Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Brussels Journal

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Truth about the The Black Stone Muhammad kissed.
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The Jewish leaders knew Jesus said He would rise in three days had the Romans place guards around the tomb. But Jesus rose as He said He would. Praise be to our Lord and God, Jesus the Christ!!!
What happend to mohammad? His enemies triumphed over him by poisioning him. Now he lies rotting in the gave, while God said He would not let His holy one undergo corruption.
Even his own disciples did not know and neither remembered. So, how can you say that the Jewish leaders knew? They knew nothing. Jesus hardly stayed 36 hours in the tomb, according to the story.

Every human rots in grave and turns to dust and bones. Jesus and Muhammad were no exception.

Jesus is also dead, dust and bones, so let him rest in peace.
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Jesus was not buried. OK? He was also not laid to rest. Do you even know the difference between "laid" and "laid to rest"?
According to three gospels, Joseph wrapped up his 'body' in clean cloth. No 75 pound spice marination, as was the so-called "custom" by Johns.
Now read what Johns have offered:
" Later, Joseph of Arimathea asked Pilate for the body of Jesus. Now Joseph was a disciple of Jesus, but secretly because he feared the Jewish leaders.
With Pilate’s permission, he came and took the body away. He was accompanied by Nicodemus, the man who earlier had visited Jesus at night.
Nicodemus brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds.
Taking Jesus’ body, the two of them wrapped it, with the spices, in strips of linen. This was in accordance with Jewish burial customs."
What was John reporting? Marinating Jesus?
How can you trust such conflicting and absurd accounts. I think some lying spirits were inspiring each writer.
St John was at the crucifixion and burial so his is an eye witness account. The other three Gospel writers did not go into detail on the burial.
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The guards witnessed Jesus' resurrection and the angels, who muslims say can not lie, told the women Jesus had risen.
Nobody saw and nobody witnessed Jesus being resurrected!

The best place for him to get resurrected was the cross, where he is alleged to have been killed and a multitude would have witnessed.

Resurrection in private is not convincing and carries no weight. Even the disciples did not believe the women and even Peter was not impressed.

After visiting the tomb, Peter WENT BACK HOME WONDERING WAHT HAD HAPPENED, according to Aesop's great great great great grand grandfather Luke!!!
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Even his own disciples did not know and neither remembered. So, how can you say that the Jewish leaders knew? They knew nothing. Jesus hardly stayed 36 hours in the tomb, according to the story.
Every human rots in grave and turns to dust and bones. Jesus and Muhammad were no exception.
Jesus is also dead, dust and bones, so let him rest in peace.
Jesus fortold His resurrection after three days and the Jewish leaders knew this and thus asked the Romans to put a guard on the tomb. How many people did the Romans put guards on the tomb; in fact curcified victims were not normally buried but let to rot on the cross.

God said He would not let His Holy One rot in the grave and so Jesus rose from the dead; while mohammad rotted in the grave; killed by his enemies.
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Nobody saw and nobody witnessed Jesus being resurrected!
The best place for him to get resurrected was the cross, where he is alleged to have been killed and a multitude would have witnessed.
Resurrection in private is not convincing and carries no weight. Even the disciples did not believe the women and even Peter was not impressed.
After visiting the tomb, Peter WENT BACK HOME WONDERING WAHT HAD HAPPENED, according to Aesop's great great great great grand grandfather Luke!!!
The guards witnessed Jesus' resurrection and the angels, who muslims say can not lie, told the women Jesus had risen.
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Nobody saw and nobody witnessed Jesus being resurrected!
The best place for him to get resurrected was the cross, where he is alleged to have been killed and a multitude would have witnessed.
Resurrection in private is not convincing and carries no weight. Even the disciples did not believe the women and even Peter was not impressed.
After visiting the tomb, Peter WENT BACK HOME WONDERING WAHT HAD HAPPENED, according to Aesop's great great great great grand grandfather Luke!!!
After resurrection He was seen by many. St Thomas proclaimed when He saw Jesus after His resurrection: "My Lord and by God!!!"
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St John was at the crucifixion and burial so his is an eye witness account. The other three Gospel writers did not go into detail on the burial.
Another lie!

Who told you that John was at his burial? He was not even there. Even the gospel, according to John does not say that.

John was neither present at the 'burial' nor present at the time of the alleged resurrection.
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Paul WV wrote:
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Jesus fortold His resurrection after three days and the Jewish leaders knew this and thus asked the Romans to put a guard on the tomb. How many people did the Romans put guards on the tomb; in fact curcified victims were not normally buried but let to rot on the cross.
God said He would not let His Holy One rot in the grave and so Jesus rose from the dead; while mohammad rotted in the grave; killed by his enemies.
I have already addressed that:

Even his own disciples did not know and neither remembered. So, how can you say that the Jewish leaders knew? They knew nothing. Jesus hardly stayed 36 hours in the tomb, according to the story.

Every human rots in grave and turns to dust and bones. Jesus and Muhammad were no exception.

Jesus is also dead, dust and bones, so let him rest in peace.

Anyway, Jesus also rotted in his grave. He was no exception.
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@ Paul

Can you please start reading the gospels?

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Where is the "Guard's testimony"?
Who interviewed him?
Again we have an element of Hearsay!!
The entire Christianity is based on Hearsay.
The most important events have no eyewitness:
Jesus' Crucifixtion: No eye witness
Jesus' resurrection: No eye witness
Jesus' selection of Paul as his "Chief Spokes person: No eye witness.
And yet every thing in Christainity is Divine!!
Correct enough, but I don't understand the double standard here.

The entire Islam is based on self claim of a person who said to have received revelations from god.

Muhammad's revelations: no eye witness
The angel messenger: no eye witness

The chapter's order of Quran is totally a mess.

And yet everything in Quran is Divine!!

Another case of pot calling kettle black.

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Can you please start reading the gospels?
Here your own corrupted version of Adam and Eve stolen and Corrupted and placed in the Quran by Muhammad.

Stolen from Gods Holy Bible and corrupted and placed in the Quran by Muhammad.
The Story Of Adam and Eve

The story of Adam and Eve is told in the Qur’an. Although it is similar in many ways to what is found in the surviving remnants of the previous scriptures, some important principles differ.

God announced to the angels that He was placing a new specie on earth. God created Adamp, fashioning him from clay. He breathed the soul into Adamp, taught him the names of all things, and created from the same soul his wife, Eve. God allowed them to dwell in Paradise with free will. God said to the angels,“Bow down to Adam”(They did so in a form of respect, not worship). Satan was present among the angels, though he was not one of them. He was of the jinn, a race of beings possessing free will that God created before Adamp from a smokeless flame of fire. When God ordered the angels and those in their company to bow down to Adamp, they all did so except Satan, who refused out of pride and arrogance, claiming to be better than Adamp because he was created from fire, whereas Adamp was created from clay. Indeed, Satan was the first racist.

Satan fell from God’s grace. God, The Reckoner, condemned him for his disobedience, but Satan, the accursed, asked God to give him respite until the Day of Judgment (resurrection), so he could make Adamp and his descendants unworthy. Satan said,“Verily I will mislead them and surely I will arouse in them vain desires.” God granted him this respite as a trial for humanity. God knows what Satan knows not. It is important to note that there is no way Satan could ever “war” with God, because just like everything else, he is God’s creation. Satan exists only by God’s will; he is completely under God’s power. If God did not want Satan or his helpers to exist, they would not be able to remain in existence for even a moment.

Islam does not give Satan any share of God’s divinity. It does not attribute to him any godlike or divine qualities. Islam rejects the notion that Satan went to war with God and took a third of the hosts of Heaven with him. Satan is an avowed enemy of humanity, but he is merely a creature, absolutely dependent upon God for his very existence.

Though prideful, accursed, and fallen from the grace of God, Satan serves a purpose. God wanted humans to have free choice between right and wrong. He granted human beings an innate ability to recognize The Creator and turn to Him. The human being is considered to be originally good by nature, born pure in the state of Islam (submission). Satan and his hosts order evil and oppose good, seeking to misguide humanity, his avowed enemy, into evil and idolatry, away from monotheism, righteousness, and the path of God. God, The All Wise, invites Muslims to enjoin good and forbid evil. Because we exercise free will, by resisting the temptation of Satan, humans can attain a great level of honor.

The following is a summary of the trial of Adam and Eve in Paradise: They enjoyed perfect freedom and happiness in Paradise. God told them to eat of the fruits of the Garden with pleasure and delight as they pleased. He forbade them from approaching one tree, and warned them that if they did, they will both be of the wrongdoers. Satan came and deceived them, saying that God only forbade them from eating of that tree because it would make them immortal or they would become like the angels. They were thus deceived by Satan and ate of the tree.
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Correct enough, but I don't understand the double standard here.
The entire Islam is based on self claim of a person who said to have received revelations from god.
Muhammad's revelations: no eye witness
The angel messenger: no eye witness
The chapter's order of Quran is totally a mess.
And yet everything in Quran is Divine!!
Another case of pot calling kettle black.
"christian" claim that their god is same as the god of jews, but they also claim that their god came as a man to die for the sins of humans including gentiles. This is an extra ordinary claim.

Who needs to produce more evidence?
Muslims who claim that they worship the same God who created Adam and who retains the same nature as accepted by Jews or the "christians" who have given a completely new "look" to God?

Those who make extra ordinary claim have to produce extra ordinary evidence to support their claim.

Jesus NEVER made any direct claim to divinty.
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Another lie!
Who told you that John was at his burial? He was not even there. Even the gospel, according to John does not say that.
John was neither present at the 'burial' nor present at the time of the alleged resurrection.
St John was at the crucifixion so he would have also been present at the burial.
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I have already addressed that:
Even his own disciples did not know and neither remembered. So, how can you say that the Jewish leaders knew? They knew nothing. Jesus hardly stayed 36 hours in the tomb, according to the story.
Every human rots in grave and turns to dust and bones. Jesus and Muhammad were no exception.
Jesus is also dead, dust and bones, so let him rest in peace.
Anyway, Jesus also rotted in his grave. He was no exception.
Jesus fortold His resurrection after three days and the Jewish leaders knew this and thus asked the Romans to put a guard on the tomb. How many people did the Romans put guards on the tomb; in fact curcified victims were not normally buried but let to rot on the cross.

God said He would not let His Holy One rot in the grave and so Jesus rose from the dead; while mohammad rotted in the grave; killed by his enemies.
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Can you please start reading the gospels?
Can you?
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The guard saw the angel roll the stone away from the tomb and Jesus rise from it. Again you are wrong.
oh really?
Who was this all important one man band of a guard?
This idiot probably saw the wounded Jesus sliding out!
Tell us about the guard from all four gospels as this is a very serious claim and needs to be properly recorded/verified in EACH gospel!
LOL...
liar liar pants on fire!
Jesus is NOT God.
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The quran tells muslims to kill Jews whereever they find them.
Go on then prove it!!
Also the Gospels ACCUSE Jews of MANY sins and thanks to these lovely books, the loving christians destroyed 90% of the Jewish race as CHRIST KILLERS.

QURAN does NOT give ANYBODY the right to have anyone killed or abused!
Once again your arguments are dumb..moot and mute!
There is NO proof whatsoever that BJ is god!!
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PROVE IN JESUS' OWN WORDS THAT HE IS GOD..OR PLEASE GO AWAY AND BURY YOUR HEAD IN SHAME FOR HAVING WORSHIPPED A NAKED PAGAN ON A PHALLIC POLE.
MANY of your Popes encouraged the MURDER of MILLIONS of JEWS as CHRIST KILLERS. They also gave tacit approval to homosexuals.
Your popes have been committing adutery too.
Now that is reality.
Only your god the holy father and boss of holy church blesses pedo carninals!!
Muslims don't have popey leaders.
Who is the head of all muslims?
we know the head of all catholics...the POPE!!!LOL...
Those who call themselves muslims may commit sins although not yet as sinful as the loving "christians" who persecuted and murdered almost all Jews as Christ killers using a fake/evil doctrine.
Many "christian" men rape and murder every day. do you think the millions of rapes, robbery, theft and murders in christian america are carried out by non christians?
Muslims don't have godly popes to whom they bow down or worship. Muslims worship only Allah.
We are talking about your "holy" godly fathers!
The RC community goes to vatican to see the godly pope!!!
They are hero worshipping these middlemen.
so you are as usual comparing apples and pears...
Now let's ask you again...
What do you think of pedos in your "holy" church in vatican.
Why is your pope resigning?
Will holy ghost leave him?
Why is he scared to leave the vatican protection after "retiring"?
Does holy ghost retire too?
What do you think of the catholic church in UK in turmoil thanks to "alleged" pedo O'brien?
Is it true that your "holy" church wants normal red blooded men and women to be celibate...masturbators. Do they use every tunnel to find relief...little boys, other nuns/priests, prostitutes, rent boys, employees and anything that has an orfice?
Why is there a decline in the number of worshippers in your "holy" RCC?
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Once more you lie. The angel rolled back the stone and Jesus rose from the dead. The guards saw this and were so shocked that they became as dead. The women arrived at the tomb and saw the stone rolled back and the angel at the tomb.
What is the name of this all important angel!!!
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bmz wrote:
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I have already addressed that:
Even his own disciples did not know and neither remembered. So, how can you say that the Jewish leaders knew? They knew nothing. Jesus hardly stayed 36 hours in the tomb, according to the story.
Every human rots in grave and turns to dust and bones. Jesus and Muhammad were no exception.
Jesus is also dead, dust and bones, so let him rest in peace.
Anyway, Jesus also rotted in his grave. He was no exception.
Matthew 16
21 From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.

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