Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 Full story: The Brussels Journal 214,807

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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#197364 Dec 22, 2013
A reformist weeds out the hereticism seen in the flock.

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#197365 Dec 22, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Jesus was a heretic, not a reformist.
you are entitled to your opinion I suppose

but the historical record sure doesnt support that

and your nonsense about theology has no part of it, as organized Judaism is more robust in theology than you care to admit

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#197366 Dec 22, 2013
A religion can evolve or digress only if it overthrows most or all of its original teachings/practices and does away with its scriptural God by pushing forward new doctrines that reflect teachings and practices based on a different set of principles other than those advocated by the original book. Editing a religious book by picking and choosing is not reform. It is simply editing while sticking to the principal tenets and worship of the original God of its scripture.

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#197368 Dec 22, 2013
The first word is never the last word.

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#197369 Dec 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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but the historical record sure doesnt support that
What does the historical record support? Give me examples.

I'd like to check your claim.

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#197370 Dec 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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organized Judaism is more robust in theology than you care to admit
LOL.

Judaism - organized or unorganized - is an ugly relic of a barbaric past.

Among the world's religions, Judaism has perhaps the highest attrition rate in losing most of its flock who turn away from the barbarism of the Tanach in disgust and readily take to atheism, eastern mysticism or rationalism.

Judaism is an object of ridicule and disgust everywhere.

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#197371 Dec 22, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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What does the historical record support? Give me examples.
I'd like to check your claim.
you cant prove a negative - thats my point

You are doing the same thing the Christians are doing, you are canonizing an individual on your own

Dont be a Hughbe. Just admit you made a boo boo and move on.

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#197372 Dec 22, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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LOL.
Judaism - organized or unorganized - is an ugly relic of a barbaric past.
Among the world's religions, Judaism has perhaps the highest attrition rate in losing most of its flock who turn away from the barbarism of the Tanach in disgust and readily take to atheism, eastern mysticism or rationalism.
Judaism is an object of ridicule and disgust everywhere.
opinion noted

irrelevant

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#197374 Dec 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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you cant prove a negative - thats my point

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What?

Which negative cannot be proved?

You spoke of a historical record? right?

Give me the historical record so that i can check your bull shit claims.

Where intelligence is concerned, please remember, that you're not fit to polish my shoes.

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#197375 Dec 22, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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What?
Which negative cannot be proved?
You spoke of a historical record? right?
Give me the historical record so that i can check your bull shit claims.
Where intelligence is concerned, please remember, that you're not fit to polish my shoes.
no, I said your claims were NOT supported by the historical record

one of these days you need to learn how to read

calm down, dont choke on your knish

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#197376 Dec 22, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Jesus was a heretic, not a reformist.
just so you are clear what you said

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#197377 Dec 22, 2013
End of debate. I don't like debating intellectually deficient and fanatical individuals.

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#197378 Dec 22, 2013
Good night.

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#197379 Dec 22, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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What?
Which negative cannot be proved?
You spoke of a historical record? right?
Give me the historical record so that i can check your bull shit claims.
Where intelligence is concerned, please remember, that you're not fit to polish my shoes.
Now back to the substance

Admittedly the line between heretic and reformer is a matter of opinion. But what we do know about Jesus is that there is no record from himself that he was a god. According to folklore, he was pushing religious reform. According to folklore, he was Jewish, and in all likelihood a teacher (i.e. a rabbi). Therefore, according to folklore, he was a reform Jew, or a reform Rabbi.

I dont find any of his teachings heretical, and his ethical teachings were right out of the normative Jewish teachings at the time, even his disdain for ritual (more than one prophet from earlier times had the same message). His theology (or what you would call his emphasis on nonduality) does not contradict ANY of the normative Jewish views, then, or now, because Jews then, and now, have been most accepting of these things.

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#197380 Dec 22, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
End of debate. I don't like debating intellectually deficient and fanatical individuals.
running away is no answer either

just admit you made a boo boo and move on

dont be so zealous

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#197381 Dec 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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well, once you hit the reply button, the previous posts disappear and you fly naked
Do you consider yourself a prophet? I know the Christians have different notions of a what a prophet is than us Jews, and I have no idea how Muslims define them as.
rabbee: well what do you call, anyone who is passing on what G-D actually came and gave to them? when i consider HaShem G-D, i got this all from as THE-PROPHET. all i am doing, is just telling you all about IT. this is from G-D, and not from any inspired men. i have seen and fought against G-D, and lost the fight after 41 years of fighting, and live to tell about IT.

so it is not my fault, if G-D made me look like a prophet. i grew up in a family with an atheist father. how in the hell, would i know any of this if not actually for G-D? it's too weird to be made up, by any man on earth. i lost the fight, G-D Won. now i have no other choice, but to do as THEY said to me. THEY could have crushed me, easier than i could crush an ant. but THEY, didn't. how can any one, with that much power be so gentle? and no one on earth, is capable of telling me my life story before it happened. i have a real hard time accepting this, now it's your turn.

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#197382 Dec 22, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Jesus was a heretic, not a reformist.
rabbee: well that is what all you, heretic pagan demonic reformist say.

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#197384 Dec 22, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
A religion can evolve or digress only if it overthrows most or all of its original teachings/practices and does away with its scriptural God by pushing forward new doctrines that reflect teachings and practices based on a different set of principles other than those advocated by the original book. Editing a religious book by picking and choosing is not reform. It is simply editing while sticking to the principal tenets and worship of the original God of its scripture.
rabbee: well we have already begun that, by overthrowing all of your religious teaching and practices not to mention doing away with your being a scriptural g-d.

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#197385 Dec 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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running away is no answer either
just admit you made a boo boo and move on
dont be so zealous
rabbee: yeah those joelites, are worse than the eeshmaelites that bought and sold Yosheph in human trafficking.
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#197388 Dec 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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running away is no answer either
just admit you made a boo boo and move on
dont be so zealous
At this point you're supposed to fall down and worship His JOELness..l.

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