Are female muscles stronger than male muscles?

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Mom of 3

Collinsville, IL

#2 Feb 1, 2008
When I see a man go through 20 hours of labor, and STILL have the endurance to push a baby out of their body, I will be convinced that men are stronger. I think that the man would be reduced to a whimpering lump of gelatin if it came to that. As my mom always said, if men had to have the babies, the human race would have died off a long time ago!
buffed

Sebastopol, CA

#4 Feb 24, 2008
I've beaten many men at arm wrestling - some have been 80 pounds heavier than me.
mr jason

Nottingham, UK

#6 Jul 23, 2008
Mr John,

It seems to me you have been watching to much youtube or charlies angels or something along those lines. In regards to the statement about a male and female bodybuilder armwrestling each other it doesnt mean she is stronger arm wrestling is 70% technique. I doubt your statement is true anyway (if it is true tell me where you read it so i can read it too) but even if he did tear his bicep its a very common thing. If women were physicly stronger than men they would hold all the world records for sprinting weightlifting jumping and so on. They dont men hold all the records. Ofcourse there are some strong women out there but the strongest man will always be stronger than the strongest woman. The reason why men are stronger is to do with testosterone but i cant be bothered to go into it I am sure your aware of it the other reason is men are generely bigger this is the advantage men have so whats the point in comparing a small weak man to a bigger woman and you cant judge muscle mass without dicecting the body purely because the mans bone would generly be bigger wich means the muscle has to be smaller to be equal with the womans ( this is just a guess not a fact.It is a silly topic on the basis woman are woman and men are men. The woman should stop trying too be butch like men and use there own strength to become a better woman and not to become an average man. The same goes for men aswell become a better man instead of trying to become an average woman.. If you need facts about who is physicly stronger then watch the olympics where the best of both sexes compete and then come back with comments about women being physicly stronger.
mr jason

Nottingham, UK

#7 Jul 23, 2008
Mom of 3,

Why do woman always have to resort to the fact they are child bearers. This is your god given right. Men are not biologically correct for this feat so its abnormal to make daft comments like that. I am sure if men had the correct tools for this they would manage. If women had the IQ of men then they could work out ways to make it easier for you to have babies. OH WAIT MAN HAS ALREADY DONE THAT FOR YOU! You are born to have babies so stop moaning about it or get a sex change (another thing man has created)
mr jason

Nottingham, UK

#9 Jul 30, 2008
its a funny old world really MrJohn. The reason why there are the false wrestling and arm wrestling is because it turns some men on. There is an audience for it. If it didnt turn men on then men would not let women win in these matches hence it is orcestrated by men for men (a fetish if you want)it is all male fantasy so in this instence men are still using women to get a sexual kick out of a false situation. Women are quite nieve in this situation but also use the mixed wrestling as a power trip..They feel powerful and equal. This is why you wont see men beating woman in these fantasies because it would not be a fantasy it would be reality so there would be no point in it. I have read a few forums on the "who is stronger" it is so funny because you get women who claim to be superstrong and can beat all men down. Why do women need to compare themselves to men all the time. I will tell you, because they know we are stronger in mind and body and they are constantly trying to compete with that. So basicelly they answer there own question of who is stronger by trying to compete. U dont see men trying to compete with woman do you. no!! because he doesnt gain anything from winning because he is already superior. Ok not superior that is wrong, women have there own strengths but they tend not to like them or want to use them. I am a mans man I believe there are 3 sexes now men women and men who call themselves men but are infact whimps. These men are in my mind an embarresment to manhood if u are a man u should be proud of it and protect your woman not run behind her when u get scared. If women were so strong and intellegent why the hell have men dominated the world since time began why was it not the other way around. Heck we even let women vote. at one time there were not alowed to vote. This just goes to show the male dominance. I really hope some deluded girlpower powderpuff girl argues back because i will blow her out of the water with facts and figures. girlpower my arse.
carolinajim

Jaffrey, NH

#10 Aug 22, 2008
Actually Jason, though most of the videos you're talking about are in fact produced to turn guys on - a decent amount are probably real. I know this because I am one of the guys that gets turned on by this sort of thing and I have wrestled with a bunch of women who have been able to beat me. WB270.com and enterthestorm.com , among others, are places where I found women to wrestle - but also ex girlfriends. Also, before you say anything, I am actually considered to be very strong and in good shape. 5'11 170. Very good upper body strength, perhaps a bit chickenlegged but I can still squat 225+. Some of these girls have definitely had stronger legs than me but all just seemed to have a higher pain threshold, more endurance and better wrestling skills. What is really interesting is that I do not get turned on by amazon bodybuilder types who can kick my ass -- reminds to much of men. NO, the girls that kicked my ass in wrestling are all fit but fairly thin/petite. One was even 5'2 and about 105. I shit you not.
Mr Jason

Nottingham, UK

#11 Aug 24, 2008
carolinajim wrote:
Actually Jason, though most of the videos you're talking about are in fact produced to turn guys on - a decent amount are probably real. I know this because I am one of the guys that gets turned on by this sort of thing and I have wrestled with a bunch of women who have been able to beat me. WB270.com and enterthestorm.com , among others, are places where I found women to wrestle - but also ex girlfriends. Also, before you say anything, I am actually considered to be very strong and in good shape. 5'11 170. Very good upper body strength, perhaps a bit chickenlegged but I can still squat 225+. Some of these girls have definitely had stronger legs than me but all just seemed to have a higher pain threshold, more endurance and better wrestling skills. What is really interesting is that I do not get turned on by amazon bodybuilder types who can kick my ass -- reminds to much of men. NO, the girls that kicked my ass in wrestling are all fit but fairly thin/petite. One was even 5'2 and about 105. I shit you not.
Ok, First and foremost I am a martail arts expert. I got my black belt at the age of 9 ( i shit you not) Men have a mental attitude of not giving everything when sparring with woman. You said yourself it turns you on to be over powered by a woman so you wrestle women for a sexual thrill. If you were to wrestle another male would you be so willing to let him slide all over you and pin you down? I think not!! you would use all your strength to get out of an uncomfortable situation. I thinks its fair to say part of you wants to be beat by a woman so you allow yourself to be put in a position to be overpowered. You might not realise this but you will be doing it with out thinking because its a sexual fantasy for you. If this wasnt a fantasy and these women you have wrestled were threating your life the outcome could be very dangerous for them. You have to understand its all fantasy. As for this pain threshold nonsense its all about the mind. Would you really try to hurt the women you are wrestling with. no ofcourse not! so how can you possible say they have a higher pain threshold than you, as soon as you thought they were in pain you would of stopped because its your male instict to do this. The women would of aplyed more presure purely because you are a male therefore you cant possible judge a pain threshhold if you are not aplying the same amount of presure. on that note I will move on to the videos on youtube 99% of them are fantasy like I said before. They are there to amuse men like yourself. If they are fantasy or you get a sexual kick out of loosing to woman then there is no way you are going to aply all your strengh to hurt them. What would be the point, you payed to get overpowered. What I am trying to say is the videos are false and are not a realistic view of a male power. What you are saying is nonsense if women had a better pain threshold or stronger muscles then the olympic records would be held by women not men. Please respond if you think I am out of touch with reality because I think some of you guys and girls are out of touch with reality
sue

AOL

#12 Aug 25, 2008
let your wife go off on you.you will enjoy it.have an open mind and you will love it. if you have A.O.L keywords go women pissing on women. then go down the list to femdom.look at that site.you will git idas. have fun
Mr Jason

Nottingham, UK

#13 Aug 25, 2008
sue wrote:
let your wife go off on you.you will enjoy it.have an open mind and you will love it. if you have A.O.L keywords go women pissing on women. then go down the list to femdom.look at that site.you will git idas. have fun
:) lol Sue, I dont have AOL and I would rather my girlfriend piss in the toilet instead of pissing on me. I do have an open mind and I would glady let me girlfriend dominate me in bed. Actually she does sometimes and I like it but my point is some people dont understand the difference between sexual play/fantasy and reality..Sue I take it you are one of these so called vixens that are confusing some of the men about there own masculinity :)) Can I ask you something?? dont you want a man to be a man.When you argue wouldnt you like him to just grab you close pin your hands behind your back with his hand and just kiss you. When my lass screams and shouts at me I just do that..she loves it, it drives her crazy I am a guy that likes to please my girlfriend in bed and be the man...To many men are turning into these whimps that want to believe man are stupid and soft. I am proud to be an man just like women should be proud to be women
Emily

Australia

#14 Sep 3, 2008
I can just say, yes, men naturally are built to be stronger than women. They have different hormones that promote muscle development more so than women. Naturally they are the dominant figure in that (historically speaking) they are the hunters and protectors and that is how they are built. This doesn't mean in any way that they are superior (as Mr Jason at one stage pointed out). The main point I would like to make is about intelligence. There is no evidence that men are 'smarter' than women. You can argue that men have made the majority of science discoveries, made all the maths formulas etc. and work higher up than females. Though, remember women have been oppressed in many ways for a long time in terms of things like careers, voting, freedom etc.(I am aware that women may not be as interested in pursuing careers as men and therefore aren't represented as strongly) therefore they may not have had the opportunity. Also, just because it isn't inclined of some women to pursue careers or study doesn't mean that they are intelligently inferior to those who do. Many extremely intelligent people prefer not to spend their time studying to become engineers or scientists or anything brilliant because they prefer other ways to live their lives.

So try to tell me a women can't be as man and its probably because you've got an ego or you're just so used to the idea that you, as a man, are the decision maker, the brains and the brawn.
Mr Jason

Nottingham, UK

#16 Sep 6, 2008
MrJohn wrote:
A lot of the YouTube-movies are fake, because you really can see muscular bodybuilding and fitness women who can easily beat a not so muscular man or a slender build man. Of course they have trained their muscles and such a man didnīt.
Another topic is that some studies show that men have because of their much more testosteron much more muscle build up capacity and that their muscles are stronger than female muscles, but those science tests and investigations also showed that women seem to have much more muscle endurance than men and that they can use much more percent of the muscle fibres, when they have to strain their muscles for a longer time. They seem also to beat a lot of men when it comes to double or even triple marathons and other very extreme enduring sports like long distance swimming in open water. On the other hand their are also studies who have shown, that men and women can develope in an equal way there muscles aand that what I said above woulnīt be true.
Thereīs one topic, where I as a man and other men have to admit that women are much more stronger and really can worn out a man and thatīs when it comes to the number of orgasms a woman can reach during a sex session.
A woman can also use, so as they call it in the Kamasutra: Vadavaka. The woman then locks up with her vaginal muscles the penis when the man has penetrated her and she really can give herself and her partner a lot of pleasure and she really can squeeze and milks the penis, till the man comes. The man has no chance to escape out of the vagina, when he would like to do that. So strong a vagina can be.
Mr John

It seems you really do have a fetish for strong women so who am i to ruin or spoil your fantasy. I just want to say a few things.

Long distance swimming like the channel swim would suit women better. They have more fat so this acts as an insulation for the muscle this it helps against hyperphermia also the ultra marathon would suit women better because the fat they tend to store would be a good sorce of energy for the muscle. But even saying this it is highly unlikely that females would dominate this sport if there were elite males to compete against. This ultra marathon is seen as pointless and has gained no interest with the media or sport fans.If elite males were to participate then I am sure they would domitate like they do every other sport.

In the 80s it was said that women seem to be catching the males in the olypic records. They were still far behind the males but were catching them fast. They said by the year 2000 females would be chalanging males in sports. What has happend? I will tell you. They banned steriods. Women are futher behind men in the records now than ever before. The steriod gives women testostarone (a male hormone) This helps women to become stronger than other women. This in itself tells you the male is physically stronger other wise males would be taking famale hormones to make them stronger than other males..I dont think I need to say anymore about this silly subject.

Mr John do you not understand that the videos on youtube are ridiculas. I mean the male is letting the female beat him because he can then go home and jack off to it. It doesnt matter how big the woman is, he is letting her do this to him. MOST OF THE TIME!!!! NOT ALL THE TIME sometimes the guy is so thin weak he may as well be a woman.

I am not going to coment on the vaginal subject but just to let you know the vaginal muscle is in place to help with birth giving not to rip your pennis off..hahhhahahaha I cant stop laughing at this. Just to help you keep you fantasy alive..yes women are soooooo strong there muscles are soooooo large they will soon dominate us men with there superior muscle strength. I saw a woman kill 2 lions with her bare hands.:)

Mrs emily,

I agree with everything you said its nice to see someone who has a bit of inteligence about them :)
carolinajim

Jaffrey, NH

#17 Sep 18, 2008
Jason you make some good points and of course, in the general sense are right. however, i can tell you that in some of my wrestling sessions I have been going flat out - 100%- and was totally dominated by the smaller more petite girl. Now, you are right - that being overpowered by them turns me on. Still, there have been sessions where it is clear that I can easily beat the girl - and in those cases, like you said, I do not go out of my way to do so. Instead I just playfully wrestle and usually let them get me into holds. Even in some of those cases, I am then surprised by the strength of the hold and my inability to get out. However, there have been many - and I mean man - girls who simply outwrestled me to the point where they could toy with me. Also, in those cases, those girls DID seem to have a higher degree of pain threshold then me. Of course it is because they are trained wrestlers - jiu jitsu experts and used to fighting often. Still, there was a 5'3 110 pound girl from enterthestorm.com that I had in the strongest hardest headlock and then full nelson that I could apply - and I am strong - and she literally just waited it out and then put me into a move I tapped from. Say what you want but this is the honest truth.
frankland

AOL

#18 Sep 26, 2008
I went to A jim 2 black guys made jokes about little white girl.Maby It wood ben vulger remarks.she kick there ass on every thing thay thought thay were best at.
carolinajim

Jaffrey, NH

#20 Oct 7, 2008
John - I think I did give examples :-) Basically, I put these girls in headlocks, full nelsons and even sleeper type choke holds and try to tighten until they submit (and as I said, I am a strong guy - I can curl 45lb dumbells, bench 225 for one rep) and they just hold out, wiggle and squirm and ultimately tire me and get out of the holds and put me into something I tap out of. Now, I am not a wrestler or jui jitsu expert and I am sure guys with a lot of experience in either would do better than me. However, I am just disputing one of Jason's points. Actually, to dispute another -- while yes, many women want the guy "to be the man" in bed and take charge, many are also dominant and like to be more take charge. Many men and women like to switch roles (like I do). This has nothign to do with being a wimp outside of the bedroom. Trust me, I take shit from noone outside of the bedroom. I have seen the most macho even military special forces guys turned on by dominant women. that is just a sexual taste, like tits versus ass men. It is too bad that the power of some jiu jitsu holds is not well known to women - along with the knowledge of just how many men are in fact turned on by a strong woman (as evidenced by the hundreds of sites devoted to it and the popularity of strong women roles in movies and TV). The time will come though!
carolinajim

Jaffrey, NH

#21 Oct 7, 2008
I will add one final note -- the original question of "are female muscles stronger than male" may be positively answered. That is, many people read it broadly to mean "are women stronger than men generally?" Despite my stories, the answer generally is no. Even the girls who did beat me in wrestling were not all stronger than me. However, I do think that if you took a muscular 130lb man and a muscular 130lb woman, the woman could have some stronger muscles. This is why women in low weight wrestling are beating men.
Mr Jason

Nottingham, UK

#22 Oct 8, 2008
Carolinajim I understand what you are saying and you have a good point, in some ways you are correct. Men like to be dominated just as much as women.Who ever is dominated will be the one who is actually more turned on. When a man is dominant he likes it but when it is turned he likes even more. This is exactly the same for the women. Everybody likes to feel in control, when you lose this control it can be so much more exciting, take the adrenaline junkies for example. They are on a high when they jump of a building or do something they cant control and this gives them a rush. These women that like to be dominant over men feel in control and yes they like it but if you turn the table and take the control away from them, then I can guarantee you they would love it more. Again its the same for the men. My point is men generally will allow the woman control as appose to woman be able to take control. You have to look at what you are saying a lot deeper than just saying men or women are stronger. You are right about the popularity of strong women in movies or in these wrestling youtube clips but you have to think about this. These clips are aimed at men for mens pleasure, again it is for the pleasure of man that we allow women to do this, you could actually say women are being exploited in a sexual way again. To prove this, most of the mixed wrestling is done by women is suspenders, g strings or something erotic. This is not new, exploiting women like this has been done for so long the only difference is its been done in a very clever way, Its been done by letting women feel dominant and in control so men can get their sexual thrills. Do you think women produce these clips or films..No its men. If this was not a turn on for some men then this would not be happening. Every thing we are talking about is to ultimately fulfill the males fantasy. No matter what we are saying or how you try to disguise it. Look the forum was about are female muscles stronger than males? The reason for this forum was for someone to read fantasy stories and get aroused. I dont like it but thats what we are really talking about.I answered the question about this. No, womens muscles are not stronger than males. wrestling has nothing to do with strenght its to do with technique. I was a kickboxing and self defence instructor. I fought in many compitions around the world. If a woman is blinded by what she thinks she can do in a fight then she is going to get herself in a lot of danger at one point. Yes what they have learned works but if she comes up against a man who determind to hurt her then she should not face him. I am sorry but men have this destruct button that most women dont understand. Its one thing to wrestle are playfight but if a man has a sick mind and wants to hurt a women then the chances are he will despite what knowladge a woman has about self defence. I stop teaching it because i was giving women a false confidence. Anyway thats a different story. all i want to say is fantasy and reality are two different things and even though carolinajim wrestled smaller women and lost it was still only play fighting or sparring and you cant use that to judge strenght. Carolina jim can i ask you one question. if you were in a life and death situation with one of these wrestlers you fought do you think you would be the one walking away or do you think they have the strenght to kill you. I know thats a bit extreme but can you answer the question.
carolinajim

Jaffrey, NH

#23 Oct 14, 2008
Jason,

I hear you about the movies and staged fights -- and I do not disagree that they are staged for the men's pleasure. I get turned on by it (to be honest) and I assume you do too (since you are spending so much time on the subject). My only point was that there are women who can kick my and many other guys asses and they are not all muscle bound hulks. That really, training can be a great equalizer.

To answer your question, without a doubt, some of the women I wrestled with could also have totally kicked my ass for real. As an extreme example, I have no doubt that Gina Carano could wipe the floor with me - or most guys. If you look on Youtube (i don't have time now) you can quickly find a video of a trained female kickboxer who destroys a strong male construction worker in the ring. As less extreme examples, on wb270.com , look up Lia Labowe, Yasmin, or Liz Lightspeed - or any of dozens of others, and read their reviews. These are anonymous reviews and people have no reason to lie. Again, some of these girls personally could kick my ass, i know it for sure.
Mr Jason

Nottingham, UK

#25 Oct 17, 2008
Hi Caroline jim,

It doesnt turn me on really but everybody has their fantasies. The reason I am replying on this site is because I know women dont have stronger mscles than men. Its ludicrous to even say this but everybody has there own beliefs. Everything you are saying is the truth in your eyes. What I mean is that you believe that most women are stronger or can beat you in a fight. Who am i to argue this, i dont know you. And to be honest its not a measure of a person who is stronger physically but who is stronger mentally. That person will succeed in life. if you think you are unable to beat a 120 pound girl and you weigh 180 pounds + then you have a problem with self asteem, i think. The secret of martial arts is not just about knowladge, its having the belief and confidance that you are able to come out on top. Given you are a man and are built for battle you should have the upperhand. the reason you dont have the upper hand is all in your mind my friend. The fight you are refering to on youtube about a female kickboxer. She is called sunshine and she fought an old drunk who gets beat up all the time at his local bar..He is obnoxious and rude. But the smallest man should be able to put that drunk on his arse anyway. Her promoters found the easist opponent for her. She is one of the best female fighters. On the other hand there was a fight between the greatest female figher, pound for pound she was the best and she wanted to fight a pro male kickboxer. She was knocked out cold in the second round. She had never been on the floor and knocks out nearly all of her female fighters, she beat sunshine on points a while ago. She has stated she would never fight a male with something to prove again. Dupri is also one of the best female fighters who spars with men and even she has said she will only spar with men that leave there ego outside because they will fight to hard. I understand there are exeptions but nothing like what you believe.

Hello Mr john, No i dont want to discuss if little girls can arm wrestle guys..this is the kind of wierd fantasy that I am talking about. I am sure a lot of young girls will beat young boys..the reason is girls develop faster than men but man grow slower but stronger...I didnt develop untill about 18 but i can confidantly say i grew into a man who repsects women but does not fear them.....I cant even believ I had to say that. Guys get a grip of yourselves and be pround to be men. Men and women are different we are built differently. Our bones our muscles are different. Thats why men can run fatser jump higher and lift heavier things. Thats why women are beautifull and nuturing they are able to multitask better than men. We are just different come to terms with it.
mr jason

Nottingham, UK

#27 Oct 18, 2008
ok mr john. Yes you are right about rijker...and as far as women go she is one of the best...but still very low compared to her male counterparts...so i think i have proved my point at last
carolinajim

Jaffrey, NH

#28 Nov 19, 2008
Mr Jason - you are misquoting me. I did not say that most women could beat most men or are stronger than most men. Just that some women can beat some men and some women are stronger than some men. In both cases, the woman may be smaller than the man and training is the equalizer. If you think that you can take kyra gracie or gina carano in a fight, you are probably dreaming -- or extremely, extremely trained. Similarly, even the lowest lightweight olympic woman weightlifters, who are super petite and weigh about 100 pounds, can probably outlift you in the lifts that they practice. Even a well trained teen girl like "barbie barbell" can outsquat a bigger stronger guy like me. Of course, in almost all circumstances, a guy who is an elite athlete and is as trained and is the same size, can usually do better. However, the skill gap has been closing in most sports over the years and in many sports, the elite women now are hitting levels that elite men were at just decades or less ago. Going back to fighting, there is nothing mental about me going to a local brazilian jiu jitsu dojo as a novice and getting thoroughly wipped by a blue belt girl who is 50 pounds less than me. Go try it if you don't believe me. All of what I am writing is (a) totally logical and (b) already proven. It has nothing to do with attitude.

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