Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 Full story: The Brussels Journal 207,506

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#162735 Feb 10, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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You a heathen says that but the Catholic Church does not. The Catholic
Church gave us the Holy Bible through the Holy Spirit and it is only through the Holy Spirit can the Holy Bible be properly understood.
You cannot call me a heathen. You just condemned yourself to hell, according to Jesus.

The Catholic Church cherry-picked gospels from the market or the streets, collected some letters and came up with the New Testament.

The Holy Spirit of Christianity does not exist.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#162736 Feb 10, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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lol..yes brother. Where do they learn their rubbish?
If he gets any harder he will break into many pieces!
I have yet to see a cognizant Christian, bro.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#162737 Feb 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
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You just told us the funniest joke. That is the problem with the God of your Bible, who says you sin, you die and go to hell.
But our God Almighty Allah says:
"Turn to Allah, repent sincerely and Allah will forgive all your sins."
and says again in another verse: "Surely, Allah will forgive all your sins!"
No words containing death threat and hell direct.
Even your God sent Jesus to hell first. Right? No wonder, Jesus suffered a double whammy!
These chaps have no self worth!
They think they are doomed sinners needing this retiired Jewish Messiah as their Gentile God to save them and give them eternal life!

There is NOT A SINGLE PERSON in existence who believed in this nonsense who can come forward and vouch for his/her eternal life!!

The funny part is this....the fools thought they would have eternal life on planet earth! Not a single person has conquered death although they keep claiming that!
Their ignorant cult is finished!

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#162738 Feb 10, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>You are ignorant Muslim.
Muslim Allah God is a fake.
Muslims believe in the God of Abraham.

Was Abraham's God a fake?
seriously

Wolverhampton, UK

#162739 Feb 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Yes, he had.
He spoke about many prophets of the past, such as Noah, Lot, Abraham, His sons Ishamel and Issac, Jacob, Joseph, Job, David, Solomon, Moses, Aaaron, others, Zechariah, John and Jesus.
Now, were all these demons, about whom he talked and whom Qur'aan mentioned?
Even Jesus had nothing to do with either the first five books or the entire book collection, known as the Jewish holy Scriptures.
That Jesus expelled demons living in humans, IS ABSURD, RUBBISH and a HORSE SHIT!!!
Jesus simply wasted time in Tu Quoque with the Jews. Had Muhammad been there with Jesus, Jesus would have learnt how to argue and reason with people nicely.
As for being slaves/servants of Satan, one can safely say that Paul, John and the Church fathers were truly the slaves/servants and the minions of Satan.
Don't give me all this garbage.Satan was using Muhammad as a mouthpiece !Muhammad was A LIAR ? he was a liar from birth to death...
Muhammad worshiped Satan/Allah,Muhammad was Satan's/Allahs Messenger,that is the truth !...
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#162740 Feb 10, 2013
seriously wrote:
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Don't give me all this garbage.Satan was using Muhammad as a mouthpiece !Muhammad was A LIAR ? he was a liar from birth to death...
Muhammad worshiped Satan/Allah,Muhammad was Satan's/Allahs Messenger,that is the truth !...
Hey foolish person...
Get yourself a copy of the HOLY BIBLE in Arabic.
You will find in it...GOD THE FATHER IN HEAVEN is ALLAH.
YEs, ALLAH!! ALLAH!!

Also how about Jesus praying in ARAMAIC to GOD.....
What does he call his God in Armaic...ALAAH.....

Learn a bit of Hebrew Aramaic and Arabic and you will NEVER worship a Jewish man as your God!
You are a HUGE sinner who worships a Jewish man (who came only for the Jews) as your god!
Hell is your abode boy.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#162741 Feb 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
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I have yet to see a cognizant Christian, bro.
or even a compos mentis one!
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#162743 Feb 10, 2013
******Since when do you make God out of inept/incompetent/struggling retired Jewish Messiah's?

****** The qualification to be a Christian God: "You got to be a struggling/failing retired Jewish Messiah rejected by the VERY people to whom you were sent!!"

******* Struggling/Failing/Reitred/Rej ected Jewish Messiah= Christian God?
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#162744 Feb 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
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You cannot call me a heathen. You just condemned yourself to hell, according to Jesus.
The Catholic Church cherry-picked gospels from the market or the streets, collected some letters and came up with the New Testament.
The Holy Spirit of Christianity does not exist.
Not suprised hearing that from a heathen.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#162745 Feb 10, 2013
seriously wrote:
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Don't give me all this garbage.Satan was using Muhammad as a mouthpiece !Muhammad was A LIAR ? he was a liar from birth to death...
Muhammad worshiped Satan/Allah,Muhammad was Satan's/Allahs Messenger,that is the truth !...
That is not true.

Satan was actually more active with Jesus. After Jesus went into hiding, Satan masqueraded as light in broad day light and Paul thought it was Jesus. And you know what happened after that. Every doctrine was inspired by Satan. This is a fact which no one can deny!

Christianity is actually Satan's revenge against Jesus.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#162746 Feb 10, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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Not suprised hearing that from a heathen.
Don't believe me? Ask the heathen Church of any kind, Paul.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#162747 Feb 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Muslims believe in the God of Abraham.
Was Abraham's God a fake?
muslims do not believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. God said: "I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob." This is not your God! Your god is a book written by some 7th century war lord; along with many other pagan rituals, seasons, moon worship, black stone worhsip, mecca worship, etc. muslims throughout the world bow down to a city!!!!
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#162748 Feb 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
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That is not true.
Satan was actually more active with Jesus. After Jesus went into hiding, Satan masqueraded as light in broad day light and Paul thought it was Jesus. And you know what happened after that. Every doctrine was inspired by Satan. This is a fact which no one can deny!
Christianity is actually Satan's revenge against Jesus.
No scholars agree with what you posted, but they do agree the original koran contained satanic verses. Even muslim scholars believe the original koran contained satanic verses!
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#162749 Feb 10, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Don't believe me? Ask the heathen Church of any kind, Paul.
There are no scholars that agree with what you post here.

Scholars should re-define Heathen and leave islam out as an Abrahamic religion. You try re-defining the Trinity, so I will re-define Heathen by leaving islam out of it.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#162750 Feb 10, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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muslims do not believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. God said: "I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob." This is not your God! Your god is a book written by some 7th century war lord; along with many other pagan rituals, seasons, moon worship, black stone worhsip, mecca worship, etc. muslims throughout the world bow down to a city!!!!
A case of mistaken identity....
The RC Church does NOT believe in the God of Abraham.
It worships a naked man believing him to be "jesus" the messiah who came only for Jews, further mistaking him for "god" of gentiles!
...the naked man on pole is not jesus.
... jesus did not come for gentiles.
... jesus was just a messiah sent for the Jews
Trinity of mistakes and errors!

The TRUE God of Abraham NEVER came to die for gentiles on a roman cross to make the whole process even more comical.
The concept of sacrifice is "Jewish" and naive RC church didn't even know the basic requirements.
Otherwise, they would have chopped the head off the "lamb"...sprinkled his blood and eaten him that night!!!

Paul WV...your cult is steeped in ignorance.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#162751 Feb 10, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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Constantine's sister could not speak for the Holy Spirit. Only the pope in union with the bishops can speak for the Holy Spirit/God. This makes your argument moot.
The very first "POPE" was branded as Satan by Jesus?
Did Holy spirit tell him to cut ear off a servant?
Did holy spirit tell him to flee?
Did holy spirit tell him to lie?
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#162752 Feb 10, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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If you wipe yourself with the wrong hand, will you go to hell?
There is a "hadith" i am sure about using rubber gloves which means both hands can be used!
But I am quite sure that I will be well beaten by the chap who goes to hell for worshipping a non existent trinity.

Back to B/JESUS the perfect lamb....

On Sabbath Eve.
Even if the eve of the Passover fell on a Sabbath, B/JESUS,(1) the paschal lamb was killed in the manner described above,(2) the blood was sprinkled on the altar,(3) the entrails removed and cleansed, and (4) the fat offered on the altar; for these four ceremonies in the case of B/JESUS, the paschal lamb, and these alone, were exempt from the prohibition against working on the Sabbath.

The Three Groups of Laity.
The people taking part in the sacrifice of B/JESUS were divided into three groups.(TRINITY!!!!)

The first of these filled the court of the Temple, so that the gates had to be closed, and while they were KILLING and offering B/JESUS THE SON, their paschal lambs the LEVITES on the platform ("dukan") RECITED the "Hallel" (Ps. cxiii.-cxviii.), accompanied by INSTRUMENTS of BRASS.

As soon as the first group had offered their sacrifice (B/JESUS THE SON?), the gates were opened to let them out, and their places were taken by the second (TO SACRIFICE THE FATHER?)and third groups (TO SACRIFICE THE GHOST?) successively.

All three groups offered their sacrifice in the manner described, while the "Hallel" was recited; but the third group was so small that it had always finished before the Levites reached Ps. cxvi.

It was called the "group of the lazy" because it came last. Even if the majority of the people were ritually unclean on the eve of the Passover, the sacrifice was offered on the 14th of Nisan. Other sacrifices, on the contrary, called "&#7717;agigah," which were offered together with the paschal lamb, were omitted if the eve of the Passover fell on a Sabbath, or if the sacrifice was offered in a state of uncleanness, or if the number of participants was so small that they could not consume all the meat.

When the sacrifice was completed and the victim was ready for ROASTING, each one present CARRIED HIS B/JESUS the lamb home, except when the eve of the Passover fell on a Sabbath, in which case it might not be taken away.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#162753 Feb 10, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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If you wipe yourself with the wrong hand, will you go to hell?
When the sacrifice was completed and the victim was ready for ROASTING, each one present CARRIED HIS B/JESUS the lamb home, except when the eve of the Passover fell on a Sabbath, in which case it might not be taken away.

THE FATE OF THE PERFECT LAMB.....

The Home Ceremony.
The FIRST GROUP stationed itself on the MOUNT of the TEMPLE, the SECOND GROUP in the "HEL," the space between the Temple wall and the Temple hall, while the THIRD GROUP remained in the TEMPLE COURT, thus awaiting the evening, when they took their B/JESUS the LAMB home and ROASTED him on a spit of pomegranate-wood.
NO BONES MIGHT BE BROKEN (thanks to JOHN written 200 PLUS years later!) either during the COOKING or during the EATING.

B/JESUS the LAMB WAS SET on THE TABLE AT THE EVENING BANQUET(see Seder), AND WAS EATEN BY ASSEMBLED COMPANY after all had satisfied their appetites with the &#7717;agigah or other food.

B/JESUS the SACRIFICE HAD to be CONSUMED ENTIRELY THAT SAME EVENING, NOTHING BEING ALLOWED TO REMAIN OVERNIGHT.

While eating B/JESUS, the entire company of those who partook was obliged to remain together, and every participant had to take a PIECE of B/JESUS, the lamb at least as large as an olive.

Women and girls also might take part in the banquet and eat of B/JESUS, the sacrifice.

The following benediction was pronounced before eating B/JESUS, the lamb (PAGANS PLEASE DON'T THINK THAT THEY ARE PRAYING TO THE LAMB!!! THEY ARE PRAYING TO GOD!!):

"Blessed be Thou, the Eternal, our God, the King of the world, who hast sanctified us by Thy commands, and hast ordained that we should eat B/JESUS the Passover." The "Hallel" was recited during the meal, and when B/JESUS, the LAMB had been EATEN the meaning of the custom was explained, and the story of the Exodus was told (see Seder).

B/JESUS the paschal sacrifice belongs to the "shelamim," thus forming one of the sacrifices in which the meal is the principal part and indicates the community between God and man.

It is really a house or family sacrifice, and each household is regarded as constituting a small community in itself, not only because B/JESUS the lamb is eaten at home, but also because every member of the family is obliged to partake of the B/JESUS meal, on pain of excommunication ("karet"), although each man must be CIRCUMCISED and all must be ritually clean.

The fact that B/JESUS the Paschal lamb might be KILLED ONLY at the central sanctuary of Jerusalem, on the other hand, implies that each household was but a member of the larger community; and this is indicated also by the NATIONAL CHARACTER (!!!) of the sacrifice, which kept alive in the memory of the nation the preservation and liberation of the entire people.

THERE YOU GO... THE JEWS ATE HIM!!!
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#162754 Feb 10, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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There are no scholars that agree with what you post here.
Scholars should re-define Heathen and leave islam out as an Abrahamic religion. You try re-defining the Trinity, so I will re-define Heathen by leaving islam out of it.
there are no scholars in your cult...period!
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#162755 Feb 10, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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Jesus fulfilled the Prophets. All was done according to God's will.
What do you mean "he fulfilled"?
The sacrifice is not according to the proper procedures laid out by the people to whom he belonged.

The whole idea of perfect sacrifice free from blemish comes from Jews.

Perhaps your "god"'s will got messed up...he may have planned to get his son's head chopped off in temple according to the correct procedures but the Romans beat him to it by nailing the son to the cross?

This "fulfilment" is yet another lie.
If the man did his job properly there will be NO NEED for this silent creepy ghost to turn up!
The presence of the spine chilling ghost inside every nutcase in itselfis proof that the man failed to achieve his goal.

The cup is empty as the levites & co could not catch enough blood to sprinkle on altar plus no meat to eat.

Mission Failure. Mission aborted temporarily.

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