Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 449 comments on the www.brusselsjournal.com story from Oct 19, 2011, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, www.brusselsjournal.com reports that:

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Nina Q

Thessaloníki, Greece

#430 Dec 30, 2013
No-Doubt wrote:
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Second surah
Allah say
So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah ," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn.
Surah albaqarah 79
How can you prove that Mohammed didnt present his own ideas as Allah's?

no really how can you prove it?

I say you just cant.

you accept it as such Because Mohamed said and the scribes wrote so.
but..
I refer you to surah 2 .

So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah ,"

well the scribes wrote the scripture with their own hands what no one can ever prove is that they wrote what Mohamed really said and second that Mohamed didnt say his own ideas and presented as .. Allah's But it was Allah's own really .

no muslim can prove that.
Woe to those who write the scriptures

Since: Sep 13

Dubai, UAE

#431 Dec 31, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
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A lake has partially dried up, the river hasn't.
There's no mountain of gold.
I didn't say that mountain of gold appeared

I said it will appear.

I said river dry and didn't say it dry totally

This link two years old

I don't know when mountain of gold will appear maybe when it dry up totally

Mountain didn't show now it doesn't mean it will not appear

You said there is no gold in river and I posted you link
That there was gold in river

This gold because effect of wave on mountain of gold which give same effect of sculpture

What left from sculpture go with river ( they found crude gold

Here example of rock of gold covered with layer of ......

http://t2.gstatic.com/images...

Since: Sep 13

Dubai, UAE

#432 Dec 31, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
<quoted text>
So figs and olives are good for us? I think people already knew that.
You should read article instead of judging

They knew it is good

But they didn't know about combination of fig and olive

Scientist found that combine eating fig and olive
Produce something permit anti aging

Without need spending million on anti aging products
Or research

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#433 Dec 31, 2013
No-Doubt wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't say that mountain of gold appeared
I said it will appear.
I said river dry and didn't say it dry totally
This link two years old
I don't know when mountain of gold will appear maybe when it dry up totally
Mountain didn't show now it doesn't mean it will not appear
You said there is no gold in river and I posted you link
That there was gold in river
This gold because effect of wave on mountain of gold which give same effect of sculpture
What left from sculpture go with river ( they found crude gold
Here example of rock of gold covered with layer of ......
http://t2.gstatic.com/images...
Still no dried up river or mountain of gold.

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#434 Dec 31, 2013
No-Doubt wrote:
<quoted text>
You should read article instead of judging
They knew it is good
But they didn't know about combination of fig and olive
Scientist found that combine eating fig and olive
Produce something permit anti aging
Without need spending million on anti aging products
Or research
So why don't Arabic countries have the oldest populations?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countrie...

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#435 Dec 31, 2013
No-Doubt wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't know everything
People said same thing about many verses
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =2ekIMXhEYh8XX
Scientist turn muslim
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Verses that turn scientist muslim
http://navedz.com/2009/06/24/by-the-fig-and-t...
The article appears to be a lie.

All plants contain Metallothionein not just figs and olives as the article claims.
http://www.plantphysiol.org/content/155/4/175...
And the alleged article doesn't even have any links.

Since: Sep 13

Dubai, UAE

#436 Dec 31, 2013
Nina Q wrote:
<quoted text>
How can you prove that Mohammed didnt present his own ideas as Allah's?
no really how can you prove it?
I say you just cant.
you accept it as such Because Mohamed said and the scribes wrote so.
but..
I refer you to surah 2 .
So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah ,"
well the scribes wrote the scripture with their own hands what no one can ever prove is that they wrote what Mohamed really said and second that Mohamed didnt say his own ideas and presented as .. Allah's But it was Allah's own really .
no muslim can prove that.
Woe to those who write the scriptures
How I am sure Muhammad peace be upon him didn't make his own allah

It is very clear from Holly book

Content, miracle ( bing bang was mentioned in quran) ve gravity and many other ...

Uneducated person will not be able to know huge amount of scientific knoweldge in short period of time

Isn't that true
So how do you expect prophet make his own allah while
It did take long time from newton to discover gravity

By the way, prophet didnt have time to think because once he asked people to stop worshipping rocks and worship creator they fight him

Plus he will not be able to know about human process of creation without tools microscope and so on

Isn't that true!

Even scientists achievement doesn't reach more than thirty while quran mentioned most scientific facts discovered by scientists and which not discovered ( eye drop healing cartcar...

Scientist life will not be enough for more....

No one was able to write piece of writing such like Quran till nowadays while they pass to step in moon they fail in challenge

.
Also, they fail in all challenge quran presented as usuall

Scientists gathered to make cell of fly but they failed
Only one cell

The declare they can't because it is complicated

God say in quran

Text
O mankind!
A similitude has been coined, so listen to it (carefully):
Verily! Those on whom you call besides Allah,
cannot create (even) a fly,
even though they combine together for the purpose.
And if they fly snatched away a thing from them, they would have no power to release it from the fly, so weak are (both) the seeker and the sought.
Al-Qur'an: Ch. 22 V. 73

Another failure

• they even can't take back what fly take from them

Scientists tried to open fly stomach to take food back but they failed
They found once fly insert food it change chemically

•disbelievers criticized quran because it talk about fly.

God replied to them in one line which is absloute miracle,

It must be upper

Because translation of &#1601;&#1605;&#15 75; &#1601;&#1608;&#16 02;&#1607;&#1575;

Mean uppper

God say in quran :
Indeed, Allah is not timid to present an example - that of a mosquito or what is smaller than it.(upper)

Scientists found that on the fly living insect

http://dubaieyes.net/up/upadmin/D110515005019...

They also found that on the fly wing living another insect fly ( how prophet will be able to know such thing without microscope or tools

I will continue my answer. In next post

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#437 Dec 31, 2013
No-Doubt wrote:
<quoted text>
How I am sure Muhammad peace be upon him didn't make his own allah
It is very clear from Holly book
Content, miracle ( bing bang was mentioned in quran) ve gravity and many other ...
021.030: Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder?

The Big Bang happened about 13.8 billion years ago.
The Earth formed about 4.6 billion years ago.
So the Earth didn't exist until 9 billion years after the Big Bang so the Quran is wrong.
No-Doubt wrote:
Scientists gathered to make cell of fly but they failed
Only one cell
The declare they can't because it is complicated
This is a lie.
Please provide real evidence if you wish to dispute this being a lie.
No-Doubt wrote:
• they even can't take back what fly take from them
Scientists tried to open fly stomach to take food back but they failed
They found once fly insert food it change chemically
Scientists are fully aware of how a flies stomach works.
So that's just another lie.
No-Doubt wrote:
•disbelievers criticized quran because it talk about fly.
God replied to them in one line which is absloute miracle,
It must be upper
Because translation of &#1601;&#1605;&#15 75; &#1601;&#1608;&#16 02;&#1607;&#1575;
Mean uppper
God say in quran :
Indeed, Allah is not timid to present an example - that of a mosquito or what is smaller than it.(upper)
Scientists found that on the fly living insect
http://dubaieyes.net/up/upadmin/D110515005019...
They also found that on the fly wing living another insect fly ( how prophet will be able to know such thing without microscope or tools
We can see smaller insects than mosquitoes.

Since: Sep 13

Dubai, UAE

#438 Dec 31, 2013
Grave is short answer :

No one can protect human body under earth other than allah

If it was no allah ( obviously his body will ruin)



Prophet miracle ( read it) prove he is massenger of god

If prophet muhammad peace be upon him make his own allah, he will not go against his people and torture pain for nothing

If it was for money
He was leader but he didn't live in palace
He gave all his money to poor people and most of time he slept with no food ( hunger)

Every one lie there will be reason for his lies forexample, when church man sell
Indulgence they do it for money

But prophet didnt care about money

Even his friends

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

When we see Quran it doesn't fit sinful incilation

Like wine

Quran permit wine ( health reason and many other

While rest religion allow it ( result in cancer and many other ethical issues like raping ( not safe community

Do you expect that god doesn't know wine is harmful so that he allow it,

If he didn't know that mean he is not god

As we know, God know known and unknown

It is very simple to know which religion is truth
By it is law

If I said " You slept with you daughters and they got pregnant

How do you feel, of course insulting

Bible say that lot did slept with his daughters and got pregnant after drinking wine

Writer of bible insulting lot peace be upon him

As it is known prophets are good example
Bible presenting them as bad example ( obviously corrupted)

When jonah make went way from his people without god permission, god punished him ( bible

It is not logical god will not punish lot if he slept with his daughters

• bible say jesus brought bible while current bible written by people not lived in jesus time , they were not prophet
How do you expect they know what happened in jesus time and rest prophets

Let's say he wrote down what he heard from people
So what about miracle in bible ( how did he knew all that stuff) obviously he corrupt it

Jesus asking people to believe in gospel/ bible

, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.


Quranic verses that you provide about writing scripture

Owe to those write scripture : refer to people who corrupt bible and torah read next line so you will understand it

They killed jesus out of self interest according to bible
Mark 15

So how do you expect they kept on bible and didn't corrupt it ( nowadays they found many bible have same content with difference in lines

19 john confirm corruption not only in level of writing but also level of faith ( salvation - jesus was killed by jews so there was no salvation

6 As soon as the chief priests and their officials saw him, they shouted,“Crucify! Crucify!”

But Pilate answered,“You take him and crucify him. As for me, I find no basis for a charge against him.”

7 The Jewish leaders insisted,“We have a law, and according to that law he must die, because he claimed to be the Son of God.”

Same thing with torah

Since: Sep 13

Dubai, UAE

#439 Dec 31, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
<quoted text>
Still no dried up river or mountain of gold.
It dried partially ( it mean it happened in some area

So it happened

That explain why mountain of gold doesn't appear

Just Wait and see

Cancri55 planet twice size of earth Consist of diamond

So it is not impossible

Since: Sep 13

Dubai, UAE

#440 Dec 31, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
<quoted text>
The article appears to be a lie.
All plants contain Metallothionein not just figs and olives as the article claims.
http://www.plantphysiol.org/content/155/4/175...
And the alleged article doesn't even have any links.
It is easy to claim it is lie

Eating fig and olive in combination

Notice combination result in Metallothionein

( olive + fig = Metallothionein

Equatation in chemistry

All discoveries built on equation

Then bring food consist of
Metallothionein

With prove

They knew Metallothionein for long time but they didn't know what is good for

Quran giving solution without research

It explain no one is able to know Metallothionein
In a day and night other than God

One line explain many things like scientific
And cosmetic solution ( anti aging and so on

I provide scientific paper

You giving me feeling that there is bad intention on your request not seeking for knoweldge just like atheist

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4...

(MT) plays an important role in the detoxification of cadmium..... there is no interference between the 2 sets of primers (Fig 1 shows 2 fragments from one reaction of the expected sizes).

Since: Sep 13

Dubai, UAE

#441 Dec 31, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
<quoted text>
So why don't Arabic countries have the oldest populations?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countrie...
What do you mean!

I table content there are arab countries like Saudi arabia lebnan..... etc

Since: Sep 13

Dubai, UAE

#442 Dec 31, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
<quoted text>
021.030: Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder?
The Big Bang happened about 13.8 billion years ago.
The Earth formed about 4.6 billion years ago.
So the Earth didn't exist until 9 billion years after the Big Bang so the Quran is wrong.
<quoted text>
This is a lie.
Please provide real evidence if you wish to dispute this being a lie.
<quoted text>
Scientists are fully aware of how a flies stomach works.
So that's just another lie.
<quoted text>
We can see smaller insects than mosquitoes.
You bring aa verse from quran and explain it as you want

Talking about joining not about period time of creation

It could be created before of after but at the end it was joined

Do you believe scientist know more than creator
Aabsouletly not

God say in quran

Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?

Since: Sep 13

Dubai, UAE

#443 Dec 31, 2013
Continue

Scientist fully know stomach of...

First let me tell you you r laying

You don't know anything about stomach of insect

Fly doesn't have stomach

So don't claim knoweldge

• you can see smaller fly than fly

Ok then look for the fly that living on top of fly

If you see it so we will say those scientist crazy for using microscope in order to find it

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#444 Dec 31, 2013
No-Doubt wrote:
<quoted text>
It is easy to claim it is lie
Eating fig and olive in combination
Notice combination result in Metallothionein
( olive + fig = Metallothionein
Equatation in chemistry
All discoveries built on equation
Then bring food consist of
Metallothionein
With prove
They knew Metallothionein for long time but they didn't know what is good for
Quran giving solution without research
It explain no one is able to know Metallothionein
In a day and night other than God
One line explain many things like scientific
And cosmetic solution ( anti aging and so on
I provide scientific paper
You giving me feeling that there is bad intention on your request not seeking for knoweldge just like atheist
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4...
(MT) plays an important role in the detoxification of cadmium..... there is no interference between the 2 sets of primers (Fig 1 shows 2 fragments from one reaction of the expected sizes).
The article you linked to claims the Japanese scientists only found MT in figs and olives when in fact it's found in all plants. That makes it a lie.

"Therefore, scientists kept searching for MT in plants. A team of Japanese scientists searched for this magical substance that works as a removal of the symptoms of aging. The team found subject substance only in two types of plants; fig and olive."
http://navedz.com/2009/06/24/by-the-fig-and-t...

So where's the miracle?

If you wish to dispute this then please post a link to a real scientific article which claims only figs and olives have this magical substance.

Since: Sep 13

Dubai, UAE

#445 Dec 31, 2013
Totally atheist way of talking

Want to prove all evidence we provide lies

While they believe monkey turned to human

without prove or logical..

We have lot of monkey didn't turned to human

Why it didn't turned to human untill now

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#446 Dec 31, 2013
No-Doubt wrote:
<quoted text>
It dried partially ( it mean it happened in some area
So it happened
That explain why mountain of gold doesn't appear
Just Wait and see
Cancri55 planet twice size of earth Consist of diamond
So it is not impossible
I'll wait.

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#447 Dec 31, 2013
No-Doubt wrote:
<quoted text>
You bring aa verse from quran and explain it as you want
Talking about joining not about period time of creation
It could be created before of after but at the end it was joined
Do you believe scientist know more than creator
Aabsouletly not
God say in quran
Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?
If you are going to claim the verse refers to the Big Bang then that must be the separation mentioned in the verse.
So is it referring to the Big Bang or not?

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#448 Dec 31, 2013
No-Doubt wrote:
Continue
Scientist fully know stomach of...
First let me tell you you r laying
You don't know anything about stomach of insect
Fly doesn't have stomach
So don't claim knoweldge
• you can see smaller fly than fly
Ok then look for the fly that living on top of fly
If you see it so we will say those scientist crazy for using microscope in order to find it
Scientists know about flies eating habits.

"Because no species of fly has teeth or any other organ or limb that allows them to eat solid foods, flies consume only liquid food or finely granular foods, such as pollen, and their mouthparts and digestive tracts show various modifications for such diets. Female Tabanidae use knife-like mandibles and maxillae to make a cross-shaped incision in the hosts' skin and then lap up the blood. The gut includes large diverticulae, allowing the insect to store small quantities of liquid after a meal.[4]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly#Anatomy_and_...

The Quran doesn't say anything about flies on top of flies.

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#449 Dec 31, 2013
No-Doubt wrote:
Totally atheist way of talking
Want to prove all evidence we provide lies
While they believe monkey turned to human
without prove or logical..
We have lot of monkey didn't turned to human
Why it didn't turned to human untill now
Actually a very nice selection of fossil apemen has been found.
http://www.all-creatures.org/hope/gw/human_ev...

The reason there are no apemen today is because they simply couldn't compete with us for resources and so went extinct.
The only apes and monkeys alive today are those that don't compete with us.

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