Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256288 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#186262 Aug 22, 2013
Bryant wrote:
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Mercy, but you are without knowledge.
So the author of the Qur'an thinks Christians believe Part one is God and part two is Jesus and part three is the Virgin Mary.
No wonder you are so confused.
No!

Let me remove your massive confusion.

Qur'aan does not describe Trinity. It simply refutes and condemns it. It tells Christians not to even utter that word.

Qur'aan does NOT SAY that Trinity is made up of God, Jesus and Mary.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#186263 Aug 22, 2013
Definitions of Trinity, according to Christians, extracted from heaps of Christian info:

"The Trinity expresses the belief that God is one Being made up of three distinct Persons who exist in co-equal essence and co-eternal communion as the Father, Son and Holy Spirit."

"The Bible teaches that the Father is God, that Jesus is God, and that the Holy Spirit is God."

The Bible also teaches that there is only one God.

The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another.

God the Son is distinguished from God the Father. This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit.

Each member of the Trinity is God. The Father is God The Son is God The Holy Spirit is God.

Holy Trinity. the union of three persons (Father, Son, and Holy Ghost) in one Godhead, or the threefold personality of the one Divine Being.

I need Aspirin.
Bryant

Windsor, CT

#186264 Aug 22, 2013
bmz wrote:
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We were talking talking about the account of the Serpent, Adam and Eve.
I do not wish to discuss two different creation accounts of Genesis.
What? Maybe you should drink some more tea before replying. LOL
Bryant

Windsor, CT

#186265 Aug 22, 2013
bmz wrote:
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That is something else. That is why brother Jesus said that one has to be pure and innocent as children in order to enter the Paradise.
This also confirms that children are not born-sinners and the lie that sin gets passed on gets debunked by Jesus' statement.
Thanks, Bryant
Children are not born sinners, but they are all born with the propensity to sin.

What do you mean by "sin gets passed on"? Just exactly what do you think the concept of "original sin" is?
Bryant

Windsor, CT

#186266 Aug 22, 2013
bmz wrote:
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You know well that your God is not the God of Moses and you know well that the God of Moses is the God of Jesus.[/quote]

My God is YHWH and He is the God of Moses. He is also the God revealed to us by God's Messiah, Jesus.

[QUOTE who="bmz"]<quoted text>

And when WE tell you that WE believe in the God of Noah, Abraham, Ishmael, Issac, Jacob, Esau, Joseph, Moses, Job, Jonah, David, Solomon and others, who are you to tell us that we believe in some other God? By what authority, do you do that?[/quote]

I believe you believe you are worshipping the same God, but I do not believe you are.

BTW: Who are you and what gives you the right to tell Christians we do not believe in YHWH?

[QUOTE who="bmz"]<quoted text>

And WE also tell you openly that we do NOT believe in the triune God of Christianity.[/quote]

You mean you don't believe God's Word (He created by His Word) is not God? That God's Holy Spirit is not God?

[QUOTE who="bmz"]<quoted text>

The Jews do not call their God by letters or alphabets. I have never heard any of my close Jewish friends ever uttering YHWH or YHVH or Jehovah or Yahweh. It is either HaShem or Adonai or Elohim.
Do you not know that HaShem (the name) stands for YWHW?

The most important of God's Names is the four-letter Name represented by the Hebrew letters Yod-Hei-Vav-Hei (YHVH). It is often referred to as the Ineffable Name, the Unutterable Name or the Distinctive Name. Linguistically, it is related to the Hebrew root Hei-Yod-Hei (to be), and reflects the fact that God's existence is eternal. In scripture, this Name is used when discussing God's relation with human beings, and when emphasizing his qualities of lovingkindness and mercy. It is frequently shortened to Yah (Yod-Hei), Yahu or Yeho (Yod-Hei-Vav), especially when used in combination with names or phrases, as in Yehoshua (Joshua, meaning "the Lord is my Salvation"), Eliyahu (Elijah, meaning "my God is the Lord"), and Halleluyah ("praise the Lord").

Judaism 101
Bryant

Windsor, CT

#186267 Aug 22, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
No!
Let me remove your massive confusion.
Qur'aan does not describe Trinity. It simply refutes and condemns it. It tells Christians not to even utter that word.
Qur'aan does NOT SAY that Trinity is made up of God, Jesus and Mary.
Actually, the Qur'an says "don't say three?" Three what? Three God's? We do't say three Gods, we say one God.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#186268 Aug 22, 2013
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>Adam was NOT the serpent, according to the very record that you quote. In short, you are insane.
The serpent was a part of Adams' anatomy and what they did was a sexual act. Afterwards, they knew they were naked. The curse on the serpent was the same as the curse on Adam. Eves' "desire" would be to her husband and this was in part, a sexual desire. Sex is called "knowledge". If the fruit was literally an apple, there would be a commandment prohibiting it. There is a commandment against sodomy. The story is allegorical.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#186269 Aug 22, 2013
Bryant wrote:
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Actually, the Qur'an says "don't say three?" Three what? Three God's? We do't say three Gods, we say one God.
It refers to the three of the Trinity. There are three in the trinity. Right?

Thalatha in Qur'aan's Arabic also means Trinity. In modern Arabic it Thaleeth.

Thalatha is pronounced as Salasa (Not Salsa) and Thaleeth is pronounced as Salees.

What you say is actually one Godhead.

To you, the Father is God, the Son is God and the Holy spirit is God. And these three do not make up one God. They make up a Godhead.

You say one God but that is not correct. You have three Gods that form a Godhead. So, you believe in a Godhead of three distinct and co-equal Gods.

It would be something different if you said that there is only one God, who behaves like a father, for sometime behaved like a son and sometimes becomes a ghost.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#186270 Aug 22, 2013
Bryant wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you not know that HaShem (the name) stands for YWHW?

The most important of God's Names is the four-letter Name represented by the Hebrew letters Yod-Hei-Vav-Hei (YHVH). It is often referred to as the Ineffable Name, the Unutterable Name or the Distinctive Name. Linguistically, it is related to the Hebrew root Hei-Yod-Hei (to be), and reflects the fact that God's existence is eternal. In scripture, this Name is used when discussing God's relation with human beings, and when emphasizing his qualities of lovingkindness and mercy. It is frequently shortened to Yah (Yod-Hei), Yahu or Yeho (Yod-Hei-Vav), especially when used in combination with names or phrases, as in Yehoshua (Joshua, meaning "the Lord is my Salvation"), Eliyahu (Elijah, meaning "my God is the Lord"), and Halleluyah ("praise the Lord").
Judaism 101
To me, YHWH or YHVH or Yahweh is no name.

Since: May 12

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#186271 Aug 22, 2013
bmz wrote:
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To me, YHWH or YHVH or Yahweh is no name.
Thanks for your personal opinion.
dahIvid

Minneapolis, MN

#186272 Aug 22, 2013
Bryant wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you not know that HaShem (the name) stands for YWHW?
The most important of God's Names is the four-letter Name represented by the Hebrew letters Yod-Hei-Vav-Hei (YHVH). It is often referred to as the Ineffable Name, the Unutterable Name or the Distinctive Name. Linguistically, it is related to the Hebrew root Hei-Yod-Hei (to be), and reflects the fact that God's existence is eternal. In scripture, this Name is used when discussing God's relation with human beings, and when emphasizing his qualities of lovingkindness and mercy. It is frequently shortened to Yah (Yod-Hei), Yahu or Yeho (Yod-Hei-Vav), especially when used in combination with names or phrases, as in Yehoshua (Joshua, meaning "the Lord is my Salvation"), Eliyahu (Elijah, meaning "my God is the Lord"), and Halleluyah ("praise the Lord").
Judaism 101
The books excluded are all the stories you find in the koran that you dont find in the old and new testaments.

Y A H W
is not the most important name. there is no name of god in lisan shem. yahw is a prifix , have you everheard an arab or a muslim say " aiwa" to mean yes. now since the name of god is in the vowel arangements when you say "ye ahwo" or " ye ahwai" you are saying my lord, of mine . thats all . god dont have a name ,can u imagine if god had a name that would be weird , would you be comfurtable calling him steve, lol
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#186273 Aug 22, 2013
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, you're right. Adam in essence blamed God for giving him Eve, as though he was not free to resist her enticements, but the thing is, how could he have known that what she was about was evil, since he had not yet partaken of the fruit that confers knowledge of the difference between good and evil? IOW, God REALLY was to blame for setting both Adam and Eve up for a fall, because God ALLOWED the serpent to have access to them.
God created the serpent and it was a necessary evil in the creation of man. Isaiah 45:7 "...I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things". God is ultimately responsible for what he created. Life is symmetrical and everything has its opposite. If there was good, there also has to be evil. The serpent is not intrinsically evil, if it were, all men would be evil. It is a symbol of power and has historically bee used for evil.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#186274 Aug 22, 2013
Bryant wrote:
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How old are you Susan?
I am soon to be 52, a baby boomer. In the bible, we are called "the generation of the righteous" Psalm 14:5.
Bryant

Windsor, CT

#186275 Aug 22, 2013
bmz wrote:
Definitions of Trinity, according to Christians, extracted from heaps of Christian info:
"The Trinity expresses the belief that God is one Being made up of three distinct Persons who exist in co-equal essence and co-eternal communion as the Father, Son and Holy Spirit."
"The Bible teaches that the Father is God, that Jesus is God, and that the Holy Spirit is God."
The Bible also teaches that there is only one God.
The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another.
God the Son is distinguished from God the Father. This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit.
Each member of the Trinity is God. The Father is God The Son is God The Holy Spirit is God.
Holy Trinity. the union of three persons (Father, Son, and Holy Ghost) in one Godhead, or the threefold personality of the one Divine Being.
I need Aspirin.
You don't need aspirin; you need an education.

Notice God is one Being; not two Beings and not three Beings.

Notice the Trinity teaches that there is one God.

I think most people get hung up on the word “persons” which sounds like they are three people; not so. A better word would be “substance” or “essence” or "hypostasis." IOW’s God’s Word and God’s Spirit are all the same essence – divine. How could God’s Word and God’s Spirit since they come from God be anything but divine, since God is divine?

I think your explanation “that Jesus is God” needs some tweaking.

Jesus of Nazareth as a man is not God. That is why I asked you if God was born. I was trying to get you to think.

The human creature Jesus of Nazareth is not the Divine Creator YHWH (just as the Divine Creator YHWH is not the human creature Jesus of Nazareth) but, since the Incarnation and the Virgin Birth, the Person of the Son now simultaneously exists as both Divine Creator YHWH and human creature Jesus of Nazareth.

Frankly the idea that the Divine Creator and the human creature are synonymous, such that there is now no distinction between what it means to exist as the Divine Creator and what it means to exist as a human creature, i.e. that God and Jesus are one and the same(?!), is just facile in the extreme and reveals a total lack of thought on the part of those who hold to such a view.

Look at you, BMZ. Your word is you and your spirit is you, not 3 BMZ's but only one.
Bryant

Windsor, CT

#186276 Aug 22, 2013
bmz wrote:
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To me, YHWH or YHVH or Yahweh is no name.
God does not have a name, neither does He need one.

Ehyeh asher ehyeh (Hebrew: &#1488;&#1492;&#14 97;&#1492; &#1488;&#1513;&#15 12; &#1488;&#1492;&#14 97;&#1492;) is the first of three responses given to Moses when he asks for God's name (Exodus 3:14).

Ehyeh is the first-person singular imperfect form of hayah, "to be". Ehyeh is usually translated "I will be", since the imperfect tense in Hebrew denotes actions that are not yet completed (e.g. Exodus 3:12, "Certainly I will be [ehyeh] with thee.").[3] Asher is an ambiguous pronoun which can mean, depending on context, "that", "who", "which", or "where".[3]

Although Ehyeh asher ehyeh is generally rendered in English "I am that I am", better renderings might be "I will be what I will be" or "I will be who I will be", or "I shall prove to be whatsoever I shall prove to be" or even "I will be because I will be".[4] Other renderings include: Leeser,“I WILL BE THAT I WILL BE”; Rotherham, "I Will Become whatsoever I please." Greek, Ego eimi ho on (&#7952;&#947;&#97 4; &#949;&#7984;&#956 ;&#953; &#8001; &#8036;&#957;), "I am The Being" in the Septuagint,[5] and Philo,[6][7] and Revelation[8] or, "I am The Existing One"; Lat., ego sum qui sum, "I am Who I am."[9]

wikipedia.
Bryant

Windsor, CT

#186277 Aug 22, 2013
dahIvid wrote:
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The books excluded are all the stories you find in the koran that you dont find in the old and new testaments.
Kind of self-serving, isn't it?

Why did the author of the Qur'an leave out accounts in the Bible from the Qur'an?
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#186278 Aug 22, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
Thanks for your personal opinion.
You, are welcome.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#186279 Aug 22, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>I am soon to be 52, a baby boomer. In the bible, we are called "the generation of the righteous" Psalm 14:5.
Happy Birthday in advance, Susan. Love your writing style.

It is sooooooo good to see you educating Christians.
dahIvid

Minneapolis, MN

#186280 Aug 22, 2013
Bryant wrote:
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Kind of self-serving, isn't it?
Why did the author of the Qur'an leave out accounts in the Bible from the Qur'an?
well my friend , first , there is no such a thing as a bible . jesus did not write a bible, because he came not to change the old but to confirm it. there are letters of paul and john etc, plus the oldtestaments and thats called the bible . so the question why the koran leave out stories from the bible dont make sense. because there is no bible . the koran is concerned with the original the unedited raw book of god . the one written in lisan shem, the one they always understood , that is the issue for the koran or islam here .

fun stuf . lol
if the languages of shem, arabic , heberew, aramaic, akadian , all the dailect are called sister languages, then all of this languagez used to be one . and if the good book was written when it used to be one , then all the version of the good book that were rewritten in the new sister and dialect languages are all wrong , a perfect opertunity or reason for a muslim to say wait a minute , something is wrong here , and thats exactly what islam or the ancients were saying .
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#186281 Aug 22, 2013
Bryant wrote:
<quoted text>
God does not have a name, neither does He need one.
Ehyeh asher ehyeh (Hebrew: &#1488;&#1492;&#14 97;&#1492; &#1488;&#1513;&#15 12; &#1488;&#1492;&#14 97;&#1492;) is the first of three responses given to Moses when he asks for God's name (Exodus 3:14).
Ehyeh is the first-person singular imperfect form of hayah, "to be". Ehyeh is usually translated "I will be", since the imperfect tense in Hebrew denotes actions that are not yet completed (e.g. Exodus 3:12, "Certainly I will be [ehyeh] with thee.").[3] Asher is an ambiguous pronoun which can mean, depending on context, "that", "who", "which", or "where".[3]
Although Ehyeh asher ehyeh is generally rendered in English "I am that I am", better renderings might be "I will be what I will be" or "I will be who I will be", or "I shall prove to be whatsoever I shall prove to be" or even "I will be because I will be".[4] Other renderings include: Leeser,“I WILL BE THAT I WILL BE”; Rotherham, "I Will Become whatsoever I please." Greek, Ego eimi ho on (&#7952;&#947;&#97 4; &#949;&#7984;&#956 ;&#953; &#8001; &#8036;&#957;), "I am The Being" in the Septuagint,[5] and Philo,[6][7] and Revelation[8] or, "I am The Existing One"; Lat., ego sum qui sum, "I am Who I am."[9]
wikipedia.
I have studied all that, Bryant and I am bored of the stuff.

When Moses asked God for a name, God gave him none, because God is not the son of a man to have a name.

Instead, God said, "I am that I am". It was a statement showing displeasure and irritation.

It simply means "I am that I am and I will always be what I am" or to make it simpler, "I will always be what I am".

Moses did not tell his people, "Hey folks, I am that I am has sent me".

If Uhuh reads your post, he will give you a good one.

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