Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 Read more: The Brussels Journal 216,784

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163421 Feb 14, 2013
Shamma wrote:
The other problem is, while the Church corrected its error of being a religious government, and abandoned its political ambitions of wanting to rule the nations of the earth, Muslims wrongly continue to express Muhammad's government religion as being Gods ruler on earth.

The error of the Church's political ambition of the past was an abomination to God, and so it is Muhammad's Muslim followers are an abomination to God in today's world.
The Church has always been bad!!! Neither the Church nor Christianity corrected any error. They were leashed and tamed only after WWII by the modern men.

The problems in the Muslim world, are mostly political. Lack of education of masses and lack of good governance, are the ailments that we face. You took two thousand years to civilize. They came six hundred years later. They will catch up fast within 100 years.

Christianity is the abomination in the sight of God, not Islam. This is a fact, which you cannot and adre not deny!

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163422 Feb 14, 2013
Shamma wrote:
We Called to love one another
It was the scene of the last supper. As the Lord Jesus finished telling His disciples that He would soon return to his Father, He gave them a new command:“Love one another, as I have loved you,
so you must love one another.” Then He added,“By this all men will know that you are my disciples”(John 13:34-35).
Notice that the Lord does not give them “a new suggestion” or “a good idea.” It is a command, not an option. But what is new about it?
Earlier, the Israelites had been given a clear command from God to “love your neighbours”(Leviticus 19:18).
But the Lord’s command to His disciples involves a new standard: not “love your neighbours as yourself,” but “love as I have loved you.”
Just imagine. Our new model is the love of Christ Himself!
The Lord presents this quality of love as a test before “all men” as to whether or not we are all Gods Children.
Raping, robbing, and murdering one another in the name of God is an abomination in the eyes of God.
To be blunt, I find this so-called 'command' to love disgusting and insulting to all!

If he had asked the disciples to love one another, I can accept that, simply because those men might have hated each other and did not love each other.

I can see that in Peter's remark in John, when he says, "Lord, what about him?", the one following behind (John).

That is why Jesus wrapped a towel around and washed the dirty and smelly feet of the disciples to teach them how to be humble, for he knew taht love comes from humbleness or humility.

People, five thousand plus years before Jesus, in ancient China, India, Africa and even the Australian Aborigines knew how to love each other. The Hebrews and the Jews knew about love. It is absurd to say that only Jesus taught love to Israelites, as if each Israelite hated each other.

How coem, we do not see any love coming from you? LMAO!

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163423 Feb 14, 2013
Enough for now, Shamma

Take time to digest! What I have written is easy to digest.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163424 Feb 14, 2013
Shamma wrote:
Jews and Christians reject the teaching of Muhammad.
Beg your pardon!

The Jews flatly reject and condemn Christianity. Christianity is pagan to them. Please do not drag them in this. They will not agree with you.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#163425 Feb 14, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
No, he is not. That Jesus is God is Satanic and this lie was spread by Satan.
This denies your false belief:
"Jesus said to him,“Away from me, Satan! For it is written:‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’[e]”
11 Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him."
If Jesus had told "Him" (Satan) that he was God or the son of God, then "He" (Satan) would not have left him.
So, please worship the LORD your God. And if you keep on worshipping Jesus, Satan will not leave you and the Church, as long as you do that.
Jesus is God, He was with the Father in glory before the world began. Before Abraham He was. He spoke to Moses from the burning bush!
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#163426 Feb 14, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Once you have Abraham, all are covered. You do not need the absurd Genealogies by Matthew and Luke, who did not know their own grandfathers' names.
Ok, I will make it easier on you. We believe in the LORD God Almighty of Noah and Abraham. This covers all.
Ishaq (Issac) has also a place in our heart. He is mentioned in Qur'aan.
God granting babies to old and barren ladies is more factual. You should call the ladies as the Women of Promise. God gave one to old Zacchy and his old barren wife. So, Zacchy and his wife were the Couple of Promise.
What went wrong with the "children of promise" of the so-called "child of the promise"?
Bye now.
God said He is the "God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob." Isaac is the child of the promise while ishmael is the child of the flesh. Christians are children of the promise while muslims are children of the flesh. islam is a religion based on the Law of the Jungle, Social Darwinism; in other words it is a product of natural evolution and not revelation.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163427 Feb 14, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
Before Abraham He was. He spoke to Moses from the burning bush!
All of us were there before Abraham was. That is nothing great!

You mean to say that Moses saw Jesus' ass? lol!
joy

India

#163428 Feb 14, 2013
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Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#163429 Feb 14, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
All of us were there before Abraham was. That is nothing great!
You mean to say that Moses saw Jesus' ass? lol!
If everyone was were before Abraham why would Jesus even make such a statement? Do you ever read what you post? Your logic is nonsense that you don't even follow when applied to islam. If you don't even follow your own logic why should anyone else?

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163430 Feb 14, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
If everyone was were before Abraham why would Jesus even make such a statement? Do you ever read what you post? Your logic is nonsense that you don't even follow when applied to islam. If you don't even follow your own logic why should anyone else?
My posts are crisp. You must try to read and comprehend.

That Jesus spoke to Moses from the Burning Bush is ridiculous, absurd and a big lie!

The line, "Before Abraham was born, I am", is meaningless, absurd, incomplete and grammatically wrong.

If Jesus had wanted to say that he was there before Abraham, he would have said, "Before Abraham was born, I was there".

If he wanted to say that he was the so-called "I am", then he would have said, "Before Abraham was born, I was the I am". And the Jews would have killed Jesus there and then.

These incomplete and absurd lines were easily sold to ignorant pagans, who were not literate.
I don't know how can you educated folks believe that Jesus was saying that he was 'the I am" before Abraham was born?

He was with God, according to your John. Right? So he was not God, the God. Right?

So, how could he have been the I AM of the Hebrews?
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#163431 Feb 14, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
My posts are crisp. You must try to read and comprehend.
That Jesus spoke to Moses from the Burning Bush is ridiculous, absurd and a big lie!
The line, "Before Abraham was born, I am", is meaningless, absurd, incomplete and grammatically wrong.
If Jesus had wanted to say that he was there before Abraham, he would have said, "Before Abraham was born, I was there".
If he wanted to say that he was the so-called "I am", then he would have said, "Before Abraham was born, I was the I am". And the Jews would have killed Jesus there and then.
These incomplete and absurd lines were easily sold to ignorant pagans, who were not literate.
I don't know how can you educated folks believe that Jesus was saying that he was 'the I am" before Abraham was born?
He was with God, according to your John. Right? So he was not God, the God. Right?
So, how could he have been the I AM of the Hebrews?
To properly understand the Holy Bible you must use Sacred Tradition as your guide. Sacred Tradition lets us know how the Apostles and early disciples of Jesus, who knew the writers of the NT, understood their writings. The Catholic Church holds to both Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture so that she is not lead into error as many are who have abandoned Sacred Tradition.

Jesus is the great "I Am"; before Abraham, even before the world began, He was in glory with the Father in Heaven! Praise be our Lord and God Jesus the Christ!!!

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163432 Feb 14, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
To properly understand the Holy Bible you must use Sacred Tradition as your guide. Sacred Tradition lets us know how the Apostles and early disciples of Jesus, who knew the writers of the NT, understood their writings. The Catholic Church holds to both Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture so that she is not lead into error as many are who have abandoned Sacred Tradition.

Jesus is the great "I Am"; before Abraham, even before the world began, He was in glory with the Father in Heaven! Praise be our Lord and God Jesus the Christ!!!
YAWN!

Sooooooo boring.

Thank God, you guys have not made Jesus, the Father in Heaven. If the Church had her way, she would have declared that lie centuries before. Looks like they could not think of that lie, which they missed.

Too late now.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#163433 Feb 14, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
My posts are crisp. You must try to read and comprehend.
That Jesus spoke to Moses from the Burning Bush is ridiculous, absurd and a big lie!
The line, "Before Abraham was born, I am", is meaningless, absurd, incomplete and grammatically wrong.
If Jesus had wanted to say that he was there before Abraham, he would have said, "Before Abraham was born, I was there".
If he wanted to say that he was the so-called "I am", then he would have said, "Before Abraham was born, I was the I am". And the Jews would have killed Jesus there and then.
These incomplete and absurd lines were easily sold to ignorant pagans, who were not literate.
I don't know how can you educated folks believe that Jesus was saying that he was 'the I am" before Abraham was born?
He was with, according to your John. Right? So he was not God, the God. Right?
So, how could he have been the I AM of the Hebrews?
The early Church fathers recognized Jesus is God. Should we listen to the Church fathers who knew those who knew Jesus or the opinions of those in the 21st century offering only their opinions with out any backing from the early saints?

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-divinity-o...
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#163434 Feb 14, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
YAWN!
Sooooooo boring.
Thank God, you guys have not made Jesus, the Father in Heaven. If the Church had her way, she would have declared that lie centuries before. Looks like they could not think of that lie, which they missed.
Too late now.
Not much of an argument. The fact remains Jesus is God; whether you like it or not.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163435 Feb 14, 2013
It is reported that the dying Jesus said to Mary:

"Do not hold on to me,

for I have not yet returned to the Father.

Go instead to my brothers and tell them,

‘I am returning to my Father and your Father,

to my God and your God."

The So-called Sacred Tradition gets pulverized by above.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163436 Feb 14, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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Not much of an argument. The fact remains Jesus is God; whether you like it or not.
Just look at the post above and read.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#163437 Feb 14, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
YAWN!
Sooooooo boring.
Thank God, you guys have not made Jesus, the Father in Heaven. If the Church had her way, she would have declared that lie centuries before. Looks like they could not think of that lie, which they missed.
Too late now.
The Council of Nicaea put to rest the question about Jesus' divinity. The leaders of the Catholic Church throughout the Christian world came together with Jesus in their mist and acknowledged Jesus Christ is God!!!
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#163438 Feb 14, 2013
bmz wrote:
It is reported that the dying Jesus said to Mary:
"Do not hold on to me,
for I have not yet returned to the Father.
Go instead to my brothers and tell them,
‘I am returning to my Father and your Father,
to my God and your God."
The So-called Sacred Tradition gets pulverized by above.
Oh wow! the Catholic Church never saw that verse, thanks for pointing it out.(sarcasm)

The Cathoic Church is well aware of that verse and it does not prove Jesus is not God; only that you do not understand how to read and understand Holy Scripture.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163439 Feb 14, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
Not much of an argument. The fact remains Jesus is God; whether you like it or not.
It is not a fact, Paul. It is a great lie against God and also against Jesus, the LORD's obedient slave.

Use your brain and think hard!

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163440 Feb 14, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh wow! the Catholic Church never saw that verse, thanks for pointing it out.(sarcasm)
The Cathoic Church is well aware of that verse and it does not prove Jesus is not God; only that you do not understand how to read and understand Holy Scripture.
I think in the Catholic Church's own Bible, it must have been written as follows:

"Do not hold on to me,

for I have not yet returned to my own self.

Go instead to my brothers and tell them,

‘I am returning to my own self."

Note: You can delete the word self and replace it with senses.

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