Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 Full story: The Brussels Journal 212,327

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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uhuh

Murcia, Spain

#165054 Feb 24, 2013
Rambam also referred to Muhammad as "the mad man", and Arabs in general as "stupid and adulterous"

pro-muslim? lol think again
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#165056 Feb 24, 2013
JOEL wrote:
YOGA & VEGETARIANISM:
A person may turn vegetarian if it's his family tradition or for health or ecological or ethical reasons. In all these cases, the person remains stuck in the same exteriorized state of the physicalized dimension of consciousness. However, in the yoga, when one enters a certain state of the finer consciousness like say the higher vital and beyond, then, one naturally shuns animal food and turns vegetarian. From these subtle states, the yogi can see the play of the forces involved in non-vegetarianism and the ill-effects non-vegetarian food has on the being. It's a natural reflex.
Hey Joel.
What do you think of Shri Shri Ravi Shankar?
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#165057 Feb 24, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Stop lying, please!
Jesus never revealed that utter nonsense.
Why did mohammad take out of the koran the three goddesses? They say mohammad took them out but since we do not have the original koran we don't know it he took them out or one of the scribs taking dictation. mohammad could not read so he could not have known what was in the koran.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#165058 Feb 24, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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When did Jesus say "I am GOD who is god the father, god the son and god the ghost all rolled into one!!!!
NEVER!
So you are LYING.
I would say he told His disciples this on the road to Emmaus.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#165059 Feb 24, 2013
uhuh wrote:
Rambam also referred to Muhammad as "the mad man", and Arabs in general as "stupid and adulterous"
pro-muslim? lol think again
Shamma would now love Rambam the muslim
Look at this "photo"
http://people.ucalgary.ca/~elsegal/TalmudMap/...

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#165060 Feb 24, 2013
@ Alex

Dear ex-Father

Could you please check it out and let me know what happened to Matthew 17:21 in many versions, where it goes missing.

Example:

RSVCE:

" 20 He said to them,“Because of your little faith. For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain,‘Move from hence to yonder place,’ and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.”

22 As they were gathering in Galilee, Jesus said to them,“The Son of man is to be delivered into the hands of men, 23 and they will kill him, and he will be raised on the third day.” And they were greatly distressed."

Thanks, ex-Father
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#165061 Feb 24, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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<quoted text>

Hey Joel.

What do you think of Shri Shri Ravi Shankar?
LOL.

He's a joker. That says it all.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#165062 Feb 24, 2013
@ Joel

Here is a question raised: "The Christian must ask how the Hindu religion fits into the biblical narrative."

There are plenty of sayings attributed to Jesus in Matthew, which have come from the Vedas and other Hindu books.

Have you noticed this? Please advise.

Thanks
BMZ

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#165064 Feb 24, 2013
JOEL wrote:
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From the Intuitive Consciousness and from my ex-Master, Subhash Chandra Bose and Barfani Baba.
Even in the NT, Jesus is said to have served wine to his disciples but my subjective experiences in the yoga show otherwise. Regarding his grave, the yogic experience reveals that his body is interred in Roza Bal, Kashmir.
In other words you made it up.

Expected.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#165065 Feb 24, 2013
uhuh wrote:
the Rambam declined the offer by Richard I of England and work instead for Saladin as court physician
his Mishneh Torah,
"It is permitted to gain profit from the wine of gentiles who does not practise idolatry, such as Muslims. Thus ruled all the Sages.
Christians, by contrast, are idolaters. It is forbidden to gain from their wine."
Rambam may have said Muhammed pbuh was mad.
He was equally dimissive of the mangod worshippers...

"The Christians are idolaters, and Sunday is their holiday..." (Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Avodah Zorah, 9;4)

"It is a mitzvah [religious duty], however, to eradicate Jewish traitors, minim, and apikorsim, and to cause them to descend to the pit of destruction, since they cause difficulty to the Jews and sway the people away from God, as did Jesus of Nazareth and his students, and Tzadok, Baithos, and their students. May the name of the wicked rot." (Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Chapter 10)
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#165066 Feb 24, 2013
(smiles)
uhuh

Murcia, Spain

#165067 Feb 24, 2013
the Rambam writing on trinity (in Arabic as usual),

"Bismi Allah ilah al-alam.
Know that: Allah wahid wahdaniah haqiqi <sic> (God is one, true unity)
no plurality, divisibility or corporeality.
Those who say that God is one but in their thought believe Him to be plural, are like al-nasara (christians) who say: He is one, but also three, and the three is one."
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#165068 Feb 24, 2013
bmz wrote:
@ Joel

"The Christian must ask how the Hindu religion fits into the biblical narrative."

There are plenty of sayings attributed to Jesus in Matthew, which have come from the Vedas and other Hindu books.
Ya Ma.

(smiles)

On a more serious note, there are many parallels between the teachings of Jesus and the Vedas and at times direct lift-offs from Vedic literature - this is because Jesus preached a lot of Vedantic monism.

In the Quran, too, one finds a few direct verses taken from the Upanishads.

Now, there are 2 ways of answering the above remark about Jesus and his nondual Vedantic expositions:

1) Jesus lived in India as a youth and picked up Vedanta from the Indian sages, or

2) Jesus did not visit India but being a yogi his mystical experiences tallied with the mystical experiences of the Indian sages and so it should come as no surprise that many of Jesus' deeper teachings correspond to the nondual expositions of the Vedanta.

PS:

Yogic experience reveals that Jesus lived in India as a youth and returned to India after the crucifixion and quit his body at the age of 80 or so. His mortal remains lie interred in Roza Bal in Kashmir.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#165069 Feb 24, 2013
BTW:

BMZ (SINGAPORE),

My sexy tummy lined with a thin layer of brownish hair is much better after consuming ajinomoto.

(smiles)
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#165071 Feb 24, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
I would say he told His disciples this on the road to Emmaus.
He could have said anything.
What happened to the disciples?
Now back to reality...
When did Jesus say "I am GOD who is god the father, god the son and god the ghost all rolled into one!!!!
NEVER!
Unless you can prove these from the books, we say that you are LYING.
You have just made up stories about Jesus being god!
By doing this you are sinning and Jesus is also being punished.
Stop punishing that poor man.
There is no proof that Jesus is God.
You are going on a hunch an dyou are doomed.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#165072 Feb 24, 2013
JOEL wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL.
He's a joker. That says it all.
Thank you. Peace.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#165073 Feb 24, 2013
uhuh wrote:
the Rambam writing on trinity (in Arabic as usual),
"Bismi Allah ilah al-alam.
Know that: Allah wahid wahdaniah haqiqi <sic> (God is one, true unity)
no plurality, divisibility or corporeality.
Those who say that God is one but in their thought believe Him to be plural, are like al-nasara (christians) who say: He is one, but also three, and the three is one."
Thank you for that uhuh.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#165074 Feb 24, 2013
bmz wrote:
@ Alex
Dear ex-Father
Could you please check it out and let me know what happened to Matthew 17:21 in many versions, where it goes missing.
Example:
RSVCE:
" 20 He said to them,“Because of your little faith. For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain,‘Move from hence to yonder place,’ and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.”
22 As they were gathering in Galilee, Jesus said to them,“The Son of man is to be delivered into the hands of men, 23 and they will kill him, and he will be raised on the third day.” And they were greatly distressed."
Thanks, ex-Father
Salaam, BMZ...
Jesus PBUH was promoting 2 of the 5 PILLARS of ISLAM here, having already promoted 2 others making a total of atleast 4 out of 5 Pillars of Islam?
What do you think brother?

Matthew 17:21
New International Version (©1984)
Zilch
New Living Translation (©2007)
Zilch
English Standard Version (©2001)
Zilch

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"But this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting."

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
However, this kind does not come out except by prayer and fasting."

International Standard Version (©2012)
But this kind does not come out except by prayer and fasting."

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
“But this kind does not go out except by fasting and by prayer.”

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Zilch

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
But this kind goes not out but by prayer and fasting.

American King James Version
However, this kind goes not out but by prayer and fasting.

American Standard Version
But this kind goeth not out save by prayer and fasting.

Douay-Rheims Bible
But this kind is not cast out but by prayer and fasting.

Darby Bible Translation
But this kind does not go out but by prayer and fasting.

English Revised Version
Zilch

Webster's Bible Translation
However, this kind goeth not out, but by prayer and fasting.

Weymouth New Testament
But an evil spirit of this kind is only driven out by prayer and fasting."

World English Bible
But this kind doesn't go out except by prayer and fasting."

Young's Literal Translation
and this kind doth not go forth except in prayer and fasting.'

Salaams, WM
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#165076 Feb 24, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Thank you. Peace.
You're welcome.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#165077 Feb 24, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Exactly Erics point. He didnt retranslate, he offered commentary.
If he just offered commentary then, his whole commentary should be able to be posted on this thread.
Id like to see all of them.
can you produce them?

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