Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256389 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#175212 May 7, 2013
Seeker wrote:
See folks? Everything that I said they do they are doing right in front of you. Was I wrong? Watch it for yourself. This is how they behave and I even explained why they behave this way.
lol!
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#175213 May 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
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I don't keep track of posts. Scroll back and find the posts.
I explained first and since Christian polemicists cannot understand simple English, as an added info,
I showed you a verse from the Bible "sky hard as a mirror of cast bronze" and you defended it by calling it figurative but you can't understand the figurative language of Qur'aan.
I didn't say that was figurative, I said that Job was a story with a lesson. It's questionable whether it should have been added to the Bible, but since it had a good lesson in it, maybe that's why they added it.
bmz wrote:
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And then I had added somewhere, "What is good for the Christian goose, is also good for the Muslim gander."
It is all there in the posts.
Now tell me how stars can fall on earth according to Revelation?
I said that is a problematic verse. The only thing that anybody could possibly say about it was that John interpreted his vision best way he knew how. Maybe he saw a massive meteor showers and thought they were actual stars. That would match the part where he says like figs are blown off a tree by a strong wind. That's what a massive meteor shower would look like to him.

So are we going to get to 69:16 or is this more of what I described?

Q) did you steal the apple?
A) what about all of the oranges that others steal?

That's exactly what you are trying to do. If you have a hole poked in your boat, you actually attempt to fix it by trying to poke a hole in another boat. But what does that do for your boat?
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#175214 May 7, 2013
Seeker wrote:
See folks? Everything that I said they do they are doing right in front of you. Was I wrong? Watch it for yourself. This is how they behave and I even explained why they behave this way.
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
lol!
And you are doing exactly what I told everyone that Muslims do and confirming how right I am about their behavior. Fake laughter won't make the issue go away.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#175216 May 7, 2013
The four D's of Muslim behavior

Diffuse
Dilute
Deflect
Divert

And it seems as thought they ALL do the same thing in almost the same order. It's like they all had the same exact illogical logic teacher.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#175217 May 7, 2013
Seeker wrote:
Has anybody ever noticed how Jesus referenced past teachings of past prophets, but Muhammad never referenced any of Jesus' teachings nor any other teachings of past prophets? He just retells a story about them and does a rather bad job at it.
First you must realize that Jesus came with nothing new and brought nothing new. After that you must realize that Jesus did not teach and preach anything new.

All the laws and revelations were in place before his arrival and he did not issue anything new.

Jesus was just a teacher, a Rabbi and of course a messenger of God. He simply tried to make religion easy to bear for people.

Muhammad gave a single straight forward story, and you can compare it with the absurd stories in the gospels, which do not even match.

And he came up with something new, which no one had heard before. He refuted and condemned the Trinity and declared that God has no son, which meant that Jesus was not the son of God.

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#175218 May 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Muhammad was not sent to Israel. He does not need to qualify. Jesus was not the seed of David.
Please do not insult Jesus with that vulgarity.
Apostles were dumb and heard of no such thing as the New Covenant. Even Jesus is not on record for talking about the alleged New Covenant. Constantine was the one, who gave the name, "New Testimonies" and others put a spin over it and came with the New Testament and the New Covenant. After that the poor copy of Jewish scriptures in non-scriptural language Greek, was named the Old Testament.
"The blood of the everlasting covenant" is Bull Shit! Once again you can see that there is nothing from Jesus on anything of the junk and stuff spread by the Church.
Then Muhammad is not a prophet from God.
You Muslims bull-shit.
Muhammad is a jinn devil moon god worshiper.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#175219 May 7, 2013
Seeker wrote:
Seeker wrote:
See folks? Everything that I said they do they are doing right in front of you. Was I wrong? Watch it for yourself. This is how they behave and I even explained why they behave this way.
<quoted text>
And you are doing exactly what I told everyone that Muslims do and confirming how right I am about their behavior. Fake laughter won't make the issue go away.
I really laughed at you. I was serious. I meant it.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#175220 May 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Muhammad was not sent to Israel. He does not need to qualify. Jesus was not the seed of David.
Please do not insult Jesus with that vulgarity.
Apostles were dumb and heard of no such thing as the New Covenant. Even Jesus is not on record for talking about the alleged New Covenant.
'The day will come,' says the Lord,'when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and Judah.... But this is the new covenant I will make with the people of Israel on that day,' says the Lord.'I will put my law in their minds, and I will write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people'" (Jeremiah 31:31, 33).

Matthew 5:17
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#175221 May 7, 2013
Shamma wrote:
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Why do Muhammad's followers in certain countries promote stonings, beheadings, amputations, whippings, etc. when this would be against the prophet's teaching?
United States: A Muslim man slaughtered two Coptic Christians in New Jersey. Although authorities believe that "the defendant was ruthless and calculating in the manner in which he carried out the killings and attempted to prevent identification of the victims by cutting off their heads and hands before burying their bodies," it is relevant to note that Koran 8:12 records Allah saying, "I will cast terror into the hearts of infidels, so strike [them] upon the necks [behead them] and strike from them every fingertip." Moreover, as one report puts it, "Privately some wonder if it had something to do with the victims'[Christian] religion."
"it is relevant to note that Koran 8:12 records Allah saying, "I will cast terror into the hearts of infidels, so strike [them] upon the necks [behead them] and strike from them every fingertip."
Why did Muhammad accept that ungodly revelation from Gabriel MUQ?
Why do you want to change the subject of our discussion?

Where is your proof that God spoke to Abraham and Moses?

Unless we finish that discussion, I am not going to enter into another win.

However I see your "Pent up desire" to change the subject.

It was a nice try, but I am not taking the bait!!
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#175222 May 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
I really laughed at you. I was serious. I meant it.
Yeah, whatever. If you say so.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#175223 May 7, 2013
Shamma wrote:
Did Jesus ever say the exact words "I am God?"
by Matt Slick

No, Jesus never said the exact three words, "I am God".
Thank you and Matt Slick. That is enough.

Now, would both of you be so kind to tell us who said that Jesus claimed to be this or that?

And tell us who were the fools, who said that Jesus is God, when he did not say that at all.

So, if I say, "God and I are one", would you consider me God? Or would you be a fool to say that I am claiming to be God?

bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#175224 May 7, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you want to change the subject of our discussion?
Where is your proof that God spoke to Abraham and Moses?
Unless we finish that discussion, I am not going to enter into another win.
However I see your "Pent up desire" to change the subject.
It was a nice try, but I am not taking the bait!!
Shamma will never answer. It is good that you are not allowing him to wriggle out.

Good approach, MUQ.

Salaams
BMZ
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#175225 May 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
First you must realize that Jesus came with nothing new and brought nothing new. After that you must realize that Jesus did not teach and preach anything new.
Matthew 5
31 “It has been said,‘Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’[f] 32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

38 “You have heard that it was said,‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’[h] 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. 41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
Love for Enemies

43 “You have heard that it was said,‘Love your neighbor[i] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

John 8
1 but Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.

2 At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4 and said to Jesus,“Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” 6 They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them,“Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

9 At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10 Jesus straightened up and asked her,“Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”

11 “No one, sir,” she said.

“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared.“Go now and leave your life of sin.”

Since: Apr 11

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#175226 May 7, 2013
Muhammad and jinn devils in the Quran.
http://religionresearchinstitute.org/quran/ji...
uhuh

Madrid, Spain

#175227 May 7, 2013
"On what were the earth's sockets sunk?
Who shut up the sea with doors?
Have you come to the storehouses of snow?
Who brings down the pitchers of heaven?"

read the Book of Job in Hebrew -- a poetry masterpiece

"When the horn is blown with a single blast.
And the heaven will split, that day it is frail.
And the angels will be at its edges, eight will bear the throne of your Lord."

read Quran 69 in Arabic -- a magnificent poetry

both use POETIC LANGUAGE
uhuh

Madrid, Spain

#175228 May 7, 2013
Seeker wrote:
Has anybody ever noticed how Jesus referenced past teachings of past prophets
lol he contradicted them all,
"I and the Father are one! Before Abraham was born, I am!"

if Abraham and Moses heard Jesus saying that, they would bitch-slap him till he cried out to his Father
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#175229 May 7, 2013
uhuh wrote:
"On what were the earth's sockets sunk?
Who shut up the sea with doors?
Have you come to the storehouses of snow?
Who brings down the pitchers of heaven?"
read the Book of Job in Hebrew -- a poetry masterpiece
"When the horn is blown with a single blast.
And the heaven will split, that day it is frail.
And the angels will be at its edges, eight will bear the throne of your Lord."
read Quran 69 in Arabic -- a magnificent poetry
both use POETIC LANGUAGE
If it is merely poetic, and not literal, then let's take a look at these.

55:37 (Y. Ali) When the sky is rent asunder, and it becomes red like ointment:

73:17 (Y. Ali) Then how shall ye, if ye deny ((Allah)), guard yourselves against a Day that will make children hoary-headed?-
73:18 (Y. Ali) Whereon the sky will be cleft asunder? His Promise needs must be accomplished.

77:8 (Y. Ali) Then when the stars become dim;
77:9 (Y. Ali) When the heaven is cleft asunder;
77:10 (Y. Ali) When the mountains are scattered (to the winds) as dust;

So I guess the stars will not become dim and the mountains will not be scattered. All poetic, right?

82:1 (Y. Ali) When the Sky is cleft asunder;
82:2 (Y. Ali) When the Stars are scattered;
82:3 (Y. Ali) When the Oceans are suffered to burst forth;

The oceans won't burst forth, right? All poetic.

84:1 (Y. Ali) When the sky is rent asunder,
84:2 (Y. Ali) And hearkens to (the Command of) its Lord, and it must needs (do so);-
84:3 (Y. Ali) And when the earth is flattened out,

The earth will not be flattened out, right?

so the stars will not dim, the mountains will not be flattened out and the oceans will not burst forth.

Poetic? Figurative?

Seeker

Lowell, MA

#175230 May 7, 2013
uhuh wrote:
<quoted text>
lol he contradicted them all,
"I and the Father are one! Before Abraham was born, I am!"
if Abraham and Moses heard Jesus saying that, they would bitch-slap him till he cried out to his Father
Who says? They just listened to what God was telling them and followed whatever they were told, they didn't make any decisions on their own.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#175231 May 7, 2013
Shamma wrote:
Muhammad and jinn devils in the Quran.
http://religionresearchinstitute.org/quran/ji...
Shamma aren't you repeating the same things?

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#175232 May 7, 2013
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
Matthew 5
31 “It has been said,‘Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’[f] 32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

38 “You have heard that it was said,‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’[h] 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. 41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

Love for Enemies
43 “You have heard that it was said,‘Love your neighbor[i] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

John 8
1 but Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.
2 At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4 and said to Jesus,“Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” 6 They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.
But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them,“Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
9 At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10 Jesus straightened up and asked her,“Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”
11 “No one, sir,” she said.
“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared.“Go now and leave your life of sin.”
I like the contents in Matthew 5-7 and one can see him acting like a Rabbi or a teacher. That was nothing new.

In Matthew 5:31, one can see clearly that Jesus agrees on divorcing a wife for sexual immorality but not for domestic quarrels and the nitty gritty.

Regarding Matthew 5:38, Jesus did not practice what he preached. When he was slapped, he did not turn the other cheek and instead asked, "Why did you strike me?"

Regarding Matthew 5:43, I have always asked, "Where was it said “You have heard that it was said,‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’"?

To me, it is something absurd and I don't think Jesus said that. Now, if he had really said that, then start loving Muslims, whom you consider your enemy.

Regarding John 8, I do not wish to write on that preposterous story, which cannot be found in any ancient manuscripts.

*****[The most ancient Greek manuscripts do not include John 7:53–8:11.]*****

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...

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