Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256264 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#187789 Sep 7, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: and not even, all sunni side up.
Are eggs also shia and Sunni? I never knew that. May be in your Torah , I do not know for sure.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#187790 Sep 7, 2013
Ed Sed wrote:
It isn't a question of U.S. military engagements with members of the "religion of peace" in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and of what has been accomplished. The question is about that "prophet" of yours who ordered endless jihad (read: warfare) against "infidels" and "blasphemers" and "disbelievers" wherever and whenever they might be found.

Tabari IX:69 "Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us."

Tabari VIII:141 "The battle cry of the Companions of the Messenger of Allah that night was:'Kill! Kill! Kill!'"

Bukhari:V5B59N512 "The Prophet had their men killed, their woman and children taken captive."

Qur'an 2:191 "And kill them wherever you find and catch them. Drive them out from where they have turned you out; for Al-Fitnah (polytheism, disbelief, oppression) is worse than slaughter."

Qur'an 33:60 "Truly, if the Hypocrites stir up sedition, if the agitators in the City do not desist, We shall urge you to go against them and set you over them. Then they will not be able to stay as your neighbors for any length of time. They shall have a curse on them. Whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain without mercy - a fierce slaughter - murdered, a horrible murdering."
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Yes, your own authoritative records make the argument that your "prophet" was quite bloodthirsty, while you remain a willfully blind apologist for whom the end -strict monotheism, so-called- justifies the means, but I dare say that your religion ISN'T strict monotheism at all; it is rather a cult centered on the "perfect" man, Mohammad. Remove him, and the entire bloody farce collapses.
Ans.

Just like US is engaged in “endless wars” for part 200 years of its history, what is wrong if our prophet was engaged in “endless wars” with his enemies for last 10 years of his life.

And for past 12 years US and its allies are engaged in “endless wars” with their enemies in Iraq and Afghanistan…what is the “body count” on both side and what they have achieved?

In just 10 years of wars, our prophet was able to transform the entire country of Arabia from paganism and Idol Worship to strict monotheism and do you know what was the BODY COUNT on both side? It was not more than 1000!!

Can you beat it?

I think it is waste of time for me to provide answers to what “isolated verses from Quran you have quoted”.

You can prove any thing by just quoting verses from any scripture without context.

Want me to prove from Quotations from Gospel that Jesus wanted to Rule and Lord over the world and would not have minded how many of his enemies were brought and killed in front of him.?

PS:

01. I had selected your post to reply about Quranic verses quoted by you, but after seeing the general tone of your post in opening part of your message, I thought it would be a worthless exercise.

People like you are not in the market to learn something and use logic and reason.

02. Any way I am giving you a list of wars in which the “Young” country of US has been involved in past 200 years.

It does not look good if you accuse our prophet of being engaged in “endless wars”.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#187791 Sep 7, 2013
To: Becky

As per the list below, US forces may NEVER Come back to USA. I am sorry to say this, but in your country War is an industry and your country cannot exist without industry.

List of ugly USA wars since inception of for a pretty young nation only 300 plus years of history WARS, WARS, WARS - more Militaristic empire!(List does not include USA covert wars!!

18th Century
American Revolutionary War, 1775 &#8211; 1783
Boston campaign, 1775 - 1776
Canadian Theatre, 1775 - 1776
New York and New Jersey campaign, 1776 - 1777
Saratoga Campaign, 1777
Philadelphia Campaign, 1777 - 1778
Western Theatre, 1775 - 1782
Northern Theater, 1778 - 1781
Southern Theatre, 1775 - 1782
Northwest Indian War, 1785 - 1795
Quasi-War, France, 1798 &#8211; 1800
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19th Century
First Barbary War, 1801 &#8211; 1805
War of Sitka, 1804
War of 1812, 1812 &#8211; 1815
Tecumseh's War, 1811 - 1813
Lake Champlain Campaign, 1812 - 1814
Niagara Campaign, 1812 - 1814
Detroit Campaign, 1812 - 1814
Chesapeake Campaign, 1813 - 1814
Creek War, 1813 - 1814
Peoria War, 1813
Southern Campaign,
Second Barbary War, 1815
First Seminole War, 1817 - 1818
Winnebago War, 1827
Black Hawk War, 1832
First Sumatran Expedition, 1832
Battle of Quallah Battoo, 1832
Texas War, 1835 - 1836
Second Seminole War, 1835 - 1842
Second Sumatran Expedition, 1838
Bombardment of Quallah Battoo, 1838
Missouri Mormon War, 1838
Bombardment of Muckie, 1838
Aroostook War, 1838-1839
Dorr War, 1841-1842
Milwaukee Bridge War1845
Mexican-American War, 1846 &#8211; 1848
Texas Campaign, 1846
Bear Flag Revolt, California, 1846
Arizona Campaign, 1846
Mexican Campaign, 1846 - 1848
Navajo Wars, 1846 - 1863
Cayuse War, 1847 - 1855
Apache Wars, 1851 - 1900
Nicaraguan Expedition, 1854
Bombardment of San Juan del Norte, 1854
Kansas War, 1854 - 1860
Raid on Harpers Ferry, 1859
Third Seminole War, 1855 - 1858
Second Opium War, 1856 - 1859 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Battle of the Pearl River Forts, 1856
Second Battle of Taku Forts, 1859
Utah War, 1857
Pig War, 1859
American Civil War, 1861 &#8211; 1865
Union blockade, 1861 - 1865
Eastern Theater, 1861 - 1865
Western Theater, 1861 - 1865
Lower Seaboard Theater, 1861 - 1865
Trans-Mississippi Theater, 1861 - 1865
Dakota War, 1862
Pacific Coast Theater, 1863
Sand Creek War, 1864
Comanche War, 1867 - 1875
Colorado War, 1863 - 1865
Japanese Conflict, 1863 - 1864 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Battle of Shimonoseki Straits, 1863
Shimonoseki Campaign, 1863 - 1864
Formosan Expedition, 1867
Battle of Formosa, 1867
Red Cloud's War, 1866 - 1868
United States expedition to Korea, 1866 - 1871 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Battle of Keupsa Gate, 1866
Battle of Gangwha, 1871
Modoc War, 1872 - 1873
Red River War, 1874 - 1875
Black Hills War, 1876 - 1877
Nez Perce War, 1877
Bannock War, 1878
Cheyenne War, 1878 - 1879
Sheepeater Indian War, 1879
Ute War, 1879-1880
Ghost Dance War, 1890 - 1891
Pine Ridge Campaign, 1890-1891
Battle of Sugar Point, 1898
Spanish-American War, 1898
Cuban Campaign, 1898
Puerto Rican Campaign, 1898
Pacific Campaign, 1898
Second Samoan Civil War, 1899 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Philippine-American War, 1899 - 1913
Battle of Manila (1899), 1899
Moro Rebellion, 1899 - 1913
Boxer Rebellion, China, 1899 - 1901
Peking Campaign, 1900 (Contd.)

MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#187792 Sep 7, 2013
Spanish-American War, 1898
Cuban Campaign, 1898
Puerto Rican Campaign, 1898
Pacific Campaign, 1898
Second Samoan Civil War, 1899 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Philippine-American War, 1899 - 1913
Battle of Manila (1899), 1899
Moro Rebellion, 1899 - 1913
Boxer Rebellion, China, 1899 - 1901
Peking Campaign, 1900

20th Century

Banana Wars, 1907 – 1934

Nicaraguan Conflict, 1907 - 1933 (time span of U.S. involvement)

Honduras Conflict, 1907 - 1933 (time span of U.S. involvement)

Guatemalan Conflict, 1907 - 1933 (time span of U.S. involvement)

First Panama Conflict, 1908 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Cuban Conflict, 1912 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Haiti Conflict, 1915 - 1934 (time span of U.S. involvement)
First Dominican Republic Conflict, 1917 - 1924 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Mexican Revolution, 1914 - 1918 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Battle of Veracruz, 1914
Battle of Columbus, 1916
Battle of Carrizal, 1916
Battle of Bear Valley, 1918
Battle of Ambos Nogales, 1918
World War I, 1917 &#8211; 1918 (time span of U.S. involvement)
European Theatre, 1917 - 1918
First Battle of the Atlantic, 1917-1918
Russian Revolution, 1918 - 1920 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Polar Bear Expedition, 1918 - 1919
Siberian Expedition, 1918 - 1920
World War II, 1941 &#8211; 1945 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Second Battle of the Atlantic, 1941 - 1945
Pacific War, 1941 - 1945
African Theatre, 1942 - 1943
European Theatre, 1942 - 1945
Korean War, 1950 - 1953
South Korean Campaign, 1950 - 1953
North Korean Campaign, 1950 - 1953
1958 Lebanon crisis, 1958 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Operation Blue Bat, 1958
Cuban Missile Crisis, 1961 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Bay of Pigs Invasion, 1961
Vietnam War, 1962 - 1975 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Laotian Civil War, 1962 - 1973
Cambodian Civil War, 1969 - 1970
Second Dominican Republic Conflict, 1965 - 1966
Operation Powerpack, 1965 - 1966
Second Korean War, 1966 - 1976
Contra War, El Salvador, 1981 - 1990
Libya Conflict, 1981 - 1989 (time span of U.S. involvement)
First Action in the Gulf of Sidra, 1981
Second Action in the Gulf of Sidra, 1986
1986 bombing of Libya, 1986
Third Action in the Gulf of Sidra, 1989
Grenada Conflict, 1983 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Operation Urgent Fury, 1983
Iran&#8211;Iraq War, 1987 - 1989 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Operation Earnest Will, 1987 - 1988
Operation Prime Chance, 1987 - 1989
Operation Eager Glacier, 1987
Operation Nimble Archer, 1987
Operation Praying Mantis, 1988
Second Panama Conflict, 1989 - 1990 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Operation Just Cause, 1989 - 1990
Persian Gulf War, Iraq, 1991 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Operation Desert Shield, 1991
Operation Desert Storm, 1991
Iraq Conflict, 1991 - 2003 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Operation Provide Comfort, 1991 - 1996
Operation Northern Watch, 1997 - 2003
Operation Southern Watch, 1992 - 2003
Operation Desert Fox, 1998
Operation Southern Focus, 2002 - 2003
Somali Civil War, 1992 - 1994 (time span of U.S. involvement)
On Somalia II, 1993 - 1995
First Haitian Rebellion, 1994 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Operation Uphold Democracy, 1994 - 1995
Yugoslav wars, 1994 - 1999 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Bosnian Conflict, 1994 - 1995
Kosovo Conflict, 1997 - 1999

AND 21 st century you know about it already
MIDDLE EAST WARS

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/TD8PHDO0NN50... (Comment # 677)
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#187793 Sep 7, 2013
@ MUQ

Thanks for the long list of American wars and battles. Looks like the country does not want to see peace established in the world.

After going through the long list, I have a question:

Who says America is tired and weary of wars?

War has mostly been an engine of growth for the US economy. It is a tool used whenever the American economy is not doing well and the American Regime faces lots of problems at home.

Salaams
BMZ
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#187794 Sep 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Since it is a huge claim, it must be found in the NT and thank God, this abomination is not present in the Bible.
I think that praying exactly five times per day should be in the Quran as well. I also think the Quran should clearly state that every part of it is the word for word dictation of God. I think those two things are pretty important.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#187795 Sep 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
I have said that the OT is a forgery and that means the verses have been forged, where necessary to show Jesus, when there is nothing about Jesus in there.
You tried that with Isaiah 9:6 and it failed. What are your other examples?

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#187796 Sep 7, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Spanish-American War, 1898
Cuban Campaign, 1898
Puerto Rican Campaign, 1898
Pacific Campaign, 1898
Second Samoan Civil War, 1899 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Philippine-American War, 1899 - 1913
Battle of Manila (1899), 1899
Moro Rebellion, 1899 - 1913
Boxer Rebellion, China, 1899 - 1901
Peking Campaign, 1900
20th Century
Banana Wars, 1907 – 1934
Nicaraguan Conflict, 1907 - 1933 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Honduras Conflict, 1907 - 1933 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Guatemalan Conflict, 1907 - 1933 (time span of U.S. involvement)
First Panama Conflict, 1908 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Cuban Conflict, 1912 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Haiti Conflict, 1915 - 1934 (time span of U.S. involvement)
First Dominican Republic Conflict, 1917 - 1924 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Mexican Revolution, 1914 - 1918 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Battle of Veracruz, 1914
Battle of Columbus, 1916
Battle of Carrizal, 1916
Battle of Bear Valley, 1918
Battle of Ambos Nogales, 1918
World War I, 1917 &#8211; 1918 (time span of U.S. involvement)
European Theatre, 1917 - 1918
First Battle of the Atlantic, 1917-1918
Russian Revolution, 1918 - 1920 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Polar Bear Expedition, 1918 - 1919
Siberian Expedition, 1918 - 1920
World War II, 1941 &#8211; 1945 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Second Battle of the Atlantic, 1941 - 1945
Pacific War, 1941 - 1945
African Theatre, 1942 - 1943
European Theatre, 1942 - 1945
Korean War, 1950 - 1953
South Korean Campaign, 1950 - 1953
North Korean Campaign, 1950 - 1953
1958 Lebanon crisis, 1958 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Operation Blue Bat, 1958
Cuban Missile Crisis, 1961 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Bay of Pigs Invasion, 1961
Vietnam War, 1962 - 1975 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Laotian Civil War, 1962 - 1973
Cambodian Civil War, 1969 - 1970
Second Dominican Republic Conflict, 1965 - 1966
Operation Powerpack, 1965 - 1966
Second Korean War, 1966 - 1976
Contra War, El Salvador, 1981 - 1990
Libya Conflict, 1981 - 1989 (time span of U.S. involvement)
First Action in the Gulf of Sidra, 1981
Second Action in the Gulf of Sidra, 1986
1986 bombing of Libya, 1986
Third Action in the Gulf of Sidra, 1989
Grenada Conflict, 1983 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Operation Urgent Fury, 1983
Iran&#8211;Iraq War, 1987 - 1989 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Operation Earnest Will, 1987 - 1988
Operation Prime Chance, 1987 - 1989
Operation Eager Glacier, 1987
Operation Nimble Archer, 1987
Operation Praying Mantis, 1988
Second Panama Conflict, 1989 - 1990 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Operation Just Cause, 1989 - 1990
Persian Gulf War, Iraq, 1991 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Operation Desert Shield, 1991
Operation Desert Storm, 1991
Iraq Conflict, 1991 - 2003 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Operation Provide Comfort, 1991 - 1996
Operation Northern Watch, 1997 - 2003
Operation Southern Watch, 1992 - 2003
Operation Desert Fox, 1998
Operation Southern Focus, 2002 - 2003
Somali Civil War, 1992 - 1994 (time span of U.S. involvement)
On Somalia II, 1993 - 1995
First Haitian Rebellion, 1994 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Operation Uphold Democracy, 1994 - 1995
Yugoslav wars, 1994 - 1999 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Bosnian Conflict, 1994 - 1995
Kosovo Conflict, 1997 - 1999
AND 21 st century you know about it already
MIDDLE EAST WARS
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/TD8PHDO0NN50... (Comment # 677)
That is an impressive list,
Yet the only countries that the U.S.A. is actively at war with is the Muslims countries that want to over throw America.

The list that Muslims are actively in involved in killing people is too large to list.

Seeker

Lowell, MA

#187797 Sep 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Neither Qur'aan nor Muhammad said that Mary was part of Trinity.
We had this discussion and you did nothing but tap dance around it and failed miserably. It was so bad that you actually tried to say that 5:116 wasn't discussing the Trinity because it is talking about a future event, and I explained in detail how it doesn't matter whether it was talking about a future event or not, it says that Allah will ask Jesus whether he told them to take him and Mary as TWO Gods BESIDES Allah, which means it is saying that Christians did and do believe that, which is exactly wrong. You do this all of the time. You fail in a discussion, you stop answering the discussion, and then you come back weeks later and act as though the discussion never even happened. It doesn't have to say the actual word trinity in 5:115 nor in 5:73-75, in BOTH cases it is talking about EXACTLY two Gods besides Allah. And 2+1 equals three. And Trinity means three in one.

Then, to make things worse, you deny it says that and then try to argue that Christians DID take Mary as part of the Trinity. Why would you argue that Christians did take her as part of the Trinity unless you were defending the Quran's claim that they did while also denying the Quran makes this claim? So you contradict yourself in a typical cross eyed fashion.

As usual, you simply make no sense at all and it's nothing but a twisted tap dance. It's really like someone who pulls any crap out of their pocket that they can find and throws it against the wall in hopes that some it it sticks, and you don't even care which parts sticks or whether it's true or not, just as long as it sticks.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#187798 Sep 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not my job to produce the 'unforged' version of the OT and the NT. Even the Vatican or the Church does not have any original of anything.
I only bring up the forgeries in the NT and the OT and present the dung, Buford.
How come the Dead Sea scrolls match what the Jews have always had and have today? Why didn't they find the "real" thing?
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#187799 Sep 7, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not the question of liking or disliking the result, it is the method one uses.
if you keep on repeating and abusing him and his personal character, there will never be any result.
We have eyewitness reports (in hundreds and thousands) about his noble and peaceful nature, his sincere and truthful character, his mercy and his charity and the rules he brought.
If you ignore all that and keep on repeating like a "broken record" based on "Imperfect bits and pieces of info gathered from here and there"...there will never be any agreement.
I quote historical sources. Why is anything that does not paint him in the light you wish to see him in, a broken source, and anything that paints him the way you want him to be painted, a non broken source?
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
And it is not "Your acceptance" I am looking in this discussion.
You keep mentioning about us being able to agree. What is the difference between agreement and acceptance. Again, you seem to have no idea of what even you yourself are saying.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Just to show you Biblical verses that point to the advent of our prophet.
Oh, I get it, so if you want them to be about Muhammad, all you have to do is to present your far stretched ideas and everybody is supposed to simply accept it and if they don't, it couldn't be that you are wrong, it must be that they are biased. Amazing.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
And most of these verses were not fulfilled by Jesus.
You know what? We weren't even supposed to be talking about Jesus, but you keep diverting the conversation into Jesus. Even if you could prove that Jesus was not prophecized in the Bible, what does that do to prove Muhammad was?? Can't you see how twisted your logic is? And you even said that you think that there are many places where Jesus was prophecized and yet you refuse to mention even one of these.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
So either you try to prove that they refer to jesus, or bring another candidate or say that we are still waiting for such a person to appear.
Well, as far as a Kingdom and as far as establishing justice, neither Jesus nor Muhammad have done that yet. So either it will be Jesus doing that on his return, as he said he would, or it will have to be a new prophet as the Jews think. But either way, Muhammad is not returning so it can't be him. He is disqualified.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I will proceed to place the next OT prophesy on this thread. Inshallah
You can do anything you want, but I'm not going to answer it anymore. You are a complete waste of my time and I am sick of you dictating how the conversation will be conducted and in what order it will be conducted. I've been unusually fair to allow you to do this, but no more.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#187800 Sep 7, 2013
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
I think that praying exactly five times per day should be in the Quran as well. I also think the Quran should clearly state that every part of it is the word for word dictation of God. I think those two things are pretty important.
Yes, praying five times has been covered in Qur'aan.

The point is that Trinity and the various doctrines of the Church have nothing to do with Jesus at all.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#187801 Sep 7, 2013
And MUQ, here is the funniest part, You desperately need Muhammad to be prophecized in a book that you are supposed to think is corrupted and not to be trusted. So your logic fails right from the very beginning. You aren't even supposed to care about anything the OT says. So you throw it in the trashcan and then pull it back out again, only if and when you think it will suit your needs. And it STILL doesn't suit your needs. You might as well leave it in the trashcan where you are told to leave it. I can never seem to get any consistency in the logic of Muslims. It's like they don't even know what the word consistency even means. They change the rules as they see fit when they see fit and change them back again when they see fit. Hasn't anybody ever told you the logical fallacy of such self serving behavior?
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#187802 Sep 7, 2013
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
You tried that with Isaiah 9:6 and it failed. What are your other examples?
Not really. I showed that Isaiah in the OT was a forged translation.

Won't you consider "Kiss the Son" in Psalms 2 of OT, a forgery?
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#187803 Sep 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, praying five times has been covered in Qur'aan.
Where was that said? We have already been through this and you couldn't make it add up to exactly five. And as you always do, you stop participating in the conversation and pretend it never happened and a few weeks later you make the same claim as though the conversation never happened or as though you answered the problem sufficiently when you never did any such thing. You do things like this all of the time.
El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#187804 Sep 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not my job to produce the 'unforged' version of the OT and the NT. Even the Vatican or the Church does not have any original of anything.
I only bring up the forgeries in the NT and the OT and present the dung, Buford.
What a stupid argument!
El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#187805 Sep 7, 2013
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
How come the Dead Sea scrolls match what the Jews have always had and have today? Why didn't they find the "real" thing?
Obviously, the Dead Sea scrolls are forgeries.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#187806 Sep 7, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Are eggs also shia and Sunni? I never knew that. May be in your Torah , I do not know for sure.
rabbee: well they, are considered as kosher. and they, can be very eggciting.

you can fry them, boil them, bake them, scramble them, with some people even eating them raw. and can be used, as an ingredient, in all kinds of other food.

but they can also be, a source of salmonella cholera. ususlly as a result of, external contaminate on the egg, and to a lesser degree internally.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#187807 Sep 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Not really. I showed that Isaiah in the OT was a forged translation.
But we discussed that and you DIDN'T end up showing that and your idea was full of holes and misunderstandings and I specifically pointed these out to you and you stopped participating rather than refuting my refuttals and then you come back a few weeks later as though you proved your point when you never did any such thing. You did this with 69:16, 5:73-75, 5:116, the Quran specifically mentioning praying five times per day, and many other issues. You consistently pull the same stunt and I have no idea how your mind tells itself that this is ok. I can't understand how you think for the life of me. It just makes no sense at all.
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Won't you consider "Kiss the Son" in Psalms 2 of OT, a forgery?
Maybe, maybe not. There are well explained reasons for this here where there is even disagreement on the meaning among Jews themselves.
http://www.truthnet.org/TheMessia/12_Messiah_...

But we both know that you don't even want to read this, so I have no idea why I bothered to link it. I know how you think.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#187808 Sep 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
@ MUQ
Thanks for the long list of American wars and battles. Looks like the country does not want to see peace established in the world.
After going through the long list, I have a question:
Who says America is tired and weary of wars?
War has mostly been an engine of growth for the US economy. It is a tool used whenever the American economy is not doing well and the American Regime faces lots of problems at home.
Salaams
BMZ
rabbee: don't believe that is the reason, that any of those wars were fought. were generally fought, on the excuse of some injustice or threatened american interests. but that still is not the real reason, G-D manipulated us into them. since the united states, has the same basic problem as the rest of the world. disbelief of The-Right G-D.

if only there was such a thing, as an only true religion, church or synagogue actually true to G-D. but there isn't even, one today.

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