Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256620 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

Seeker

Lowell, MA

#180395 Jun 19, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: does not make any difference, whether it is susan or sarah. it even tells you, in TheTorah that the grandmother of this world, runs away with the insanity of the more subtle than any other beast of the fields.
It just says she was tricked by the serpent to eat the fruit of knowledge that she was not supposed to eat. That's all.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#180396 Jun 19, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: you have chosen what you want to believe as true. but from a ball of water, to the same ball of water again is not linear. from Adam to Adam again, is not linear. all time is curved, not linear.
According to the Torah itself, there was a time when the earth was created and a time when it will be destroyed. Period. If you want to add things from advanced Physics theory or whatever, then fine. But do not represent this as being in the Torah because it is NOT. It is only your own theory. You can theorize whatever you want. That's fine. I sometimes do that as well. But quit representing it as being in the Torah when it is NOT. THAT part of your claims is the lie that you tell. Your theories may or may not be true, but stop saying that it is in the Torah and that others are too stupid to see it, because it simply is NOT in the Torah, and you even know that, which is why you continually refuse to quote from it with exact verses and instead choose to dance around the requests that you quote exact verses.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#180397 Jun 19, 2013
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
You told me you are 41 years old. Do you remember that? Boy, you sure went totally grey really fast but even your eyebrows are as dark as we would expect from a 41 year old when we would expect them to be grey as well, if your hair and beard is really as grey as it is in the picture. But let's just forget about that as it doesn't really matter anyway and it's merely a side issue. I think YOU are ridiculous and funny, I do NOT think that God is ridiculous and funny. I do not believe that you have anything more to do with God than anybody else does.
<quoted text>
Jesus was very wise and the wisdom in his answers to their questions astounded people. You do not do that at all. In fact, you have a hard time even putting together a coherent sentence. BIG difference. So I have very good reason to think that you are nothing more than a completely delusional person who needs Psychological counseling. And you have a lot of nerve to tell Susan that she is mentally ill when you are far worse than she is. She can at least put together coherent sentences, and whether I believe her or not, I can at least understand her explanations and they are at least coherent. So if I had to pick whether you or Susan is God or has anything directly to do with God, I would surely pick her. But neither of you are, you both have delusions of grandeur and you both need counseling from a professional Psychologist or Psychiatrist because perhaps medication may even be in order for both of you, but counseling most certainly is.
rabbee: you have no true ears or eyes, of course not. what i said is it was 41 years, between the first and second visit with G-D. i have have had only three visits not going on seventy years. and in fact i did not have any white hair, until after the second visit from G-D. when i also glowed, like an arc lamp. and nobody could get near me, without wearing sun glasses.

well call your jesus christ, ridiculous and funny all you want.

and tell me something here - do you honestly think that psychiatrist are greater to or equal to G-D? do you actually even think, they are true to G-D? why would anyone want any G-Dless minister of the subtle beast, to tell them what is true or not? when you would be even better off, seeing a Baptist or Jewish minister than that. ain't no psychiatrist in this world, going to tell you the truth of G-D. when their livelihood depends on the many know knowing what is true to G-D.

the fact that you would recommend a G-Dless minister, even above an alleged true G-Dly one. tells me you are, so very much deceived. i would never recommend, any G-Dless minister for anyone.

i would recommend, you go see, Rabbee Burt Yellen. who i would trust, more than any of your antiG-D minister selections. He may not have the whole truth, but He does have at least some. enough to get you on, the right track. heck i would even recommend Rabbee Bill Berg, above any of your preferred G-Dless minister selections.

do not tell me, you believe in G-D. while you only believe in recommending antiG-D ministers. you only make a greater mistake, doing that.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#180398 Jun 19, 2013
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
It just says she was tricked by the serpent to eat the fruit of knowledge that she was not supposed to eat. That's all.
rabbee: it says she was tricked, into believing all this worlds antiG-D knowledge. and you are all the bad, knowledge fruit helping mr lizard lips do it again. and it was a lizard, not a snake then. not until he lost his legs, did he become the snake.

and look at all this antiG-D secular knowledge, you are all are so proud of today. the forbidden fruit, is just again. so G-D said, not to eat of the secular, fruit of not here in TheTorah knowledge against HIM.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#180399 Jun 19, 2013
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
According to the Torah itself, there was a time when the earth was created and a time when it will be destroyed. Period. If you want to add things from advanced Physics theory or whatever, then fine. But do not represent this as being in the Torah because it is NOT. It is only your own theory. You can theorize whatever you want. That's fine. I sometimes do that as well. But quit representing it as being in the Torah when it is NOT. THAT part of your claims is the lie that you tell. Your theories may or may not be true, but stop saying that it is in the Torah and that others are too stupid to see it, because it simply is NOT in the Torah, and you even know that, which is why you continually refuse to quote from it with exact verses and instead choose to dance around the requests that you quote exact verses.
rabbee: sorry but G-D, is not a theory or advanced physics to me. but G-D, create and destroy, create and destroy, as many times as it takes. and you already indicated, you never read TheTorah Scroll. so how do you know, if your version is correct? without proof, without your assuming it is the same.

i have already, read TheTorah. i want you to read it, for yourself. cause you obviously are not willing to listen, to who you errantly call as only jesus christ. but you still call me jesus christ, when that name ain't true to G-D in TheTorah.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#180400 Jun 19, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
when i also glowed, like an arc lamp. and nobody could get near me, without wearing sun glasses.
How do you know that? Was somebody near you and told you that you were glowing and they needed sunglasses? I think I've about had enough at this point.
yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
well call your jesus christ, ridiculous and funny all you want.
You aren't Jesus Christ so get that through your psychotic head. I never called Jesus any such thing, I call YOU that. Get it? Get it?

As I said, you can make up whatever theories or stories you want, but stop calling people stupid and telling them that these things are in the Torah when they are NOT. Fair enough?
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#180401 Jun 19, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: it says she was tricked, into believing all this worlds antiG-D knowledge. and you are all the bad, knowledge fruit helping mr lizard lips do it again. and it was a lizard, not a snake then. not until he lost his legs, did he become the snake.
and look at all this antiG-D secular knowledge, you are all are so proud of today. the forbidden fruit, is just again. so G-D said, not to eat of the secular, fruit of not here in TheTorah knowledge against HIM.
Blah blah blah. You have been tested and you have failed miserably. You have claimed that there are things in the Torah when clearly they are not there at all. That's enough evidence for me right there that you are nothing but a mentally ill phony. And it was funny at first, but now it's getting annoying to listen to you glorify yourself while telling everyone else that they know nothing. I would tell you to get a job, but I know you don't even have the mental capacities to even hold one down. So now everyone here has to suffer listening to your crazy, self glorifying diatribes. And your continual refusal to quote specific verses means you are tap dancing, and that smells of dishonesty. So i not only find you to be crazy, I do not even think you are even honest either.
Alex123 WM

London, UK

#180402 Jun 19, 2013
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
Blah blah blah. You have been tested and you have failed miserably. You have claimed that there are things in the Torah when clearly they are not there at all. That's enough evidence for me right there that you are nothing but a mentally ill phony. And it was funny at first, but now it's getting annoying to listen to you glorify yourself while telling everyone else that they know nothing. I would tell you to get a job, but I know you don't even have the mental capacities to even hold one down. So now everyone here has to suffer listening to your crazy, self glorifying diatribes. And your continual refusal to quote specific verses means you are tap dancing, and that smells of dishonesty. So i not only find you to be crazy, I do not even think you are even honest either.
Hello dear MPD nutcase tranny "seeker".

Rabbee is correct about one thing. READ what he said.

You are doing EXACTLY what you are accusing him of:
Making claims that are NOT to be found in the Gospels!

That makes you, using your own words,:
".. nothing but a mentally ill phony. And it was funny at first, but now it's getting annoying to listen to you glorify yourself while telling everyone else that they know nothing. I would tell you to get a job, but I know you don't even have the mental capacities to even hold one down. So now everyone here has to suffer listening to your crazy, self glorifying diatribes. And your continual refusal to quote specific verses means you are tap dancing, and that smells of dishonesty. So i not only find you to be crazy, I do not even think you are even honest either."

I WILL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO REDEEM YOURSELF:
Did JESUS HIMSELF say any of the following in the Gospels? If so please give chapter and verse from Gospels:

1. "I am God in flesh"…………………………Yes/No

2. "I am God!"…………………………Yes/No
3. "I am THE only begotten son of God"..........Yes/No
4. "I am God in person"..........Yes/No
5. "I am God Incarnate"..........Yes/N o
6. "I am THE Father and Father and I are one and the same person"..........Yes/No
7. "I am made of sin"..........Yes/No
8. "God is a trinity and I am part of that trinity or triune"..........Yes/No
9. "I am your God who came to earth in human form as my own son to die on a Roman cross for the sins of Gentiles or the world or the entire humanity/"..........Yes/N o
10. "Through belief in my unconditional/loving/willing sacrifice as your God in human form as my own son, you can have eternal life"..........Yes/No
11. "Therefore, Worship me and the cross"...Yes/No
12. "Father, ghost and I are co equal, co eternal and consubstantial gods forming a godhead".....Yes/No
13.“I, Jesus, existed before God as Word and I, Jesus, became God”.........Yes/No
14.“Hey Philip! I am THE Father..........Yes/No

15. "Worship and kiss the cross and get your pope to kiss it, carry it with him and raise it like Moses' serpent".......Yes/No

16.“My mission is not to bring a book, but to die for sins of GENTILES and JEWS”.........Yes/No.

17. "I am your saviour (dear gentiles)"..........Yes/N o
Alex123 WM

London, UK

#180403 Jun 19, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>He thinks he's Jesus and Adam but harbors doubt, he's not sure if it's a product of his mental illness. Both Jesus and Adam have been reincarnated and it's not him. If he was sure, he wouldn't be ashamed to say it.
Thank you.
It takes all sorts.
Alex123 WM

London, UK

#180404 Jun 19, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>I all ready proved to you that Jesus is the Son of God.
No one is born without a father.
We humans are born from the seed of our human father.
Jesus was born from the Spirit seed of God.
Case closed Alex.
It is IMPOSSIBLE to prove that BJ, who doesn't even have one piece of DNA left on earth, is son of god.
If god were to have a "son", that son will look like "god"..formless, impossible to for humans to see and NOT like a man.
So quit lying.

Adam did not have a father or mother. How about old melchi boy? same.

All non Chistians believe that BJ was born out of wedlock.
ONLY Muslims have a beautiful explanation for his birth.

Your explanation is disgusting. Who screwed the virgin minor? ghost or dirty daddy?

Stop it!

Answer these 17 questions honestly and if you can't, please stop worshipping the flasher on the phallus.

Did JESUS HIMSELF say any of the following in the Gospels? If so please give chapter and verse from Gospels:
1. "I am God in flesh"…………………………Yes/No
2. "I am God!"…………………………Yes/No
3. "I am THE only begotten son of God"..........Yes/No
4. "I am God in person"..........Yes/No
5. "I am God Incarnate"..........Yes/N o
6. "I am THE Father and Father and I are one and the same person"..........Yes/No
7. "I am made of sin"..........Yes/No
8. "God is a trinity and I am part of that trinity or triune"..........Yes/No
9. "I am your God who came to earth in human form as my own son to die on a Roman cross for the sins of Gentiles or the world or the entire humanity/"..........Yes/N o
10. "Through belief in my unconditional/loving/willing sacrifice as your God in human form as my own son, you can have eternal life"..........Yes/No
11. "Therefore, Worship me and the cross"...Yes/No
12. "Father, ghost and I are co equal, co eternal and consubstantial gods forming a godhead".....Yes/No
13.“I, Jesus, existed before God as Word and I, Jesus, became God”.........Yes/No
14.“Hey Philip! I am THE Father..........Yes/No
Bonus points:
15. "Worship and kiss the cross and get your pope to kiss it, carry it with him and raise it like Moses' serpent".......Yes/No
16.“My mission is not to bring a book, but to die for sins of GENTILES and JEWS”.........Yes/No.
Alex123 WM

London, UK

#180405 Jun 19, 2013
El Cid wrote:
Mohammad was a murderer for "Allah." That should be enough to persuade sane people that the man was deluded, at best.
David and Moses were murderers for yhwh? yhvh? elohim? hashem? adonai? g-d?.........
But BJ was a confused coward who got his clowns to sell their under pants to buy swords, but the fools were not trained in the art of swordsmanship!!!
What did they do?
Chop off ear of innocent servant.
When the soldiers turned up, BJ knew that the game was up and urges the clowns to quickly drop their swords!

What a loser, what a turn coat!
Alex123 WM

London, UK

#180406 Jun 19, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Its already been proven Alex.
Its a simple thing.
Either you accept Jesus is the Son of God or you do not.
You have to look at the facts presented By Jesus.
You must decide for self Alex.
You are a grown man.
I read the Quran and decided by my self that it was written by pagan Muslim who wanted to glorify the man Muhammad.
By reason and rational logic I came to the conclusion that the Quran leads Muslims to worship Muhammad on a daily basis every day of their lives.
On the other hand the Gospels written by the Apostles bring people to the knowledge of God, and the worship of God in their daily lives every day.
Muhammad's teaching makes Muslims want to kill people.
The Apostles teaching from Jesus teach people to love on another.
Those are the facts Alex.
And you ignore them.
You proved NOTHING.
You have given NO facts.
Only a fool will accept that BJ is son of god, when Jesus himself NEVER made that claim.
What is wrong with you?
Why do you ignore Jesus and believe liars?
Quran is clear. Jesus is NOT son of God.
Only VERY FEW people now believe that BJ is son of god.
While you are pumping these lies about God, people are ditching Christianity in their millions.
Unfortunately, many are so fed up with your lies that they stopped believing in God.
The Muslims are doing their best to ask these people to worship God.
But with people like you, they become atheists.

Stop pumping lies and ANSWER THESE:
You say "they".
Who were "they"? Please name them.
If you can't even name these people why do you insist on believing them about whom you know nothing?
I repeat...
- Who actually wrote the 4 gospels?
- Prove to me that the writers actually saw BJ die.
- Prove to me that the writers actually saw BJ rise from dead?
- Prove to me that the writers actually saw BJ going to "abraham's bosom"
- Prove to me that the writers actually saw BJ taking believers to paradise.
- who is the father of BJ?
Alex123 WM

London, UK

#180407 Jun 19, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: the only evidence, you find of your, disgusting religion of the subtle beasts in TheTorah, is: "they called me naked".
Where is Eve?
According to therealtorah, she is the bad one.
Alex123 WM

London, UK

#180408 Jun 19, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
You have proved nothing, The entire Christendom has not been able to prove anything, so how can you?
Jesus was born with out a father. Nobody fathered him. He was born only of his mother.
That Jesus was born from the Spirit seed of God, IS Horse Shit. What is this new bull shit "Spirit seed of God"?
The insanity of the polemic Christian mind knows no bounds.
well said, bro!
Only Muslims give a decent explanation for Jesus' birth.
Non Christians and non Muslims believe that BJ was born out of wedlock because joseph was too old to do the needful!
Alex123 WM

London, UK

#180409 Jun 19, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Teachings of Paul Part-21
Subject Matter:
Jesus
Col. 1- 15-17
What Paul Wrote?)
He (Jesus) is the image of the unseen God, and for all creations he is the first born, for him all things were created in heavens and on earth, visible and invisible…..All was made through him and for him. He is before all and all things hold together in him
Remarks (MUQ)
A very tall claim, without any proof.
And this is what our Bible Thumpers, Shamma is one example, quote as if it were God' words!!
Subject Matter:
Jesus
Col. 1- 18-20
What Paul Wrote?)
For he is the first, the first raised from the dead…through him God willed to reconcile all things to himself, and through him, through his blood shed on the cross, God established peace on earth as in heaven
Remarks (MUQ)
Very tall claims, without proof. Was any blood shed on the cross?
good points, brother.
Please keep them coming.
Salaams

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#180410 Jun 19, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Belief in God is a different matter. Believing a man to be the prophet, is another thing.
Believing in a man to be God is something absurd.
Muslims must believe that Muhammad was the Prophet of God.
That is idol worship of Mohammad.

Muhammad further demanded that all true believers fully submit themselves to him and his desires:

But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you (O Muhammad) judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission S. 4:65 Hilali-Khan

Muhammad went so far as to connect obedience to his orders with the forgiveness of sins and Allah’s love, e.g., if a person wants Allah to love him/her and to be forgiven of his/her sins then s/he must perfectly obey Muhammad:

Say (O Muhammad to mankind): "If you (really) love Allah then follow me (i.e. accept Islamic Monotheism, follow the Qur'an and the Sunnah), Allah will love you and forgive you of your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." Say (O Muhammad): "Obey Allah AND the Messenger (Muhammad)." But if they turn away, then Allah does not like the disbelievers. S. 3:31-32 Hilali-Khan

After hearing Muhammad recite these verses, some of his contemporaries accused him of trying to make himself comparable to Jesus in Christian devotion:

(Say) O Muhammad!:(If ye love Allah) and His religion,(follow me) follow my Religion; (Allah will love you) He will increase your love (and forgive you your sins) which were committed when you followed Judaism.(Allah is Forgiving) of whoever repents,(Merciful) towards whoever dies in a state of repentance. This verse was revealed about the Jews who claimed they were the children of Allah and His beloved ones. When this verse was revealed 'Abdullah Ibn Ubayy said:“Muhammad is commanding us to love him as the Christians loved Jesus”, and the Jews said:“Muhammad wants us to take him as a compassionate Lord, just as the Christians took Jesus as a compassionate Lord”.(Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs, Q. 3:31; bold emphasis ours)

These folks could clearly see that Muhammad was commanding his followers to view him as an object of religious worship in the same way that Christians did (still do) with Christ. However, Christians admit that Jesus is God in the flesh, and is therefore worthy of all worship, glory, and honor. Muhammad, on the other hand, is supposed to be an imperfect, fallible human being. To, therefore, fully submit to and perfectly obey him is to give a creature the honor and reverence which belongs only God.

All Muslims worship Muhammad as being equal to Allah.
That is why Muslims follow Muhammad's command to kill the infidels.
Alex123 WM

London, UK

#180411 Jun 19, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
...your alleged jesus, did not have to quote scripture in the way you want. why do you expect me, to do your brainwork for you?......
You have a point.
"Seeker" is unable to find verses from his books to prove his claim about alleged jesus, and yet he is insisting that you find verses from yout thetorah for him!
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#180412 Jun 19, 2013
Alex123 WM wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you.
It takes all sorts.
Yes, just like you, Father Fraud.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#180413 Jun 19, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
This God must be crazy! Who is this crazy God? Has he gone nuts?
Muslims worship a false prophet called Muhammad as being equal to Allah.
Muhammad further demanded that all true believers fully submit themselves to him and his desires:

But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you (O Muhammad) judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission S. 4:65 Hilali-Khan

Muhammad went so far as to connect obedience to his orders with the forgiveness of sins and Allah’s love, e.g., if a person wants Allah to love him/her and to be forgiven of his/her sins then s/he must perfectly obey Muhammad:

Say (O Muhammad to mankind): "If you (really) love Allah then follow me (i.e. accept Islamic Monotheism, follow the Qur'an and the Sunnah), Allah will love you and forgive you of your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." Say (O Muhammad): "Obey Allah AND the Messenger (Muhammad)." But if they turn away, then Allah does not like the disbelievers. S. 3:31-32 Hilali-Khan

After hearing Muhammad recite these verses, some of his contemporaries accused him of trying to make himself comparable to Jesus in Christian devotion:

(Say) O Muhammad!:(If ye love Allah) and His religion,(follow me) follow my Religion; (Allah will love you) He will increase your love (and forgive you your sins) which were committed when you followed Judaism.(Allah is Forgiving) of whoever repents,(Merciful) towards whoever dies in a state of repentance. This verse was revealed about the Jews who claimed they were the children of Allah and His beloved ones. When this verse was revealed 'Abdullah Ibn Ubayy said:“Muhammad is commanding us to love him as the Christians loved Jesus”, and the Jews said:“Muhammad wants us to take him as a compassionate Lord, just as the Christians took Jesus as a compassionate Lord”.(Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs, Q. 3:31; bold emphasis ours)

These folks could clearly see that Muhammad was commanding his followers to view him as an object of religious worship in the same way that Christians did (still do) with Christ. However, Christians admit that Jesus is God in the flesh, and is therefore worthy of all worship, glory, and honor. Muhammad, on the other hand, is supposed to be an imperfect, fallible human being. To, therefore, fully submit to and perfectly obey him is to give a creature the honor and reverence which belongs only God.
Muslims follow Muhammad's command to kill the infidels.

This is a list of targeted acts of terrorism on Christian civilians and church workers by religious Muslims following the command of Muhammad to kill the infidels.

Date Country City/State Killed Injured Description
6/9/2013 Kenya Mombasa 0 17 Suspected Islamists throw a grenade into a church during Sunday service.

6/6/2013 Bangladesh Bolakipur 0 5 Muslim 'extremists' break in to a Catholic seminary and beat the rector and students 'with violence and brutality'.

5/26/2013 Egypt Cairo 1 0 Muslims abduct and kill a 6-year-old Coptic boy.

5/24/2013 Nigeria Gwoza 2 0 A pastor and a church member are brutally slain by Islamist gunmen.

5/24/2013 Nigeria Borno 1 0 Members of Boko Haram murder an elderly Christian woman in her home.

5/22/2013 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A Christian man is gunned down by two men in a targeted attack.

5/19/2013 Pakistan Khushpur 1 3 Angry Muslims fire on a Christian village, killing a teenage student.

5/17/2013 Egypt Alexandria 1 3 A Copt is killed during an assault by a Muslim bomb on a church.

4/4/2013 Pakistan Manga Mandi 1 0 A 20-year-old Christian is shot in the head by Muslims calling their religion 'supreme'.

4/3/2013 Pakistan Gujranwala 0 18 Eighteen Christians are injured by a Muslim mob whipped into a frenzy by a cleric.

4/3/2013 Tanzania Tunduma 2 3 Two Christians are murdered by Muslim extremists for selling non-halal meat
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#180414 Jun 19, 2013
Alex123 WM wrote:
<quoted text>
You have a point.
"Seeker" is unable to find verses from his books to prove his claim about alleged jesus, and yet he is insisting that you find verses from yout thetorah for him!
I am not asking for "exact" words from the Torah, I am asking for the general words that back his claims up. That's the only reason that I ask for quotes from the Torah from him. It doesn't have to be "exact" words that I demand at all, it just has to be something that would lead one to believe that this is what the Torah was actually saying. That's all. He said the Noah came before Adam, but Adam never had a mother, according to the Torah, but Noah did.

And he told you the same thing that I tell you. You are asking for "exact" words that YOU think should have been said, but I ask for no such things from rabbee. So your attempt fails miserably. You are back into stupid little illogical boy land.

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