Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256358 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

bmz

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#180662 Jun 21, 2013
Seeker wrote:
I don't know Arabic, but could Allah mean THE God, as in the real and only one? Interesting topic. I would like to know more.
You are getting very close to the real kingdom, Seeker.:)

Yes, you can say that. In other words, The True God.

That is exactly what Jesus was referring to in John 17:3

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#180663 Jun 21, 2013
bmz wrote:
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You are getting very close to the real kingdom, Seeker.:)
Yes, you can say that. In other words, The True God.
That is exactly what Jesus was referring to in John 17:3
God is not defined by the Muslim word Allah.
The pagan origin of the word, "Allah".

Islam: Truth or Myth? start page
Interestingly, not many Muslims want to accept that Allah was already being worshipped at the Ka'ba in Mecca by Arab pagans before Muhammad came. Some Muslims become angry when they are confronted with this fact. But history is not on their side. Pre-Islamic literature has proved this." (Who Is This Allah?, G. J. O. Moshay, 1994, p 138)

"But history establishes beyond the shadow of doubt that even the pagan Arabs, before Muhammad's time, knew their chief god by the name of Allah and even, in a sense, proclaimed his unity...Among the pagan Arabs this term denoted the chief god of their pantheon, the Kaaba, with its three hundred and sixty idols." (The Moslem Doctrine of God, Samuel M. Zwemer 1905, p 24-25)

In fact, he did not at first intend to establish a new religion, but rather to reform the belief in Allah which already existed, and to show what this belief truly signified and rightfully demanded.(Mohammed: The man and his faith, Tor Andrae, 1936, Translated by Theophil Menzel, 1960, p13-30)
bmz

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#180664 Jun 21, 2013
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Well I actually make database driven websites, and sometimes it could be a "hiccup", which is actually what it's called, good terminology on your part, but I think sometimes it could be some sort of spam protection also if one writes too many posts too soon together from the same ip address. So if I write a post that's too long for their character max, and split it into two after copying and pasting the excess into notepad to use for the next post to complete the first one, and post one after the other in a short period of time, or even three, it might flag that. Not sure what the case really is, but it's annoying.
I suggest you register as a member. Most of the problems will be over.

However, If you type in long posts in the comment box, type it but do not post. Copy it and go back to the post again to reply.

If your post is too long, paste a portion of it and post in two or three or more bites.

Hope this helps.

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#180666 Jun 21, 2013
The pre-Islamic origin of "Allah"

There is absolutely no question that Allah was worshipped by the pagan Arabs as one of many polytheistic gods.
Allah was worshipped in the Kabah at Mecca before Muhammad was born. Muhammad merely proclaimed a god the Meccans were already familiar with. The pagan Arabs never accused Muhammad of preaching a different Allah than the one they already worshipped.

Many scholars say "Allah" is derived from a compound Arabic word, AL + ILAH = Allah. "Ilah" in Arabic is "God" and "Al" in Arabic is a definite article like our word "the". So from an English equivalent "Allah" comes from "The + God". Others, like Arthur Jeffery say, "The common theory is that it is formed from ilah, the common word for a god, and the article al-; thus al-ilah, the god," becomes Allah, "God."

This theory, however, is untenable. In fact, the name is one of the words borrowed into the language in pre-Islamic times from Aramaic." (Islam: Muhammad and His Religion, Arthur Jeffery, 1958, p 85)

Although "Allah" has become known as the proper name for the Muslim god, Allah is not a name, but a descriptor that means literally, "the god".

All pagan cultures have these generic terms that refer to their "top god" as "the god".

In comparison to the perfect monotheism of Judaism and Christianity, "Allah" was originally no more a proper name for the Muslim God, than the word Hebrew "elohim" (god) or Greek "theos" (god) are proper names of the one true God of the Bible. "Jehovah" is the only revealed proper name for the "Elohim" of the Old Testament ( Ex 3:13; 6:3) and "Jesus" is the only revealed proper name of "Theos" in the New Testament.(Acts 4:12)

Islam has no proper name for their god, but merely transformed, by universal use and confusion, the generic Allah into a proper name. So although today, Muslims use "Allah" as a proper name, it was never used this way originally.

Allah, therefore is equivalent to "elohim" and "ho theos" but not "Jehovah" or "Jesus". Allah is not the name of the nameless Muslim God.

However Muslims will claim that Allah is the name of God that corresponds to Jehovah. Both the Father and the Son are called "ho theos" (The God). Jesus is called "The God" many times in the New Testament:

John 20:28; Heb 1:8. An important conclusion from this, is that the mere fact that "Allah" is equivalent to "elohim" and "ho theos" does not mean they are directly corresponded.

It certainly doesn't prove Allah is the same as the God of the Old or New Testament. It does not prove that Muslim's worship the same God as Christians.

If this correspondence proved the Muslim god was the same as the Christian God, then because pagan religions also have generics that correspond to "the god" (Allah), this correspondence would also prove that Allah is the same god as the Buddhist god, for Buddhists also refer to their god as "the god".

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#180667 Jun 21, 2013
What scholars say about the origin of the word "Allah":

It is not related that the Black Stone was connected with any special god. In the Ka'ba was the statue of the god Hubal who might be called the god of Mecca and of the Ka'ba. Caetani gives great prominence to the connection between the Ka'ba and Hubal. Besides him, however, al-Lat, al-`Uzza, and al-Manat were worshipped and are mentioned in the Kur'an; Hubal is never mentioned there. What position Allah held beside these is not exactly known. The Islamic tradition has certainly elevated him at the expense of other deities. It may be considered certain that the Black Stone was not the only idol in or at the Ka'ba. The Makam Ibrahim was of course a sacred stone from very early times. Its name has not been handed down. Beside it several idols are mentioned, among them the 360 statues.(First Encyclopedia of Islam, E.J. Brill, 1987, Islam, p. 587-591)
"The verses of the Qur'an make it clear that the very name Allah existed in the Jahiliyya or pre-Islamic Arabia. Certain pagan tribes believed in a god whom they called 'Allah' and whom they believed to be the creator of heaven and earth and holder of the highest rank in the hierarchy of the gods. It is well known that the Quraish as well as other tribes believed in Allah, whom they designated as the 'Lord of the House'(i.e., of the Ka'ba)...It is therefore clear that the Qur'anic conception of Allah is not entirely new." (A Guide to the Contents of the Qur'an, Faruq Sherif,(Reading, 1995), pgs. 21-22., Muslim)
According to al-Masudi (Murudj, iv. 47), certain people have regarded the Ka'ba as a temple devoted to the sun, the moon and the five planets. The 36o idols placed round the Ka'ba also point in this direction. It can therefore hardly be denied that traces exist of an astral symbolism. At the same time one can safely say that there can be no question of any general conception on these lines. The cult at the Ka'ba was in the heathen period syncretic as is usual in heathenism.(First Encyclopedia of Islam, E.J. Brill, 1987, Islam, p. 587-591)
The name Allah, as the Qur'an itself is witness, was well known in pre-Islamic Arabia. Indeed, both it and its feminine form, Allat, are found not infrequently among the theophorous names in inscriptions from North Arabia. The common theory is that it is formed from ilah, the common word for a god, and the article al-; thus al-ilah, the god," becomes Allah, "God." This theory, however, is untenable. In fact, the name is one of the words borrowed into the language in pre-Islamic times from Aramaic.(Islam: Muhammad and His Religion, Arthur Jeffery, 1958, p 85)
"If a Muslim says, "Your God and our God is the same," either he does not understand who Allah and Christ really are, or he intentionally glosses over the deep-rooted differences." (Who Is Allah In Islam?, Abd-Al Masih, Light of Life, 1985, p. 36.)
Now there dwelt in Mecca a god called Allah. He was the provider, the most powerful of all the local deities, the one to whom every Meccan turned in time of need. But, for all his power, Allah was a remote god. At the time of Muhammad, however, he was on the ascendancy. He had replaced the moon god as lord of the Kaaba although still relegated to an inferior position below various tribal idols and three powerful goddesses: al-Manat, goddess of fate, al-Lat, mother of the gods, and al-Uzza, the planet Venus.(Islam and the Arabs, Rom Landau, 1958 p 11-21)
Muhammad no more invented Allah than he did al-Lat, al-Uzza, and Manat. The Cult of the deity termed simply "thc god" (al-ilah) was known throughout southern Syria and northern Arabia," and it was obviously of central importance in Mecca, where the building called the Ka'ba was indisputably his house. Indeed, the Muslim profession of faith,
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#180668 Jun 21, 2013
Seeker wrote:
As far Allah actually being the moon God, coming from the Meccan pagan tradition, there are some parallels between Islam and their religion. They revered the Kaaba and the Black Stone, and the Jinn was part of their beliefs as well, and the Islamic symbol IS the crescent MOON. Interesting. Muhammad seemed to like to throw a lot of things together from different religions and/or beliefs and rearrange them to suit his story.
Arabs did not have any moon god. In Arabic, moon is Qamar and god is ilah. If there were a moon god, then the polemicists would have surely dug out Qamar Ilah (Moon God) from the tale collections.

The pagan Arabs did not know anything about Jinns and did not believe in Jinns.

The moon God theory was thrown in the early nineties by Robert Morey, an ignorant fool, who claims to be a scholar in Islamic studies. Even Western non-Muslim scholars have debunked him.

Looking at Robert Morey's silly and absurd reasoning, I can also say that Jesus and his followers were also worshipping the moon God because they waited every month for the crescent to appear.

However, I find it strange that Robert Morey did not assign a star God to the Jews for having Star of David on the flags.

For example, if they waited for the month Nissan, they looked for the crescent moon to start religious activities.

For almost 800 plus years, the Islamic flags were plain green or white and there was no crescent on the mosques. The Ottomans introduced the crescent sign on the flags and the mosques. Most educated folks find this very hard to understand. What I wrote is more difficult to understand than John 17:3

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#180669 Jun 21, 2013
The Muslim pagan Allah god. Continued:

Prior to the rise of Islam, these three goddesses were associated with Allah as his daughters and all were worshiped at Mecca and other places in the vicinity.(The Archeology Of World Religions, Jack Finegan, 1952, p482-485, 492)
Allah (allah, al-ilah, the god) was the principal, though not the only, deity of Makkah. The name is an ancient one. It occurs in two South Arabic inscriptions, one a Minaean found at al-'Ula and the other a Sabaean, but abounds in the form HLH in the Lihyanite inscriptions of the fifth century- B.C. Lihyan, which evidently got the god from Syria, was the first Centre of the worship of this deity in Arabia. The name occurs as Hallah in the Safa inscriptions five centuries before Islam and also in a pre-Islamic Christian Arabic inscription found in umm-al-Jimal, Syria, and ascribed to the sixth century . The name of Muhammad's father was 'Abd-Allah ('Abdullah, the slave or worshipper of Allah). The esteem in which Allah was held by thepre-Islamic Makkans as the creator and supreme provider and the one to be invoked in time of special peril may be inferred from such koranic passages as 31 : 24, 31; 6 : 137, 109; to : 23. Evidently he was the tribal deity of the Quraysh.(History Of The Arabs, Philip K. Hitti, 1937, p 96-101)
When Mohammed proclaimed his creed:'There is no God but Allah,' he was not trying to introduce a new God. His pagan countrymen knew and acknowledged this divinity. His name, Allah, occurs already in pre-Mohammedan times, both in inscriptions and in compound personal names like Abd Allah,'servant of Allah.' The effective note in Mohammed's evangelistic preaching is that he is able to accuse the pagans of acknowledging Allah as the creator of heaven and earth, and yet failing to draw the only possible conclusion from their belief; which is, to worship Allah and none else besides Him.'If thou ask them who hath created the Heavens and the Earth, and hath imposed laws upon the sun and the moon, they will certainly say, "Allah".. If thou ask them who sendeth rain from Heaven, and by it quickeneth the earth after it hath been dead, they will certainly answer "Allah"'(Sura 29, 6 1 and 63). When in extreme danger, especially on the sea, the pagans call upon Allah (29, 65; 31, 31; 17, 69), but when they are on land again, and feel safe, they share His divine honour with other beings. Allah is supposed to have given certain commandments and taboos to men (Sura 6, 139 ff.), and the most sacred oaths are sworn in His name (Sura 3,r, 40; 16, 40). Thus, even though Allah was not worshipped as He deserved, the cult of Allah was not entirely neglected. A species of tithing, or offering of the first-fruits of grain and cattle, was offered to Allah as well as to the other gods (6, 137). But, above all, Allah was apparently regarded as ,the Lord of the Ka'ba,' the God to whom the cult of the highest sanctuary of Central Arabia was dedicated. In one of the oldest Suras (io6) Mohammed urges his tribesmen, the Quraish, to worship 'the Lord of this house, who allows the two annual trade caravans to be equipped, and who cares for them, and permits them to dwell in security. Concerning himself he says that he has received the commandment to worship 'the Lord of the house,' i.e. the Ka'ba. Apparently, then, the Prophet and his countrymen fully agree that the God who is worshipped through the ritual of the Ka'ba is Allah.(Mohammed: The man and his faith, Tor Andrae, 1936, Translated by Theophil Menzel, 1960, p13-30)
"The religion of the Arabs, as well as their political life, was on a thoroughly primitive level...In particular the Semites regarded trees, caves, springs, and large stones as being inhabited by spirits; like the Black Stone of Islam in a corner of the Ka'bah at Mecca, in Petra and other places in Arabia stones were venerated also...

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#180670 Jun 21, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Arabs did not have any moon god. In Arabic, moon is Qamar and god is ilah. If there were a moon god, then the polemicists would have surely dug out Qamar Ilah (Moon God) from the tale collections.
The pagan Arabs did not know anything about Jinns and did not believe in Jinns.
The moon God theory was thrown in the early nineties by Robert Morey, an ignorant fool, who claims to be a scholar in Islamic studies. Even Western non-Muslim scholars have debunked him.
Looking at Robert Morey's silly and absurd reasoning, I can also say that Jesus and his followers were also worshipping the moon God because they waited every month for the crescent to appear.
However, I find it strange that Robert Morey did not assign a star God to the Jews for having Star of David on the flags.
For example, if they waited for the month Nissan, they looked for the crescent moon to start religious activities.
For almost 800 plus years, the Islamic flags were plain green or white and there was no crescent on the mosques. The Ottomans introduced the crescent sign on the flags and the mosques. Most educated folks find this very hard to understand. What I wrote is more difficult to understand than John 17:3
You are ignorant, and too arrogant yo admit the truth About your religion of Islam, and how it was founded by Muhammad on his worship of the pagan moon god Allah.

Muhammad declared war on Jews and Christians for their rejection of Muhammad's false God.

Every night on this thread you post lies to defend Muhammad's false god.
Every day Muslim thugs are persecuting people and murdering and kidnapping people, and killing them for Muhammad's lies.

You are sick in the head.
The real God creator of the world does not authorize anyone to kill another human being in using His name.

That is why Muslims call their god Allah, because it is not the true God who created the world.

bmz

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#180671 Jun 21, 2013
Shamma wrote:
"If a Muslim says, "Your God and our God is the same," either he does not understand who Allah and Christ really are, or he intentionally glosses over the deep-rooted differences." (Who Is Allah In Islam?, Abd-Al Masih, Light of Life, 1985, p. 36.)
Abd-Al Masih?

This is the problem with Christians. Do you even know what Abd-Al Masih means?

It means Slave or Servant of Jesus. That fool should at least call himself Abd Al Elohim or Abdul Elohim or Abdul Hashem, if he worships the true God.

I suggest he calls himself Abdul Father.

Jesus need not be worshipped because he was a puny man. Worship the Creator not the creature.

Jesus was Abd-Allah or Abdullah, meaning Slave or Servant of Allah, the LORD almighty God.

Muslims should never tell the Christians that their God and the God of Christians is the same.

The Christian God is a Trinity, which is absurd, monstrous and preposterous. It does not exist.
MUQ

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#180672 Jun 21, 2013
Teachings of Paul Part-0 Introduction (By MUQ)(Repeat)

Every one knows that St. Paul has a pivotal role in the development of Early Christianity. No one else was as influential as he in formulating the Dogmas of New Religion as he. It is amazing how the billions of Christians accept so many of his claims without raising any questions or doubts about his authority.

Paul the Apostle of Paul for Gentiles has been accepted as "De facto" standard by Christians. No one question, whether he really did receive any directions from Jesus or not. So many people think that what Paul is teaching is really what Jesus is teaching. They might not be same.

And the "excuse" that Paul is Jesus's Apostle to Gentiles is very thin. Why should Jesus' teachings to Jews and Non Jews be so different from each other? Why there were two different religions needed so different from each other? And why Jesus himself did not choose "One Gentile Disciples when he chose those twelve disciples"? Already he picked one who became Traitor in the end.

These are the questions we might never get a proper or satisfying reply.

But what about teachings of St. Paul ?

If he was an apostle of Jesus, he should repeat or duplicate what Jesus spoke or taught? But when we go thru the letters of St. Paul as included in the NT, we find that there are almost Zero quotations of Jesus coming from the lips of "This Apostle of Jesus"!! Is it not strange?

And very seldom in his letters he said "These are the things which Jesus said to me in a dream or vision". He just keeps on saying things and putting dogmas, as if there is no restriction on him of any kind. One is amazed at the "free hand" which Jesus gave to This Super Apostle. No one else of his twelve disciples had this "luxury".

It is only John who has taken somewhat similar freedom by putting "his own words" in the mouth of Jesus. But St. Paul has gone one step further. He gives rulings and makes laws as if "He was a Prophet and not an Apostle".

Recently I studied letters of St. Paul and took notes while I was reading and then arranged them topic wise and here I present those notes. It is amazing what I found. And I want to share with you the results. There are short comments from my side on each of the statements made by St. Paul.

I leave it to the people to decide, if St. Paul is really spreading the teachings and message of Jesus or just presenting his own theories and his own ideas and superimposing these on the personality of Jesus, PBUH.
MUQ

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#180673 Jun 21, 2013
Teachings of Paul Part-22

Subject Matter:

Jesus

1Tim. 1- 2

What Paul Wrote?)

May God the father and Christ Jesus our Lord give you grace mercy and peace

Remarks (MUQ)

Equating Jesus with God

Subject Matter:

Jesus

Heb. 1- 2

What Paul Wrote?)

He is the one God appointed heir to all things, since through him he unfolded stages of this world

Remarks (MUQ)

Claim without proof

Subject Matter:

Jesus

Heb. 1-3

What Paul Wrote?)

He is the radiance of God’s glory and bears the stamp of God’s hidden being

Remarks (MUQ)

Again Claims without any proofs.

Subject Matter:

Jesus

Heb. 1- 5

What Paul Wrote?)

To what angels did God say You are my son, I have begotten you today… I shall be a father to him and he will be a son to me

Remarks (MUQ)

Wrong Quote….this does not refer to Jesus
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#180674 Jun 21, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>You are ignorant, and too arrogant yo admit the truth About your religion of Islam, and how it was founded by Muhammad on his worship of the pagan moon god Allah.
Muhammad declared war on Jews and Christians for their rejection of Muhammad's false God.
Every night on this thread you post lies to defend Muhammad's false god.
Every day Muslim thugs are persecuting people and murdering and kidnapping people, and killing them for Muhammad's lies.
You are sick in the head.
The real God creator of the world does not authorize anyone to kill another human being in using His name.
That is why Muslims call their god Allah, because it is not the true God who created the world.
Do you know why I write every day and every night? To refute evil and wicked Christians like you.

I am like Jesus. He did not sit in the company of the educated, the learned and the wise. And yet he sat with idiots and ignorant fools. Right? Why did he do that?

He did that to teach and educate those bloody fools. So, here I am, sitting with you and educating you, debunking your silly and absurd posts. You can consider me your Jesus at Topix.

Truth will never set the Christians free because the true lies form wicked men, hold them firmly in their grasp.

So, why were millions of Jews slaughtered over centuries by Christians in the ugly name of their triune absurd God and Lord Jesus in vain? Explain please.

Give me a very good reason for the killing of Jews by Christians.
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#180675 Jun 21, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>You are ignorant, and too arrogant yo admit the truth About your religion of Islam, and how it was founded by Muhammad on his worship of the pagan moon god Allah.
Muhammad declared war on Jews and Christians for their rejection of Muhammad's false God.
Every night on this thread you post lies to defend Muhammad's false god.
Every day Muslim thugs are persecuting people and murdering and kidnapping people, and killing them for Muhammad's lies.
You are sick in the head.
The real God creator of the world does not authorize anyone to kill another human being in using His name.
That is why Muslims call their god Allah, because it is not the true God who created the world.
Why don't you get the real message?

How can you call your 3-in-1 god, the true God, when it filled the Christians with utmost disdain and hatred against the Jews?

Muhammad never declared was upon the Jews and the Christians. The Christians declared war upon Muslims. They did not declare war upon Jews but killed them without declaring one.

You should worship only the God of Jesus, the God whom Jesus worshipped, prayed and cried to.

Stop worshipping that man, who could not even create a fly or a gnat.

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#180676 Jun 21, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Abd-Al Masih?
This is the problem with Christians. Do you even know what Abd-Al Masih means?
It means Slave or Servant of Jesus. That fool should at least call himself Abd Al Elohim or Abdul Elohim or Abdul Hashem, if he worships the true God.
I suggest he calls himself Abdul Father.
Jesus need not be worshipped because he was a puny man. Worship the Creator not the creature.
Jesus was Abd-Allah or Abdullah, meaning Slave or Servant of Allah, the LORD almighty God.
Muslims should never tell the Christians that their God and the God of Christians is the same.
The Christian God is a Trinity, which is absurd, monstrous and preposterous. It does not exist.
You are sock in the head.
Those that worship Jesus do not advocate the killing of people using His name, like Muslims use the name of their pagan god Allah in killing people.
You refuse to face the reality of Muslim thugs all over the world persecuting, and killing people in the name of their false god Allah.
You are sick in the head in not recognizing that its all because of Muhammad being rejected as a prophet of God.

By the command of Muhammad people are being murdered, and Muslims do this because they in the beginning worshiped the pagan moon god called Allah.

If Muslims worshiped the true God, the creator of the world they would not be out killing people for the sake of God.
For the true God creator of the world forbids the killing of people for his sake.

So you Muslim got to be sick in the head to even think that Muhammad's god Allah is a god at all.
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#180677 Jun 21, 2013
Shamma wrote:
For the true God creator of the world forbids the killing of people for his sake.
So, why did the barbarian Christians slaughter millions of Jews and even burned them alive and boiled them in oil?

Which true God are you talking about?

You do not worship the true God. You worship a 3-in-1 abomination.

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#180678 Jun 21, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Why don't you get the real message?
How can you call your 3-in-1 god, the true God, when it filled the Christians with utmost disdain and hatred against the Jews?
Muhammad never declared was upon the Jews and the Christians. The Christians declared war upon Muslims. They did not declare war upon Jews but killed them without declaring one.
You should worship only the God of Jesus, the God whom Jesus worshipped, prayed and cried to.
Stop worshipping that man, who could not even create a fly or a gnat.
Muslims do not have the real message.
They have the false message of Muhammad.
You are sick in the head Muslim and need to see a mental doctor.

What Christians believe in has no bearing for the cause of Muslims to act as demon possessed wild savage dogs, and commit acts of murder like uncivilized people do.

Muslims are screwed up in the mind, and are a disgrace to our human society.

Jesus did not kill anyone, He gave up His life so that we can be free from the slavery of sin Muslim, but Muslims reject Jesus on the cross and in defiance continue to live their life as sinful wild savage dogs.

There is no justification for Muslims to act as wild savage dogs Muslim.
bmz

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#180679 Jun 21, 2013
@ Shamma

A great quote from an American:

"We should be grateful for Christianity. It gives us something to refute!"

Another about "The truth shall set you free", he writes:

"Without the truth, how can one ever be free of it?"
bmz

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#180680 Jun 21, 2013
Shamma wrote:
He gave up His life so that we can be free from the slavery of sin Muslim, but Muslims reject Jesus on the cross and in defiance continue to live their life as sinful wild savage dogs.
So, who is going to clean up the Evils and Sins of Christianity? Another Jesus?

That would, according my American friend, take hundreds of Christs and hundreds of Gethsemanes.

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#180681 Jun 21, 2013
bmz wrote:
@ Shamma
A great quote from an American:
"We should be grateful for Christianity. It gives us something to refute!"
Another about "The truth shall set you free", he writes:
"Without the truth, how can one ever be free of it?"
Muslims are sick in the head.
You don't have to know religious truth to be civilized.

Atheist don't believe in God yet they are more civilized then Muslims.
So your religious truths have failed to make Muslims civilized.

So there is no justification for Muslims being wild savage uncivilized dogs.
Accept that Muslims are demonic possessed.
And why are Muslims demonic possessed?

Because Muslims believe in a demonic possessed dead man Muhammad and Muhammad's demon possessed god called Allah.

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