Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 252847 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#165755 Mar 2, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Then why Jesus had to go to hell first? Wasn't he a believer?
That people will go to hell for not believing in Jesus, is absurd! Jesus never said that.
Hell is used for Paradise to emphasize God was not present with the righteous who died before Jesus' death and resurrection.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#165756 Mar 2, 2013
And more......None of the great scientists turned to the silly creationist Quran for info or for ideas....ROFL
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#165757 Mar 2, 2013
SCHRODINGER'S CAT & VEDANTA:

It is obvious that Schrödinger changed his mind about a wave aspect to electrons between 1923 and 1926.

There is some controversy about how Schrödinger actually arrived at Wave Mechanics, but in the Fall of 1925, presumably as he was building his theory, he wrote an essay, "Seek for the Road", which may provide some clues.

(Reference: My View of the World, Cambridge, 1964).

You may recall the Schrödinger's Cat paradox, which was first published in its "scientific form" in 1935 in Zeitschrift der Physick. However in his 1925 essay, he recounts an ancient Sankhya Hindu paradox that, jazzed up with some technology, became the cat paradox. In that original form the paradox was cast in the form of two people, one looking at a garden, the other in a dark room. The modern equivalent would be one person looking in the box to see if the cat is alive or dead, while a second person waits out in the hall. In this modern form the state "collapses" for the first person while it does not collapse for the second person.

In 1925 Schrõdinger resolved that paradox the way the Vedantists did:- He asserted that all consciousness is one.

As he wrote:

"But it is quite easy to express the solution in words, thus: the plurality [of viewpoints] that we perceive is only an appearance; it is not real. Vedantic philosophy, in which this is a fundamental dogma, has sought to clarify it by a number of analogies, one of the most attractive being the many-faceted crystal which, while showing hundreds of little pictures of what is in reality a single existent object, does not really multiply the object."

Here is another fragment of that essay:

"... you may suddenly come to see, in a flash, the profound rightness of the basic conviction of Vedanta:... knowledge, feeling and choice are essentially eternal and unchangeable and numerically one in all men, nay in all sensitive beings."

Finally, Schrödinger himself makes an interesting analogy between Vedantic philosophy and modern physics:

"If finally we look back at that idea of Mach [that `the universe is not twice given'], we shall realize that it comes as near to the orthodox dogma of the Upanishads as it could possibly do without stating it expressis verbis. The external world and consciousness are one and the same thing."

What role has the sick Quran that preaches the BS of creationism played in the march of civilization? None, none, at all. LOL.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#165758 Mar 2, 2013
JOEL wrote:
<quoted text>
Like the Quran?
BTW, the world's greatest scientists - Planck, Heisenberg, Bohr, Einstein, Bohm, Tesla and others - have always referred to the Upanishads for clues and inspiration
LOL

Really?

I am quite familiar with the work of those scientists and never read such a thing.

Can you quote from the various horse mouths (names of their books chapters, or letters) where they said so?

(smiles)
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#165759 Mar 2, 2013
VEDANTA-BUDDHISM & QUANTUM MECHANICS:

Despite their radically different worldview, shortly after their publication it was shown that Matrix Mechanics and Wave Mechanics are mathematically identical. In fact, Schrödinger was one of the people who did the proof.

Despite their formal equivalence, there seems to be more than just logic involved in the interpretation of the mathematics.

A) Heisenberg wrote:

"The more I ponder the physical part of Schrðdinger's theory, the more disgusting it appears to me."

B) Schrödinger wrote:

"If one has to stick to this damned quantum jumping, then I regret ever having been involved in this thing."

In the 5th century of the current era, there was a bitter argument in India between the Sankhya Hindus and the Buddhists about the nature of Universal Flux. Debates were held which lasted for days, and would attract huge crowds.

A) According to the Buddhists:

The phenomena consist of an infinity of discrete moments following one another almost without intervals.... There is no matter at all, flashes of energy follow one another and produce the illusion of stabilized phenomena. The universe is a staccato movement.

B) According to the Hindus:

The phenomena are nothing but waves or fluctuations standing out upon the background of an eternal, all-pervading undifferentiated Matter with which they are identical. The universe represents a legato movement.

Reference: F. Theodor Stcherbatsky, Buddhist Logic, Vol I, pg 83.

Even allowing for the possibility that Schrödinger's Wave Mechanics may have been influenced by Hindu philosophy, as the case appears to be, the parallels between the Buddhist-Hindu argument and the Heisenberg-Schrödinger aesthetic clash are striking.

So, what has that lunatic Muhammad have to say on the nature of the reality? Creation from nothing! Madman. LOL.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#165760 Mar 2, 2013
JOEL wrote:
WERNER HEISENBERG & VEDANTA:
This inspiration has provided the basis for the historical creation of the masterpiece “The Tao of Physics”, by Fritjof Capra.
Mr Capra wasnt that great, and he was famous only within his circle.
JOEL wrote:
A few days before his death Heisenberg mentioned to one of his friends:
“The scientists of the world should study the spiritualists of India, especially Swami Vivekananda. He is such a spiritual sage of India, whose thoughts can become the basis of modern scientific research.”
And for that quote, this is the only thing google has found:
http://www.google.com/search...

Deluded
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#165762 Mar 2, 2013
Unified field of Consciousness-Energy - "Separation without separateness, reality without rift."

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#165763 Mar 2, 2013
JOEL wrote:
SCHRODINGER'S CAT & VEDANTA:
It is obvious that Schrödinger changed his mind about a wave aspect to electrons between 1923 and 1926.
There is some controversy about how Schrödinger actually arrived at Wave Mechanics, but in the Fall of 1925, presumably as he was building his theory, he wrote an essay, "Seek for the Road", which may provide some clues.
(Reference: My View of the World, Cambridge, 1964).
You may recall the Schrödinger's Cat paradox, which was first published in its "scientific form" in 1935 in Zeitschrift der Physick. However in his 1925 essay, he recounts an ancient Sankhya Hindu paradox that, jazzed up with some technology, became the cat paradox. In that original form the paradox was cast in the form of two people, one looking at a garden, the other in a dark room. The modern equivalent would be one person looking in the box to see if the cat is alive or dead, while a second person waits out in the hall. In this modern form the state "collapses" for the first person while it does not collapse for the second person.
In 1925 Schrõdinger resolved that paradox the way the Vedantists did:- He asserted that all consciousness is one.
As he wrote:
"But it is quite easy to express the solution in words, thus: the plurality [of viewpoints] that we perceive is only an appearance; it is not real. Vedantic philosophy, in which this is a fundamental dogma, has sought to clarify it by a number of analogies, one of the most attractive being the many-faceted crystal which, while showing hundreds of little pictures of what is in reality a single existent object, does not really multiply the object."
Here is another fragment of that essay:
"... you may suddenly come to see, in a flash, the profound rightness of the basic conviction of Vedanta:... knowledge, feeling and choice are essentially eternal and unchangeable and numerically one in all men, nay in all sensitive beings."
Finally, Schrödinger himself makes an interesting analogy between Vedantic philosophy and modern physics:
"If finally we look back at that idea of Mach [that `the universe is not twice given'], we shall realize that it comes as near to the orthodox dogma of the Upanishads as it could possibly do without stating it expressis verbis. The external world and consciousness are one and the same thing."
What role has the sick Quran that preaches the BS of creationism played in the march of civilization? None, none, at all. LOL.
All the quotes on net are not reliable or come from Indian sources.

I guess in Pastakia's apartment disinformation is synonymous of information.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#165764 Mar 2, 2013
JOEL wrote:
<quoted text>
You mean Fe-56. A star that becomes a supernove does so after all its core is converted into Fe-56 with the bulk trigerring off electron capture...Fe-56 is of particular interest to scientists as it is the climax of nucleosynthesis.
rabbee: nope! and i believe you are referring to, iron 57 that is used in mossbauer spectroscopy. and is the preferred sheilding in, precise scintillation counters.

and iron 56, 57 and 58 is allegedly formed, in the more massive stars. we don't even really know for sure, what materials are at the center of the star sol. since it takes over a thousand years, for the light caused by the gamma to reach the surface of this solar systems sun. and may take allegedly millions of years, for the material being produced to reach the surface.

but we do detect, some lighter nickel and iron isotopes in the spectrum of the sun. but this solar systems sun, is not dense enough to form iron 56, 57, 58 or above. but mostly the ligher irons and nickel, from 45 to 51. but the sun does give off, spectrum from elements and isotpes from 1 to 51. with the yellow red, blue, green, bands for sodium, oxygen, helium, and hydrogen, being the most distinct.
wannabe scientist

United States

#165766 Mar 2, 2013
JOEL wrote:
VEDANTA-BUDDHISM & QUANTUM MECHANICS:
Despite their radically different worldview, shortly after their publication it was shown that Matrix Mechanics and Wave Mechanics are mathematically identical. In fact, Schrödinger was one of the people who did the proof.
Despite their formal equivalence, there seems to be more than just logic involved in the interpretation of the mathematics.
A) Heisenberg wrote:
"The more I ponder the physical part of Schrðdinger's theory, the more disgusting it appears to me."
B) Schrödinger wrote:
"If one has to stick to this damned quantum jumping, then I regret ever having been involved in this thing."
In the 5th century of the current era, there was a bitter argument in India between the Sankhya Hindus and the Buddhists about the nature of Universal Flux. Debates were held which lasted for days, and would attract huge crowds.
A) According to the Buddhists:
The phenomena consist of an infinity of discrete moments following one another almost without intervals.... There is no matter at all, flashes of energy follow one another and produce the illusion of stabilized phenomena. The universe is a staccato movement.
B) According to the Hindus:
The phenomena are nothing but waves or fluctuations standing out upon the background of an eternal, all-pervading undifferentiated Matter with which they are identical. The universe represents a legato movement.
Reference: F. Theodor Stcherbatsky, Buddhist Logic, Vol I, pg 83.
Even allowing for the possibility that Schrödinger's Wave Mechanics may have been influenced by Hindu philosophy, as the case appears to be, the parallels between the Buddhist-Hindu argument and the Heisenberg-Schrödinger aesthetic clash are striking.
So, what has that lunatic Muhammad have to say on the nature of the reality? Creation from nothing! Madman. LOL.
un-heroic featured dravidian get lost to your budhism or hinduism forum you will worship what ever you see cow , donkey , knife , sai baba etc...

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#165768 Mar 2, 2013
JOEL wrote:
VEDANTA-BUDDHISM & QUANTUM MECHANICS:
Despite their radically different worldview, shortly after their publication it was shown that Matrix Mechanics and Wave Mechanics are mathematically identical. In fact, Schrödinger was one of the people who did the proof.
Despite their formal equivalence, there seems to be more than just logic involved in the interpretation of the mathematics.
A) Heisenberg wrote:
"The more I ponder the physical part of Schrðdinger's theory, the more disgusting it appears to me."
B) Schrödinger wrote:
"If one has to stick to this damned quantum jumping, then I regret ever having been involved in this thing."
In the 5th century of the current era, there was a bitter argument in India between the Sankhya Hindus and the Buddhists about the nature of Universal Flux. Debates were held which lasted for days, and would attract huge crowds.
A) According to the Buddhists:
The phenomena consist of an infinity of discrete moments following one another almost without intervals.... There is no matter at all, flashes of energy follow one another and produce the illusion of stabilized phenomena. The universe is a staccato movement.
B) According to the Hindus:
The phenomena are nothing but waves or fluctuations standing out upon the background of an eternal, all-pervading undifferentiated Matter with which they are identical. The universe represents a legato movement.
Reference: F. Theodor Stcherbatsky, Buddhist Logic, Vol I, pg 83.
Even allowing for the possibility that Schrödinger's Wave Mechanics may have been influenced by Hindu philosophy, as the case appears to be, the parallels between the Buddhist-Hindu argument and the Heisenberg-Schrödinger aesthetic clash are striking.
So, what has that lunatic Muhammad have to say on the nature of the reality? Creation from nothing! Madman. LOL.
Leaving aside the quotes that only show how deluded you can ever be... and let's focus on creation from nothing.

Weren't you the one to believe that thousands of Adam and Eve came out of nothing due to the meeting of two forces or principles?

And that the ancestors of modern Indian came out of nothing (since lack of explication of how) in the ice (North pole)?

Hypocrite: The pot calling the kettle black.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#165771 Mar 2, 2013
And much more...
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#165772 Mar 2, 2013
Bye, kids.

(smiles)

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#165774 Mar 2, 2013
wannabe scientist wrote:
<quoted text>
shamma you are just ranting we have proven to you enough that islam is the real truth but if you are not accepting it you are doing harm for yourself
wannabe scientist wrote:
<quoted text>
shamma you are just ranting we have proven to you enough that islam is the real truth but if you are not accepting it you are doing harm for yourself
You are posting exactly what I am posting about.
Your God is Muhammad and freedom of speech is an insult to Muhammad.
So you are warning me to stop posting.
That is the foundation of Islam.

Muhammad is the Warner and Muslims are the punish-er for rejecting Muhammad as prophet.

The religion of Islam is not about the God of the Bible, its about forcing people to except Muhammad as their God, and forcing them to reject the God of the Bible.

Muslims want to shed the blood of infidels to quiet them for speaking the truth about Muhammad.

All the evilness done by Muhammad and Muslims is not fairy tales.
And you are showing in your post that the evilness of Islam is true.
"Except Islam or you will do harm to yourself"

That is the same warning Muhammad gave to those that rejected him as prophet, and Muhammad murdered them for rejecting him.

So you are showing to me right here on this public free speech forum that you are obedient to your god Muhammad in warning me to except Muhammad or I will be harmed
Your threat to harm me has been noted.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#165775 Mar 2, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
The koran says it's a book. You say it's a recital. Which is it? When did allah hand out this book to mohammad? Wait, allah never had any contact with mohammad, so when did the spirit hand the koran, book, to mohammad?
This is what I wrote:

" People; who believe in the absurdity and idiocy that God has a son and that God is triune, being dishonest themselves think that others, who do not believe in their junk and stuff; are dishonest.
When have you ever been honest about your own absurd scripture and your false and crooked belief system?

You do have an absurd book called the Book of Revelation. Right? Was that absurd revelation given to John in the form of a book?"

Answer this first and then ask questions?

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#165776 Mar 2, 2013
JOEL wrote:
<quoted text>
Like the Quran?
BTW, the world's greatest scientists - Planck, Heisenberg, Bohr, Einstein, Bohm, Tesla and others - have always referred to the Upanishads for clues and inspiration since their expositions are so rational and based on reals like consciousness, energy and matter and the mechanism is based on realities like monism, causation, conservation and systems theory and besides they never preach rot like creation from nothing, worship of a petty being, bigotry, incest, hypogamy, war, conversion or blood curdling rituals.
That is Horse Shit, Joel.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#165777 Mar 2, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>You are posting exactly what I am posting about.
Your God is Muhammad and freedom of speech is an insult to Muhammad.
So you are warning me to stop posting.
That is the foundation of Islam.
Muhammad is the Warner and Muslims are the punish-er for rejecting Muhammad as prophet.
The religion of Islam is not about the God of the Bible, its about forcing people to except Muhammad as their God, and forcing them to reject the God of the Bible.
Muslims want to shed the blood of infidels to quiet them for speaking the truth about Muhammad.
All the evilness done by Muhammad and Muslims is not fairy tales.
And you are showing in your post that the evilness of Islam is true.
"Except Islam or you will do harm to yourself"
That is the same warning Muhammad gave to those that rejected him as prophet, and Muhammad murdered them for rejecting him.
So you are showing to me right here on this public free speech forum that you are obedient to your god Muhammad in warning me to except Muhammad or I will be harmed
Your threat to harm me has been noted.
You are a fool, Shamma!

There was no threat. You are just doing what Jesus did to himself.

You must realise that Christianity is a religion, which is neither accepted by the Jews nor by Muslims. It was inspired by pagan philosophers and has no legs to stand upon.

You are so obsessed with a failed person that you foolishly consider him your God. Then you look at others through the same fractured lens and think others believe a man is their God too. This is rubbish!

Everything about Christianity is a rotten lie. There is not a shred of truth in your religion. Yours is the only religion where the funny teaching and preaching goes against your humorous scripture.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#165778 Mar 2, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
Hell is used for Paradise to emphasize God was not present with the righteous who died before Jesus' death and resurrection.
So, why did Jesus go to hell?
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#165779 Mar 2, 2013
JOEL wrote:
VEDANTA-BUDDHISM & QUANTUM MECHANICS:
Despite their radically different worldview, shortly after their publication it was shown that Matrix Mechanics and Wave Mechanics are mathematically identical. In fact, Schrödinger was one of the people who did the proof.
Despite their formal equivalence, there seems to be more than just logic involved in the interpretation of the mathematics.
A) Heisenberg wrote:
"The more I ponder the physical part of Schrðdinger's theory, the more disgusting it appears to me."
B) Schrödinger wrote:
"If one has to stick to this damned quantum jumping, then I regret ever having been involved in this thing."
In the 5th century of the current era, there was a bitter argument in India between the Sankhya Hindus and the Buddhists about the nature of Universal Flux. Debates were held which lasted for days, and would attract huge crowds.
A) According to the Buddhists:
The phenomena consist of an infinity of discrete moments following one another almost without intervals.... There is no matter at all, flashes of energy follow one another and produce the illusion of stabilized phenomena. The universe is a staccato movement.
B) According to the Hindus:
The phenomena are nothing but waves or fluctuations standing out upon the background of an eternal, all-pervading undifferentiated Matter with which they are identical. The universe represents a legato movement.
Reference: F. Theodor Stcherbatsky, Buddhist Logic, Vol I, pg 83.
Even allowing for the possibility that Schrödinger's Wave Mechanics may have been influenced by Hindu philosophy, as the case appears to be, the parallels between the Buddhist-Hindu argument and the Heisenberg-Schrödinger aesthetic clash are striking.
So, what has that lunatic Muhammad have to say on the nature of the reality? Creation from nothing! Madman. LOL.
All nonsense!

The Buddhists and the Hindus were not only good at masturbation but both were also good at intellectual masturbation.

How come those idiots of the distant yore did not produce anything useful? What did those backward fools invent and what good did they do for their fellow men or the world?

They were mostly self-loathers!
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#165780 Mar 2, 2013
JOEL wrote:
Bye, kids.
(smiles)
Bye, baby!

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