Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 243341 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#164833 Feb 22, 2013
Shamma wrote:
he Apostle Barnabas and the Church of Cyprus
Saint Barnabas the Apostle (Feast Day - June 11)
Barnabas was born in Salamis, Cyprus and joined the Apostle Paul to spread the Gospel throughout Cyprus and Asia Minor. However, the two men split up over the objection to Barnabas' cousin John Mark coming along too. John Mark and Barnabas thus went on their own missionary journey throughout Cyprus without Paul.
In 57 A.D., the Jewish community in Salamis objected to his preaching in the synogogue, and had Barnabas dragged out, tortured and stoned to death. The Jews then had his remains wrapped in a sheet and hid them in some marshland, prior to being disposed at sea. The Apostle John Mark, who was a witness of this barbarous action, together with some converted slaves rescued the body of Saint Barnabas and buried it in an old tomb under a carob (some say cherry) tree to the west of Salamis. On the chest of Saint Barnabas his cousin placed a Gospel book of Matthew written by Barnabas. Hotly pursued by the Jews, who had discovered their plan, they escaped to Nicosia, where they managed to elude their pursuers and escaped to Egypt. The relics of Saint Barnabas, one of the first christian martyrs, remained hidden in this tomb for the next four hundred years unknown to anyone.
Saints Paul and Barnabas the Apostles
In 115 one of the most terrible events in the history of Cyprus occurred. A revolt arose by the Jews throughout the Roman Empire. In Cyprus, under the leadership of Artemion, the Jews slaughtered over 240,000 fellow-citizens. This revolt caused such prejudice against the Jews to spread, that it took centuries before another Jew was allowed to step on the island of Cyprus without being severely punished. The one positive outcome of this atrocity was that since the Jews were expelled from Cyprus, Christianity could flourish among the pagans.
A few of the Bishops who helped spread Christianity on the island were Lazarus the bishop of Kition (whom Jesus rose from the dead), Herakleidios the bishop of Tamasos, Avxivios the bishop of Soloi, and Theodotos the bishop of Kyrenia. Saint Spyridon the Wonderworker was bishop of Tremithous and represented Cyprus during the First Ecumenical Synod along with two other bishops of Cyprus (one historian says there were twelve bishops from Cyprus). Towards the end of the fourth century, Christianity had spread throughout the island. During this time Saint Epiphanius, the great defender of Orthodoxy, was Metropolitan. His seat was in Salamis, which was renamed Constantia.
What a rotten propaganda and bull shit!

240,000 killed by Jews? How many Jews were living there? Bishop of this, Bishop of that, etc. All bullshit!

The Church had two departments:

One was responsible for fabrication of a much needed scripture and the other was responsible for writing "History, According to the Church."

Please keep on lying!

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#164834 Feb 22, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
What a rotten propaganda and bull shit!
240,000 killed by Jews? How many Jews were living there? Bishop of this, Bishop of that, etc. All bullshit!
The Church had two departments:
One was responsible for fabrication of a much needed scripture and the other was responsible for writing "History, According to the Church."
Please keep on lying!
The facts of history are there.
Muslims cannot change them.
You have no facts to back up your opinions.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#164836 Feb 22, 2013
Thank you Brother BMZ for your inputs.

The beauty with truth is that it will always support each other. It does not matter how minutely you analyze. No two truths will ever contradict each other.

However to justify a falsehood, you have to invent one hundred more falsehoods and still not be able to justify it.

I think I will finish my Introduction part and then continue with other postings from this Gospel, which is its worth in gold and more.

Salaam

MUQ
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#164837 Feb 22, 2013
Excerpts from the Gospel of Barnabas- Part-0 (Introduction)(Contd.)(Repeat)

4. Then they say, that since the Italian manuscript came into light in 16th Century, then it must be a forgery of that century. They forget that if we use the same standard, then we find that during the reign of Josiah …”the then high priest , while cleaning Temple, discovered an old manuscript of Torah, and he presented it to King Josiah and he accepted that manuscript as original Torah”. So why cant the high priest would have written it himself and claimed that it is old Torah?

5. Then they say that some thoughts in this Gospel match with that of Poet Dante, who lived in 14th Century, so the writer could be his contemporary or came after him. What if Dante got his ideas from this Gospel?

6. They put forward such lame excuses against this Gospel, while dismiss more serious charges against existing Gospels.

I. Accusation that it is written by a Muslim: Just because GOB confirms some Islamic teachings, Christians make an unsubstantiated claim that this book was probably written by a Muslim. This is a mere accusation, and without any proof.

1. If it was written by any Muslim, then it should have been very popular amongst Muslims, but no Muslim knew about this Gospel, till it came to light as mentioned earlier. No Muslim even then knew about it, till it was translated into Arabic and English languages by Christians themselves.

2. Quran says that Jesus mentioned name of last prophet as Ahmed, where as in GOB it is mentioned that name of Last prophet is Mohammad and never even once mention the name Ahmed. How could any Muslim make such a grave error.

3. I doubt if any Muslim has such deep knowledge of OT books (in 13th – 16th Century) to write such a book with a false name.

4. It says that Jesus denies that I am Messiah, but says that Last Prophet is the promised Messiah. In Quran the Title Messiah is reserved for Jesus and at no place it calls Prophet Mohammad as Messiah. How could a Muslim writing a false gospel could have made such a mistake?

5. It mentions number of skies as Nine, whereas in Quran they are mentioned as seven at many places, no Muslim will accept that.

6. Then number of Important angels known to Muslims are Four, this Gospel mentions some more names which are not known to Muslims.

7. This Gospel says, that Jesus after ascending into heavens (to escape capture from jews) returned to earth for a brief period, this is a thing which is not known to Muslims.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#164838 Feb 22, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>The facts of history are there.
Muslims cannot change them.
You have no facts to back up your opinions.
Name the 'Church Historians' or other famous historians, who reported the murder of 240,000 Greeks by the Jews. Back up the numbers and the bullshit story.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#164839 Feb 22, 2013
There are many such things, which deny that any Muslim could have written this Gospel.

I. Some peculiarities of this Gospel: There are a few characteristics of this Gospel.

1. It lists all the miracles mentioned in all four of Gospels. Most episodes spread in different gospels are found here in one book.

2. It provides answers to “difficult” passages mentioned in Gospels without any answer. For Example Jesus asks Scribes and Pharisees “How could Messiah be David’s son, since David calls him his Lord”? There is no answer to this question in any of the four Gospels.

3. It provides the true picture of Jesus as a prophet and as a teacher. It shows how jesus taught his chosen disciples. It is totally different from what we see in other Gospels.

4. It shows how much Jesus detested the title “Son of God” and God. How severe was his reaction when Peter called him Son of God and Christ.

5. It solves the riddle of crucifixion, the riddle of “Missing Judas Iscariot”, the riddle of “Missing Corpse” and various Jesus’ sighting after alleged crucifixion.

I. Some shortcomings of This Gospel: The most evident shortcoming of this Gospel is total omission of the mention of John the Baptist. The writer puts many words attributed to John the Baptist into the mouth of Jesus.

J. How authentic is the Gospel of Barnabas: It is certain that what Copy we have is translation of the original gospel. Barnabas must have written it in Hebrew, from which it was translated into old Italian, Spanish and then English.

It could have suffered in translation and transmission as other books, may be somewhat more, but that is not the reason to reject it totally. Because none of OT and NT books can claim immunity from these.

I think Christianity is doing itself a great injustice by totally ignoring this Gospel. If they considered this Gospel with care, it would have solved many of their theological disputes and infighting between sects.

With these opening remarks, I present an abridged version of this Bible for those who are interested in serious reading. Full version of this Gospel could be downloaded from Internet sites life www.scribd.com

PS:

Some one came up recently with "another theory" (Bless their fertile minds!!) that this Gospel was written by a Christian who converted to Islam!!

Why would such a person write a Gospel is very strange, and that too hiding his name and using the style of old gospel.

The fact is there in no proof for such a Hypothesis.

And then why not accept the "true hypothesis" that this book was indeed written by Barnabas and it has not reached to us in exactly the same form and has suffered during transmission and translation.

And the same charge can be laid against each book on the "Holy" Bible.

Why we have two standards then?
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#164840 Feb 22, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>In the end rabbee, the good of God will bring evil to an end.
We can not second guess Gods judgment on ending evil in the world, for God brings all things to his perfection by His Will.
rabbee: you are telling, me this. while you are second guessing G-D'S judgement here in This second coming in G-D'S judgement here in TheTorah again? as if you all think you have the right, to denounce your appointment of TheKing? when there is nothing in the constitution, that gives you the right to denounce your King of christianity and judaism. that TheTorah says, you shall appoint.

do you not want to believe, i want to bring your evil desires against G-D to an end??? i have been called as the prince of peace by G-D, in this world that does not want to accept this again.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#164841 Feb 22, 2013
i am not your ambassiter to G-D, but i am G-D'S ambassider to you all. i am not your king to G-D, but i am G-D'S king given to you.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#164842 Feb 22, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: you are telling, me this. while you are second guessing G-D'S judgement here in This second coming in G-D'S judgement here in TheTorah again? as if you all think you have the right, to denounce your appointment of TheKing? when there is nothing in the constitution, that gives you the right to denounce your King of christianity and judaism. that TheTorah says, you shall appoint.
do you not want to believe, i want to bring your evil desires against G-D to an end??? i have been called as the prince of peace by G-D, in this world that does not want to accept this again.
You are talking out of turn here rabbe.
For who among men is he that can know the counsel of God? or who can think what the will of God is?

For the thoughts of mortal men are fearful, and our counsels uncertain.

Your counsel rabbee is certainly not from God.

You need to re-read my post.
I said nothing of what you are trying to give counsel upon.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#164843 Feb 22, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Name the 'Church Historians' or other famous historians, who reported the murder of 240,000 Greeks by the Jews. Back up the numbers and the bullshit story.
It is taken from the history of the Christian Orthodox Church founded by Jesus Christ in the year 33AD.
http://www.serfes.org/orthodox/inceptionofort...
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#164844 Feb 23, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>It is taken from the history of the Christian Orthodox Church founded by Jesus Christ in the year 33AD.
http://www.serfes.org/orthodox/inceptionofort...
There was no Church for 320 plus years. More lies, please.

That Jews of Cyprus killed 240,000 Greeks or Greek Christians, is a lie. You have to offer a solid proof for that lie, which came from the Church and her History fabricators.

For every lie against God and Jesus, the Church has fabricated history to show more lies.
John

Brisbane, Australia

#164845 Feb 23, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
That was a great contribution, MUQ.
The problem is that the Church neither had any gospel nor the New Testament for at least
350-400 years.
You can check this out by reading this extract showing the order from Constantine.
"Constantine then instructed Eusebius to organize the compilation of a uniform collection of new writings developed from primary aspects of the religious texts submitted at the council. His instructions were:
"Search ye these books, and whatever is good in them, that retain; but whatsoever is evil, that cast away. What is good in one book, unite ye with that which is good in another book. And whatsoever is thus brought together shall be called The Book of Books. And it shall be the doctrine of my people, which I will recommend unto all nations, that there shall be no more war for religions' sake."
(God's Book of Eskra, op. cit., chapter xlviii, paragraph 31)"
You muztards really are the most evil liars with the most diseased minds.
"God's Book of Eskra" is another pathetic fake and you know it.
It was written by an American dentist, John Ballou Newbrough (1828–1891)
All the books of the New Testament were written in the first century. The First Epistle of Clement, written before 100 AD, quotes from 10 of books of the New Testament.
Seriously, you're a creep.
John

Brisbane, Australia

#164846 Feb 23, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Name the 'Church Historians' or other famous historians, who reported the murder of 240,000 Greeks by the Jews. Back up the numbers and the bullshit story.
Dio Cassius you tard.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#164847 Feb 23, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
You muztards really are the most evil liars with the most diseased minds.
"God's Book of Eskra" is another pathetic fake and you know it.
It was written by an American dentist, John Ballou Newbrough (1828–1891)
All the books of the New Testament were written in the first century. The First Epistle of Clement, written before 100 AD, quotes from 10 of books of the New Testament.
Seriously, you're a creep.
You, ChristTurds are the liars.

Whether it was written by an American dentist or a Vatican pedophile or a Vatican Homo or a University of Sydney's Janitor, does not matter. It is the well-researched content that is important.

You guys have heard about Clement, Ignatius and other bullshitters and quote names but have you even seen a copy of the copy of the copy of the original?

There is no original of anything in Christianity's junk and stuff. If there were any, the Church woudl have displayed proudly.

Read this interesting note:

" Professor Edmond S. Bordeaux wrote How The Great Pan Died. In a chapter titled "The Whole of Church History is Nothing but a Retroactive Fabrication", he said this (in part):

"The Church ante-dated all her late works, some newly made, some revised and some counterfeited, which contained the final expression of her history ... her technique was to make it appear that much later works written by Church writers were composed a long time earlier, so that they might become evidence of the first, second or third centuries." (How The Great Pan Died, op. cit., p. 46)"

Cheers, ChristTurd!
John

Brisbane, Australia

#164848 Feb 23, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
You, ChristTurds are the liars.
Whether it was written by an American dentist or a Vatican pedophile or a Vatican Homo or a University of Sydney's Janitor, does not matter. It is the well-researched content that is important.
You guys have heard about Clement, Ignatius and other bullshitters and quote names but have you even seen a copy of the copy of the copy of the original?
There is no original of anything in Christianity's junk and stuff. If there were any, the Church woudl have displayed proudly.
Read this interesting note:
" Professor Edmond S. Bordeaux wrote How The Great Pan Died. In a chapter titled "The Whole of Church History is Nothing but a Retroactive Fabrication", he said this (in part):
"The Church ante-dated all her late works, some newly made, some revised and some counterfeited, which contained the final expression of her history ... her technique was to make it appear that much later works written by Church writers were composed a long time earlier, so that they might become evidence of the first, second or third centuries." (How The Great Pan Died, op. cit., p. 46)"
Cheers, ChristTurd!
You're still quoting from the fake rubbish!!!
LOL.
Man you are stoooopid!
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#164849 Feb 23, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
There was no Church for 320 plus years. More lies, please.
That Jews of Cyprus killed 240,000 Greeks or Greek Christians, is a lie. You have to offer a solid proof for that lie, which came from the Church and her History fabricators.
For every lie against God and Jesus, the Church has fabricated history to show more lies.
How many innocent men, women and children did muslims kill on 9-11?~3,000! How many Christians are they now killing around the world?

What do muslim men get in allah's sensual paradise? At lest the Christian Heaven is Holy while muslim's paradise is polluted.

muslims turn to the our Lord and God Jesus Christ and be saved! Turn from the promise of sensual paradise to a Heaven of love with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#164850 Feb 23, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
There was no Church for 320 plus years. More lies, please.
That Jews of Cyprus killed 240,000 Greeks or Greek Christians, is a lie. You have to offer a solid proof for that lie, which came from the Church and her History fabricators.
For every lie against God and Jesus, the Church has fabricated history to show more lies.
You are an idiot.
The Church became the State Religion of Rome in 325 under Constantine.
Your are the lying Muslim that can't take the truth.
God is not a pagan BMZ that God should have a pagan prophet called Muhammad.
Muhammad intimidated and murdered people to propagate his ideology. His actions are the actions of ideological and religious terrorism. Since Muslim look to Muhammad as a source of inspiration and model behavior, Muslims find support for Islamic terroristic activity in the life and teachings of their prophet Muhammad. Today, Muslims use that justification to attack and murder those who differ from them. When Muslim terrorists do this, they follow in Muhammad's footsteps. Jesus condemned those who murder, and Muhammad falls into this category.

"Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood" Revelation 22:15.

Jesus said in John's gospel that Satan was a murderer from the beginning, and that those who sought to murder Him were Satan's children.

You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. John 8:44

As soon as he rose to power, Muhammad began to have people murdered. Today, Muhammad's children do the same evil deeds. Jesus taught that one day people would murder Christians thinking they would be doing service to God.

...a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God. John 16:2 (NIV)

Today, in Muslim countries, like Iran for instance, Muslims murder ex-Muslims who have become Christians. And in other countries, they attack and threaten others. Jesus taught to love your enemies, to pray for those that persecute you. Jesus didn't send his disciples out to murder people in the night, Muhammad did. Take the example of Christ and the Samaritans opposition to Jesus.

"As the time approached for Him to be taken up to heaven, Jesus resolutely set out for Jerusalem. And he set messengers on ahead, who went into a Samaritan village to get things ready for him; but the people there did not welcome him, because he was heading for Jerusalem. When the disciples James and John saw this, they asked, "Lord, do you want us to call fire down from heaven to destroy them?" And he said, "You do not know what kind of spirit you are of, for the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them." And they went to another village." Luke 10:51-56

Muhammad would have ordered his men to attack the Samaritan village, then kill or enslave the people, and take all their possession as plunder. After Muhammad gained power, he sent his armies out to attack non-Muslims. Who then really brought God's message of His love for mankind? Who really taught peace? Surely, this man Muhammad was not from God. Instead, Muhammad is one of the false prophets Jesus warned his disciples about in Matthew gospel,

And many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11

endtime

AOL

#164851 Feb 23, 2013
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#164852 Feb 23, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
muslims turn to the our Lord and God Jesus Christ and be saved!
Sorry, we do not buy fraud.

Your Lord and silly God was himself not saved by the one called the Father. So, the man, who could not save himself, cannot save anyone.

You can have that God, the Fraud!

It is really amazing to see all the absurdities coming from you guys. You should equate your Jesus, the pioneer of Communism, with Karl Marx or Lenin.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#164853 Feb 23, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>You are an idiot.

The Church became the State Religion of Rome in 325 under Constantine.
Another classic!!!

Church became religion?

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