Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 Full story: The Brussels Journal 205,493

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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John

Brisbane, Australia

#161843 Feb 4, 2013
bmz wrote:
@ Paul
Please read my post to Dr. Knucklehead (Buford) and tell me why did Peter not baptise in the name of the alleged three?
Why did Peter baptise only in the name of Jesus?
It shows that some lying and evil spirit forced the Church fathers to forge "In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit".
And how can you guys gloat over this fraud and forgery in Matthews 28, when Peter baptized only in Jesus' name???
You've yet to show us links to the alleged earliest manuscripts in Greek without Matthew 28.
LOL.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161844 Feb 4, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you f**king retarded?
The Gospel Of Barnabas is an obvious medieval forgery and every body knows it.
Duh.
All gospels are full of forgeries and everybody knows that, including you. You can say that they are late 4th Century forgeries. The one by Barnabas sounds better than 'em all.

The problem is that the primitive Church has told so many lies that they are considered the truth.

We are doing you a favour by bringing out the lies in open and in public domain.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161845 Feb 4, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
BUT MUHAMMAD WAS A CHILD MOLESTER, A RAPIST, A MURDERER, A THIEF, AND A TYRANT. PERIOD.
NOT A PROPHET.
MO WAS EVIL.
WAKE UP.
No!

Muhammad was a great man. Trust me. Even Jesus was not fit to untie his shoe laces.
John

Brisbane, Australia

#161846 Feb 4, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
I quoted from your own New Testament and you call it bullshit?
So, who is right? Matthew or Acts? One must be wrong! Both cannot be right, right? Your choice.
What are you drivelling about?
John

Brisbane, Australia

#161847 Feb 4, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
All gospels are full of forgeries and everybody knows that, including you. You can say that they are late 4th Century forgeries. The one by Barnabas sounds better than 'em all.
The problem is that the primitive Church has told so many lies that they are considered the truth.
We are doing you a favour by bringing out the lies in open and in public domain.
Only a muztards sick mind would think the rot in the forged Gospel Of Barnabas "sounds better".
It sounds like vacuous bullshit to me, just like the koran does.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#161848 Feb 4, 2013
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>It's a stupid challenge, posed by an idiot.
http://quran.com/112
Say, "He is Allah ,[who is] One,
Allah, the Eternal Refuge.
He neither begets nor is born,
Nor is there to Him any equivalent."
__________
Say, God is One,
An Eternal Refuge,
Genderless,
Unequaled.
Worked in Censor Board earlier?

Turd, it HAS to be in Arabic!!

Learn a Few Arabic Words and then recompose!!
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#161849 Feb 4, 2013
Comparison between Quran Chapter 112 and First Two of the ten commandments mentioned in the Book of Exodus and Deuteronomy:

Some people have hinted that Our Prophet had before him, these 10 commandments and he used them as “Guideline” to formulate Chapter 112 of Quran.

The answer to this charge is:

a. Where is the proof that our prophet used these Biblical Verses for Chapter 112?

b. Our prophet did not know how to read and write, from whom he heard and remembered these verses?

c. And if he could edit them and rewrite them in so concise and beautiful way, why can’t no one else is able to do it before or after him?

d. If we can assume such type of “Loose charges” then no proof of any kind is needed to prove anything. Any one can come up with any charge and say it is self proven.

A. Are there really any comparison between Quran Surah 112 and these Ten Commandments?

01. Eventhough the topic of both is same; there is no comparison between Quranic Surah and Ten commandments.

02. In Quranic Surah 112, in each verse there is a Unique Quality of Allah, which can be used to distinguish between True God and false gods.

Remember AHAD, SAMAD, LAM YALID and KUFU. There is no such test given in the Ten Commandments.

03. Ten Commandments only give the instructions, but Quran makes a claim and gives a test to check and verify.

B. What these commandments say:

“I am YHWH, your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, the house of slavery. Do not have other gods before me. Do not have idols, do not make any figure of things in the heavens, or here below the earth, or in the water under the earth.

“Do not kneel before them or worship them, because I YHWH am your God a jealous God who punishes children under the third and fourth generation for the wickedness of their parents who hate me” But I am merciful the Thousandth generation to those who love me and obey my commandments (Deut 5: 6-10)

And

“Listen Isreal, YHWH our God is One YHWH and you shall love YHWH your God with all your heart and all your soul and all your strength”(Deut. 6:4-5)

04. Count the number of words in these Biblical verses and then see how Quran Surah 112 condenses all these plus many more in just 17 words!!

05. Quran Surah starts with the word “Say” which is much powerful than the submissive “Listen” as we see in Bible.

06. Then the word “Israel” makes it appear as if the message is only for Jews. YHWH then becomes a “family god” of Jews, having special relationship with them.

While Quranic narration is free from any racial or national bias. Allah is for every one.

07. Then in Bible YHWH is mentioned as Jealous God that punishes children upto third and fourth generations for the sins and inequities of their father, which is against the principles of Natural Justice.

Quran is free from all these mistakes.

08. So in reality, there is no comparison between Quranic Surah 112 and the first two of famous 10 Commandments of Bible.

It is like comparing Chalk and Cheese. Human writemanship and work of Creator of Universe are clearly visible, between these passages from two religious scriptures.

Allah Knows Best
John

Brisbane, Australia

#161850 Feb 4, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
No!
Muhammad was a great man. Trust me. Even Jesus was not fit to untie his shoe laces.
Yes!
Mad mo by his own admission in the koran raped women, raped children, shagged corpses, murdered men women and children, looted cities and preached violence.
Mo was a sick creep and YOU KNOW IT.
Mo is in hell, where you shortly will be.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161851 Feb 4, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
What are you drivelling about?
I am talking about the following bullshits:

"Acts 2:

36 “So be sure of this, all you people of Israel. You nailed Jesus to the cross. But God has made him both Lord and Christ.”

37 When the people heard this, their hearts were filled with shame. They said to Peter and the other apostles,“Brothers, what should we do?”

38 Peter replied,“All of you must turn away from your sins and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then your sins will be forgiven. You will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children. It is also for all who are far away. It is for all whom the Lord our God will choose.”

40 Peter said many other things to warn them. He begged them,“Save yourselves from these evil people.” 41 Those who accepted his message were baptized. About 3,000 people joined the believers that day."

This bullshit from Matthews 28:

The Great Commission

16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said,“All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.(Q) 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

Which bullshit is correct in your view?
John

Brisbane, Australia

#161853 Feb 4, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
I am talking about the following bullshits:
"Acts 2:
36 “So be sure of this, all you people of Israel. You nailed Jesus to the cross. But God has made him both Lord and Christ.”
37 When the people heard this, their hearts were filled with shame. They said to Peter and the other apostles,“Brothers, what should we do?”
38 Peter replied,“All of you must turn away from your sins and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then your sins will be forgiven. You will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children. It is also for all who are far away. It is for all whom the Lord our God will choose.”
40 Peter said many other things to warn them. He begged them,“Save yourselves from these evil people.” 41 Those who accepted his message were baptized. About 3,000 people joined the believers that day."
This bullshit from Matthews 28:
The Great Commission
16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said,“All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.(Q) 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
Which bullshit is correct in your view?
Err they are pretty much the same you moron.
However, if you quibbling dishonest mind has trouble with synonyms then Matthew is more important than Acts.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161855 Feb 4, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
Err they are pretty much the same you moron.
However, if you quibbling dishonest mind has trouble with synonyms then Matthew is more important than Acts.
How can you say that they are pretty much, you bloody fool!

Listen, you are the dishonest person here, dickhead!

Read again:

I am talking about the following bullshits:

The bullshit in "Acts 2:

36 “So be sure of this, all you people of Israel. You nailed Jesus to the cross. But God has made him both Lord and Christ.”
37 When the people heard this, their hearts were filled with shame. They said to Peter and the other apostles,“Brothers, what should we do?”
38 Peter replied,“All of you must turn away from your sins and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then your sins will be forgiven. You will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children. It is also for all who are far away. It is for all whom the Lord our God will choose.”
40 Peter said many other things to warn them. He begged them,“Save yourselves from these evil people.” 41 Those who accepted his message were baptized. About 3,000 people joined the believers that day."

This bullshit from Matthews 28:

The Great Commission

16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said,“All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.(Q) 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

Which bullshit is correct in your view?

Dickhead, they are not fucking same!

“Alea iacta est!”

Since: Oct 06

Oh it's ON!

#161856 Feb 4, 2013
BMZ...the fool........all he has is attacks at Christianity. He has no defense when it comes to Islam.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161863 Feb 5, 2013
Trisha wrote:
BMZ...the fool........all he has is attacks at Christianity. He has no defense when it comes to Islam.
Here comes the Mother of All Bigot and attacks me straight.

No great contribution but silly and absurd 1-2 liners.

I always defend Islam, Ignorant Fool!

Now, you do your best to defend Christianity.

I am talking about the following bullshits, which the clueless fool John from Australia thinks they are pretty much same:

"Acts 2:

36 “So be sure of this, all you people of Israel. You nailed Jesus to the cross. But God has made him both Lord and Christ.”
37 When the people heard this, their hearts were filled with shame. They said to Peter and the other apostles,“Brothers, what should we do?”

38 Peter replied,“All of you must turn away from your sins and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then your sins will be forgiven. You will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children. It is also for all who are far away. It is for all whom the Lord our God will choose.”

40 Peter said many other things to warn them. He begged them,“Save yourselves from these evil people.” 41 Those who accepted his message were baptized. About 3,000 people joined the believers that day."

This bullshit from Matthews 28: The Great Commission

16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said,“All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.(Q) 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”"

Do you see any difference between Acts 2 and Matthew 28? One fool says something and other fool says something else!

Now tell me, your dumb highness, which bullshit is correct in your view? Defend Christianity with all your might and intellect, if you have any!!!

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161864 Feb 5, 2013
Correction, Trisha

The opening line in my post to you, should read:

Here comes the Mother of All Bigots and attacks me straight.

Thanks, Bigot!
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#161865 Feb 5, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
My question was: What exactly did he fulfill? List up, please. I don't see him fulfilling anything.
Would you be kind enough to list down 150 items that he fulfilled? Thanks
In my humble view, Jesus was a reformer and a teacher. In the beginning, you will notice, he was called Teacher or Rabbi. So, he fulfilled the role of a good teacher only.
And that is also what Qur'aan says in other words.
This thread is about who/what allah is and not who Jesus is. Since islam lacks any substance the only thing muslims apologist can do is to try an discredit Christianity. Even if you could discredit Christianity, islam would still be an empty man made ideology and nothing more. It is a very carnal based philosophy with no redeeming qualities. Prove me wrong.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161866 Feb 5, 2013
Trisha wrote:
BMZ...the fool........all he has is attacks at Christianity. He has no defense when it comes to Islam.
And after you defend Christianity, attack Islam and I will defend. That will be between you and me. No other polemic hardcore Christian goons of Topix in this thread. OK, Bigot?
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#161867 Feb 5, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
We follow only Qur'aan and Muhammad. Period.
I am glad to hear you admit you do not follow God.

muslims live in fear of the muslim community and submit themselves to it. The allah is the personification of the muslim community.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#161868 Feb 5, 2013
bmz wrote:
@ Paul
Please read my post to Dr. Knucklehead (Buford) and tell me why did Peter not baptise in the name of the alleged three?
Why did Peter baptise only in the name of Jesus?
It shows that some lying and evil spirit forced the Church fathers to forge "In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit".
And how can you guys gloat over this fraud and forgery in Matthews 28, when Peter baptized only in Jesus' name???
St Peter was only talking about by whose authority one is baptized and not giving the fomula for baptism. He could say: "By the authority of Jesus Name, I baptize you:-In the Name of Father, Son and Holy Spirit.'"
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#161869 Feb 5, 2013
Paul wrote:
01 The popes are infallible and impeccable. The Holy Spirit guide the Catholic Church through the pope as its visible head, preserving her from error.

02 The St Peter was the first pope of the Catholic Church and it is history. Jesus gave St Peter the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven and whatsoever he bond and loosed on earth was bond and loosed in Heaven. St Peter pasted these Keys to his successor and so on to the present day pope.

03 God’s Catholic Church whom St Paul was endorsed by accept what St Paul preached/taught to this day..

04 We are only under the Law of Love..

The Jewish followers of Jesus can be baptized and come to the Catholic Church.
Ans.

01. I think the "Holy Spirit" is the most pitiable thing in the whole Christianity. Any one and every one can "order" it to appear any time they wish.!!

If every Pope is infallible, then why so many Popes were declared Anti Pope after they died? And why the Pope John Paul II apologized for actions of past Popes regarding Jews and Crusades?

02. St. Peter was NEVER declared or called a Pope. He never handed over any Keys of Church to St. Paul. It is all in your imaginations.

03. So you mean that all these thousands of daughter churches and part of the same "Mother Church". Vow this is news to me.

Solving your problems thru discussion is very good, but creating new religion and dogmas is not correct.

04. I know excess of every thing is wrong and so is the misuse of the word Love. If Love was to solve all problems, there never would have been the need of any army or police. Is there any nation that is free from Police and Army?

If Jews can follow their dietary laws then why Christians should also not follow them? Jesus did not abolish any of those laws.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#161870 Feb 5, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
I am glad to hear you admit you do not follow God.
Where did you hear that? Which God are you talking about? Your God or the God of the Jews and Muslims?

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