Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Brussels Journal

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Who is sent to Hell?

In Islam people are sent to Hell for not believing in God. Unfortunately this is a vague reason, as in Islam it is not immediately clear who is a believer and who is not. Different schools of thought offer different explanations as to what is qualifies one as a believer. The following verse from the Qur'an may shed some light on the issue:

Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the converts; anyone who (1) believes in GOD, and (2) believes in the Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.(Qur'an 5:69)

While Shia, Sufi, and Submitter schools of thought agree that the above verse proves Jews and Christians can go to heaven, Sunnis strongly disagree. Most Sunnis will state that the above verse has been abrogated by the following one:

And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.(Qur'an 3:85)

While Rashad Khalifa, founder of the Submitter sect, argued that Islam was Arabic for "submission (to God)" and therefore included Jews and Christians, Orthodox Sunni Muslims rejected such a possibility. Furthermore, teachers of Sunni law have argued that "Islam" means Sunni Islam only, and sects such as Shia, Ahmedi, Sufi, Qadianni, et cetera, will also be sent to Hell. In trying to explain why all the other sects are displeasing to Allah, Sunnis offer the following verse from the Qur'an:

Do not be like those who split up their religion and became sects, they invented new things in the religion (bid'ah) and followed their vain desires, each sect rejoicing in that which is with it.(Qur'an 30:31-32)

Sunnis make up roughly 90% of all Muslims, and have thoroughly oppressed the much smaller sects. Rashad Khalifa himself was murdered in 1990 while visiting a Mosque in Arizona. Shias are the targets of much violence in Pakistan, and it is actually against the law to be a Shia in Malaysia! Many Islamic Sheikhs speak out against Sufi Islam, and countless Sunni religious leaders openly preach violence against those of the Ahmedi and Qadianni sects. Such oppression is easily accepted by Sunnis, as they believe they are punishing heretics, whom God himself hates. This is especially true of Shias, as many Sunnis believe that Shia Islam was started by the Jews.
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Punishments of Hell
1. Hell is so deep that if a stone were to be thrown into, it would travel for 70 years to reaching at the bottom.
2. The breadth of each of the four walls around Hell is equivalent to a distance covered by a walking journey of 40 years.
3. Hell has 7 gates.
4. Hell had been lit for one thousand years until its flames became red. Again it was heated for another thousand years till its colour became white. Still again it was burnt for further thousand years and its white color flames turned pitch black.
5. Even the fiercest fire of this world is 70 fold cooler than the fire of Hell.
6. The lightest punishment in Hell would be the wearing of ?Fiery shoes" which would cause one's brain to boil.
7. Hell in infested with venomous donkeys and if they were to bite a person then he or she will suffer pain for 40 years.
8. For food, the dweller of Hell would be given Zaqqum which is a prickly tree, so bitter, that even if a single molecule of it were to spill onto this earth it would make all the foodstuff of the world bitter and unpalatable.
9. For drinking, the denizen of Hell would be provided with hot, boiling pus mixed with blood, matter, urine and tears etc. of the dwellers of Hell. If a bucket of this foul liquid were to be splashed over this earth, the entire world would be upset and disrupted by its most foul stink.
10. Boiling water would be poured over Jahannami's head and this will cause their internal organs to melt and leak out through their feet.
11. The inmates of Hell would be lashed with heavy clubs of iron. If one such club was to be placed upon this earth, the combined strength of all the human beings, as well as all the Jinns, would fail to lift it; and if a mountain is struck with one of these clubs it would cause the whole mountain to disintegrate.
12. The dwellers of Hell would be burnt daily for 70 thousand times.. Every time, after the skin and flesh is burnt; they would be restored to life so that they can continuously taste this punishment.
13. A drunkard will be given blood, pus, sweat, filth, etc.. to drink in hell.
14. All the haughty people will be gathered in the Hereafter and driven towards Hell but their bodies would be reduced to the size of ants and they will be given to consume the excretions of the dwellers of Hell.
15. Some sinners would be made to climb ?SAUD? which is a mountain of fire in Hell, and then dropped from its peak and this process would continue forever and ever.
16. The dwellers of Hell would be pound in chains which would be greater in length than the distance between the sky and the earth.
17. The clothes of sinners in Hell would be highly inflammable.
18. Beside physical torture, the dwellers of Hell would also be subjected to mental harassment through the taunting by the guardian of Hell who will remind them of their misdeed on earth and remarks "Now taste the fire" etc.
19. The sinners and disbelievers would be humiliated to such an extent that besides their revolting ugliness and pitch black faces, their upper lips would be touching their foreheads and the lower lip dangling around the navel.
20.. The dwellers of Hell would weep so much and shed so much of tears and blood that furrows would be formed on their cheeks.
21. The tongues of Hell-inmates would be so long and protruding from there mouths that others would trample and step on them.
22. Shayateen will also rebuke the denizens of Hell.
23. The dwellers of Hell would display their rage and fury on those who led them astray.
24. The inhabitants of Hell would appeal to the guardians of Jahannam to intercede on their behalf in the court of Allah but their pleas would reject. They would make direct supplication to Allah but their prayers would not be granted.
25. They will then abide forever in Hell, continuously lamenting and braying like asses (jungle animals).
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Being a "yogi" is NO big deal.

Your swami vivek is known to a few...but the "non yogi" is loved by billions.

You really ought to remove those rose tinted yogi glasses.
Sensible people evaluate an individual on the basis of his achievements.

In the spiritual sphere, Muhammad is a pygmy, a most perverted and a most evil man.

Besides, a religion is not great because of the number of followers it commands, remember that a religion is great on account of its superior or elevated teachings.

Islam cannot claim to be a superior religion since there's nothing but rubbish and violence to be found in its teachings.
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"Mohammed was an absolutely illiterate man, and the Koran, in which his sayings are collected, is ninety-nine percent rubbish. You can just open the book anywhere and read it, and you will be convinced of what I am saying. I am not saying on a certain page — anywhere. You just open the book accidentally, read the page and you will be convinced of what I am saying. Whatsoever one percent truth there is here and there in the Koran is not Mohammed's. It is just ordinary, ancient wisdom that uneducated people collect easily simply by hearing the old people"

Osho (Rajneesh)
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"Muslims have been asking me,'Why don't you speak on the Koran? You have spoken on The Bible, on the Gita, this and that.' I could not say to them that it is all rubbish; I simply went on postponing. Even just before I went into silence, a Muslim scholar sent the latest English version of the Koran, praying me to speak on it. But now I have to say that it is all rubbish, that is why I have not spoken on it — because why unnecessarily waste time?"

- From Unconciousness to Consciousness

Chapter 5 by Osho (Rajneesh)
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(ROFL LMAO LOL)
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What a foolish question, Mahmood!
And if I write that the biblical Jesus was possessed by demons, would you ask me a similar question?
I couldn't care less about your opinion of Jesus, all I am asking is where in the Koran does it say "made in Rome" as you claimed or is this one of your own assertions.
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JOEL wrote:
Martin Luther referred to Muhammad as "a devil and first-born child of Satan".
ML was worshipping Satan.
Devil to a Satan worshipper is G-d to believers.

How is all the expensive eating going?
Are yogis allowed to eat expensive crap while their neighbours starve?

Is the most expensive Sea lounge main course 1200 rupees?
(Creole Spiced Prawns, Stir Fried Greens and Mushrooms – Citrus Beurre Blanc)

That is about £14!!

This is the poor man's savoy grill:
Can we start with..
Oscietra caviar with warm blinis and sour cream - 50g £140.00 (12,000 rupees?)

This is a rough idea of a simple mains at Claridges excluding cover charge & gratuity..£45 (4,000 rupees?)

Not too bad eh.
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JOEL wrote:
"Mohammed was an absolutely illiterate man, and the Koran, in which his sayings are collected, is ninety-nine percent rubbish. You can just open the book anywhere and read it, and you will be convinced of what I am saying. I am not saying on a certain page — anywhere. You just open the book accidentally, read the page and you will be convinced of what I am saying. Whatsoever one percent truth there is here and there in the Koran is not Mohammed's. It is just ordinary, ancient wisdom that uneducated people collect easily simply by hearing the old people"
Osho (Rajneesh)
You are a gullible little boy.
That rajneesh is 100 times worse than your master!
His con-Oregon commune collapsed in 1985 after havingcommitted a number of serious crimes, including a bioterror attack (food contamination) on the citizens of The Dalles.
He was arrested shortly afterwards and charged with immigration violations.
The crook was deported from the United States in accordance with a plea bargain.
Twenty-one countries denied him entry, causing the crook to travel the world before returning to Poona, where he died in 1990 a the ripe old age of 58 having briefly visited planet earth! LOL.
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JOEL wrote:
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Sensible people evaluate an individual on the basis of his achievements.
In the spiritual sphere, Muhammad is a pygmy, a most perverted and a most evil man.
Besides, a religion is not great because of the number of followers it commands, remember that a religion is great on account of its superior or elevated teachings.
Islam cannot claim to be a superior religion since there's nothing but rubbish and violence to be found in its teachings.
Yes, sensible people don't get their ass pierced by fake "masters"
You have been wrong many times.
Hope one day you will accept that Holy Prophet Muhammed was the greatest human ever.
Take it easy.
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Thomas Aquinas wrote:
http://www.123muslim.com/hell- jahannum/227-punishments-hell. html
Punishments of Hell
1. Hell is so deep that if a stone were to be thrown into, it would travel for 70 years to reaching at the bottom.
2. The breadth of each of the four walls around Hell is equivalent to a distance covered by a walking journey of 40 years.
3. Hell has 7 gates.
4. Hell had been lit for one thousand years until its flames became red. Again it was heated for another thousand years till its colour became white. Still again it was burnt for further thousand years and its white color flames turned pitch black.
5. Even the fiercest fire of this world is 70 fold cooler than the fire of Hell.
6. The lightest punishment in Hell would be the wearing of ?Fiery shoes" which would cause one's brain to boil.
7. Hell in infested with venomous donkeys and if they were to bite a person then he or she will suffer pain for 40 years.
8. For food, the dweller of Hell would be given Zaqqum which is a prickly tree, so bitter, that even if a single molecule of it were to spill onto this earth it would make all the foodstuff of the world bitter and unpalatable.
9. For drinking, the denizen of Hell would be provided with hot, boiling pus mixed with blood, matter, urine and tears etc. of the dwellers of Hell. If a bucket of this foul liquid were to be splashed over this earth, the entire world would be upset and disrupted by its most foul stink.
10. Boiling water would be poured over Jahannami's head and this will cause their internal organs to melt and leak out through their feet.
11. The inmates of Hell would be lashed with heavy clubs of iron. If one such club was to be placed upon this earth, the combined strength of all the human beings, as well as all the Jinns, would fail to lift it; and if a mountain is struck with one of these clubs it would cause the whole mountain to disintegrate.
12. The dwellers of Hell would be burnt daily for 70 thousand times.. Every time, after the skin and flesh is burnt; they would be restored to life so that they can continuously taste this punishment.
13. A drunkard will be given blood, pus, sweat, filth, etc.. to drink in hell.
14. All the haughty people will be gathered in the Hereafter and driven towards Hell but their bodies would be reduced to the size of ants and they will be given to consume the excretions of the dwellers of Hell.
15. Some sinners would be made to climb ?SAUD? which is a mountain of fire in Hell, and then dropped from its peak and this process would continue forever and ever.
16. The dwellers of Hell would be pound in chains which would be greater in length than the distance between the sky and the earth.
17. The clothes of sinners in Hell would be highly inflammable.
18. Beside physical torture, the dwellers of Hell would also be subjected to mental harassment through the taunting by the guardian of Hell who will remind them of their misdeed on earth and remarks "Now taste the fire" etc.
19. The sinners and disbelievers would be humiliated to such an extent that besides their revolting ugliness and pitch black faces, their upper lips would be touching their foreheads and the lower lip dangling around the navel.
20.. The dwellers of Hell would weep so much and shed so much of tears and blood that furrows would be formed on their cheeks.
21. The tongues of Hell-inmates would be so long and protruding from there mouths that others would trample and step on them.
22. Shayateen will also rebuke the denizens of Hell.
23. The dwellers of Hell would display their rage and fury on those who led them astray.
24. The inhabitants of Hell would appeal to the guardians of Jahannam to intercede on their behalf in the court of Allah but their pleas would reject. They would make direct supplication to Allah but their prayers would not be granted.
25. They will then abide forever in Hell, continuously lamenting and braying like asses (jungle animals).
You will like it there, buttered buford.
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Muhammad is not fit to tie the shoe laces of Buddha.
LOL!!!!
Hey fool...Buddha didn't wear lace top shoes!
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Eat your shorts Alex.
Jesus was not created. He existed from eternity along with God the Father.
John 1:3
contains two direct statements that tell us that it was the preexistent Jesus who created all things. "All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made." Notice that John is not content to say only that all things were made through Him, but John adds the fact that "without Him nothing was made."
Paul confirms exactly what John wrote: "For by Him all things were created." Paul goes on to make sure that we understand what he means by all things—"that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him" (Colossians 1:16
).
Since Jesus created all things, He could not have been one of the "created things." Paul then adds, so there can be no mistake, "He is before all things, and in him all things hold together" (verse 17, NIV).
Dr. Norman Geisler comments: "The context of this passage makes it clear that there are no exceptions; Christ is the Creator of all things including angels and everything visible or invisible. Nowhere is this made more clear that Christ is not a creature—angelic or otherwise—than in the relation of angels to Him. Since Christ could not be both the Creator of everything and at the same time a creature Himself, it is necessary to conclude that He is Himself the uncreated Creator of all creation" ( Christian Apologetics, 1988, p. 338).
He adds a footnote: "In view of the clear teaching that Christ is Creator and not a creature, the Arian misinterpretations of phrases like Christ is 'firstborn'(Colossians 1:15
) or 'beginning of creation'(Revelation 3:14
) are wrong. Christ is 'firstborn' in the sense of being the unique (not created) Son of God. Christ is first over creation, not first in it" (ibid.).
Micah 5:2
stated that the messianic King to come was "from everlasting." Jesus had appeared in His divine life before His human birth as the priest-king Melchizedek (see Hebrews 7), "having neither beginning of days nor end of life" (verse 3).(Download or request our free booklet Who Is God? to learn more.)
Jesus was not created. He existed from eternity along with God the Father.
BJ was made inside his mother's belly, you ignorant person!
Was he put inside her as a mini man with beard and dick?
He went through each stage of development...he had a tail too at some point...
Do you want a lesson in embryology?

BJ was CREATED!

G-D is UNCREATED.
BJ is NOT G-d.
BJ NEVER made any DIRECT claim to divinity.
Wake up....

Now tell me if this is acceptable to trinitarians?

"O Lord! You are the Trinity. You are the sacred power that is the source and sustainer of the universe. You are all this".

ANSWER PLEASE!!!!
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Alex123 WM wrote:
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You will like it there, buttered buford.
You would believe that stupid nonsense, ex-lax.
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Hope one day you will accept that Holy Prophet Muhammed was the greatest human ever.
http://www.opusdeialert.com/st-thomas-aquinas...

St. Thomas Aquinas' Teaching Against the Infidel Mohammed

"He (Mohammed) seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure to which the concupiscence of the flesh urges us. His teaching also contained precepts that were in conformity with his promises, and he gave free rein to carnal pleasure. In all this, as is not unexpected; he was obeyed by carnal men. As for proofs of the truth of his doctrine, he brought forward only such as could be grasped by the natural ability of anyone with a very modest wisdom. Indeed, the truths that he taught he mingled with many fables and with doctrines of the greatest falsity.

He did not bring forth any signs produced in a supernatural way, which alone fittingly gives witness to divine inspiration; for a visible action that can be only divine reveals an invisibly inspired teacher of truth. On the Contrary, Mohammed said that he was sent in the power of his arms - which are signs not lacking even to robbers and tyrants. What is more, no wise men, men trained in things divine and human, believed in him from the beginning (1). Those who believed in him were brutal men and desert wanderers, utterly ignorant of all divine teaching, through whose numbers Mohammed forced others to become his follower's by the violence of his arms. Nor do divine pronouncements on part of preceding prophets offer him any witness. On the contrary, he perverts almost all the testimony of the Old and the New Testaments by making them into a fabrication of his own, as can be seen by anyone who examines his law. It was, therefore, a shrewd decision on his part to forbid his followers to read the Old and New Testaments, lest these books convict him of falsity. It is thus clear that those who place faith in his words believe foolishly." - Summa Contra Gentiles, Book 1, Chapter 16, Art. 4. Footnote: 1. Sura 21:5, Sura 44:14; Sura 16:103, Sura 37:36
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How interesting, and damning, that Mohammad forbade his followers to read the Old and New Testaments, "lest these books convict him of falsity."

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I couldn't care less about your opinion of Jesus, all I am asking is where in the Koran does it say "made in Rome" as you claimed or is this one of your own assertions.
Silly question again, Mahmood!

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Neither God is a Trinity nor Trinity is God, Shamma.
Trinity is unholy and Horse Shit.
If it were true, it should have come from Jesus, not from clueless bloody ignorant pagan fools, who came 300 plus years after Jesus had turned to dust and bones.
You are only fooling your self.
You been told a lie by Muhammad.
Muhammad sold his soul to the devil.
There must be millions of Muslims possessed by their god Allah's jinn devils.
A real Muslim possessed by a jinn devil shown on this link that exposes the Muslim god Allah as Satan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Swami Vivekananda wrote in his 1896 book Raja Yoga that though Muhammad was inspired, "he was not a trained Yogi, nor did he know the reason of what he was doing." Vivekananda wrote that great evil has been done through Muhammad's fanaticism with "whole countries destroyed" and "millions upon millions of people killed."
Horse Shit!

What a Lying fool! Stop bull shitting! Swami Vivekananda was a decent and a great man, not a low-class liar like you.

Ever read the book "Teachings of Swami Vivekananda"?

Ignorant Fool, this is what Swami Vivekananda told his American audience:
“Mohammed – the Messenger of equality. You ask,‘What good can there be in his religion?’ If there was no good, how could it live? The good alone lives, that alone survives… How could Mohammedanism have lived, had there been nothing good in its teachings? There is much good.”

“Mohammed by his life showed that amongst the Mohammedans there should be perfect equality and brotherhood. There was no question of race, caste, colour or sex.

The Sultan of Turkey may buy a Negro from the mart of Africa, and bring him in chains to Turkey; but should he become a Mohammedan, and have sufficient merit and abilities, he might even marry the daughter of the Sultan.

Compare this with the way in which Negroes and the American Indians are treated in this country (the United States of America)!

And what do Hindus do? If one of your missionaries chances to touch the food of an orthodox person, he would throw it away.”

Compare this with the way in which so-called low caste people are still treated in India. Temples, restaurants, marriages, jobs are ruled by caste considerations.

It is not surprising that these caste idiocies have now made the once-downtrodden very powerful vote banks. It’s the upper castes who now buy low caste certificates for their survival. Vivekananda had warned of this revenge of history. Vivekananda would be a Dalit and Muslim leader today.

As he told the Americans,“As soon as a man becomes a Mohammedan, the whole of Islam receives him as a brother with open arms, without making any distinction, which no other religion does.

If one of your American Indians becomes a Mohammedan, the Sultan of Turkey would have no objection to dine with him.

If he has brains, no position is barred to him. In this country, I have never yet seen a church where the white man and the Negro can kneel side by side to pray.”

“It is a mistaken statement that has been made to us that the Mohammedans do not believe that women have souls…I am not a Mohammedan, but yet I have had opportunities for studying them, and there is not one word in the Koran which says that women have no souls, but in fact it says they have.” That would get Vivekananda a nationwide Hindu-Muslim women’s vote bank.

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Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>You are only fooling your self.
You been told a lie by Muhammad.
Muhammad sold his soul to the devil.
There must be millions of Muslims possessed by their god Allah's jinn devils.
Shamma,

The founding fathers of the Church were the men, who sold their souls to Satan. And they became Satan's minions and stock.

Satan owned them and continues to own the Church and the Pope.

If you wish to sell Trinity junk and stuff on the forum, you will have to show Jesus teaching, preaching and selling that rotten stuff. Can you do that?

Trinity is a post-Jesus revenge of Satan against God and the servant Jesus.

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