Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256424 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#181375 Jun 29, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>You are insanely wrong!
Jesus Existed with the Father In heaven before the world existed.
Jesus is Divine both God_Man.
God is without sin.
You mock God like your thug man Muhammad.
You are insane to believe God is a sinner.
You are wrong Shamma. The Messiah was a sinner before her conversion. "You make me to possess the iniquities of my youth" That is how the Messiah will make intercession for the transgressors. Isaiah 53:12. She cannot fault any body for something she's done herself. Maybe if she was raised properly, she never would've sinned. That's why Jesus said, "Behold, I come as a thief".
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#181376 Jun 29, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi, Susan
Has this also been declared or claimed to be a prophesy about Jesus by the Church?
I have not seen Christians claiming this for Jesus. How come the Church missed hijacking Deut 32 song?
The song of Moses is being fulfilled now. Jesus is mentioned in the song, bmz. Verse 17 "They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not" Verse 31 "For their rock is not as our Rock..." I don't know a lot about Christianity and what they teach, bmz. I know Peter means rock but the Rock of God is music. Speaking of idols Exodus 32:34 "...behold my Angel shall go before you: nevertheless in the day when I visit I will visit their sin upon them".

Since: Apr 11

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#181377 Jun 29, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>You are wrong Shamma. The Messiah was a sinner before her conversion. "You make me to possess the iniquities of my youth" That is how the Messiah will make intercession for the transgressors. Isaiah 53:12. She cannot fault any body for something she's done herself. Maybe if she was raised properly, she never would've sinned. That's why Jesus said, "Behold, I come as a thief".
You are delusional Susan.
God does not sin.
Jesus is the Son of God, God in human form.

Behold I come as a thief,.... These are the words of Christ, inserted in a parenthesis in this account, before it is concluded, to acquaint his people with his near and sudden approach, and to give them a word of caution and exhortation in these times of difficulty; for he is the Lord God Almighty, who sent forth these angels to pour out their vials, and whose judgments are applauded as righteous, Revelation 16:1 and who so often in Revelation 22:7 says "I come quickly"; and which is to be understood not of his spiritual coming, which will be already at this time, but of his personal coming: and which will be "as a thief": as it is often expressed, 1 Thessalonians 5:2 not in the bad sense, to steal and kill, and to destroy, though Christ's coming will issue in the everlasting destruction of the wicked; but the phrase is designed to express the suddenness of his coming, and the surprise of it:

blessed is he that watcheth; against sin, the lusts of the flesh, and the cares of this life, lest they bring a sleepiness upon him, and so the day of the Lord come upon him at an unawares; and against Satan and his temptations, who goes about seeking whom he may devour; and against his emissaries and false teachers, who lie in wait to deceive; and blessed is he also who is wishing and waiting for the coming of Christ, and so, being ready, will enter with him into the marriage chamber, and partake of the supper of the Lamb:

and keepeth his garments: either his conversation garments, unspotted from the world, and whenever defiled washes them, and makes them white in the blood of the Lamb; and keeps them from being stripped of them, by those who would lead them into sinful ways; or that keeps and holds fast the robe of Christ's righteousness, and garments of his salvation, which are the righteousness of the saints, that fine linen clean and white, that white raiment which only can cover their nakedness, that the shame thereof does not appear, Revelation 19:8

lest he walk naked; (b), "naked of the commandments", or good works, according to the Jewish phrase; having lost, or dropped his conversation garments:

and they see his shame; or lest, being naked, he be exposed to shame and confusion, yea, to everlasting ruin and destruction; see Matthew 22:12 the allusion is to the burning of the garments of those priests who were found asleep when upon their watch in the temple: the account that is given is this (c);

"the man of the mountain of the house (the governor of the temple) goes round all the wards (every night) with burning torches before him; and in every ward where the person does not stand upon his feet, the man of the mountain of the house says to him, peace be to thee; if he finds he is asleep, he strikes him with his staff, and he has power to burn his clothes; and they say (in Jerusalem) what voice is that in the court?(it is answered) the voice of a Levite beaten, and his clothes burnt, because he slept in the time of his watch; R. Eliezer ben Jacob says, once they found my mother's brother asleep, and they burnt his clothes:''

now imagine with what shame the poor Levite so served must appear the next morning among his brethren, with his clothes burnt, and he naked; and with greater shame and confusions must he appear at the last day that is destitute of the righteousness of Christ.

Since: Apr 11

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#181378 Jun 29, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>The song of Moses is being fulfilled now. Jesus is mentioned in the song, bmz. Verse 17 "They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not" Verse 31 "For their rock is not as our Rock..." I don't know a lot about Christianity and what they teach, bmz. I know Peter means rock but the Rock of God is music. Speaking of idols Exodus 32:34 "...behold my Angel shall go before you: nevertheless in the day when I visit I will visit their sin upon them".
You need to get a new mentor Susan.
You are delusional.

"He is a Rock." This is the first time God is called so in Scripture. The expression denotes that the Divine power, faithfulness, and love, as revealed in Christ and the gospel, form a foundation which cannot be changed or moved, on which we may build our hopes of happiness. And under his protection we may find refuge from all our enemies, and in all our troubles; as the rocks in those countries sheltered from the burning rays of the sun, and from tempests, or were fortresses from the enemy. "His work is perfect:" that of redemption and salvation, in which there is a display of all the Divine perfection, complete in all its parts. All God's dealings with his creatures are regulated by wisdom which cannot err, and perfect justice. He is indeed just and right; he takes care that none shall lose by him. A high charge is exhibited against Israel. Even God's children have their spots, while in this imperfect state; for if we say we have no sin, no spot, we deceive ourselves. But the sin of Israel was not habitual, notorious, unrepented sin; which is a certain mark of the children of Satan. They were fools to forsake their mercies for lying vanities. All wilful sinners, especially sinners in Israel, are unwise and ungrateful.

(Read Deuteronomy 32:7-14)

Moses gives particular instances of God's kindness and concern for them. The eagle's care for her young is a beautiful emblem of Christ's love, who came between Divine justice and our guilty souls, and bare our sins in his own body on the tree. And by the preached gospel, and the influences of the Holy Spirit, He stirs up and prevails upon sinners to leave Satan's bondage. In verses 13,14, are emblems of the conquest believers have over their spiritual enemies, sin, Satan, and the world, in and through Christ. Also of their safety and triumph in him; of their happy frames of soul, when they are above the world, and the things of it. This will be the blessed case of spiritual Israel in every sense in the latter day.

(Read Deuteronomy 32:15-18)

Here are two instances of the wickedness of Israel, each was apostacy from God. These people were called Jeshurun, "an upright people," so some; "a seeing people," so others: but they soon lost the reputation both of their knowledge and of their righteousness. They indulged their appetites, as if they had nothing to do but to make provision for the flesh to fulfil the lusts of it. Those who make a god of themselves, and a god of their bellies, in pride and wantonness, and cannot bear to be told of it, thereby forsake God, and show they esteem him lightly. There is but one way of a sinner's acceptance and sanctification, however different modes of irreligion, or false religion, may show that favourable regard for other ways, which is often miscalled candid. How mad are idolaters, who forsake the Rock of salvation, to run themselves upon the rock of perdition
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#181379 Jun 29, 2013
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#181380 Jun 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Heb. 5-6

What Paul Wrote?)

You are a priest in the priestly order of Melchizedek

Remarks (MUQ)

Paul creating a new Priestly Order, of a person, no one even remembers his name!!
Paul was a motor-mouth, MUQ.

Paul did not know that Melchizedek was not a priest of any order.

He was the king of Salem. There was no such kingdom and I believe he was a a very poor man and Abraham had pity on him. He brought food and drinks to Abraham and Abraham helped him by giving 10% of the spoil he won.

There was no Temple and no priesthood of any kind at that time.

Thanks for bringing up Paul's dishes.

Salaams
BMZ

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#181381 Jun 29, 2013
bmz wrote:
Shamma and Husky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Nupfxo2ihQcXX
Smart dog.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#181382 Jun 29, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>You need to get a new mentor Susan.
You are delusional.
"He is a Rock." This is the first time God is called so in Scripture. The expression denotes that the Divine power, faithfulness, and love, as revealed in Christ and the gospel, form a foundation which cannot be changed or moved, on which we may build our hopes of happiness. And under his protection we may find refuge from all our enemies, and in all our troubles; as the rocks in those countries sheltered from the burning rays of the sun, and from tempests, or were fortresses from the enemy. "His work is perfect:" that of redemption and salvation, in which there is a display of all the Divine perfection, complete in all its parts. All God's dealings with his creatures are regulated by wisdom which cannot err, and perfect justice. He is indeed just and right; he takes care that none shall lose by him. A high charge is exhibited against Israel. Even God's children have their spots, while in this imperfect state; for if we say we have no sin, no spot, we deceive ourselves. But the sin of Israel was not habitual, notorious, unrepented sin; which is a certain mark of the children of Satan. They were fools to forsake their mercies for lying vanities. All wilful sinners, especially sinners in Israel, are unwise and ungrateful.
(Read Deuteronomy 32:7-14)
Moses gives particular instances of God's kindness and concern for them. The eagle's care for her young is a beautiful emblem of Christ's love, who came between Divine justice and our guilty souls, and bare our sins in his own body on the tree. And by the preached gospel, and the influences of the Holy Spirit, He stirs up and prevails upon sinners to leave Satan's bondage. In verses 13,14, are emblems of the conquest believers have over their spiritual enemies, sin, Satan, and the world, in and through Christ. Also of their safety and triumph in him; of their happy frames of soul, when they are above the world, and the things of it. This will be the blessed case of spiritual Israel in every sense in the latter day.
(Read Deuteronomy 32:15-18)
Here are two instances of the wickedness of Israel, each was apostacy from God. These people were called Jeshurun, "an upright people," so some; "a seeing people," so others: but they soon lost the reputation both of their knowledge and of their righteousness. They indulged their appetites, as if they had nothing to do but to make provision for the flesh to fulfil the lusts of it. Those who make a god of themselves, and a god of their bellies, in pride and wantonness, and cannot bear to be told of it, thereby forsake God, and show they esteem him lightly. There is but one way of a sinner's acceptance and sanctification, however different modes of irreligion, or false religion, may show that favourable regard for other ways, which is often miscalled candid. How mad are idolaters, who forsake the Rock of salvation, to run themselves upon the rock of perdition
"The Lord is my Rock, my strength and my song". "Behold their sitting down and their rising up, I am their musick" [sic] Jeshurun is a poetic name for Israel and means "upright one". Becoming fat means prosperity, pride, and corruption, and they happen in that order. In the latter days, Israel would join itself to idols.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#181383 Jun 29, 2013
Shamma wrote:
14. Only Jesus will be the Judge who will come to this world to judge the living and the dead; the Arab prophet (El-Bukhari) confirmed this fact, saying: "The Last Hour will not come until the Son of Mary come down as the just Judge."
El-Bukhari an Arab prophet? LMAO!!!

Only God, the LORD Almighty will judge all on the Day of Resurrection,(not on earth).

Jesus does not qualify for the post of a judge because he himself was judged. Jesus ain't coming back.

He is dead, dust and bones. So please let him rest in peace.
El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#181384 Jun 29, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi, El
How can you ask others, whose eyes are already open, to open their eyes while you keep your own eyes shut tight?
There are hardly a few pages on the Son of Mary, in Qur'aan and Muhammad did not speak a lot about Jesus.
What about Paul and others, who penned the New Testament and the men, who concocted absurd doctrines? Those were the men, who brazenly spoke for Jesus.
None of those men ever sat in the company of Jesus or his disciples and churned out material, which gets no support from Jesus. They spoke what Jesus did not. Right?
It is time to reflect on the bulk of lies of those men, which were churned out against God Almighty and his obedient slave Jesus, mate.
Where did Mohammad get his info about Jesus? Oh, that's right. It was from some "spirit" that he encountered in a cave on the road to Damascus, right? No..wait..that was Paul.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#181385 Jun 29, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: well your alleged jesus, only allegedly began with 12. so your bad, and/or sarcastic bad attitude, is still there.
Actually, that is wrong. He went out all over the place to the people and performed miraculous healings. He answered their questions when asked them and gave them answers that they didn't expect and they had such wisdom to them that it astonished people. And when I myself read those answers and things that he said, I too am astonished by their deeper wisdom.

And I am not being sarcastic at all. If you have special knowledge, then you should be obligated to spread that in the most effective way you know how, not waste it on a forum. But then again, if someone didn't really have special knowledge or guidance, then this is exactly what I would expect them to do. Waste time babbling incoherently on insignificant discussion forums. And all that you have said this whole time is that you have all the answers and everybody else is wrong, but you offer no real guidance at all as to what people should do. Seems to be nothing but a personal ego stroke to me, and a delusional one at that.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#181386 Jun 29, 2013
Normal Man wrote:
When the Arab-Muslims entered Asia such as India, Pakistan, Turkestan, Afghanistan..etc.
They spread Islam, then they left these countries, they didn't occupied'em! They didn't spread it by force, they spread it by peace, then they left!
You need to study your history a little better. You obviously have no real education in history, you just listen to sugar coated crap that the lying Muslim propaganda machine feeds you.
Normal Man wrote:
Islam is peace, not violent!
The word peace in Islam has nothing to do with non violence. It means the inner peace one is supposed to attain by submitting to the will of Allah. And if we read the Quran, Allah often wills violence and often does not like the pacifist. From the Quran itself. Go ahead and deny it.

2:216
Fighting is ordained for you, even though it be hateful to you; but it may well be that you hate a thing the while it is good for you, and it may well be that you love a thing the while it is bad for you: and God knows, whereas you do not know.

I can't stand it when Muslims try to pull this little lie by using the word peace to suggest non violence. It just simply isn't true and not only does the actual behavior of Muslims themselves tell us this, the Quran itself tells us this. And there is nothing in the Quran that tells Muslims to cooperate, or compromise or practice pacifism with non Muslims. NOTHING. There is no such thing as compromise or cooperation with non Muslims anywhere to be found in the entire Quran. I've read the entire thing, and it just simply is not there. They are told that they need to rule, and the closest thing to compromise or cooperation with non Muslims, is Muslims allowing Jews and Christians to live as long as they continually live in humiliation and pay a special tax designed to extort money from them and humiliate them.

So you can make up whatever little fairy tales you want to try to fool people, but I have read the entire Quran itself and what you say just simply is not there.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#181387 Jun 29, 2013
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>Where did Mohammad get his info about Jesus? Oh, that's right. It was from some "spirit" that he encountered in a cave on the road to Damascus, right? No..wait..that was Paul.
The LORD had always revealed to prophets only through the angel Gabriel aka Jibra'eel, not through a spirit.

Moses was unique in the sense that God spoke with him direct and sent revelations through the Angel.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#181388 Jun 29, 2013
Seeker wrote:
You need to study your history a little better. You obviously have no real education in history, you just listen to sugar coated crap that the lying Muslim propaganda machine feeds you.
<quoted text>
The word peace in Islam has nothing to do with non violence. It means the inner peace one is supposed to attain by submitting to the will of Allah. And if we read the Quran, Allah often wills violence and often does not like the pacifist. From the Quran itself. Go ahead and deny it.
2:216
Fighting is ordained for you, even though it be hateful to you; but it may well be that you hate a thing the while it is good for you, and it may well be that you love a thing the while it is bad for you: and God knows, whereas you do not know.
I can't stand it when Muslims try to pull this little lie by using the word peace to suggest non violence. It just simply isn't true and not only does the actual behavior of Muslims themselves tell us this, the Quran itself tells us this. And there is nothing in the Quran that tells Muslims to cooperate, or compromise or practice pacifism with non Muslims. NOTHING. There is no such thing as compromise or cooperation with non Muslims anywhere to be found in the entire Quran. I've read the entire thing, and it just simply is not there. They are told that they need to rule, and the closest thing to compromise or cooperation with non Muslims, is Muslims allowing Jews and Christians to live as long as they continually live in humiliation and pay a special tax designed to extort money from them and humiliate them.
So you can make up whatever little fairy tales you want to try to fool people, but I have read the entire Quran itself and what you say just simply is not there.
I strongly recommend that you start reading not only Qur'aan but also your own Bible, as I see you have read neither well.

Qur'aan: "If any of the idolaters seeks asylum with you, grant him protection, so that he may hear the word of God, and then convey him to his place of safety. That is because the idolaters are people who lack knowledge."

The word idolaters applies to Christians also because the word Mushrikeen includes them too.

And can you recall where did the Jews headed to, when they being slaughtered by the Christians of Europe? Where did they find security? Only in Muslim lands.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#181389 Jun 29, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
The LORD had always revealed to prophets only through the angel Gabriel aka Jibra'eel, not through a spirit.
Moses was unique in the sense that God spoke with him direct and sent revelations through the Angel.
I could have forgotten, but I don't remember any revelations being given to Moses through an Angel. I think that I remember warnings or other things maybe, but I don't remember revelations. But then again, I haven't memorized the entire Bible, I've only read it.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#181390 Jun 29, 2013
Correction, Seeker

Should read:

I strongly recommend that you start reading not only Qur'aan but also your own Bible, as I see you have read neither well. Qur'aan:

"If any of the idolaters seeks asylum with you, grant him protection, so that he may hear the word of God, and then convey him to his place of safety. That is because the idolaters are people who lack knowledge."

The word idolaters applies to Christians also because the word Mushrikeen includes them too.

And can you recall where did the Jews head to, when they were being slaughtered by the Christians of Europe?

Where did they find security? Only in Muslim lands.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#181391 Jun 29, 2013
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
I could have forgotten, but I don't remember any revelations being given to Moses through an Angel. I think that I remember warnings or other things maybe, but I don't remember revelations. But then again, I haven't memorized the entire Bible, I've only read it.
It is not about memorizing. If one has read a book, one would be able to recall.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#181392 Jun 29, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
The LORD had always revealed to prophets only through the angel Gabriel aka Jibra'eel, not through a spirit.
Moses was unique in the sense that God spoke with him direct and sent revelations through the Angel.
You never read the Bible.
You just make things up from your mind.
Your just a Muslim, one of the lying kind.
Every thing you say is mixed up in some way.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#181393 Jun 29, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
I strongly recommend that you start reading not only Qur'aan but also your own Bible, as I see you have read neither well.
Qur'aan: "If any of the idolaters seeks asylum with you, grant him protection, so that he may hear the word of God, and then convey him to his place of safety. That is because the idolaters are people who lack knowledge."
And what happens to them is they still didn't accept the Quran after they read it?
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
The word idolaters applies to Christians also because the word Mushrikeen includes them too.
9:5 and 9:6 does not apply to the people of the book. 9:29 does, and I can give you overwhelming tafsir from people who have studied Islam for their entire lives and know it far better than you do.
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
And can you recall where did the Jews headed to, when they being slaughtered by the Christians of Europe? Where did they find security? Only in Muslim lands.
First of all, show me where Jesus told them to do that? Jesus said to preach to a land and if they reject it, leave that land and wipe the dust off of your sandals. It's not Jesus' fault that people ignore that. But I can show you verses from the Quran where it does tell them to do things like this.

And, I didn't see where you said anything about what the word peace means in the context of Islam. Does it mean the inner peace one is supposed to attain by submitting to the will of Allah or does it mean cooperation, compromise and pacifism with non Muslims as Muslims try to paint it as? There is no such thing as compromise or cooperation with non Muslims in the Quran at all. And you know all of the verses that I can produce that says the opposite. Islam rules, and if you are lucky enough to survive, you submit to Islamic rule, pay the jizyah and be humiliated. And that's only for the people of the book who were lucky enough to survive.

You KNOW this and yet you deny it. And you can show me anything you want from the Old Testament, but Jews don't lie and claim they are the "Religion of Peace" as to suggest non violence, but Muslims do all of the time, and it is designed to hide the clear violence that they do, even today, and the verses that they get their ideas from. It's a scam to hide the clear truth and embarrassment about Islam that the Quran causes decent Muslims in the 21st century.

The terrorist are actually the real Muslims, but there are decent Muslims that are not true Muslims and are not willing to face up to what they are commanded to do because it bothers their conscience. So they try to reinterpret the Quran and Islam in any way that they can to make themselves feel better and make it fit into the 21st century. But I read the whole thing, and it's ALL there and the terrorists are right. They are fighting in Allah's way for Islam through the only means that they have at their disposal.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#181394 Jun 29, 2013
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
And what happens to them is they still didn't accept the Quran after they read it?
<quoted text>
9:5 and 9:6 does not apply to the people of the book. 9:29 does, and I can give you overwhelming tafsir from people who have studied Islam for their entire lives and know it far better than you do.
<quoted text>
First of all, show me where Jesus told them to do that? Jesus said to preach to a land and if they reject it, leave that land and wipe the dust off of your sandals. It's not Jesus' fault that people ignore that. But I can show you verses from the Quran where it does tell them to do things like this.
And, I didn't see where you said anything about what the word peace means in the context of Islam. Does it mean the inner peace one is supposed to attain by submitting to the will of Allah or does it mean cooperation, compromise and pacifism with non Muslims as Muslims try to paint it as? There is no such thing as compromise or cooperation with non Muslims in the Quran at all. And you know all of the verses that I can produce that says the opposite. Islam rules, and if you are lucky enough to survive, you submit to Islamic rule, pay the jizyah and be humiliated. And that's only for the people of the book who were lucky enough to survive.
You KNOW this and yet you deny it. And you can show me anything you want from the Old Testament, but Jews don't lie and claim they are the "Religion of Peace" as to suggest non violence, but Muslims do all of the time, and it is designed to hide the clear violence that they do, even today, and the verses that they get their ideas from. It's a scam to hide the clear truth and embarrassment about Islam that the Quran causes decent Muslims in the 21st century.
The terrorist are actually the real Muslims, but there are decent Muslims that are not true Muslims and are not willing to face up to what they are commanded to do because it bothers their conscience. So they try to reinterpret the Quran and Islam in any way that they can to make themselves feel better and make it fit into the 21st century. But I read the whole thing, and it's ALL there and the terrorists are right. They are fighting in Allah's way for Islam through the only means that they have at their disposal.
Those, whom you call terrorists, are Muslims but you cannot say that they are the ones, who are real Muslims.

Will refute your post after I come back from dinner.

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