began to see that their white MBA counterparts were their bosses, making a lot more money for 1/10 the math and science requirements, engineering all but died in the US for white males. You can forget blacks ever contributing any more that the absolute smallest percent. Indians and Chinese will work for the lower engineering wages though, and that's where we get at least half our engineers. The other half are still white. Negroes will never make up more than about 1/10 of 1%. They simply don't have the capacity, and I know thats because engineering isn't taught using ebonics and black magic science and math. It's all the white guy's fault I'm sure. Hmmmmmmm right.
I think you like being the blame for everything cause on every blog your always throwing in some dumb mess like this Get a life
monique

Scottsdale, AZ

#444 Nov 15, 2009
Kizzy Says wrote:
Engineering is old-hat for white Americans. Back when all was created by white Americans, all things technological, including putting a man on the moon multiple times, it was all White Americans. When white engineers began to see that their white MBA counterparts were their bosses, making a lot more money for 1/10 the math and science requirements, engineering all but died in the US for white males. You can forget blacks ever contributing any more that the absolute smallest percent. Indians and Chinese will work for the lower engineering wages though, and that's where we get at least half our engineers. The other half are still white. Negroes will never make up more than about 1/10 of 1%. They simply don't have the capacity, and I know thats because engineering isn't taught using ebonics and black magic science and math. It's all the white guy's fault I'm sure. Hmmmmmmm right.
if blacks are so dumb and incapable then why was it that back in slavery we were not allowed to read..if the white devil masa caught us reading we would be hung...you guys clearly know who the superior race is thats why you guys do everything in your power to keep us down..
Dawn

Chandler, AZ

#445 Nov 15, 2009
monique wrote:
<quoted text>
if blacks are so dumb and incapable then why was it that back in slavery we were not allowed to read..if the white devil masa caught us reading we would be hung...you guys clearly know who the superior race is thats why you guys do everything in your power to keep us down..
TEACH please cuz these crackers acting like they forgot their own history
The Real truth Be Told

Houston, TX

#450 Feb 2, 2010
It does not matter what university one goes to, what matters are the results of the schooling, whether the person has put forth an effort to the best in their field when they graduate and put that knowledge to effective use. It is an exercise in futility to pit black against white or university against university which carries certain bias that we know nothing about. Do your own research and find out for yourself what's what. Stop looking at national ratings to determine your level of support. The proof is always in the pudding. If you bring primary statistics that support your claims, then we can have an intelligent conversation. Lastly, if judging by race; any race can deem themselves "smarter" than the other race but again, SHOW it. each individual must show what they can do where the rubber meets the road. Noone gets a pass from me just because they are of a certain race. Be about it! Do the work, Show what you can do, prove it to me. period.
The Real truth Be Told

Houston, TX

#451 Feb 2, 2010
Kizzy Says wrote:
Engineering is old-hat for white Americans. Back when all was created by white Americans, all things technological, including putting a man on the moon multiple times, it was all White Americans. When white engineers began to see that their white MBA counterparts were their bosses, making a lot more money for 1/10 the math and science requirements, engineering all but died in the US for white males. You can forget blacks ever contributing any more that the absolute smallest percent. Indians and Chinese will work for the lower engineering wages though, and that's where we get at least half our engineers. The other half are still white. Negroes will never make up more than about 1/10 of 1%. They simply don't have the capacity, and I know thats because engineering isn't taught using ebonics and black magic science and math. It's all the white guy's fault I'm sure. Hmmmmmmm right.
What you say that we as blacks can;t do, We are doing it. We allow what you say to be Motivation for us to strive higher and higher. if, for one minute you think that what you are saying is hurting us, you are helping us because over and over again, we prove to people like you that we are MORE THAN CAPABLE, SMARTER,AND HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO BE THE BEST IN EVERY FIELD of Industry that you can imagine. So, keep speaking those negative words into the atmosphere so that they may return into your own life as a manifestation of what you will become, my friend. It is a universal law that you reap what you sow. what you speak out will return back to you. So, I, thank you, for the motivation!
The Truth

Ruston, LA

#452 Feb 2, 2010
afro engineering wrote:
There's a shortage of black engineers nationwide. The mathamatical and critical thinking requirements for engineering are beyond the abilities of most blacks. An all black university in Atlanta stopped offering engineering studies to students because of low participation and a high failure rate. The students who did graduate were quickly shown to be unqualified and unable to perform adaquately on the job.
Well seeing as how I'm a black electrical engineering major and economics minor with good grades I'd say that you are full of shit.

They are some blacks in my engineering programs who love it.
Some hate it.

And there are some white people who says its too hard (its not an easy major like literature or whatever).
kevin - research engineer

Media, PA

#453 Mar 18, 2011
proud African american and concentrating in medical engineering and physics in medicine. studying the possibly of a completely self contained and powered artificial heart. the implications for engine design and energy generation could change the world.

if I am successful you will know, I have ideas, need money.

all the jackasses that believe blacks don't have it to be engineers are just that jackasses. the only thing holding black down in the technical sciences are discrimination in education and educational financing. Something I hope to help change in the near future.
A Resident

Kirkland, WA

#454 Mar 25, 2011
the_truth_be_told2006 wrote:
Don't let Bill Gates fool you. He isn't interested in hiring Blacks or Whites. He is interested in hiring Pakistanis and Indians at slave labor wages and passing the savings on to you in the form of substandard equipment and corrupt software.

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-5687039.ht...
http://www.networkworld.com/community/...
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6452

It isn't about Blacks, Whites or America. This is a greedy bastard that wants to fatten his pockets even more, regardless of how much damage it does to the American people.
I agree! Having worked there I saw this firsthand. Hiring incompetent overseas workers to come in on Visas and manage teams of more apt and experienced nationals and failing miserably.

“Israel uses Jim Crow Terrorism”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#455 Mar 26, 2011
kevin - research engineer wrote:
proud African american and concentrating in medical engineering and physics in medicine. studying the possibly of a completely self contained and powered artificial heart. the implications for engine design and energy generation could change the world.
if I am successful you will know, I have ideas, need money.
all the jackasses that believe blacks don't have it to be engineers are just that jackasses. the only thing holding black down in the technical sciences are discrimination in education and educational financing. Something I hope to help change in the near future.
F***ing thank you. In undergrad, the amount of financial aid I got was crap. Had to work a job to make up of the rest. GPA suffered a bit.

“Israel uses Jim Crow Terrorism”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#456 Mar 26, 2011
fair_guy wrote:
Bump for NSBE!!!
This is old, I no longer actively affiliate with NSBE...
mybossisafatbitc h

United States

#457 Mar 26, 2011
Throw in Dell these guys want to pay little as possible. Thats how they stay rich. They golf early morning hours while people make them richer. Its there money to do as they please.
the_truth_be_told2006 wrote:
Don't let Bill Gates fool you. He isn't interested in hiring Blacks or Whites. He is interested in hiring Pakistanis and Indians at slave labor wages and passing the savings on to you in the form of substandard equipment and corrupt software.
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-5687039.ht...
http://www.networkworld.com/community/...
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6452
It isn't about Blacks, Whites or America. This is a greedy bastard that wants to fatten his pockets even more, regardless of how much damage it does to the American people.
wew

UK

#458 Mar 28, 2011
wew

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