Who Is Allah?

There are 20 comments on the Aug 24, 2007, The Brussels Journal story titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

Alex123 aka Wm

London, UK

#162385 Feb 8, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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God made His covenant with Isaac: Genesis 17 21 But my covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you by this time next year.”
ishmel plays no part in salvation history.
Rubbish!!!!
These books were written by the people if Isaac!!
What do you expect them to say?

In any event...what has that got to do with YOU, an outsider..a Goyim?

When did they establish anything with YOU. You believe lies pumped by your "church"!!
Have you no shame?

They don't want you because you worship a naked man calling him "jesus"!!!
Alex123 aka Wm

London, UK

#162387 Feb 8, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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Christians believe in one God, prove they believe in more than one God. Give link to Christians teaching there is more than one God.
Here you are Paul WV..........

Who is the REAL God from this list so I can embrace him:
Please point him out. Thanks....

1. God= father of son of "GOD"
2. God= father of son of "god the father"
3. God= ghost of father of son of "GOD"
4. God= ghost of father of son of "god the father"
5. God= spirit of father of son of "GOD"

6. God= spirit of father of son of "god the father"
7. God= son of man (son of Adam)
8. God= son of man (son of David)
9. God= son of man (son of Joseph)
10. God= son of "GOD" (who encompasses god the father)
11. God= son of "god the father" (who is part of GOD)
12. God= son of god the Holy Spirit (who is part of GOD)
13. God= son of god the holy ghost (who is part of GOD)
14. God= ghost of son of man (son of Adam)
15. God= ghost of son of man (son of David)
16. God= ghost of son of man (son of Joseph)
17. God= ghost of son of "GOD"
18. God= ghost of son of "god the father"
19. God= ghost of son of "god the holy spirit"
20. God= ghost of son of "god the holy ghost"
21. God= spirit of son of man (son of Adam)
22. God= spirit of son of man (son of David)
23. God= spirit of son of man (son of Joseph)
24. God= spirit of son of "GOD"
25. God= spirit of son of "god the father"
26. God= spirit of son of "god the holy spirit"
27. God= spirit of son of "god the holy ghost"
28. God= ghost of spirit of father of son of "GOD"
29. God= ghost of spirit of father of son of "god the father"
30. God= ghost of spirit of son of man (son of Adam)
31. God= ghost of spirit of son of man (son of David)
32. God= ghost of spirit of son of man (son of Joseph)
33. God= ghost of spirit of son of "GOD"
34. God= ghost of spirit of son of "god the father"
35. God= ghost of spirit of son of god the holy spirit
36. God= ghost of spirit of son of god the holy ghost
37. God= spirit of ghost father of son of "GOD"
38. God= spirit of ghost of father of son of "god the father"
39. God= spirit of ghost of son of man (son of Adam)
40. God= spirit of ghost of son of man (son of David)
41. God= spirit of ghost of son of man (son of Joseph)
42. God= spirit of ghost of son of "GOD"
43. God= spirit of ghost of son of "god the father"
44. God= spirit of ghost of son of god the holy spirit
45. God= spirit of ghost of son of god the holy ghost
46. God= "Risen" Jesus
47. God= "Risen" son of man (son of Adam)
48. God= "Risen" son of man (son of David)
49. God= "Risen" son of man (son of Joseph)
50. God= "Risen" son of "God"
51. God= "Risen" son of "god the father"
52. God= "Risen" son of "god the holy spirit"
53. God= "Risen" son of "god the holy ghost"
54. God= "Lord" of St Paul
55. God= "Christ" of St Paul
56. God= Millions of "Jesus" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
57. God= Millions of "Holy Spirits" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
58. God= Millions of "Holy Ghosts" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
59. God= The Jesus in heaven sitting on his own right hand watching himself VINDICTIVELY making footstool of enemies.

60. God= ALL of the above
61. God= NONE of the above
62. God= Any more to be added to the above (*********

thanks

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#162388 Feb 8, 2013
ISLAM: A POLYTHEISTIC RELIGION

Even though in Islam there is only one god, Allah it is strange that a certain person is somehow lifted at the same level of god. Let us see few examples taken from Quran.

4:80 "He who obeys the Messenger obeys Allah."
(That means that the will of Muhammad is the will of Allah) Muhammad being a human may order something foolish, but... never mind this is what Allah wants.

33:36 "No Muslim has any choice after Allah and His Apostle have decided a matter."
What if the matter decided by Muhammad was silly? Well no choice say Allah, innocents may die without reasons.

33:53 “Never offend the prophet nor marry his wives after he will be dead, it will be an insult for Allah”
Look what Muhammad has to invent in order to not let others to touch his wives.

33:57 "Those who speak negatively of Allah and His Apostle shall be cursed."
Again Muhammad is put at the same level of Allah

59:6 "Allah gives his Messenger Lordship and Power over whomever He wills."
Ad over who Allah wills Muhammad has lordship and power? Too bad there is not written. The pedophile has free card to who he wants then.

Another point is the shahada that each Muslims have to say:
There is no god but God, Muhammad is the messenger of God.

How one knows Muhammad is the messenger of god? Because he said to have had a revelation and was told so? LOL

And so, Allah along with Muhammad are worshiped.

The last thing to be worshiped in Islam is the Ka'ba.

Muslims are ordered to go there, and worship it (kiss it, touch it ect) It's only a rock fallen from the sky. Why so much interest for it?

Three objects are being worshipped in Islam, one is known as god while the other two are not officially recognized so, but they are, however worshiped, and kept in great consideration, even too much if we consider one is just a human while the other a rock.

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#162390 Feb 8, 2013
Alex123 aka Wm wrote:
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Here you are Paul WV..........
Who is the REAL God from this list so I can embrace him:
Please point him out. Thanks....
1. God= father of son of "GOD"
2. God= father of son of "god the father"
3. God= ghost of father of son of "GOD"
4. God= ghost of father of son of "god the father"
5. God= spirit of father of son of "GOD"
6. God= spirit of father of son of "god the father"
7. God= son of man (son of Adam)
8. God= son of man (son of David)
9. God= son of man (son of Joseph)
10. God= son of "GOD" (who encompasses god the father)
11. God= son of "god the father" (who is part of GOD)
12. God= son of god the Holy Spirit (who is part of GOD)
13. God= son of god the holy ghost (who is part of GOD)
14. God= ghost of son of man (son of Adam)
15. God= ghost of son of man (son of David)
16. God= ghost of son of man (son of Joseph)
17. God= ghost of son of "GOD"
18. God= ghost of son of "god the father"
19. God= ghost of son of "god the holy spirit"
20. God= ghost of son of "god the holy ghost"
21. God= spirit of son of man (son of Adam)
22. God= spirit of son of man (son of David)
23. God= spirit of son of man (son of Joseph)
24. God= spirit of son of "GOD"
25. God= spirit of son of "god the father"
26. God= spirit of son of "god the holy spirit"
27. God= spirit of son of "god the holy ghost"
28. God= ghost of spirit of father of son of "GOD"
29. God= ghost of spirit of father of son of "god the father"
30. God= ghost of spirit of son of man (son of Adam)
31. God= ghost of spirit of son of man (son of David)
32. God= ghost of spirit of son of man (son of Joseph)
33. God= ghost of spirit of son of "GOD"
34. God= ghost of spirit of son of "god the father"
35. God= ghost of spirit of son of god the holy spirit
36. God= ghost of spirit of son of god the holy ghost
37. God= spirit of ghost father of son of "GOD"
38. God= spirit of ghost of father of son of "god the father"
39. God= spirit of ghost of son of man (son of Adam)
40. God= spirit of ghost of son of man (son of David)
41. God= spirit of ghost of son of man (son of Joseph)
42. God= spirit of ghost of son of "GOD"
43. God= spirit of ghost of son of "god the father"
44. God= spirit of ghost of son of god the holy spirit
45. God= spirit of ghost of son of god the holy ghost
46. God= "Risen" Jesus
47. God= "Risen" son of man (son of Adam)
48. God= "Risen" son of man (son of David)
49. God= "Risen" son of man (son of Joseph)
50. God= "Risen" son of "God"
51. God= "Risen" son of "god the father"
52. God= "Risen" son of "god the holy spirit"
53. God= "Risen" son of "god the holy ghost"
54. God= "Lord" of St Paul
55. God= "Christ" of St Paul
56. God= Millions of "Jesus" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
57. God= Millions of "Holy Spirits" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
58. God= Millions of "Holy Ghosts" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
59. God= The Jesus in heaven sitting on his own right hand watching himself VINDICTIVELY making footstool of enemies.
60. God= ALL of the above
61. God= NONE of the above
62. God= Any more to be added to the above (*********
thanks
Oh god!
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#162391 Feb 8, 2013
Irzath wrote:
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""""" """"" """"" "
Jesus is wrote:
CAN GOD HAVE A SON?
No, God CANNOT, because God is not a man.
God can beget only a God from a Godess
""""" """"" """"" ""
see how twisting you are.. how does this mean Quran says there is Goddess? or how does this mean BMZ believes in goddess existence?? his point is your belief is in goddess
BMZ means bible says god had child through a human lady. so you people made her goddess..
because you people believed human cant bear a god so you elevated her to god status.
you waiting for chance to blame him for what he didnt mean.
so now you tell me how mary became goddess..
The BV Mary is not a goddess. bmz said that god can only have a child by a goddess, so he must believe in goddesses; else his statement makes no sense. mohammad said there were three goddess in his koran and later took it out when he could not win over his enemy with saying this.
uhuh

Jumilla, Spain

#162392 Feb 8, 2013
Scripture written by an apikores should be burned even with the Azkarot (God's name) in it.
(halacha in Mishneh Torah and Shulchan Aruch, from Talmud Gittin 45b)

Rashi: "apikores" is one who based his corrupt faith on the Torah (i.e. christians, who else?)

OT is not Holy Scripture to Jews
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#162394 Feb 8, 2013
Irzath wrote:
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Mark 12:29
Jesus answered,“The most important is,‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
So you means you believe that there is only one god who was addressed by jesus in above verse...that means you also believe jesus is not god and also no spirit god exist????????..
There is only one God; Jesus is God, the Father is God and the Holy Spirit is God. Can't wrap your little mind around that can you? Christians, even Christian grade schoolers, can understand this. Maybe muslims have not evolved enough to understand this.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#162395 Feb 8, 2013
Irzath wrote:
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oh god so sad your bible lied to you..every prophet in history played role in salvation..so is abraham isaac so is ismael . so is jesus. so is Muhammed
ishmael and mohammad were not prophets of God. The bible does not talk to it can not lie, but maybe your koran idol can speak an lie to you.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#162397 Feb 8, 2013
Irzath wrote:
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Oh god!
Thats the sound your wife made

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#162398 Feb 8, 2013
uhuh wrote:
Scripture written by an apikores should be burned even with the Azkarot (God's name) in it.
(halacha in Mishneh Torah and Shulchan Aruch, from Talmud Gittin 45b)
Rashi: "apikores" is one who based his corrupt faith on the Torah (i.e. christians, who else?)
OT is not Holy Scripture to Jews
exactly where in this does it say that??

http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx...

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#162399 Feb 8, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
ISLAM: A POLYTHEISTIC RELIGION
Even though in Islam there is only one god, Allah it is strange that a certain person is somehow lifted at the same level of god. Let us see few examples taken from Quran.
4:80 "He who obeys the Messenger obeys Allah."
(That means that the will of Muhammad is the will of Allah) Muhammad being a human may order something foolish, but... never mind this is what Allah wants.
in an office you do as your immediate supervisor say and you report to your immediate supervisor only. if you just do as as your supervisor says its sufficient.. logic isnt it. does that mean you elevate your supervisor to your manager.

4:80 "He who obeys the Messenger obeys Allah." which means command from muhammed is the command from allah not Muhammed himself said on his own.

Whatever Nabi (S.A.W) uttered is "wahi" (Revelation). Surah 53:3-4 says that he does not speak of his own desire but it is a revelation sent to him. Therefore whatever speech Nabi (S.A.W) uttered in life and acted upon was revelation from God.

According to the Bible God said to Moses: "I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him." (The Holy Bible, New International Version, Deuteronomy chapter 18, verse 18).

John 14:26
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

then your logic affects this verses of bible too

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#162400 Feb 8, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Thats the sound your wife made
sorry i am not yet married. you mistook the sound of your mother as the sound my future wife.

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#162401 Feb 8, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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There is only one God; Jesus is God, the Father is God and the Holy Spirit is God. Can't wrap your little mind around that can you? Christians, even Christian grade schoolers, can understand this. Maybe muslims have not evolved enough to understand this.
please do explain

Jesus is god -1
father is god -1
Holy spirit is god -1

1+1+1=1!!!!!!!!!!what???and you teach your christian grade schoolers this ?? and they understand it?see thats a worst wrap

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#162402 Feb 8, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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The BV Mary is not a goddess. bmz said that god can only have a child by a goddess, so he must believe in goddesses; else his statement makes no sense. mohammad said there were three goddess in his koran and later took it out when he could not win over his enemy with saying this.
dont twist around. he answers "jesus IS" that god cannot have son without goddess.

he was saying god dont have son because there is no goddess exist..

Answer me this
how does that mean- BMZ who beleives in 1 god and no partner with god... is trying to say there is another goddess?your are just twister who tries find anything out of some thing else..

dont beat around bush ..its clear like crystal.. No other god except allah. thats what BMZ believes, i believe and we muslims believe, and Quran says nothing others than that. no goddess no son god , no spirit god , nothing god except allah.simple.

its not confusing like jesus is god , father is god, spirit is god but 1 god...

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#162403 Feb 8, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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There is only one God; Jesus is God, the Father is God and the Holy Spirit is God. Can't wrap your little mind around that can you? Christians, even Christian grade schoolers, can understand this. Maybe muslims have not evolved enough to understand this.
faith in god to you is evolution now?
then christian faith revealed first like snake is god or stone is god? something???

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#162404 Feb 8, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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There is only one God; Jesus is God, the Father is God and the Holy Spirit is God. Can't wrap your little mind around that can you? Christians, even Christian grade schoolers, can understand this. Maybe muslims have not evolved enough to understand this.
even jesus on his second return is not going to understand this....because he knows goad above heaven(1 god), but "jesus is god"

since when ...he didnt claimed god.and then the spirit. what?

i have a doubt does your so called spirit character have any major role in the story - BIBLE- written by Paul

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#162405 Feb 8, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Well said.
Paul has been told many lies by his church and he believes every one of them.
He cannot stop and think for himself!
When did Abraham or Isaac say they are linked to Paul?!!
Paul is so deluded that he removes Ishmael from his own father and puts himself forward as a "spiritual link"!
How stupid can one get?
Abraham and his nations are all linked to him by blood.
We may worship the GOD of Abraham/Noah/Adam but that does not mean we need approval from Abraham or Isaac or even Ishmael!!
Paul needs to get his brain re-programmed!
first fit one and then program....

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#162406 Feb 8, 2013
Irzath wrote:
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sorry i am not yet married. you mistook the sound of your mother as the sound my future wife.
You should of been pleased that at least someone could close the deal.

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#162407 Feb 8, 2013
Irzath wrote:
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please do explain
Jesus is god -1
father is god -1
Holy spirit is god -1
1+1+1=1!!!!!!!!!!what???and you teach your christian grade schoolers this ?? and they understand it?see thats a worst wrap
dont mis-estimate the utility of imaginary numbers

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#162408 Feb 8, 2013
Irzath wrote:
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in an office you do as your immediate supervisor say and you report to your immediate supervisor only. if you just do as as your supervisor says its sufficient.. logic isnt it. does that mean you elevate your supervisor to your manager.
That has nothing to do with Quran 4:80.
Irzath wrote:
<quoted text>4:80 "He who obeys the Messenger obeys Allah." which means command from muhammed is the command from allah not Muhammed himself said on his own.
How do you know what Muhammad ordered came from Allah? An important point is that you only know about Allah through Muhammad.
If Muhammad said something and people disagreed he can always recite that verse ( He who obeys the Messenger obeys Allah) and yet no one cant tell him nothing.

If Allah was real, it would be wise and beneficial to come in the open and tell to the entire community that Mu' is his prophet ect. The same goes for the other religions as well.
Irzath wrote:
<quoted text> Whatever Nabi (S.A.W) uttered is "wahi" (Revelation). Surah 53:3-4 says that he does not speak of his own desire but it is a revelation sent to him. Therefore whatever speech Nabi (S.A.W) uttered in life and acted upon was revelation from God.
Something like that you can read in the bible. The logic displyed is childish. I may say or do something and they are uttered. That does not mean they come from god. The funny thing is only those that are uttered comes from god, meaning that if a prophet can't accomplish something, it was because he did it by himself. Nice excuse these prophets have to invent to not lose credibility.
Irzath wrote:
<quoted text> According to the Bible God said to Moses: "I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him." (The Holy Bible, New International Version, Deuteronomy chapter 18, verse 18).
Have you not read the words "among their brothers"? Who are they? The same people who promised the Promise Land), hence a prophet of god among the Quraysh is disqualified and unsupported by the Bible.
Irzath wrote:
<quoted text>John 14:26
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.
then your logic affects this verses of bible too
have you not read the words "send in my name", " Muhammad had nothing to do with Yeshua.

"He will teach you". That 'you' is referred to the disciples so this comforter have to be around them and live in their age, not 600 years later.

Even with NT Muhammad can not be the paraclito. Once again misquoted and unspported from the Bible.

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