Lack of black engineers hurts U.S., Bill Gates says

Nov 25, 2007 Full story: EETimes.com 404

“The shallow pool of skills is due, in part, to the lack of minorities being drawn into technology”

A recent study says that less than 10% of graduates of computer science programs in the U.S. are black -- a fact that will contribute to a shortage of technology professionals in the years ahead, Microsoft ... via EETimes.com

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the_truth_be_tol d2006

Columbia, TN

#2 Nov 25, 2007
Don't let Bill Gates fool you. He isn't interested in hiring Blacks or Whites. He is interested in hiring Pakistanis and Indians at slave labor wages and passing the savings on to you in the form of substandard equipment and corrupt software.

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-5687039.ht...
http://www.networkworld.com/community/...
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6452

It isn't about Blacks, Whites or America. This is a greedy bastard that wants to fatten his pockets even more, regardless of how much damage it does to the American people.

“Technical Anomaly”

Since: Apr 07

Youngstown, OH

#3 Nov 25, 2007
Don't worry I'm comin...
afro engineering

Dallas, TX

#4 Nov 25, 2007
There's a shortage of black engineers nationwide. The mathamatical and critical thinking requirements for engineering are beyond the abilities of most blacks. An all black university in Atlanta stopped offering engineering studies to students because of low participation and a high failure rate. The students who did graduate were quickly shown to be unqualified and unable to perform adaquately on the job.

“Technical Anomaly”

Since: Apr 07

Youngstown, OH

#5 Nov 25, 2007
I'm on my way.
the_truth_be_tol d2006

Columbia, TN

#6 Nov 25, 2007
afro engineering wrote:
There's a shortage of black engineers nationwide. The mathamatical and critical thinking requirements for engineering are beyond the abilities of most blacks. An all black university in Atlanta stopped offering engineering studies to students because of low participation and a high failure rate. The students who did graduate were quickly shown to be unqualified and unable to perform adaquately on the job.
Clark University lost 7.5 million dollars and only graduated a little over a 100 in 13 years. It also was the only engineering program in all the Historically Black Universities.

Since: May 07

Washington, DC

#7 Nov 25, 2007
Willing Thinker wrote:
I'm on my way.
Whazzup WT? Ready for the school semester to end? I am? Hows college?
italiano

Monroe, NC

#9 Nov 25, 2007
the_truth_be_told2006 wrote:
Don't let Bill Gates fool you. He isn't interested in hiring Blacks or Whites. He is interested in hiring Pakistanis and Indians at slave labor wages and passing the savings on to you in the form of substandard equipment and corrupt software.
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-5687039.ht...
http://www.networkworld.com/community/...
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6452
It isn't about Blacks, Whites or America. This is a greedy bastard that wants to fatten his pockets even more, regardless of how much damage it does to the American people.
http://www.gatesfoundation.org/default.htm

Read what this so called "Greedy Bastard" is doing with his money.
the_truth_be_tol d2006

Columbia, TN

#11 Nov 25, 2007
italiano wrote:
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http://www.gatesfoundation.org/default.htm
Read what this so called "Greedy Bastard" is doing with his money.
Oh wow, he started Rainier Scholars, that helps a few minority kids in Seatlle. What an Angel! Now look what he's doing to everybody else.

http://www.internetnews.com/ec-news/article.p...
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/178021...
http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/hardware/0,3904...
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/busines...
http://outsourcing.corante.com/archives/2004/...
7upyoursfucker

East Saint Louis, IL

#13 Nov 25, 2007
I wonder how many of you racists get off after reading information like the article posted.

Since: Nov 07

New Orleans, LA

#14 Nov 25, 2007
afro engineering wrote:
There's a shortage of black engineers nationwide. The mathamatical and critical thinking requirements for engineering are beyond the abilities of most blacks. An all black university in Atlanta stopped offering engineering studies to students because of low participation and a high failure rate. The students who did graduate were quickly shown to be unqualified and unable to perform adaquately on the job.
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I can't believe what you said! In my university, there are many African and African American students in engineering majors who now perform quite well on the job. These students are as smart as they come, but they also worked their butts off to get to where they are now.
the_truth_be_tol d2006

Columbia, TN

#15 Nov 25, 2007
southern_morena1985 wrote:
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I can't believe what you said! In my university, there are many African and African American students in engineering majors who now perform quite well on the job. These students are as smart as they come, but they also worked their butts off to get to where they are now.
LSU didn't rank in the top 130 schools academically.

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...

How prepared are they really?

Since: Nov 07

New Orleans, LA

#17 Nov 25, 2007
the_truth_be_told2006 wrote:
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LSU didn't rank in the top 130 schools academically.
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...
How prepared are they really?
First of all, who said my school was top in engineering? Second of all, just because LSU isn't "ranked", does not mean the students are not prepared for the workforce after graduation. Thirdly, who is to say that LSU not being ranked is due to the blacks in the program? All I know is that the African and African-Americans in those majors are now working for top companies like BP and Exxon, and are doing quite well for themselves. I'm so sick of people assuming bull like blacks not being "smart enough" for particular majors.
Ellie

Long Beach, CA

#18 Nov 25, 2007
afro engineering wrote:
There's a shortage of black engineers nationwide. The mathamatical and critical thinking requirements for engineering are beyond the abilities of most blacks. An all black university in Atlanta stopped offering engineering studies to students because of low participation and a high failure rate. The students who did graduate were quickly shown to be unqualified and unable to perform adaquately on the job.
You don't know what you are talking about. It's obvious that you haven't participated in ANY Engineering program ever.

When I was in college, I do remember the classes with the highest fail rates on campus were: O Chem, Real Analysis, multi variable calculus and several engineering classes. With over 50,000 students and the majority of that population being Asian and White, it was not just Black students failing those classes! Engineering standards are rigorous for anyone in the program. Anyone that has been through an Engineering Program or even a physical science major knows that the requirements are tough on everyone and that's what they are meant to be.

When I was in my first year of college I knew so many Engineering and math majors not just Black, but White, Asian and Latino. However, after the first quarter of multi-variable calc and circuts did a lot to change folks minds. It took a lot of smart people of all colors and knocked them on their butts.

If you were really confident in your abilities you would not feel the need to come on here and put others down.
Ellie

Long Beach, CA

#19 Nov 25, 2007
the_truth_be_told2006 wrote:
<quoted text>
LSU didn't rank in the top 130 schools academically.
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...
How prepared are they really?
Just because a school is not ranked does not mean that the people in the programs are not prepared. Just like students graduating from a ranked school implies that they are in anyway prepared. How does a school make it into those rankings anyway? I have always wondered that. My school has always made it into that list, and I am not sure why, unless it's for the quality of the research. I doubt if things have changed, but when I was there most of my lessons came from grad students, and lectures were done by Professors who first priority was not making sure that the young people in their classes learn, but to do their prized research.

Have you ever tried to learn calculus in a class with 150 other students in 10 weeks no less? Not to mention you can't really ask questions during lecture. God help you if you missed something or didn't understand. You have to get clarification in your once a week discussion sections. Ahhh, if you have ever experienced this you would know why I think you are might be more prepared in a smaller program. I'm just guessing that if you were in a class of 30 or 40 you wouldn't have those issues. You have more access to your Professors and I sure that you are more likely to LEARN in that environment, not just take notes feverishly.
the_truth_be_tol d2006

Columbia, TN

#20 Nov 25, 2007
southern_morena1985 wrote:
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First of all, who said my school was top in engineering? Second of all, just because LSU isn't "ranked", does not mean the students are not prepared for the workforce after graduation. Thirdly, who is to say that LSU not being ranked is due to the blacks in the program? All I know is that the African and African-Americans in those majors are now working for top companies like BP and Exxon, and are doing quite well for themselves. I'm so sick of people assuming bull like blacks not being "smart enough" for particular majors.
I never made any of those accusations. I merely stated that LSU was not a leading school in academics. You stated the rest. Why did you automatically think such terrible things about the Black students?

Since: Nov 07

New Orleans, LA

#21 Nov 25, 2007
the_truth_be_told2006 wrote:
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I never made any of those accusations. I merely stated that LSU was not a leading school in academics. You stated the rest. Why did you automatically think such terrible things about the Black students?
Why did "I" think such terrible things??! I thought YOU were replying to my message questioning the true preparation of my school's black students. I'm the one who stated that the black engineering students at LSU are more than well prepared. Since I go to the school, I think I would know.

Since: Nov 07

Roc.

#22 Nov 25, 2007
the_truth_be_told2006 wrote:
<quoted text>
LSU didn't rank in the top 130 schools academically.
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...
How prepared are they really?
Who cares. With colleges costing what it is today if its a degree from an acredited or respected institution, be happy and get a job. And of course its difficult for blacks to do well in engineering, math has to be a strong pre requisite and the public schools are woefully inadequate in math. The public school system has to improve, then blacks will be more represented. White suburban schools have it all, money, labs, better teachers. So of course they are going to do better DUH. us.news and world reports is overhyped, they come out with this list of colleges every year. If blacks schools were financed as much as whites we would kick their butts in everything. We already rule in physical power, give our schools the money and we would RULE academically as well. But whites already know this, reason why they kept blacks uneducated during slavery. Thats alright, blacks will just have to produce academically on our own. Hold on Bill Gates!!!we a coming sar.

“Life is just a Moment, njoy it”

Since: Jan 07

Nekoosa, Wisconsin

#23 Nov 25, 2007
afro engineering wrote:
There's a shortage of black engineers nationwide. The mathamatical and critical thinking requirements for engineering are beyond the abilities of most blacks. An all black university in Atlanta stopped offering engineering studies to students because of low participation and a high failure rate. The students who did graduate were quickly shown to be unqualified and unable to perform adaquately on the job.
Oh BULLCRAP, The standards for every job in America has been lowered, even a Airline Pilot.
So has the Pay, Most of the blacks who were participating drop out for something that would pay more money. Most companies don't pay the big
$600.000.0 dollar salaries anymore because of robotics and computers.
the_truth_be_tol d2006

Columbia, TN

#25 Nov 25, 2007
Blackbwoy wrote:
<quoted text>
Who cares. With colleges costing what it is today if its a degree from an acredited or respected institution, be happy and get a job. And of course its difficult for blacks to do well in engineering, math has to be a strong pre requisite and the public schools are woefully inadequate in math. The public school system has to improve, then blacks will be more represented. White suburban schools have it all, money, labs, better teachers. So of course they are going to do better DUH. us.news and world reports is overhyped, they come out with this list of colleges every year. If blacks schools were financed as much as whites we would kick their butts in everything. We already rule in physical power, give our schools the money and we would RULE academically as well. But whites already know this, reason why they kept blacks uneducated during slavery. Thats alright, blacks will just have to produce academically on our own. Hold on Bill Gates!!!we a coming sar.
Cmon dude, your thoughts run from rational to erratic. The jest of my statement was that to be the best, you have to go to the best schools. LSU isn't the best school. Degrees from lesser schools mean leasser money, bottom line. Bill Gates won't be waiting on you, unless you're Pakistani or Indian and willing to work well below market value.
As far as RULING anything, that is more mythology. You stated in previous posts that Blacks dominate in sports and entertainment. Really? Since when does Basketball and Hip Hop represent sports and entertainment? With the influx of Europeans and Chinese, how long will Blacks continue to dominate? Why does the American Team struggle in Olympic competition? With the outbreeding of African American men, as you have stated also in previous posts, how long before the genetic physical "superiority" that evolved during slavery dissipates?
the_truth_be_tol d2006

Columbia, TN

#26 Nov 25, 2007
southern_morena1985 wrote:
<quoted text>
Why did "I" think such terrible things??! I thought YOU were replying to my message questioning the true preparation of my school's black students. I'm the one who stated that the black engineering students at LSU are more than well prepared. Since I go to the school, I think I would know.
No, I was responding to the overall academic level of your school, which is very poor.

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