I disagree. If we find a very important key element missing or where that person could NOT have met that criteria, then that person is disqualified<quoted text>
If we find many "key element" missing, then we should look for another candidate.
Not called "such and such", those names were pretty specific. You are trying to downplay the elements that do not meet your desires.<quoted text>
02. Regarding Isaiah 9:6, I already mentioned that it speaks of someone who will free the Yoke of Jews, He will be a ruler and sit on the Throne of David.
In between , a "piece is added" that a "Child is Born, a Son is given and he will be called such and such".
It does not say when he will be called those names and by who.<quoted text>
Jesus was not called all those names during his life time,
He delivered in terms of the New Covenant spoke about in Jeremiah 31, and he is supposed to return and that is when he will deliver upon the rest. Nothing in the prophecy says exactly when it will happen nor does it say that as soon as it has begun, it shall be completed. So there is much gray area.<quoted text>
his mission was very brief and he did not deliver Jews, nor he set on the Throne of David.
Well, it's possible that the real Messiah has still yet to come as Jews believe (because they have to or else they did some very bad things to the Messiah), but there is nobody else that people call God Almighty and Prince of Peace, and billions of Christians call him that. And since Jesus himself clearly prophecised his return, there is nothing that disqualifies him from this prophecy.<quoted text>
03. I do not want to "guess" to whom it was actually made. I am only concern with that it does not fit Jesus.
Isaiah 7:14<quoted text>
05. I politely asked you to mention another "clear cut" prophesy about Jesus from OT books, so we can see how it fits Jesus.
And the problem is that I already know exactly where you are trying to go with this, and this has been a tremendously unneccessary waste of time for me.<quoted text>
07. I am not unnecessarily prolonging this discussion , this is step by step process which I mentioned in the beginning of my discussion.
So what do you think that Jesus meant when he said that? What do you think that Jesus meant when he said that Isaiah wrote about him as well?<quoted text>
But jesus saying "Moses wrote about me" does not mention that you put "every prophesy which Moses made on Jesus.
I don't even care whether Jesus met the specific prophesy of Deuteronomy 18:18. If like unto thee meant performing miracles like Moses did, then Jesus would possibly be a good candidate.<quoted text>
We should not be of "closed mind" and be objective in our analysis. If Jesus did not fulfill one prophesy, we should look for an alternate person.
10 Since then, no prophet has risen in Israel like Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face, 11 who did all those signs and wonders the Lord sent him to do in Egyptto Pharaoh and to all his officials and to his whole land. 12 For no one has ever shown the mighty power or performed the awesome deeds that Moses did in the sight of all Israel.
So at the time of this writing, nobody else came that performed miracles like Moses did. So like unto thee in 18:18, could easily mean performing miracles like Moses did. But again, this discussion is not about whether Jesus or any other Jew was that prophet mentioned in 18. Some Christians think it was Jesus. Some Jews think it was Joshua, some think it was Jeremiah, and some think that it was speaking of all of the Jewish prophets. This discussion is about Muhammad and how we can be SURE that it was not him. I know EXACTLY what you are trying to set up, and we could have saved a lot of time.