Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 230565 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

“warning angel of Allah”

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#163363 Feb 13, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: so do you believe essencially, that 'hey you!' is an acceptable name and shows respect for G-D? or bob, bud, billie, or sob, or ahole are also correct to use? or any other name you, or any one else damn well pleases? then you will fit right in, with the rest of the gravy sucking clowns on this message board.
Okay, one can determine who the trolls are around here, like real quick lol. When you want a real discussion, then we can talk. If you are an atheist aka Khafir, then there is nothing for me to say to you. You seem secure in your chosen path. Peace be with you.

“warning angel of Allah”

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#163364 Feb 13, 2013
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

If there is anyone here, who can talk or debate above a second grade level, then I will be here to converse with you. If you rather choose to insult and make yourself look more ignorant than you already appear to be, then don't waste my time.
Sincerely yours, Suhayl Hadar
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#163365 Feb 13, 2013
Suhayl Hadar wrote:
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
If there is anyone here, who can talk or debate above a second grade level, then I will be here to converse with you. If you rather choose to insult and make yourself look more ignorant than you already appear to be, then don't waste my time.
Sincerely yours, Suhayl Hadar
Where are these original texts recited by mohammad?

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#163366 Feb 13, 2013
Suhayl Hadar wrote:
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
If there is anyone here, who can talk or debate above a second grade level, then I will be here to converse with you. If you rather choose to insult and make yourself look more ignorant than you already appear to be, then don't waste my time.
Sincerely yours, Suhayl Hadar
Do you believe Muhammad's revelations came from the God of Israel?

“warning angel of Allah”

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#163367 Feb 13, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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Where are these original texts recited by mohammad?
Are you asking me where are the original manuscripts of the Quran ?
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#163368 Feb 13, 2013
Suhayl Hadar wrote:
This has to be a trick question, because no man can define Allah.
The God of Abraham, the God Issac and the God of Jacob is a Triune God. He is the Creator of all things visible and invisible. Since the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob created all things, allah could not be God. Who then is allah?
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#163369 Feb 13, 2013
Suhayl Hadar wrote:
<quoted text>Are you asking me where are the original manuscripts of the Quran ?
I am asking where are the original texts dictated by mohammad to the scribes.

“warning angel of Allah”

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#163370 Feb 13, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Do you believe Muhammad's revelations came from the God of Israel?
When you say "the God of Israel", it makes one think of a tribal deity. Is not the God of Israel the God of the entire planet ?

“warning angel of Allah”

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#163371 Feb 13, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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I am asking where are the original texts dictated by mohammad to the scribes.
Okay I understand what you are asking now. The scribes would write the revelations of God from Muhammmad. However it was not in what many would invision as a class room setting. The scribes would write down on anything they could find at the moment. It was very crude, such as rocks, stones, and even the blade of a camel. All of which have been held in museums. As with many holy texts, it takes the initiative of a King to bring all of God's word into one form called a book. King James did this for Christianity. Likewise Salam the Persian gathered all the holy text into written form called the Quran. As I stated elsewhere on this forum, not all text where completed during his lifetime. The complete text was written after his death. The following picture is just to provide you with an example of how crude some of the methods of recording were. Keep in mind, writing the truth on stones and bones, is better than writing lies on Gold.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Surat_al-Fa...

“warning angel of Allah”

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#163372 Feb 13, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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The God of Abraham, the God Issac and the God of Jacob is a Triune God. He is the Creator of all things visible and invisible. Since the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob created all things, allah could not be God. Who then is allah?
You wrote, "The God of Abraham, Issac, and the God of Jacob." I stated that no man can define Allah / God. Yes he is the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob, but in saying that, do you really believe that you a mere mortal have just defined The fullness of God in all of his glory and in all that he is ? As I stated before, this thread had to be a trick question. No man can define God. The most wise among us can't even grapple with what God is.

“warning angel of Allah”

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#163373 Feb 13, 2013
Allah / God is so much more to us, than man can describe. Here is one of the best tries I have heard yet. It is very beautiful, and if you can come away after hearing this video still thinking that we are not all one people of God, then I don't know what else I can say.

&li st=FLHINVvIjR049eS0FiFjLqcQ
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#163374 Feb 13, 2013
Suhayl Hadar wrote:
<quoted text>Okay I understand what you are asking now. The scribes would write the revelations of God from Muhammmad. However it was not in what many would invision as a class room setting. The scribes would write down on anything they could find at the moment. It was very crude, such as rocks, stones, and even the blade of a camel. All of which have been held in museums. As with many holy texts, it takes the initiative of a King to bring all of God's word into one form called a book. King James did this for Christianity. Likewise Salam the Persian gathered all the holy text into written form called the Quran. As I stated elsewhere on this forum, not all text where completed during his lifetime. The complete text was written after his death. The following picture is just to provide you with an example of how crude some of the methods of recording were. Keep in mind, writing the truth on stones and bones, is better than writing lies on Gold.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Surat_al-Fa...
The Holy Bible was compiled by the Catholic Church who has its authority to speak for God through the Keys give her by Jesus to St Peter. King James was not authorized by God to translate the Holy Bible and he certainly did not put the Holy Bible together.

When did God give Salam the Persian the authority to mess with the text of the koran? The original koran had no pronunciation marks and many interpretations of the original texts could be made; there were several different version at one time. Now if you say people had memorized the original text and so the koran was interpreted from the memories of others. What assurance do you have from God these people’s memories were correct; after all, we know how poor memories are.

“warning angel of Allah”

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#163375 Feb 13, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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The Holy Bible was compiled by the Catholic Church who has its authority to speak for God through the Keys give her by Jesus to St Peter. King James was not authorized by God to translate the Holy Bible and he certainly did not put the Holy Bible together.
When did God give Salam the Persian the authority to mess with the text of the koran? The original koran had no pronunciation marks and many interpretations of the original texts could be made; there were several different version at one time. Now if you say people had memorized the original text and so the koran was interpreted from the memories of others. What assurance do you have from God these people’s memories were correct; after all, we know how poor memories are.
You are mixing politics with spirituality. Such seems to be a mistake made by many who try to hold a monopoly on religion to control others. The scripture informs us "that without faith, it is impossible to please God." That being so, I assume it is your faith that validates the catholic church over the protestant church, right? I say that, because you were not around to see Peter give anyone any set of keys to do anything. Once again, you are inserting politics into religion. The only reason Catholics had a problem with King James, is because he took power from the Catholic church, via translating the word of God from Latin into English. I Guess that is what the catholic church refers to as heracy ?

When Jesus returns, do you think he will approve of your huge megaplexes called churches, and would he approve of the huge money maker that the church has become ? Would he approve of your using of politics to minipulate God's people ? Was it not Jesus who whipped the money changers out of the temples? When did religion turn into big business ? There is no one true church, just one true God. Those who love God and submit to him, are his beloved. anything else is politics, and I'm disgusted with political teachers.

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#163376 Feb 13, 2013
Suhayl Hadar wrote:
<quoted text>When you say "the God of Israel", it makes one think of a tribal deity. Is not the God of Israel the God of the entire planet ?
I know that, that is why I asked you that question.
And you should know that also.

I asked that question because the God of Israel is the author of the Holy Bible.
The Old and New Testament of God.
So, I ask you again ,did Muhammad's revelations come from the God of Israel?
bmz

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#163377 Feb 13, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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The Catholic Church sees no conflict between the teachings of Jesus and St Paul. So the problem is with you if you think there is a difference. I would take what Spirit filled people teach over what a heathen thinks. I like it how you muslims think you know more than what God's Church knows. Only the feeble minded would fall for your arguments; you don't even fall for your logic when it is applied to the koran and mohammad. As you know the koran has been changed since the original, with the satanic verses being removed, and how, someone decades after mohammad died, re-wrote the koran and had all other version burned.
Dear Paul,

Have mercy on your own soul!

Paul, according to Shamma's post, wants everyone to suffer. Jesus does not.

Not only the Catholic Church is blind but you are also are really blind.
bmz

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Singapore

#163378 Feb 13, 2013
Shamma wrote:
Catechism book of the Catholic Church.
Want answers? read the book from this link.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX....
Been there, done that!

I have already told you that Catechism is a collection of Fatwas (opinions) by men, who did not know Jesus and did not understand his teachings. It is NOT scripture.

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#163379 Feb 13, 2013
Suhayl Hadar wrote:
<quoted text>You wrote, "The God of Abraham, Issac, and the God of Jacob." I stated that no man can define Allah / God. Yes he is the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob, but in saying that, do you really believe that you a mere mortal have just defined The fullness of God in all of his glory and in all that he is ? As I stated before, this thread had to be a trick question. No man can define God. The most wise among us can't even grapple with what God is.
You ask? what is God?
The answer is- God is Spirit.
John 4:23-24
Jesus said, But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for such the Father seeks to worship him. 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."

So we know from the word of Jesus that God is Spirit.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163380 Feb 13, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: and you hypoctite! the quran was written by what or whom? there is no claim, it was written by G-D or Angel. and muhammed allegedly, could not even write.
so how does your text written by other critters, make it better than theirs allegedly altered by critters? when you even claim that G-D is not, or does not consist of TheHOLY SPIRIT. that only leaves the unholy spirit of critters alleged as men, to write your quran text. comparing one erred text against another errant text, won't get to the truth. two diverse ways of lying, does not cancel out each other out for one or the other to become the truth.
what ever even the christians have today, is not what Paool or Pheter, or Yaachov wrote then. if it has been altered its, no longer Paool's, Pehter's, or Yaacov's writtings or Yeshooah's sayings. they can't even, get their names right and neither can muslems. j names never even existed, untill well after 1054. did not even become popular, untill after the 15th century. which makes them all suspicious, at the very least.
i do not trust, any of you whether your muslem, christian, jews, or other pagan today. i only trust TheG-D WHO came to visit with me. and there is no way, i am smart enough to know what is true with G-D, without any actual visit from G-D. i wasted 41 years, proving that, prior to the second visit with G-D. so don't even try to convince me, that any of you know what is right or wrong according to G-D, without an actual audience with HIM. as far as i am concerned, any scripture that is not verified as in TheTorah, is all political vain territorial bs.
Love you, Rabbee

The point is that there is no other God besides God. The LORD Almighty said so. Right?

And here, we have subtle beasts of the field, who do not realize that Jesus himself said to the Samaritan woman at the well, "God is spirit and wants everyone to worship God in true spirits".

Fortunately, the subtle beasts of your field, did not write "God is the Holy Spirit and wants everyone to worship God in true Holy Spirits".
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#163381 Feb 13, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: well that was the problem, since only muhammed could speak modern english and modern arabic at that time. so no body else, understood what in the hell he was saying. so they wrote, whatever in the hell they wanted anyway.
lol!

Paul cannot understand his own scripture, so how can he understand this thePost of yours, Rabbee?

Please keep Paul away from your theTorah.

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#163382 Feb 13, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Dear Paul,
Have mercy on your own soul!
Paul, according to Shamma's post, wants everyone to suffer. Jesus does not.
Not only the Catholic Church is blind but you are also are really blind.
1 Pet. 3:13-17, Suffering for the sake of Christ
"And who is there to harm you if you prove zealous for what is good? 14 But even if you should suffer for the sake of righteousness, you are blessed. And do not fear their intimidation, and do not be troubled, 15 but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence; 16 and keep a good conscience so that in the thing in which you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ may be put to shame. 17 For it is better, if God should will it so, that you suffer for doing what is right rather than for doing what is wrong."
1.Verse 14, You are blessed if you suffer for the sake of righteousness. A.Now, most of you would not equate the word "blessed" with suffering. i.The word here translated "blessed" (makarioi; cf. 4:14) and was used by Jesus in (Matt. 5:3-11). To be "blessed" in both contexts does not mean to "feel delighted" but to be "highly privileged."
ii.Christians are not to be afraid of what men can do to them (cf. Matt. 10:28). Rather, in context, Peter's exhortation to fear God rather than men.
B.One of the best ways to overcome the fear of persecution is to be persecuted. i.I remember out at the swap meet ministry I had a few years ago when this pair of huge Samoans approached. One of them threatened me because I spoke out against Mormonism -- they were Mormons. Neither liked what I had to say and one of them, who was as big as a barn, threatened to beat me up. I stood my ground (with heart pounding) and trusted God. Nothing happened. a.After it was over, I felt the peace and assurance of God.
C.The blessing is from God, not from man.
D.The fact that we live in this world that has so many unbelievers in it and has so much demonic activity in it is a guarantee that you will be persecuted; that is, if you are living for Christ. i.This is a demonstration of the righteousness of God when the world does not like His ways.
ii.Your reward in heaven will not be lost.
E.However, if you are never persecuted for your faith, perhaps you are not living it properly. This does not mean that if you are not persecuted you are not a good Christian. But, it does mean that the gospel offends people and you can suffer the consequences for it.
2.Verse 15, But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, A.The first command is to put Christ first in your heart. i.It is more important to love Jesus and follow Him your innermost being than it is to be able to give great answers to tough questions.
ii.This is because of the cross. Only because of the cross can we live for Jesus. We are redeemed by His blood and grace and it is He who empowers us to live for Him.
iii.Jesus said in Matt. 12:34, "Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks." - So, work on what is in your heart: attitude, focus, etc.
B.The second thing is to be ready to give an answer to everyone who asks... i.This is important for several reasons: a.It honors God
b.It strengthens your faith
c.It answers the questions of the unbeliever so they are without excuse.
C.But you need to know what you believe and why i.Have you studied your doctrines?
ii.Have you studied why you believe what you do?
iii.Are you ready to give answers to the unbelievers on why you oppose abortion, homosexuality, moral relativism, etc.?

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