Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256390 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Frank Incense

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#166177 Mar 6, 2013
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." Genesis 1:26

Were any "associates" involved? HELL NO! It was the imperial WE!

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#166178 Mar 6, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Did Maimonides convert to Islam during his youth?
http://rabbimichaelsamuel.com/2010/02/did-mai...
The text says yes to escape death.
Though it was feigned it was valid until a complaint was filed against Maimonides.
Maimonides himself carried the Islam religion until the complaint was filed even when he was not in danger anymore of losing his life.

That is the point.
It took another Muslim to have Maimonides religious affiliation to Islam removed as invalid.

So I was correct in post.

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#166179 Mar 6, 2013
Frank Incense wrote:
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." Genesis 1:26
Were any "associates" involved? HELL NO! It was the imperial WE!
You are wrong.
The imperial "We" cannot be used.
For that includes all the angels as being equal to God.

Angels do not create a human being, only God did create Adam, and Eve.

God is unique.
There is no one equal to God.

So God was speaking to Jesus His begotten Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Each are equal to God as having the same essence of God.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#166180 Mar 6, 2013
Shamma wrote:
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Biography of Maimonides
During the reign of Almoravids, the position of the Jews was apparently free of significant abuses,[10] but after another Berber dynasty, Almohads, conquered Córdoba in 1148 they have abolished the dhimma status (i.e. state protection of life and wealth) in some of their territories which threatened the Jewish and Christian communities with the choice of conversion to Islam, death, or exile.[9] However, the historical records of abuses against Jews in the immediate post-1148 period are subject to different interpretations.[11] Many Jews were forced to convert, and due to suspicion by the authorities of fake conversions, the new converts were also forced to wear identifying clothing.[12][13] Maimonides's family, along with most other Jews, chose exile.
Some say,though, that it is probable Maimonides feigned a conversion to Islam before escaping,[10] his forced conversion was ruled legally invalid per Islamic law when brought up by a rival in Egypt.[11]
For the next ten years Maimonides moved about in southern Spain, eventually settled in Fes in Morocco, the capital of the Almohads, where he studied at the University of Al-Karaouine. During this time, he composed his acclaimed commentary on the Mishnah in the years 1166–1168.[14]
“Maimonides practiced the time-honored medieval Islamic tradition of Taqiyya, or prudent dissimulation, by dressing and behaving like a Muslim publicly, perhaps occasionally presenting himself at a mosque, while remaining an observant Jew during the darkest period of Almohad persecution, which forced Jews to dress in hideous costumes and resulted in thousands of forced apostasies and deaths. There is simply no credible evidence that Maimonides converted, let alone that he was a “practicing Muslim.”

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#166181 Mar 6, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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“Maimonides practiced the time-honored medieval Islamic tradition of Taqiyya, or prudent dissimulation, by dressing and behaving like a Muslim publicly, perhaps occasionally presenting himself at a mosque, while remaining an observant Jew during the darkest period of Almohad persecution, which forced Jews to dress in hideous costumes and resulted in thousands of forced apostasies and deaths. There is simply no credible evidence that Maimonides converted, let alone that he was a “practicing Muslim.”
But he was a Jew practicing "Taqiyya" a time-honored Islamic tradition.
That is practicing a Muslim code of tradition, and is not recognized under Jewish law as practicing Mitzvah.
It is baring false witness against your neighbor.
You can argue all you want in his defense, but the fact is that he continued accepting "Taqiyya" as a Muslim tradition.
Not once did it say that he abolished it as a Jew.
You cannot practice Mitzvah and practice being a liar to God at the same time.
In defending Maimonides you abolish the integrity of Mitzvah.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#166183 Mar 6, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>But he was a Jew practicing "Taqiyya" a time-honored Islamic tradition.
That is practicing a Muslim code of tradition, and is not recognized under Jewish law as practicing Mitzvah.
It is baring false witness against your neighbor.
You can argue all you want in his defense, but the fact is that he continued accepting "Taqiyya" as a Muslim tradition.
Not once did it say that he abolished it as a Jew.
You cannot practice Mitzvah and practice being a liar to God at the same time.
In defending Maimonides you abolish the integrity of Mitzvah.
Thats not bearing false witness. Go back and understand the commandments.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#166184 Mar 6, 2013
Excerpts from the Gospel of Barnabas, Part-67A

Chapter 145 Argument with Pharisees

…The Pharisees answered in indignation: "So then we are all reprobate, and you hold our religion in reprobation!" Jesus answered: "I do not hold the religion of the true Pharisees in reprobation but in approbation and for that I am ready to die. But come, let us see if you are [true] Pharisees. Elijah, the friend of God, at the prayer of his disciple Elisha, wrote a little book in which he included all human wisdom with the Law of God our Lord."

The Pharisees were confounded when they heard the name of the book of Elijah, because they knew that, through their traditions, no one observed such doctrine. They [claimed they had] to depart under pretext of business to be done. Then Jesus said: "If you were [true] Pharisees you would forsake all other business to attend to this; for the Pharisee seeks God alone." So they tarried in confusion to listen to Jesus, who said again.:

"Elijah, servant of God" (for so begins the little Book), "to all them that desire to walk with God their creator, writes this:

Whoever desires to learn much, they (sic) fear God little, because he who fears God is content to know only that which God wills. They that seek fair words do not seek God, who does nothing but reprove our sins.…

They that seek God, shall come forth [to where] there are men of the world only once in [every] thirty days for in respect of the business of him that seeks God works for two years can be done in one day.

When he walks, let him not look save at his own feet.
When he speaks, let him not speak save that which is necessary.

When they eat, let them rise from the table still hungry; thinking every day not to attain to the next; spending their time as one draws his breath.

Let one garment, of the skin of beasts, suffice.

Let the lump of earth sleep on the naked earth [and] for every night let two hours of sleep suffice.

Let him hate no one save himself; condemn no one save himself.

In prayer, let them stand in such fear as if they were at the Judgment to come.

Now do this in the service of God, with the Law that God has given you through Moses, for in this way you shall find God [so] that in every time and place you shall feel that you are in God and God [is] in you."

This is the little book of Elijah, O Pharisees. Again I say to you that if you were [true] Pharisees you would have had joy that I [have] entered in here, because God has mercy upon sinners."

Note: This little book of Elijah is missing from OT Books-MUQ

(Abridged)

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#166185 Mar 6, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Thats not bearing false witness. Go back and understand the commandments.
It's lying, And God hates liars.
These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren (Prov. 6:16-19).

You are trying to wiggle out of it.
But Jewish scripture won't let you.
Lying is cause for being dismissed from the benefits of being a Jew

So, It don't matter if Maimonides lied as a Muslim or Jew to save lives of Jews and himself.

If you are born a Jew you must live as a Jew and die as a Jew to receive the benefits of being a Jew.

Not all rabbi agreed with Maimonides on his point of view.



He lied and violated

bmz

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#166186 Mar 6, 2013
Frank Incense wrote:
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." Genesis 1:26
Were any "associates" involved? HELL NO! It was the imperial WE!
Indeed!

The Church has her own Department that specializes in covering the absurdities of Church.

Throughout Genesis, it is all "God said,'........" and the Hebrew word Elohim can be seen throughout the Hebrew texts.

That was God addressing the angels.

And the ignorant fools of the Church think that God was talking to Jesus and the Ghost.

If I tell a group of children, "Let us play soccer!", I still am the only speaker. But in Christian English, it means I am more than one.

The illiterate and ignorant fools of the distant past bought that silly argument without a question.

It is really funny to see educated fools accept that absurd plurality? We must keep in mind that the Church fathers never sat in the company of the scholarly and the wise.

Now Shamma, the Shaman, will talk to children in this manner:

"Let I play soccer!", if he wanted to play a game with kids.

bmz

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#166187 Mar 6, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>It's lying, And God hates liars.
So, why does the Church still love God, knowing well that God hates liars?

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#166188 Mar 6, 2013
Jesus Fulfilled the Prophet Malachi's awesome Prophecy of the Tzit-Tzit

"But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings," Malachi 4:2

According to Jewish sages and tradition, this Sun of Righteousness referred to in Malachi's prophecy was understood to be the Messiah, who would have the power to heal who ever touched the tzit-tzit (fringes) on his garment.

tallit with tzit-tzit
Picture of a Tallit with tzit-tzit at the bottom; such as Yeshua/Jesus would have worn

In Jesus' day, Jewish men wore a simple tunic both at home and at work. When appearing in public, they would cover their tunic with a large rectangular cloth which draped over the shoulder and fell to the ankles. This cloth was called a tallit and served as protection from cold and rain. Hanging from the end of each of its four corners (wings) was a tzitzit in obedience to the biblical command. The hem of this garment is actually made with fringes, or tassels (called tzitziyot, in Hebrew). These were required to be on the four corners of all clothing of Jewish men, in accordance with God's instruction. These tassels were to remind each Jewish man of his responsibility to fulfill God's commandments in Deuteronomy 22 :12 and Num.15:37-40. In fact, these tassels are tied into 613 knots to constantly remind Jewish men of the 613 laws of Moses, of which there are 365 prohibitions (The "thou shalt not" laws), and 248 affirmations (the "thou shall" laws). The knots also correspond with the ineffable name of God, the unspoken yod-hey-vav-hey, Yahweh.

The fulfillment of this prophecy by Jesus:
One of the best known miracles of healing that Jesus performed was the occasion when a woman who had suffered from a hemorrhage for twelve years came up behind him and touched the hem of his garment. Both Matthew and Mark tell us about this incident below. Mark further tells us, that wherever the Lord went whomever merely touched the border of his garment "were made whole".

Matthew 9:20-22
20 And, behold, a woman, which was diseased with an issue of blood twelve years, came behind him, and touched the hem of his garment: For she said within herself, If I may but touch his garment, I shall be whole. But Jesus turned him about, and when he saw her, he said, Daughter, be of good comfort; thy faith hath made thee whole. And the woman was made whole from that hour.

She was expressing her faith in Jesus as the Son of Righteousness with healing in His wings.

Mark 5:25-34
And a certain woman, which had an issue of blood twelve years, And had suffered many things of many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was nothing bettered, but rather grew worse, When she had heard of Jesus, came in the press behind, and touched his garment. For she said, If I may touch but his clothes, I shall be whole. And straightway the fountain of her blood was dried up; and she felt in her body that she was healed of that plague. And Jesus, immediately knowing in himself that virtue had gone out of him, turned him about in the press, and said, Who touched my clothes? And his disciples said unto him, Thou seest the multitude thronging thee, and sayest thou, Who touched me? And he looked round about to see her that had done this thing. But the woman fearing and trembling, knowing what was done in her, came and fell down before him, and told him all the truth. And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague.

Mark 6:56-
And whithersoever he entered, into villages, or cities, or country, they laid the sick in the streets, and besought him that they might touch if it were but the border of his garment: and as many as touched him were made whole.

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#166189 Mar 6, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Indeed!
The Church has her own Department that specializes in covering the absurdities of Church.
Throughout Genesis, it is all "God said,'........" and the Hebrew word Elohim can be seen throughout the Hebrew texts.
That was God addressing the angels.
And the ignorant fools of the Church think that God was talking to Jesus and the Ghost.
If I tell a group of children, "Let us play soccer!", I still am the only speaker. But in Christian English, it means I am more than one.
The illiterate and ignorant fools of the distant past bought that silly argument without a question.
It is really funny to see educated fools accept that absurd plurality? We must keep in mind that the Church fathers never sat in the company of the scholarly and the wise.
Now Shamma, the Shaman, will talk to children in this manner:
"Let I play soccer!", if he wanted to play a game with kids.
You reduced God to be one of His own creations "WE"

Muslims cannot think with their brain.

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#166190 Mar 6, 2013
bmz wrote:
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So, why does the Church still love God, knowing well that God hates liars?
Because the Church and God are one.
Both detest the lies of man.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#166191 Mar 7, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>It's lying, And God hates liars.
These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren (Prov. 6:16-19).
You are trying to wiggle out of it.
But Jewish scripture won't let you.
Lying is cause for being dismissed from the benefits of being a Jew
So, It don't matter if Maimonides lied as a Muslim or Jew to save lives of Jews and himself.
If you are born a Jew you must live as a Jew and die as a Jew to receive the benefits of being a Jew.
Not all rabbi agreed with Maimonides on his point of view.
He lied and violated
Thats not bearing false witness. Go back and understand the commandments.

bmz

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#166192 Mar 7, 2013
Taqaiyyah is actually a time-honoured tradition of the Church and Christianity.

The man, who pioneered Taqaiyyah was Paul of Tarsus, who was the taqaiyyah master tactician.

The best example, that I have elaborated in favour of Paul the Taqaiyyah Master Tactician, is:

"With the Jews, I became a Jew. With the Greek, I became a Greek. With the Romans, I became a Roman. With the pagans, I became a pagan. With the Godless, I became a Godless. With the Lawless, I became lawless. I did that all to win converts for my Cult."

By the way, Jesus became a victim of the Father's Taqaiyyah. lol!

bmz

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#166193 Mar 7, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Because the Church and God are one.
So, by the Christian definition, the Church is the Father. Right? Thus, there are many Christian fathers inside the Father. The Father becomes a collective noun. Agree?

bmz

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#166194 Mar 7, 2013
Shamma wrote:
Jesus Fulfilled the Prophet Malachi's awesome Prophecy of the Tzit-Tzit
"But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings," Malachi 4:2
May I know how did the Church Mill come up with Malachi 4? Why were 3 books expanded in to 4?

Was it to show Jesus in there?

The most important verses in there are:

"Keep in remembrance the teaching of Moses, My servant - the laws and ordinances which I commanded him in Horeb for all Israel.

Lo, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord,
24. that he may turn the heart of the fathers back through the children, and the heart of the children back through their fathers-lest I come and smite the earth with utter destruction."

Was Jesus, Elijah?

bmz

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#166195 Mar 7, 2013
Shamma wrote:
There is no one equal to God.
Is Jesus equal to God then?

bmz

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#166196 Mar 7, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>You are an Muslim idiot.
I am free to make the right choice to serve God.
You have chosen to serve Satan, by not accepting Gods choice to free you from Satan's lies.
You remain in your state of fallen nature to sin.
Your fallen nature is called original sin, and you remain in your fallen nature filled with dirty sinful filth.
There is no such thing as Original Sin or the First Sin. That is a belief of self-loathing sinners.

On what occasion, did Jesus give a lecture on the Original Sin?
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#166197 Mar 7, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Is Jesus equal to God then?
Jesus is God!!!

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