Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 Full story: The Brussels Journal 203,426

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Paul WV

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#162502 Feb 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Excerpts from the Gospel of Barnabas, Part-47
Chapter 98 Miracle of the Fish
When the greater part of the crowd had departed, there remained about five thousand men, without women and children who being wearied by the journey, having been two days without bread, for that through longing to see Jesus they had forgotten to bring any, whereupon they ate raw herbs therefore they were not able to depart like the others. Then Jesus, when he perceived this, had pity on them, and said to Philip: "Where shall we find bread for them that they perish not of hunger?" Philip answered: "Lord, two hundred pieces of gold could not buy so much bread that each one should taste a little." Then said Andrew: "There is here a child which has five loaves and two fishes, but what will it be among so many?"
Jesus answered: "Make the multitude sit down" And they sat down upon the grass by fifties and by forties. Thereupon said Jesus: "In the name of God!" And he took the bread, and prayed to God and then brake the bread, which he gave to the disciples, and the disciples gave it to the multitude; and so did they with the fishes. Every one ate and every one was satisfied. Then Jesus said: "Gather up that which is over." So the disciples gathered those fragments, and filled twelve baskets...
(This miracle is confirmed in all Gospels- MUQ)
(Abridged)
Chapter 99 Jesus fears from his people
Jesus, having withdrawn into a hollow part of the desert in Tiro near to Jordan, called together the seventy-two with the twelve, and, when he had seated himself upon a stone, made them to sit near him. And he opened his mouth with a sigh and said: "This day have we seen a great wickedness in Judea and in Israel such that my heart trembles within my breast for fear of God. Truly I say to you, that God is jealous for his honour, and loves Israel as a lover. You know that when a youth loves a lady, and she does not love him, but another, he is moved to indignation and slays his rival. Even so, I tell you, does God: for, when Israel has loved anything such that he forgets God, God has brought such a thing to nothing.
Abraham loved his son Ishmael a little more than was right, so in order to kill that evil love out of the heart of Abraham, God commanded that he should slay his son: which he would have done had the knife cut.* David loved Absalom vehemently, and therefore God brought it to pass that the son rebelled against his father and was suspended by his hair and slain by Joab. O fearful judgment of God, that Absalom loved his hair above all things, and this was turned into a rope to hang him!
Does the gospel of barnabas agree with the Holy Bible? NO! Therefor it rejected as a false gospel; most likely wirten in the 16th century.

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#162503 Feb 9, 2013
What UHUH equivocates should be stated as : those text that are sanctified to g-d, should be kept/entombed in the Genizah.

The inspired word: see catholic encyclopedia that considers all text to be so if they give a positive image of the Universalism they promote.
Therefore you find only those in the N.T. and is the socalled .T'adjusted, and can to christians only be interpreted in the way they learned.
Struggling mightely with a different earlier exegesis.

Perhaps the 2 most famous subjects associated with Jewish Cairo are the Rambam and the Cairo Genizah
It even appears that Manuscripts in the Rambam's own hand have been discovered there.

The Rambam in Yesodei HaTorah 6:8 seems to require Genizah ONLY for Sifre Torah. While the Touger edition cites SA YD 282:23 as well as the Magen Avraham 154:9 "differ and require all sacred texts to be entombed."

This Humra seems to go beyond the Rambam's requirement. However the Genizah in Cairo had many holy texts aside from Sifrei Torah. Was the Cairo community Machmir despite the Rambam? Or did the Rambam himself communicate a more strict version of this Halachah outside the precincts of his Mishneh Torah and this extra-textual version survived.

Or perhaps there was another dynamic at work here?

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Paul WV

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#162504 Feb 9, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Christians do not believe in one God. Period! There is no need to provide any link.
They believe in one Godhead.
In that Godhead Bubble, there are THREE DISTINCT and CO-EQUAL PERSONS.
The first of the alleged three, is God the Father, who is neither the Son nor the Holy Ghost.
The second of the alleged three, is God the Son, who is neither the Father nor the Holy Ghost.
The third of the alleged three is God the Holy Ghost, who is neither the Father nor the Son.
This is the One God of Christianity.
Christians believe in only one God, else prove with links to Christian sites saying teaching otherwise. Saying Christians believe in more than one God is a lie told by muslims.

How many goddess did mohammad believe in and was in the 'original' knoran?
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#162505 Feb 9, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Could you enlighten us about the part played by Issac in your Christian salvation history?
What was God's plan? And what was that covenant which was established with Issac?
Please list up Issac's achievements and how does he fit in the tapestry of Christianity?
Please try to do that in your usual 2-3 liners.
"But my covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you by this time next year." Gen. 17:21

The rest of salvation history of God working in history can now be found in the Holy Bible.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#162506 Feb 9, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Please stop lying. The last time the Church fathers lied through there dentures, they came up with the abomination and absurdity known as Trinity.
Only your Christian God has a son. Right? My point is that God has no son.
If Jesus, the alleged son is God, then your God must have made love with a Goddess. That is the point.
So, you (the Christians) have a father God, a mother God and a son God. Son of God cannot come through a woman. It has to come through a Goddess. So, Mary is your Goddess. lol!
So, the revised Trinity should be God the Father, Goddess the Mother and God the Son.
Link some scholars who agree with your contention that there are goddess.

You have such a childish understanding of God. Only feeble minded people would be persuaded by your arguments. Any cursory research into what Christians believe will show they only believe in one God and do not believe in goddess as muslims do. mohammad in the 'original' koran wanted three goddess to help them. He later took it out when it did not fool his enemies.

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#162507 Feb 9, 2013
The point would not be that the person has a different god or no god, but that he is not part of the tribe, he's a non-jew.
It's a meaningless act. Copying without understanding.
(This is the law on the the table, pall. The former comment was about mishnah.)
We are thus not even talking about translation or even anything called OT. But i'll read the text.)

when a person writes a sefer torah he or she does fulfill a ritual duty (after all, we do have to produce Torah scrolls for the purpose of public reading), whether or not there exists a specific requirement that each and every Jew perform the act of writing.

And some greek pampleths might have been produced with snippets of the torah, but text-analysis seems to point out that the first greek version is no older than the oldest book commissioned by Eusebius, so around the 4th century also.
The 70 of ptolomeas is a myth.

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#162508 Feb 9, 2013
Muslims are the most violent group of People in the World.

There have been 20,365 DEADLY ISLAMIC TERRORIST ATTACKS SINCE 9/11/2001.

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#162509 Feb 9, 2013
A gentile follows his own intentions...yup!
But he might be an actual atheist. One who does not believe in any god, let alone in YHWH.
Yeah UHUH making it up again:

it starts with small texts for the little boxes and the requirement.
[...]
Halacha 13
A Torah scroll, tefillin, or mezuzah written by an apikoros should be burned. If they were written by a gentile, an apostate Jew, a person who betrays [the Jews] to a powerful person, a slave, a woman, or a minor, they are not acceptable and must be entombed, as [implied by Deuteronomy 6:8-9]: "And you shall tie... and you shall write." [Our Sages explain that this includes only] those who are commanded to tie [tefillin on their arms] and those who believe in what they write.

[Sacred articles] which are found in the possession of an apikoros, and it is not known who wrote them, should be entombed. Those which are found in the possession of a gentile are kosher. We should not, however, purchase Torah scrolls, tefillin, or mezuzot from gentiles for more than they are worth, so that they do not become accustomed to stealing them.

[...]
The interesting thing is that the oldest 7th c.CE almost complete bible found before the codex Sinaiticus, and the rest, was indeed found in a grave.

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#162510 Feb 9, 2013
Muslims Abduct, Attempt to Convert 13-Year-Old Coptic Girl... http://www.aina.org/news/20130202195322.htm The word "allah" is sickening.

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#162511 Feb 9, 2013
crimes4allah wrote:
Muslims are the most violent group of People in the World.
There have been 20,365 DEADLY ISLAMIC TERRORIST ATTACKS SINCE 9/11/2001.
I'll bet Mali was not counted along, and since when are the touaregs not the dregs of the earth.
They've killed more people then we are aware of.

I was absolutely amazed to hear whities complain about human rights abuse of the poor desert people.
They cut you, maim, rape, kill, steal everything, kidnap, and leave people behind to die in the desert.
Total ruthless scum. No honour whatsoever.

Ask why the Paris-Dakar is no longer held in Africa!

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#162513 Feb 9, 2013
Muslims kill more muslims than any group of people in the world!

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#162515 Feb 9, 2013
pg 7637
It was decided by committee how old jesus should be. 33 is just at the cusp of being called an elder and thus being able to call the fiction a rabbee.

I says nothing of the historicity, apart from knowing that the matter was discussed and the text adapted according to the vote.

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bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Christians do not believe in one God. Period! There is no need to provide any link.
They believe in one Godhead.
In that Godhead Bubble, there are THREE DISTINCT and CO-EQUAL PERSONS.
The first of the alleged three, is God the Father, who is neither the Son nor the Holy Ghost.
The second of the alleged three, is God the Son, who is neither the Father nor the Holy Ghost.
The third of the alleged three is God the Holy Ghost, who is neither the Father nor the Son.
This is the One God of Christianity.

PVW: Christians believe in only one God, else prove with links to Christian sites saying teaching otherwise. Saying Christians believe in more than one God is a lie told by muslims.
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Well that could've come straight from the catechism.
Besides Mary is the mother of God.
She either did a biologically impossible thing.
Or as teh Vaticn decided she is also received immaculately and therefore could receive immaculately.
So keep this logic going, this means that she is either from a long line of women with the most remarkable genetic abberancy ever or as her name allready denotes she is an ancient prototype of a sea-goddess.

Baal had a son Tammuz.
YHVH shall no longer be Baal.
A split.
But this does not mean that the idea died.
And did not keep vigorating in Syria where christianity first took root.
Asherah was also kept alive till well in the 4th to even 6th century of the Common Era!

So history and the understanding that 'holding none before me', does not mean that you have to deny every other god away, or consider them inferior, and the people along.
No my main responsibility would be with YHWH. The Torah's word also comes first.
(That is why UHUH's interpretation limped.)

But that trinity is seriously contradicting matters.
And the koraan tells stories just different and has different rules that are often closer to vigorating christianity in the prophtes day.

Jesus would be seen as a prophet, so who ahmad/comforter is, is still anyones guess!

bmz

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#162516 Feb 9, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
"But my covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you by this time next year." Gen. 17:21
The rest of salvation history of God working in history can now be found in the Holy Bible.
So, what is that junk salvation history? Please address the following questions, which you did not answer:

Could you enlighten us about the part played by Issac in your Christian salvation history?

What was God's plan? And what was that covenant which was established with Issac?

Please list up Issac's achievements and how does he fit in the tapestry of Christianity?

Please try to do that in your usual 2-3 liners.

Bonus question and I need a better hilarious answer:

What has Issac got to do with Jesus? Did Jesus even utter Issac's name once?

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#162517 Feb 9, 2013
What is a god born from a god and a mortal called: a demi-god.

Paul VW if you read the link i gave you would have seen that the first comparison was not with a god, but (aramaic wrongly translated 'son of the governor'...)but with a messenger, angel in christian speak. Mechelzedek by extention an Elohim, thus that became god-alike, for they had translated it so.

The discussion in John might as well have been about claiming rule over the am-ha-ra.
So the actual elders were called in.
They by the way were also replaced by a theme more sympathetic to the greeks and romans.
The sanhendrin was not allowed to deliver big life and death sentences.

But on the whole i lean to the reading of the gospel as a play, written by josephus.
Given that the spanish and Istalian folklore has the names ofthe fellow criminals als variations of Gaius and Titus.
And the codex sinaiticus uses in greek IUXU commoner, and in romanized greek Gaia as name for
later inserted jesus.

(Yeshua is weird feminin aramic. Simply wrong. Not read anywhere in that form in the tanakh.)

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#162520 Feb 9, 2013
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/pius_xii/ap...
munificentissimus deus 1950

Read carefully, SHE was immaculately received!
So what does this make her mother!
Because by this mere immaculate reception christians declare Jesus a son of god.
Based on a wrong interpretation of alma.
And son of governor' wrongly interpreted as reading son of god.

And because of the theology of John, a god.
Though the extended version of Matthew (so not the early one) endorses that view.

But later she was declared the new Eve, the mother of the church.

FGS the women gave birth to an entire building!
Only goddesses do that.:P)
And Mohammeds mum took care of the light-show.:)
Folklore is wonderfull.

She unlike Jesus, did go straight to heaven.
the story about jesus resurrection is so vague that not even the Vatican endorses it.

It's again Dogma, an article of faith.
You accept it but it's not a material fact.
The Vatican kind of has standards in these matters.

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#162522 Feb 9, 2013
Early christianity:
1 A cup of milk was offered to me: and I drank it in the sweetness of the delight of the Lord. 2 The Son is the cup and He who was milked is the Father: 3 And the Holy Spirit milked Him: because His breasts were full, and it was necessary for Him that His milk should be sufficiently released; 4 And the Holy Spirit opened His bosom and mingled the milk from the two breasts of the Father and gave the mixture to the world without their knowing: 5 And they who receive in its fulness are the ones on the right hand. 6 The Spirit opened the womb of the Virgin and she received conception and brought forth; and the Virgin became a Mother with many mercies; 7 And she travailed and brought forth a Son, without incurring pain; 8 And because she was not sufficiently prepared, and she had not sought a midwife (for He brought her to bear) she brought forth, as if she were a man, of her own will; 9 And she brought Him forth openly, and acquired Him with great dignity, 10 And loved Him in His swaddling clothes and guarded Him kindly, and showed Him in Majesty. Hallelujah.

ODES OF SOLOMON
http://www.goodnewsinc.net/othbooks/odesolmn....

The geneological line of Mary jumps to that of the male side.
Otherwise we could have followed a string of goddesses, all the way back to the original.
Though morning-star that jesus was compared with for along time, is a good hint.

Bgat-adopted.
This translation is used a lot, obscuring actual adoptions into the tribe.
And a child good be given to a couple by the temple.
So one folklore was about Mary being a temple-singer.
it all makes no real sense in the hebrew way, therefore they had their jokes too.

And for some weird reason christians cannot abide that.
Deep brainwash i say.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#162523 Feb 9, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
ISLAM: A POLYTHEISTIC RELIGION
........4:80 "He who obeys the Messenger obeys Allah."
(That means that the will of Muhammad is the will of Allah) Muhammad being a human may order something foolish, but... never mind this is what Allah wants....
To the linguistically challenged from the land of 99% "ex" fascists who murdered Jews in their millions.....

...He who obeys the judge or policeman obeys the ruler of the land
who enforces the law through these people...

Now according to our moron from ex fascist land...it means..
"(That means that the will of judge or policeman is the will of Ruler) Judge/policeman may order something foolish, but... never mind this is what the Ruler Allah wants...."

There you go moronic closet christian from the land that "hated" jews!

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#162524 Feb 9, 2013
If you read John, it is almost as if you can follow verbatim some of the discussions the churchfathers had.
Alex123 aka WM

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#162525 Feb 9, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
So, what is that junk salvation history? Please address the following questions, which you did not answer:

Could you enlighten us about the part played by Issac in your Christian salvation history?

What was God's plan? And what was that covenant which was established with Issac?

Please list up Issac's achievements and how does he fit in the tapestry of Christianity?

Please try to do that in your usual 2-3 liners.

Bonus question and I need a better hilarious answer:

What has Issac got to do with Jesus? Did Jesus even utter Issac's name once?
lol...Absolutely brother!
I have asked him about Abraham and Jacob too!! What have they got to do with him?

He repeats "mantras" without bothering to look into the veracity of his dumb claims.

does he think Isaac gives two hoots about him or "christians"?
Isaac would chuck him and "christians" in a huge bin as idol worshipping gentiles!
Salaams
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#162526 Feb 9, 2013
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>Boy, are you willfully ignorant, or just plain stupid?
And those Messengers, SOME We have preferred above others; some there are to whom God spoke, and SOME He raised in rank. And We gave Jesus son of Mary the clear signs, and confirmed him with the Holy Spirit. Qur'an 2:253
Take your meds.
I repeat...bu(tteredbuttturdlick )ford...

Holy Prophet Muhammed expressed no admiration whatsoever for BJ the gentile clown that you CREATED and worship! If this CREATED gentle clown claims that he came for gentles then he is indeed a BIG lying clown who is rejected by Islam.

Jesus Christ PBUH was a Jewish MAN who claimed he came only for the Jews and this is the Jesus Christ PBUH, that Islam refers to, loves and respects!!

You NEED your meds.

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