Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Brussels Journal

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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and you wonder why I label your reasoning sloppy, Muq?

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http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_percent_of_the...
What percent of the world is gay?

The more rigorous studies have shown different results within a range of 0.6 to 5.4 percent. These studies include Bell-Weinberg, 1970 (~2 percent); Billy-Battelle, 1993 (1.1 percent); Cameron-Ross, 1975-78 (~3 percent); Catania-NABS, 1992 (2 percent); FRI, 1983 (5.4 percent); MacDonald, 1988 (2 percent); NCHS, 1988-91 (3.5 percent); Schmidt, 1987 (0.6 percent); and Trocki, 1988-89 (3 percent).

There are also other studies and reports that have influenced the popularly reported percentage. The popular estimate that 10 percent of the male population and 5 to 6 percent of the female population are exclusively or predominately gay/lesbian is based on the Kinsey Institute data published in 1948. Since then Kinsley has been widely debunked, as more than 55% of the men surveyed were either prisoners, sex offenders, or male prostitutes.

Laumann and Associates (1994), using the national probability Health and Social Life Survey combined with data collected in the General Social Survey, found that 2.8 percent of men and 1.4 percent of women identified as gay or lesbian, while 7.7 percent of men and 7.5 percent of women reported homosexual desire. Michaels (1996) analyzed the limited available data and estimated that in the United States 9.8 percent of men and 5 percent of women report same-gender sexual behavior since puberty; 7.7 percent of men and 7.5 percent of women report same-gender desire; and 2.8 percent of men and 1.4 percent of women report homosexual or bisexual identity. An analysis of U.S. census data has provided the most solid evidence of the presence and certain social characteristics of lesbians and gays among the general population. In the 1990 census, gay and lesbian respondents could identify themselves as unmarried partners. Estimates from the 1990 census indicate that 1.63 percent of people aged 15 and older nationwide reported themselves as unmarried partners of the householder.

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In other words, the Kinsey data I cited is a bit out dated - I'll concede on that notion - but the percentage of women either lesbian or having lesbian proclivities is still higher than you might think, and assuming you have a large family, the chances are pretty darn good one of them may be in that category.
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SC wrote:
01. I don't understand why you are writing such a long post to me and not to bmz. All I'm saying is that Arabic language is not better or worst than other ones.

02. While bmz is saying that Greek language is poor and unfit for the scripture, this is why god has not revealed anything in that language, but as you said, and I said few days ago, Allah sent messengers to all nations. But he keeps ignoring, lying and denying anything goes against his wishes.

03. Since it's clear there is disagreement between you and him and time for you to educate him to what Quran said.
Ans.

01. Why should I have a discussion with BMZ? You asked me a question and I gave you answer. If you have any comment on that, you should reply back to me, why involve a third person.

02. There is no superiority of any language per see over another, all languages originate with God and He understands every language on earth.

03. The languages might have special qualities and some might be more powerful to express certain topics. There is no problem in that. And I have also said that not only Greek, but MOST of European languages have deficiency to express deep spiritual matters.

That might be reason that No Great Prophet (to our limited knowledge, there might be some local prophets to serve the needs of small groups) rose from Western Nations.

04. Do not get confused and cross connect me with BMZ. You post replies to my post to me and his posts to him.
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I "wish" they make a movie about 9/11 incident.
And they "simulate" the fall of WTC-1 and WTC-7 by making a scale model of these buildings and demonstrate how it fell as the result of jet strike!!
Is it not strange that they were "so quick" to make a movie on OBL capture and killing....and "so lethargic" to make a movie on 9/11!!
What is holding them back?
Any clue?
MUQ the "Truther,"

No 9/11 movie needs to use scale models of WTC-1 and WTC-7. It simply needs to show actual video recordings that were made at the time.

For the "international readers" who also happen to be "Truthers" like MUQ:

Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy theories and Controlled Demolition Myths
http://www.debunking911.com/
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Americans would "use" 911 for at least next 50-60 years!! Their Media would not let them forget.
How can USA "forget" 911? They might if they find a "new" enemy.
MUQ the "Truther,"

Would your masters in Saudi Arabia "use" the Khobar Tower attack on June 25, 1996 "for at least next 50-60 years?" in their "holy war" against Hezbollah, if that's who REALLY did it? Maybe it was george Bush and the Mossad. Tell us the TRUTH!!!

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khobar_Towers_bo...
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CORRECTION:

Would your masters in Saudi Arabia "use" the Khobar Tower attack on June 25, 1996 "for at least next 50-60 years!!" in their "holy war" against Hezbollah, if that's who REALLY did it? Maybe it was GEORGE Bush and the Mossad. Tell us the TRUTH!!!

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<quoted text>MUQ the "Truther,"
Would your masters in Saudi Arabia "use" the Khobar Tower attack on June 25, 1996 "for at least next 50-60 years?" in their "holy war" against Hezbollah, if that's who REALLY did it? Maybe it was george Bush and the Mossad. Tell us the TRUTH!!!
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khobar_Towers_bo...
On the same wavelength, there is a pattern among truthers and political Islamists to claim that this whole business started with 911.

It didnt.

They neglect to remember the 1993 WTC parking lot bombing.
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What mind? You don't think before you type.
Use of the "Jewish Nose" in anti-Semitic literature is abundant. The Nazis used it extensively.
"The German is depicted as the tall, blond, slender and powerful Aryan ideal With regular features and a high forehead. His shovel indicates that he is a worker. In contrast to the Aryan ideal, the Jew is shown as short, dark-haired, misshapen, bulky, with a sloping forehead and a crooked nose and embodies the Jewish racial characteristics set forth by the Nazis. At the same time, she uses this image to convey the stereotype of the money-hungry Jew, well-clothed and carrying an attach case in his hand and a financial newspaper in his pocket. The figure of the Aryan appears proud and looks down upon the Jew, who gives him a shifty look and makes a somewhat concealed fist with his hand as though challenging him with respect to money." http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mills-mar...
Want more examples? Go here: https://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&o...
HughBe--- I believe that my words which follow are clear.

Eric--this "Jewish Nose" insult has nothing to do with anything either.

HughBe-- It NEVER entered my mind to insult anyone and I believe that if you were not a load of Shi. you would not have seen insult in it.

My entire argument is that Jews are a RACE of people who have a common BIOLOGICAL origin i.e. a man called Israel and this IDENTITY was and is INDEPENDENT of RELIGION/Judaism. All that is needed is that they are the PHYSICAL descendants of Israel and they are Israelites/Jews. This fact will NEVER change regardless of the CORRUPTED teachings of you and your fellow rabbis. It is the BIOLOGY or family that makes them Jews and my use of the nose is to tell a fellow like you that the physical features did not come about because of any religion including Judaism. The physical features are due to BIOLOGY/race/FAMILY.

Finally, the Jewish people existed as a PEOPLE before Judaism and they will exists after Judaism.

Now go and STUDY what follows.

Eric--I don't have a "Jewish Nose".

HughBe--- Some will say that such is the case because you are not a full Jew.

My points are repeated below with significant ADDITIONS for your LEARNING.

1.Judaism/religion does NOT give the Jews their DNA. Jewish DNA testings are NOT done to determine RELIGION.The tests are done to determine RACE.

2.RACE/LINEAGE gives Jews their DNA. Recall, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob/Israel etc. that is LINEAGE/race.

3.Jews are a RACE of people.

4.Judaism is a RELIGION and its members are Judahites.

5.Judaism/religion does NOT give the Jews a JEWISH NOSE.

6.RACE gives Jews, JEWISH NOSES

7. Jews were in existence LONG before Moses got the law.

8. God made a COVENANT with a people KNOWN as Israel/Jews.

9. The LAW or COVENANT did NOT make them Jews they were ALREADY Jews

10. Jews existed over a 1000 years before Judaism.

11. When Jews leave Judaism their DNA do NOT change.

12. When Jews leave Judaism they REMAIN the SEED of Abraham, Isaac and Israel and there is NOTHING that you and other rabbis can do about that REALITY.

13. When a CONVERT leaves Judaism, is s/he still a spiritual Jew? NO, NO, NO!

14. When a Jew,seed of Israel, leaves Judaism is s/he still a Jew. YES. The DNA does not change. Only DECEIVERS don't get this.
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What mind? You don't think before you type.
Use of the "Jewish Nose" in anti-Semitic literature is abundant. The Nazis used it extensively.
"The German is depicted as the tall, blond, slender and powerful Aryan ideal With regular features and a high forehead. His shovel indicates that he is a worker. In contrast to the Aryan ideal, the Jew is shown as short, dark-haired, misshapen, bulky, with a sloping forehead and a crooked nose and embodies the Jewish racial characteristics set forth by the Nazis. At the same time, she uses this image to convey the stereotype of the money-hungry Jew, well-clothed and carrying an attach case in his hand and a financial newspaper in his pocket. The figure of the Aryan appears proud and looks down upon the Jew, who gives him a shifty look and makes a somewhat concealed fist with his hand as though challenging him with respect to money." http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mills-mar...
Want more examples? Go here: https://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&o...
HughBe--- I believe that my words below and their context are clear.

Eric--this "Jewish Nose" insult has nothing to do with anything either.

HughBe-- It NEVER entered my mind to insult anyone and I believe that if you were not a load of Shi. you would not have seen insult in it.

My entire argument is that Jews are a RACE of people who have a common BIOLOGICAL origin i.e. a man called Israel and this IDENTITY was and is INDEPENDENT of RELIGION/Judaism. All that is needed is that they are the PHYSICAL descendants of Israel and they are Israelites/Jews. This fact will NEVER change regardless of the CORRUPTED teachings of you and your fellow rabbis. It is the BIOLOGY or family that makes them Jews and my use of the nose is to tell a fellow like you that the physical features did not come about because of any religion including Judaism. The physical features are due to BIOLOGY/race/FAMILY.

Finally, the Jewish people existed as a PEOPLE before Judaism and they will exists after Judaism.

Now go and STUDY what follows.

Eric--I don't have a "Jewish Nose".

HughBe--- Some will say that such is the case because you are not a full Jew.

My points are repeated below with significant ADDITIONS for your LEARNING.

1.Judaism/religion does NOT give the Jews their DNA. Jewish DNA testings are NOT done to determine RELIGION.The tests are done to determine RACE.

2.RACE/LINEAGE gives Jews their DNA. Recall, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob/Israel etc. that is LINEAGE/race.

3.Jews are a RACE of people.

4.Judaism is a RELIGION and its members are Judahites.

5.Judaism/religion does NOT give the Jews a JEWISH NOSE.

6.RACE gives Jews, JEWISH NOSES

7. Jews were in existence LONG before Moses got the law.

8. God made a COVENANT with a people KNOWN as Israel/Jews.

9. The LAW or COVENANT did NOT make them Jews they were ALREADY Jews

10. Jews existed over a 1000 years before Judaism.

11. When Jews leave Judaism their DNA do NOT change.

12. When Jews leave Judaism they REMAIN the SEED of Abraham, Isaac and Israel and there is NOTHING that you and other rabbis can do about that REALITY.

13. When a CONVERT leaves Judaism, is s/he still a spiritual Jew? NO, NO, NO!

14. When a Jew,seed of Israel, leaves Judaism is s/he still a Jew. YES. The DNA does not change. Only DECEIVERS don't get this.
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The funny thing is that I get them too. 4 of them
1 from Alex
1 from Muq
1 from the Jamaican
not sure who the the other one is.
Buford --TURD,You missed one.

Frijoles---The funny thing is that I get them too. 4 of them
1 from Alex
1 from Muq
1 from the Jamaican

HughBe--- How many times must I tell you that I don't judge the posts of others i.e. with the exception of the occasionally FUNNY?

Why do you allow your Satan to dominate you and to sow more and more LIES and other evil in you?

Why is your appetite for EVIL so great? LYING is EVIL.
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ripe comment since I dont recollect a reason based argument from yourself regarding your religious path ever. Your arguments are always appear to suffer from logical fallacies and/or are based on faith.
Furthermore, we have discussed the sin of sodom many many times before, and frankly considering I see no evidence that the sin is anything more than extreme inhospitality (I see nothing in the text that labels it sexual) I see nothing wrong with sodomites.
And finally, before you knock lesbians, you need to have a clear discussion with your wife and daughters and nieces and aunts. Statistically speaking, chances are, one of them is.(Dont shoot the messenger)
Frijoles--Furthermore, we have discussed the sin of sodom many many times before, and frankly considering I see no evidence that the sin is anything more than extreme inhospitality (I see nothing in the text that labels it sexual) I see nothing wrong with sodomites.

HughBe--- What a LIAR, you are. As a Bat..Boy you would see nothing wrong with it. However, in the past I've proven that the sin was homosexuality and so you are without excuse and are full of sin.
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Frijoles--Furthermore, we have discussed the sin of sodom many many times before, and frankly considering I see no evidence that the sin is anything more than extreme inhospitality (I see nothing in the text that labels it sexual) I see nothing wrong with sodomites.
HughBe--- What a LIAR, you are. As a Bat..Boy you would see nothing wrong with it. However, in the past I've proven that the sin was homosexuality and so you are without excuse and are full of sin.
You have proven squat.

Read the Hebrew. Show me the hebrew term for sodomy (i.e. the act). Show how it is the identical term for sodomites (i.e. residents of said geographical entity).

And finally, show me where it says sodomy (the act) is a sin, within the SAME portion of the narrative. Note this is not a necessary precondition for the logic of the above paragraph.

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Buford --TURD,You missed one.
Frijoles---The funny thing is that I get them too. 4 of them
1 from Alex
1 from Muq
1 from the Jamaican
HughBe--- How many times must I tell you that I don't judge the posts of others i.e. with the exception of the occasionally FUNNY?
Why do you allow your Satan to dominate you and to sow more and more LIES and other evil in you?
Why is your appetite for EVIL so great? LYING is EVIL.
Stop protesting. It is unlady like.

besides, is it REALLY a big deal to be falsely assumed, inlight of circumstantial evidence? Is this really an EVIL?

Lighten up, ball less.

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you really need to see a shrink to deal with your predilections.

You and MUQ are beshert on this topic. Both of you see pink elephants where pink elephants do not necessarily exist.
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I can see a "sick" mind already!!
husband-wife sodomy has always been allowed
as for the mitzvah "Thou shalt not lie with man", it applies to male-male sodomy
a) with sacred male prostitutes (kedeshim) only
b) between Jewish men only - not between a Jew and a gentile
c) in Eretz Yisrael only - not in exile

so yes you are dealing with "sick" minds that refuse to follow mitzvot or even halacha, but rather follow their yetzer ha-Ra
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I see nothing wrong with sodomites
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HughBe-- It NEVER entered my mind to insult anyone
Oh, BS. The fact that you continue to repeat the stereotype and insult over and over again--even though you have been given references to the historical basis of the insult to Jews--means that you meant to and continue to insult others. You posted the stereotype post 3 time again in response to my last post. There can be no question of your intentions since you continue to say it.

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husband-wife sodomy has always been allowed
as for the mitzvah "Thou shalt not lie with man", it applies to male-male sodomy
a) with sacred male prostitutes (kedeshim) only
b) between Jewish men only - not between a Jew and a gentile
c) in Eretz Yisrael only - not in exile
so yes you are dealing with "sick" minds that refuse to follow mitzvot or even halacha, but rather follow their yetzer ha-Ra
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I dont know ANY Jew that would agree with all of those.

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uhuh wrote:
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husband-wife sodomy has always been allowed
as for the mitzvah "Thou shalt not lie with man", it applies to male-male sodomy
a) with sacred male prostitutes (kedeshim) only
b) between Jewish men only - not between a Jew and a gentile
c) in Eretz Yisrael only - not in exile
so yes you are dealing with "sick" minds that refuse to follow mitzvot or even halacha, but rather follow their yetzer ha-Ra
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regarding c)(dotn have time to address a and b now)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_and_customs...
Laws and customs of the Land of Israel in Judaism (Hebrew: &#1502;&#1510;&#14 93;&#1493;&#1514; &#1492;&#1514;&#15 00;&#1493;&#1497;& #1493;&#1514; &#1489;&#1488;&#15 12;&#1509;; translit. Mitzvot Ha'teluyot Be'aretz) are special Jewish laws that apply only to the Land of Israel. According to a standard view, 26 of the 613 mitzvot apply only in the Land of Israel.[1] Overall, the laws and customs may be classified as follows:....

Also, in front of me is a copy of Maimonides Sefer Hamitzvot -- negative commandments p316 #351 - it says NOTHING about eretz yisrael.

And finally,
See "Homosexuality and Halakhah
Traditional sources on homosexuality..."

http://www.myjewishlearning.com/life/Sex_and_...

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nothing in ANY of these support your interpretations

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while we are on the topic of sodomy

To Hughbe:

The Biblical Sources

The basis of the prohibition against homosexual acts derives from two biblical verses in Leviticus:“Do not lie with a male as one lies with a woman; it is an abhorrence”(Leviticus 18:22) and “If a man lies with a male as one lies with a woman, the two of them have done an abhorrent thing; they shall be put to death—their bloodguilt is upon them”(Leviticus 20:13). The Torah considers a homosexual act between two men to be an abhorrent thing (to’evah), punishable by death—a strong prohibition.

The Torah gives no reason for this commandment. Some commentators have looked for a rationale in the story of Sodom, in which the men in the town attempt to rape the visitors to Lot’s house.(See Genesis 19; the word “sodomy” comes from this incident.) However, the occurrence in the story was a case of homosex­ual rape, hardly a legitimate precedent for the kind of consensual homosexual acts we are considering. Others see the root of the prohibition in the verse “No Israelite woman shall be a cult prostitute, nor shall any Israelite man be a cult prostitute”(Deuteronomy 23:18). Cultic prostitution, both hetero&#8209; and homosexual, was a common feature of idolatrous worship in the ancient Near East, but, like the story of Sodom, it is no longer a relevant precedent for modern homosexuality.

http://www.myjewishlearning.com/life/Sex_and_...

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