Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256357 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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#184151 Aug 3, 2013
INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE RESEARCH VEDAS PROVED VALMIKI RAMAYAN AS AUTHENTIC HOLY BOOK. WITH THE HELP OF NASA. SOFTWARE. SCIENTISTS DECLARED BHAGWAN RAMS BIRTH DATE AS 10 JANUARY 5114 B.C. SAME DATE WHICH IS MENTIONED IN VALMIKI RAMAYAN.BHAGWAN RAM LEFT FOR BANVAS AT THE AGE OF 25 YEARS ACCORDING TO VALMIKI RAMAYAN, SCIENTISTS CONFIRM THE AGE AS 25 YEARS.

ALSO 250 PLACES FROM AYODHYA TO RAMESHWARAM SCIENTISTS FOUND SAME MARKS INDICATED IN VALMIKI RAMAYAN.

THIS SHOWS THAT WHATEVER MENTIONED IN OUR HOLY VEDAS ARE FACT.
WE HINDU SHOULD BE PROUD THAT WE ARE BORN AS HINDU AND NOW WE SHOULD WALK ON THE SAME PATH IN WHICH BHAGWAN RAM & BHAGWAN KRISHNA USE TO

I REQUEST ALL MUSLIMS OF WORLD COME BACK TO YOUR SANATAN DHARAM IN WHICH YOUR ANCESTORS WERE BORN.

JAI SHRI RAM. JAI SHRI KRISHNA.Har Har Mahadev.

REFERENCE BY ZEE NEWS.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#184152 Aug 3, 2013
nek insaan wrote:
INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE RESEARCH VEDAS PROVED VALMIKI RAMAYAN AS AUTHENTIC HOLY BOOK. WITH THE HELP OF NASA. SOFTWARE. SCIENTISTS DECLARED BHAGWAN RAMS BIRTH DATE AS 10 JANUARY 5114 B.C. SAME DATE WHICH IS MENTIONED IN VALMIKI RAMAYAN.BHAGWAN RAM LEFT FOR BANVAS AT THE AGE OF 25 YEARS ACCORDING TO VALMIKI RAMAYAN, SCIENTISTS CONFIRM THE AGE AS 25 YEARS.

ALSO 250 PLACES FROM AYODHYA TO RAMESHWARAM SCIENTISTS FOUND SAME MARKS INDICATED IN VALMIKI RAMAYAN.

THIS SHOWS THAT WHATEVER MENTIONED IN OUR HOLY VEDAS ARE FACT.
WE HINDU SHOULD BE PROUD THAT WE ARE BORN AS HINDU AND NOW WE SHOULD WALK ON THE SAME PATH IN WHICH BHAGWAN RAM & BHAGWAN KRISHNA USE TO

I REQUEST ALL MUSLIMS OF WORLD COME BACK TO YOUR SANATAN DHARAM IN WHICH YOUR ANCESTORS WERE BORN.

JAI SHRI RAM. JAI SHRI KRISHNA.Har Har Mahadev.
REFERENCE BY ZEE NEWS.
So, the Treta Yug that is supposed to stretch back hundreds of thousands of years is now fixed in 5000 BC? Well, whatever.

I am unconcerned about Rama's date of birth but am more concerned about his deeds.

Why did he destroy the prosperous city of Lanka and mass-murder so many people in Lanka?

Why did he single out his opponents for murder?

Why did he mistreat his chaste and faithful wife, Seetha?

Wasn't Rama powerful enough to avoid war, harsh words and bloodshed by instead employing his Yogic Power to tame, chase away or dissolve the adverse vital forces guiding Ravana and his other opponents?
Alex123 WM

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#184153 Aug 3, 2013
nek insaan wrote:
INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE RESEARCH VEDAS PROVED VALMIKI RAMAYAN AS AUTHENTIC HOLY BOOK. WITH THE HELP OF NASA. SOFTWARE. SCIENTISTS DECLARED BHAGWAN RAMS BIRTH DATE AS 10 JANUARY 5114 B.C. SAME DATE WHICH IS MENTIONED IN VALMIKI RAMAYAN.BHAGWAN RAM LEFT FOR BANVAS AT THE AGE OF 25 YEARS ACCORDING TO VALMIKI RAMAYAN, SCIENTISTS CONFIRM THE AGE AS 25 YEARS.
ALSO 250 PLACES FROM AYODHYA TO RAMESHWARAM SCIENTISTS FOUND SAME MARKS INDICATED IN VALMIKI RAMAYAN.
THIS SHOWS THAT WHATEVER MENTIONED IN OUR HOLY VEDAS ARE FACT.
WE HINDU SHOULD BE PROUD THAT WE ARE BORN AS HINDU AND NOW WE SHOULD WALK ON THE SAME PATH IN WHICH BHAGWAN RAM & BHAGWAN KRISHNA USE TO
I REQUEST ALL MUSLIMS OF WORLD COME BACK TO YOUR SANATAN DHARAM IN WHICH YOUR ANCESTORS WERE BORN.
JAI SHRI RAM. JAI SHRI KRISHNA.Har Har Mahadev.
REFERENCE BY ZEE NEWS.
Thank you for your thought provoking post.
I think Ramayan is a very good story indeed. There is a lot to learn from it including the patience and strength of Rama. Sita herself was put through a terrible time both in the hands of Ravan and later by Rama who was not comfortable with her time away.
I am not sure if there are original Valmiki Ramayana writings available? How old are they?
Thanks.
Alex123 WM

London, UK

#184154 Aug 3, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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So, the Treta Yug that is supposed to stretch back hundreds of thousands of years is now fixed in 5000 BC? Well, whatever.
I am unconcerned about Rama's date of birth but am more concerned about his deeds.
Why did he destroy the prosperous city of Lanka and mass-murder so many people in Lanka?
Why did he single out his opponents for murder?
Why did he mistreat his chaste and faithful wife, Seetha?
Wasn't Rama powerful enough to avoid war, harsh words and bloodshed by instead employing his Yogic Power to tame, chase away or dissolve the adverse vital forces guiding Ravana and his other opponents?
Good questions, Joel.
Alex123 WM

London, UK

#184155 Aug 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Thank you brother for your support and appreciation.
People try to jump and start in all directions at the same time.
Somehow I am controlling my urge and making this discussion slow, so that things become very clear.
I will watch and see his reply.
Thank you once again.
Ramdan Kareem and Happy Eid
Salaam
MUQ
You are welcome, brother and you are doing the right thing.
Thank you for the your kind wishes.
I also wish you and family Ramadan kareem and a very Happy Eid in a few days InShaAllah
Salaam, Alex WM
Alex123 WM

London, UK

#184156 Aug 3, 2013
bmz wrote:
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lol!
Thanks for saving my time.
Shamma is an insane Christian who is more insane then the Church fathers, who lost all sanity and came up with Christianity and her insane Trinity, which turn Trinitarian Christians into monsters.
Salaams, bro and Eid Mubarak soon
BMZ
lol...glad to be of help, bro!
Whatever it is..Shammy is against it!
They are into building themselves a bubble of ignorance made of aflimsy material known as Islamophobia!
Thank you, bro for the your kind wishes.
May I wish you and family Ramadan Kareem and a very Happy Eid in a few days, InShaAllah
Salaam, Alex WM

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#184157 Aug 3, 2013
My dear friend ur questions are logical.

Therefore you would be knowing that there is 2 forms of god in which he/she is worshiped, one is formless another one with form which comes on earth in the form of human as a messenger.

Now ur question why Ram destroyed Prosperous city Lanka?

Lord Ram sent many messenger to Ravan to avoid war bloodshed but he refused.

If you go through Ramayan u will find your answer in it.
God come on earth to give message to us humans that whatever deed you do you will get back.

Ram was capable to kill Ravan with yogic power but he didn't used, this was to give message to humanity if any person do evil things he will be killed by normal person.

The people lived in city Lanka were ASUR, Ravan was half ASUR and half Brahmin, but attracted towards ASUR concept.

Ravan knows that Ram himself is god and if he is killed by Ram he will get (MOKSH) which every human is in search for but what about other ASUR's how will they get MOKSH. So he didn't compromise with Shri Ram and choose to fight battle with god Ram so that whoever ASUR will be killed by lord Ram will get MOKSH.
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
<quoted text>
So, the Treta Yug that is supposed to stretch back hundreds of thousands of years is now fixed in 5000 BC? Well, whatever.
I am unconcerned about Rama's date of birth but am more concerned about his deeds.
Why did he destroy the prosperous city of Lanka and mass-murder so many people in Lanka?
Why did he single out his opponents for murder?
Why did he mistreat his chaste and faithful wife, Seetha?
Wasn't Rama powerful enough to avoid war, harsh words and bloodshed by instead employing his Yogic Power to tame, chase away or dissolve the adverse vital forces guiding Ravana and his other opponents?

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#184158 Aug 3, 2013
nek insaan wrote:
Therefore you would be knowing that there is 2 forms of god in which he/she is worshiped, one is formless another one with form which comes on earth in the form of human as a messenger.

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Ice has form but water vapor is formless - so, is there any change in the innate molecular formula of both the states of water which is H2O? No, right?

So, whether the typal being calling itself God has taken physical form via an incarnation or if it remains formless (formless from a physical perspective) or physically unincarnated, what does it matter as its innate power and its inherent degree of consciousness ought to as such remain unaltered.

Whereas in the supraphysical planes beyond the gross physical spatio-temporal dimensions, a vibration or typal consciousness with its inherent energy field has a form or a configuration that's native to its plane of origin.

Thus, we see the words form and formless are mental constructs of the mind enmeshed in matter.

What matters is the intrinsic properties, power and degree of consciousness.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#184159 Aug 3, 2013
nek insaan wrote:
Ram was capable to kill Ravan with yogic power but he didn't used, this was to give message to humanity if any person do evil things he will be killed by normal person.

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LOL.

Whether one kills with a physical weapon or by using a mantra directed at the opponent, the act of murder is involved in both these cases.

I meant this - murder whether by physical weapons or by employing mantras should have been avoided by Rama at all costs.

If ordinary negotiations failed, Rama should have been powerful enough to tame or drive away the adverse vital beings who had possessed Ravana and all his other opponents.

With the calming down, taming or chasing away of the adverse vital beings possessing his opponents, thus violence, bloodshed and murder would have been avoided and the adverse vital beings would have on the contrary become Rama's friends or would have been subdued enough to not create problems for him and with the possessing adverse vital beings surrendering before the superior and non-violent yogic power of Rama, his human opponents, too, who were possessed and being guided by the adverse vital beings, would have calmed down and done Rama's bidding which is handing over Seetha without war or argument.

This superior approach would have been a true victory and murder, whether using physical weapons or mantras, would have been avoided and so friend and foe would have shared a harmonious working relationship.

Killing, threatening, abusing, cursing, enslaving, sectarianism, fanaticism, and other acts of violence are the perverse doings of the demon-possessed inferior prophets who execute the vile commands of an adverse vital being (asuric or demonic power) who is God to them.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#184160 Aug 3, 2013
nek insaan wrote:
Ravan knows that Ram himself is god and if he is killed by Ram he will get (MOKSH) which every human is in search for but what about other ASUR's how will they get MOKSH. So he didn't compromise with Shri Ram and choose to fight battle with god Ram so that whoever ASUR will be killed by lord Ram will get MOKSH.

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LMAO.

That's all hogwash and ignorant explanations to give a favorable explanation for murder.

Rama's teachings and his life-actions reveal that he was an incarnation of the Higher Mind Plane with infusions of Vital Power as the High Mind Formation descended to incarnate as Rama.

So, Rama himself was an incarnation of a typal being of a not very high grade of consciousness-energy - namely, of the Higher Mind Plane - and was hence incomplete and filled with flaws and thus his words, policies and actions were such.

Moksh or Liberation is of the gross physical, subtle physical, lower vital, higher vital, mental, higher mental, illumined mind, intuitive mind, overmental, supramental and other kinds. There's a gradation where Moksh is concerned.

No one attains to any kind of Moksh by getting murdered.

The very act of murder would generate unbalanced vibrations in the murdered person's physical, vital and mental force fields that would in turn further smother the poise of the indwelling psychic (soul) that supports and organizes the frontal personality of matter, vital and mind in the person and this violent act (murder) would create greater turmoil in the psychic poise and far from being liberated, the murdered person's disembodied psychic with its overlying force fields of mind, vital and physical would vibrate at a violent frequency causing great distress.

Understand, now?

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#184161 Aug 3, 2013
lord Shiv is worshipped formless whereas other god messenger Ram Krishna and others are worshipped in form.

Moral is Ram, Krishna and,Jesus, Buddha was real they came on earth gave message to humanity. Now it is upto us whom we should follow.

We humans think that we are most intelligent, intelligent than our creator when person thinks like this way from that time he/she chooses wrong path for himself.

All messenger came to teach us how to live our life except Muhammad bcoz he was not a messenger there is no proof of him being a messenger.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#184162 Aug 3, 2013
The word "formless" is a misnomer since what appears formless in matter, has its own typal form in its own paranormal dimension or plane of origin. The word "invisible" is another misnomer since, in a physical sense, what appears invisible to the naked eyes is visible under a microscope or through x-rays or mri etc. Similarly, through the yogic vision, nothing is invisible and every entity, gross or subtle", is perceived in a form that's native to its typal consciousness and inherent energy field.

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#184163 Aug 3, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Haj is a worse form of mind control.
I've checked the videos and relics and samples of the Zam Zam water of the Haj and have seen through the subtle vision numerous demonic forces permeating the mosque, the phallic stone, the well and the Zam Zam water.
I was badly affected during the yogic investigation of the Kaaba as mentioned above and the ill-effects lasted for days.
Sorry to say so, even the words of the Quran radiate the same demonic forces.
Besides, I'm on a far higher intellectual level than Muhammad and so his teachings, aside from radiating those demonic forces that I mentioned above, are too childish and irrational for an intellectual with mystical experience to digest.
So, I can't even think of joining hands with evils like Islam and Haj.
That is why transcendental meditation is dangerous. God gave us minds to use to observe His creation and praise Him. He did not give us minds as if we can communicate with others by TM. That is the work of demons, as if WE can decide what is good and bad for ourselves without turning to the Maker of the universe.

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#184164 Aug 3, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
HIGHLIGHT:
Every religion is a limitation and ultimately revolves around the worship of a typal being usually an evil typal being or at the most the faith could culminate in the worship of its founder who would be a person of perversity or have limited knowledge and ordinary inner experiences.
If a person were living in Israel or Judah in Bible times, and listened to the warnings of the prophets who were promoting true worship, he was doing the right thing. But one must decide who is a true prophet, and what a true prophet would be saying.

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#184165 Aug 3, 2013
Formless means shapeless, Amorphous, Unformed. That is Shiv ling

Understood.
Seeker

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#184166 Aug 3, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: well i don't believe that G-D, lied to me.
Of course God didn't lie to you. God would never lie. You have merely lied to yourself because it's not God talking to you, it's your own delusional mind, but you aren't firing on all cylinders, so you cannot not realize this. You have psychological disorders, but one of the things about having psychological disorders is that the person suffering from them is not able to see them for the psychological disorders that they really are. That's what part of being crazy is all about. If they knew that they were suffering from delusions, they probably wouldn't be crazy or at least not too crazy. But you are.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#184167 Aug 3, 2013
In a physical sense, shapelessness is a form of disharmony, randomness, lack of concentrated purpose or disorder.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#184168 Aug 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
My dear brother, let me say that you are wrong.
We did not enter this debate to discuss ONLY about Deut. 18:18. I never have mentioned about Deut. 18:18, despite you trying EVERYTHING in your power to bring it in focus. The topic of our discussion is “What Bible says about our prophet”?
Yes, and THAT is the conversation I entered. I would not bother to enter into a conversation about whether Jesus was prophecized or not as that would take forever.
MUQ wrote:
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Since that covers the subject of prophesy, we had to build up a foundation before we start this discussion.
I told you the methodology that I use for ANYBODY that is prophecized. Jesus, Muhammad, ANYBODY. And my methodology has remained consistent throughout the conversation. Do you agree with my logical methodology or not? If you do not agree with the basic and solid logic that if a person cannot meet an important and clear part of the prophecy, then they are to be disqualified, then we don't need to discuss this any further. If a person matches the aspects of a prophecy that says he will be six feet tall, have a name of Bob, green eyes and will be born in Damasucus, and we know that he was born in Tulsa Oklahoma, there is no reason to look if the person matches the other parts or not, despite any "apparent" similarities. Do you think we should still consider the person as the one prophecized in the above example or would you agree that the person, despite other similarities, cannot be the person prophecized?
MUQ wrote:
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02. We agreed that they are never very specific,
I do not recall agreeing that they are NEVER specific. Maybe they often are not, but I doubt that I would ever say that they are NEVER specific because some parts of them CAN be specific. When 18:18 says "from among your brothers", that is a very specific mention of what group of people he will come from. If you want to discuss whether from among your brothers actually means from among the descendants of Ishmael rather than fellow Jews, then we can discuss that. But if you acknowledge that it meant from fellow Jews, and you seek to merely ignore that part and focus on other parts instead, then there is no need for us to discuss this any further. This is now the THIRD time I have CLEARLY explained this to you.
MUQ wrote:
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4 The best way to do is to list all Positive and Negative qualities mentioned in these prophesies and try to reason and logic to which it Most logically fits.
Not if there is an aspect that makes it impossible for this person to be that prophet, and I have CONSISTENTLY said this every step of the way and have not changed my view on this one iota. If the person is born in Tulsa Oklahoma rather than Damascus, that person is disqualified. If the person is supposed to come from fellow Jews and is not a Jew, that person is automatically disqualified, despite any subjective similarities that one MIGHT think the person MIGHT fit.
MUQ wrote:
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5. My idea to start with Jesus, was not to change the topic of discussion, but to verify the rules of interpretation.
I have clearly stated what I think is an acceptable methodology and what is not, and it matches the correct, basic rules of logic and yours do not.
MUQ wrote:
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You know claims these BIBLE THUMPERS make about Bible and its prophesies.
I don't care what Bible thumpers think as they can be irrational, just like YOU are being as well and I did not enter this conversation to discuss their self serving irrationalities. If there is a CLEAR quality that Jesus cannot meet, he is disqualified. It is NOT to merely be ignored so that we can merely focus on where he DOES meet it. You have not produced any CLEAR aspect of the prophecy that automatically disqualifies him, and therefore we can move onto other aspects of the prophecy, such as verse context etc...
Seeker

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#184170 Aug 3, 2013
Alex123 WM wrote:
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I am at peace and have a blessed life.
You sure don't seem that way to me and many others. Maybe you haven't noticed, but many have given up even bothering to have any serious discussions with you at all at this point. What Simon said to me a little while back was completely right.
bmz

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#184171 Aug 3, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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I don't think I can ever become emotionally stable. The inner damage to my psyche and emotions is too deep and I guess irreversible in most ways. All my talent and good looks and education and wealth are of no use as I can't emote normally and am rarely if at all at peace. Besides, a permanent adverse force put on me years ago by you know whom is still present in my aura that I can perceive and feel and it's aim is to totally destabilize me so that I either go insane or commit suicide or it may well engineer a fatal accident one day. I can't enter into normal or healthy relations with anyone on account of this damage that's still continuing and being made worse by that thing in my aura that drives away people who try to reach out to me. I can't bear the suffering in most ways and am usually depressed and sad. Worst part is that I have no one at home to comfort me. My late mother loved me so much. I miss her a lot. I get a strong feeling that I will die very soon, so much the better.
Best Regards.
Look, Joel!

I know you can.

People have been able to throw their horrible past behind, so can you.

Instead of keeping aloof, you need to mix up with people of all sorts. If you can do that on forums, surely you can handle the people in real life. You know the saying, "When the going gets tough, the tough get going!" Right?

Wish you all the best.

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