Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256402 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

Seeker

Lowell, MA

#193679 Oct 27, 2013
MAAT you are an extremely creative person. Do you do conspiracy theories as well? I'll bet if you think about it long enough, you can explain how the US government could keep the thousands of engineers and employees involved in the moon landing quiet about that conspiracy.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#193680 Oct 27, 2013
MAAT wrote:
l.o.l
buford/el cid for they know not what they quote.
The jinn (Arabic: ال&#15 80;ن‎ al-jinn, singular ال&#15 80;ني al-jinnī; also spelled djinn), or genies, are spiritual creatures mentioned in the Qur'an and other Islamic texts
This article neglected to mention the original origin of the concept of the Jinn. It's not wrong, it just simply omitted that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabian_mytholog...
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#193681 Oct 27, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Muslims don't practice what they preach!
MUSLIMS BILL-SHIT!
Muslims murder innocent people and claim that is worshiping God!
Date Country City/State Killed Injured Description
10/17/2013 Iraq Baghdad 8 15 Islamists set off a bomb in a Christian neighborhood, killing at least eight residents.
10/10/2013 Syria Jaramana 11 23 Eleven people are killed when Sunni terrorists fire mortars into a Christian neighborhood.
10/5/2013 Centrafrique Bangassou 9 0 Nine Christians protesting violence by Muslim 'rebels' are killed when their demonstration is attacked.
9/28/2013 Nigeria Zangang 15 12 Muslim militia attack a Christian village, hacking to death fifteen residents and burning down their homes.
Tell me Muslim why do Muslims murder innocent people!
Off-topic!

Muslims are even killing Muslims. There are Christians, who are not only killing Christians but also the Muslims. No big deal, so con't worry about that, Drama Queen.

I had written this:

"Haven't heard the name of this God called, God Maat.

Is this a new name of the Christian God, Sham?

Or were you trying your level best to write, "What is the nature of God, Maat?"
Learn where and when to use a comma.

The crafty writers of the New Testament made sure that they omitted commas, to misinform and mislead their flock."

Why are Christians like you so poor in punctuation? Avoiding a comma seems to be central to the Christian texts, so that Jesus can be fraudulently shown as God or the Father and vice versa.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#193682 Oct 27, 2013
MAAT wrote:
l.o.l
buford/el cid for they know not what they quote.
The jinn (Arabic: &#1575;&#1604;&#15 80;&#1606;&#8206; al-jinn, singular &#1575;&#1604;&#15 80;&#1606;&#1610; al-jinn&#299;; also spelled djinn), or genies, are spiritual creatures mentioned in the Qur'an and other Islamic texts who inhabit an unseen world in dimensions beyond the visible universe of humans. Together, the jinn, humans and angels make up the three sapient creations of God. The Qur'an mentions that the jinn are made of a smokeless and "scorching fire",[1] but also physical in nature, being able to interact physically with people and objects and likewise be acted upon.[clarification needed][2] Like human beings, the jinn can also be good, evil, or neutrally benevolent and hence have freewill like humans and unlike angels.[3] The jinn are mentioned frequently in the Qur&#702;an, and the 72nd surah is titled S&#363;rat al-Jinn.
wiki jin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinn
the 72 nations have to go through fire were ha shem will Judge and destroy them but for Israel since he is their god.
See the discussion between the two schools of thought of Hillel and the other one (sorry?)as to how fair that really was and wheter that could not be mitigated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon
Wonderfull all the emanations of the human mind.
The evil eye is a malevolent look that many cultures believe able to cause injury or misfortune for the person at whom it is directed for reasons of envy or dislike. Talismans created to protect against the evil eye are also frequently called "evil eyes." [1][2] The term also refers to the power attributed to certain persons of inflicting injury or bad luck by such an envious or ill-wishing look. The evil eye is usually given to others who remain unaware.[3]
The "evil eye" is also known in Arabic as &#703;ayn al-&#7717;as&#363;d (&#1593;&#1610;&#1 606; &#1575;&#1604;&#15 81;&#1587;&#1608;& #1583;&#8206;), in Hebrew as &#703;áyin h&#257;-rá&#703; (&#1506;&#1463;&#1 497;&#1460;&#1503; &#1492;&#1464;&#15 12;&#1463;&#1506;& #8206;), in Kurdish çaw e zar (eye of evil/sickness), in Persian as chashm zakhm (&#1670;&#1588;&#1 605; &#1586;&#1582;&#16 05; eye-caused injury) or chashm e bad (bad eye), in Turkish as Nazar (nazar is from Arabic &#1606;&#1614;&#15 92;&#1614;&#1585; Nathar which means eye vision or eyesight), similarly in Urdu/Hindi/Punjabi the word Nazar or Boori Nazar (bad eye/look) is used, in Amharic buda, in Afghan Pashto cheshim mora, and also "Nazar", in Greek as to máti (&#964;&#959; &#956;&#940;&#964; &#953;), in Spanish as mal de ojo,[4] in Italian as malocchio, in Portuguese mau-olhado ("act of giving an evil/sick look"), and in Hawaiian it is known as "stink eye"[5] or maka pilau meaning "rotten eyes".[6]
The idea expressed by the term causes many cultures to pursue protective measures against it. The concept and its significance vary widely among different cultures, primarily the Middle East. The idea appears several times in translations of the Old Testament.[7] It was a widely extended belief among many Mediterranean and Asian tribes and cultures. Charms and decorations featuring the eye are a common sight across Turkey, Iran, and Afghanistan and have become a popular choice of souvenir with tourists.
...I quite like them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evil_eye
You are very well-read, MAAT.

Looks like you have been through various borders and have travelled quite a few seas.

Shalom
BMZ
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#193683 Oct 27, 2013
MAAT wrote:
<quoted text>
Before you get confused. It's mainly about people not taking revenge into their own hands.
That is correct. It goes even deeper than that, but I would rather not explain at this time, but you are essentially correct. But it certainly is not saying to turn the other cheek if someone is murdering your family. It was saying to stop being a culture bent on revenge and instead become a culture of forgiveness. Some of the deeper ideas behind that are similar to Eastern ideas such as the more you fight evil, the more power you give it. When you respond to bad behavior with bad behavior, you legitimize the bad behavior.

Jesus' main goal did not seem to be to abolish Hebrew law, but instead to add compassion and common sense to it. The law was still considered valid, but it should be applied with some compassion and common sense. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Jesus did not even say that nobody should ever be stoned in the example of them wanting to stone the woman, he was saying to look inside yourself first and realize that often you are no better than the person you seek to condemn.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#193684 Oct 27, 2013
MAAT wrote:
Tax-declaration in America is in November.
In the Netherlands it's in April.
I keep forgetting that.
Um....I think it's the opposite.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#193685 Oct 27, 2013
MAAT wrote:
<quoted text>
One can only say what G-d is not, not what he is whithout forever expanding the definition.
That is correct, and that corresponds the the eastern concept of neti neti. There was one author who mused that an elephant has a better chance of fitting into the swimming trunks of a rat than God has of fitting into our descriptions for God. Scriptures themselves are meant to be a clue or pointer. One does not focus on the words themselves and nitpick on them, one focuses on the meaning behind them that they point to. Another saying, the sage points to the moon and all the idiot sees is the finger. That parallels to people who quibble over every exact word in a scripture while missing the deeper concepts they are supposed to point to. They are arguing about the finger because they haven't figured out that the finger is not supposed to be the focus, it is what it is pointing at that is supposed to be what one should be paying attention to.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#193686 Oct 27, 2013
@ MAAT

I would like to comment on Matthew 22, excluding the absurd parable of the wedding banquet and paying imperial tax to Caesar, etc.

Matthew 22:23-33

Marriage at the Resurrection

23 That same day the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to him with a question. 24 “Teacher,” they said,“Moses told us that if a man dies without having children, his brother must marry the widow and raise up offspring for him. 25 Now there were seven brothers among us. The first one married and died, and since he had no children, he left his wife to his brother. 26 The same thing happened to the second and third brother, right on down to the seventh. 27 Finally, the woman died. 28 Now then, at the resurrection, whose wife will she be of the seven, since all of them were married to her?”

29 Jesus replied,“You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. 31 But about the resurrection of the dead—have you not read what God said to you, 32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’[b]? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.”

33 When the crowds heard this, they were astonished at his teaching."

On that day of confrontation, Jesus knew that the Sadducees and the Pharisees were out to get him. He knew that it was a hypothetical and a tricky question.

He did not really answer their question and confused them.

The point is that resurrection has to result in humans coming back in their original form to exact details, not like angels. There is no suggestion of humans being resurrected as angles in Scriptures.

Even after his alleged resurrection, Jesus still came as a man of flesh and bones. Thomas touched him to make sure that he was not a ghost. And the saints, who were allegedly resurrected, walked into Jerusalem. They did not fly.

Will look forward to your esteemed comments.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#193687 Oct 27, 2013
MAAT wrote:
Shamma wrote: ps. 31:2
David so revered in christianity did nothing against these laws.
But David also knew how to apply common sense to them and did not obey them in order to abandon compassion.

2 But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.
3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;
4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?
5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?

10 And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.
11 And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?
12 How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#193688 Oct 27, 2013
No-Doubt wrote:
<quoted text>
Christian invaded arab countries in second world war
That was the first world war, and they were fighting against the Muslim Ottomans who were aligned with Germany. And the Muslim Ottomans invaded the Middle East 400 years before and kept the people of the Middle East in oppression and darkness. When the allied forces defeated the Ottomans in the Middle East, they had the help of the people of the Middle East themselves who wanted to be free of Ottoman oppression. Then, for the first time in over 400 years, they had sovereign countries of their own. They did not and could not have that under Ottoman oppression. You really need to read a history book or two. I don't know who keeps whispering the nonsense in your ear that you continually post here, but it is consistently wrong and inaccurate. You need to stop listening to people who keep lying to you and giving you wrong information.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#193689 Oct 27, 2013
El Cid wrote:
Here's the thing, MUSLIMS.
Why would "Allah" get things so wrong with the Jews and the Christians, and THEN get things right centuries later with that thieving, rape-enabling murderer from Arabia that you celebrate as the PERFECT HUMAN BEING?
It makes no sense at all to me, but then, I'm an INFIDEL who can't possibly comprehend the mysterious ways of "Allah." Right?
Allah has never accused the Jews of being Kafirs. As for Christians, Allah saw the fraudulent development of Trinity and took action to deny, refute and debunk it.

If you look at the time line of various Councils, you will know that the arrival of Muhammad nicely timed with the formalization of the crooked and ugly Trinity by generations of wicked men.

Same goes for the rescue of the Hebrews and others from Egypt. It took 400 years for the persecution to climax/peak and it was time to send in Moses.

It makes no sense to you because you are a Christian. No sense is required in Christianity. One is not allowed to think or use any sense. I can't help you on that.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#193690 Oct 27, 2013
bmz wrote:
@ MAAT
The point is that resurrection has to result in humans coming back in their original form to exact details, not like angels. There is no suggestion of humans being resurrected as angles in Scriptures.
That is not true at all.
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/12...
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#193691 Oct 27, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Allah has never accused the Jews of being Kafirs.
And that is not true either.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/a...

[4.160] Wherefore for the iniquity of those who are Jews did We disallow to them the good things which had been made lawful for them and for their hindering many (people) from Allah's way.

[5.13] But on account of their breaking their covenant We cursed them and made their hearts hard; they altered the words from their places and they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of; and you shall always discover treachery in them excepting a few of them; so pardon them and turn away; surely Allah loves those who do good (to others).

[5:57] O you who believe! do not take for guardians those who take your religion for a mockery and a joke, from among those who were given the Book before you and the unbelievers; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah if you are believers.

[5.59] Say: O followers of the Book! do you find fault with us (for aught) except that we believe in Allah and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed before, and that most of you are transgressors?

[5.60] Say: Shall I inform you of (him who is) worse than this in retribution from Allah?(Worse is he) whom Allah has cursed and brought His wrath upon, and of whom He made apes and swine, and he who served the Shaitan; these are worse in place and more erring from the straight path.

[5.64] And the Jews say: The hand of Allah is tied up! Their hands shall be shackled and they shall be cursed for what they say.

Many, many more examples found in the link.
El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#193692 Oct 27, 2013
bmz wrote:
The point is that resurrection has to result in humans coming back in their original form to exact details, not like angels. There is no suggestion of humans being resurrected as angles in Scriptures.
Even after his alleged resurrection, Jesus still came as a man of flesh and bones. Thomas touched him to make sure that he was not a ghost. And the saints, who were allegedly resurrected, walked into Jerusalem. They did not fly.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...

1 Corinthians 15:35-57

New International Version (NIV)
The Resurrection Body

35 But someone will ask,“How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come?” 36 How foolish! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. 37 When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else. 38 But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body. 39 Not all flesh is the same: People have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another. 40 There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another. 41 The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.

42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.

If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45 So it is written:“The first man Adam became a living being”[a]; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. 46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. 47 The first man was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven. 48 As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven. 49 And just as we have borne the image of the earthly man, so shall we[b] bear the image of the heavenly man.

50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54 When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true:“Death has been swallowed up in victory.”[c]

55 “Where, O death, is your victory?
Where, O death, is your sting?”[d]

56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Footnotes:

1 Corinthians 15:45 Gen. 2:7
1 Corinthians 15:49 Some early manuscripts so let us
1 Corinthians 15:54 Isaiah 25:8
1 Corinthians 15:55 Hosea 13:14
__________
Why did resurrected Jesus look just like pre-crucified Jesus when he appeared to his disciples? Umm, maybe it was so they would recognize him? Just a thought...
truth

Perth, Australia

#193693 Oct 27, 2013
it is written
-all angels and demons will fall

it is written
-not sit in first chair

Is that place for God?

It is written about cursing!

Why Abraham need blessing?

-from whom
El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#193694 Oct 27, 2013
bmz wrote:
Allah has never accused the Jews of being Kafirs.
Qur'an 4:44 "Have you not considered those to whom a portion of the Book has been given? They traffic in error and desire that you should go astray. But Allah has full knowledge of your enemies. Of the Jews there are those who displace words from their (right) places, saying,'We hear and we disobey' with a twist of their tongues they slander Faith.... Allah has cursed them for disbelief."

Qur'an 4:47 "O you People of the Book to whom the Scripture has been given, believe in what We have (now) revealed, confirming and verifying what was possessed by you, before We destroy your faces beyond all recognition, turning you on your backs, and curse you as We cursed the Sabbath-breakers, for the decision of Allah Must be executed."

Qur'an 4:160 "For the iniquity of the Jews We made unlawful for them certain (foods) in that they hindered many from Allah's Way, that they took usury, though they were forbidden, and that they devoured men's wealth on false pretenses, We have prepared for those among them who reject [Islamic] Faith a painful doom."

Qur'an 5:59 "Say:'People of the Book! Do you disapprove of us for no other reason than that we believe in Allah, and the revelation that has come to us and that which came before?' Say:'Shall I point out to you something much worse than this by the treatment it received from Allah? Those who incurred the curse of Allah and His wrath, those of whom He transformed into apes and swine."
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#193695 Oct 27, 2013
BMZ, I forgot about this.

5:82 (Y. Ali) Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are Christians": because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.
El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#193696 Oct 27, 2013
Seeker,

bmz will no doubt reply that Allah wasn't condemning ALL Jews as a class, but only certain Kafirs among them, most especially the ones who rejected/reject Mohammad as a false prophet, which would probably be ALMOST All of them.
__________
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafir

Kafir is a denigrating Arabic term used in an Islamic doctrinal sense, usually translated as "unbeliever," "disbeliever," or "infidel." The term refers to a person who rejects God in Islam or who hides, denies, or covers the "Islamic version of truth."

The Islamic version of truth? LOL!
truth

Perth, Australia

#193697 Oct 27, 2013
oh i win
zirafa=ci.fra=numbers

i see sbs news
all franjevci pray for me
our planet as frnja as child mar.able
truth

Perth, Australia

#193698 Oct 27, 2013
Did God speak in parable or mar.able?

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