Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 230673 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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#158024 Jan 9, 2013
bmz wrote:
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It is the other way round. I have noticed and I am sure the silent majority of the international readers also must have noticed that when you are unable to answer and offer an explanation, you always write:
"Thus saith the LORD!"
And I must say that it is a defeatist attitude.
I will give you another example of how silly, absurd and unfit is the Greek language for scriptures.
Please read Mark 15:43-45 on the Biblos Interlinear Bible.
Joseph went to take Jesus and asked for his Soma. After getting a surprising shock that he had died SO FAST, Pilate gave him permission to take his Ptoma.
One can see how crude that language is. Can I have Soma? Yes, you can have Ptoma.
Of course, the Church's Greek is weird too. To her Soma and Ptoma are the same.
It would have sounded not so crude and absurd, if he had asked for Soma and Pilate had let him carry away his Soma.
It would also not have sounded so crude and absurd, if he had asked for Ptoma and Pilate had let him carry his Ptoma.
What say ye now, Buford?
Will it be the usual "Thus saith the LORD!"?
There is nothing wrong or absurd in Greek, and those verses prove this.

In Greek soma means living body, while ptoma means corpse. Let me take Mark's verses and substituite the Greek words with their English meanings.

Mark 15:43-45
"Joseph went to take Jesus and asked for his body. After getting a surprising shock that he had died SO FAST, Pilate gave him permission to take his corpse.

As evident by those verses Joseph went to ask for the Nazarene's body and not corpse, because he thought the man was still alive, but he was shocked to know Jesus had died fast. Thus in the last verse is used the word corpse, that means dead body.

There is not problem with Greek language at all.

You proved that your mind is POOR and UNFIT to understand any language.
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#158025 Jan 9, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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There is nothing wrong or absurd in Greek, and those verses prove this.
In Greek soma means living body, while ptoma means corpse. Let me take Mark's verses and substituite the Greek words with their English meanings.
Mark 15:43-45
"Joseph went to take Jesus and asked for his body. After getting a surprising shock that he had died SO FAST, Pilate gave him permission to take his corpse.
As evident by those verses Joseph went to ask for the Nazarene's body and not corpse, because he thought the man was still alive, but he was shocked to know Jesus had died fast. Thus in the last verse is used the word corpse, that means dead body.
There is not problem with Greek language at all.
You proved that your mind is POOR and UNFIT to understand any language.
You've pointed out the obvious to the LORD of Singapore, but it won't make any difference. He'll continue believeing that Greek is "unfit" as a scriptural language, while also believing that Mohammad's Arabic was crystal clear in its meanings, even though without diacritical marks the Arabic verses that were recorded by his scribes could have had all sorts of different meanings, meanings that were LATER assigned by "rightly guided" interpreters, a.k.a., prophets after Mohammad.
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#158026 Jan 9, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
It is the other way round. I have noticed and I am sure the silent majority of the international readers also must have noticed that when you are unable to answer and offer an explanation, you always write:
"Thus saith the LORD!"
And I must say that it is a defeatist attitude.
I will give you another example of how silly, absurd and unfit is the Greek language for scriptures.
Please read Mark 15:43-45 on the Biblos Interlinear Bible.
Joseph went to take Jesus and asked for his Soma. After getting a surprising shock that he had died SO FAST, Pilate gave him permission to take his Ptoma.
One can see how crude that language is. Can I have Soma? Yes, you can have Ptoma.
Of course, the Church's Greek is weird too. To her Soma and Ptoma are the same.
It would have sounded not so crude and absurd, if he had asked for Soma and Pilate had let him carry away his Soma.
It would also not have sounded so crude and absurd, if he had asked for Ptoma and Pilate had let him carry his Ptoma.
What say ye now, Buford?
Will it be the usual "Thus saith the LORD!"?
I say that you are an "ignorant fool."
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#158027 Jan 9, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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You are being dumb again. Second time for this post.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarism
Academia
Plagiarism is defined in multiple ways in higher education institutions and universities. To name a few: Stanford sees plagiarism as “use, without giving reasonable and appropriate credit to or acknowledging the author or source, of another person's original work, whether such work is made up of code, formulas, ideas, language, research, strategies, writing or other form”; [36] Yale views plagiarism as “the use of another’s work, words, or ideas without attribution” which included “using a source’s language without quoting, using information from a source without attribution, and paraphrasing a source in a form that stays too close to the original”; [37] Princeton perceives plagiarism as the deliberate use of “someone else’s language, ideas, or other original (not common-knowledge) material without acknowledging its source”; [38] Oxford characterizes plagiarism as the use of “a writer's ideas or phraseology without giving due credit”; [39] and Brown explains plagiarism to be “appropriating another person's ideas or words (spoken or written) without attributing those word or ideas to their true source”.[40] As well-known institutions, they reflect a common academic definition of plagiarism. Lack of citation, giving credit, or attribution is considered to be plagiarism.
In academics, committing plagiarism comes down to failing to cite sources.
Once again you have FALSELY claimed that what I wrote amounted to plagiarism notwithstanding the words were in QUOTATION marks. I accept that you have not yet learnt the meaning of those marks.

Don't hide, explain the implications of my words that follow.
I knew from common sense that persons who were very much in trade etc. would also be a part of the African Slave trade. The PROOF took perhaps minutes to FIND.

Answer this question. Does the word FIND tell an IDIOT like you that I wrote it?

Explain or share your understanding of, "The PROOF took perhaps minutes to FIND."

Now, YOU have either not understood the words that you have quoted or have maliciously taken them out of context.

My boy, the use of quotation marks should tell a simpleton like you that the words were not mine. The CONTEXT says the words were not mine. The use of the word FIND tells even the very simple like yourself that I did NOT find the quote in my HEAD, hand or your favourite place my REAR. I found them somewhere EXTERNAL to myself.

The truth is even morons knew that I did not author the quotes so are you sub-moron?

What I did not do was to cite the source BUT I NEVER represented the words as my own and even you know this.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#158028 Jan 9, 2013
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not a bastard, you descendant of slaves.
HughBe wrote:Alex--This lying Bstd spends all day and all night insutling Islam and the Prophet using the most despicable and the most hateful unauthentic islamophobic links without batting an eyelid!!....

Buford---I'm not a bastard, you descendant of slaves.

HughBe--- There is no doubt in your mind that you are clever because you were able to kill two birds with one stone. However, being bright in your neck of the woods equates to being a DUNCE here.

Let me ask you a few questions.

1. Are descendants of slaves less than you?
2. Are descendants of slaves humans?
3. Were the forefathers of slaves always slaves?
4. Were WHITES ever enslaved in the US or in Europe?
5. Tell me about white slavery in the 20th century in America? Did it exists?

Now if WHITES were enslaved at some time in history are YOU a descendant of SLAVES?
crzzzd

Rochester, PA

#158029 Jan 9, 2013
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Allah is a Pimp sucker

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#158030 Jan 9, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Once again you have FALSELY claimed that what I wrote amounted to plagiarism notwithstanding the words were in QUOTATION marks. I accept that you have not yet learnt the meaning of those marks.
Don't hide, explain the implications of my words that follow.
I knew from common sense that persons who were very much in trade etc. would also be a part of the African Slave trade. The PROOF took perhaps minutes to FIND.
Answer this question. Does the word FIND tell an IDIOT like you that I wrote it?
Explain or share your understanding of, "The PROOF took perhaps minutes to FIND."
Now, YOU have either not understood the words that you have quoted or have maliciously taken them out of context.
My boy, the use of quotation marks should tell a simpleton like you that the words were not mine. The CONTEXT says the words were not mine. The use of the word FIND tells even the very simple like yourself that I did NOT find the quote in my HEAD, hand or your favourite place my REAR. I found them somewhere EXTERNAL to myself.
The truth is even morons knew that I did not author the quotes so are you sub-moron?
What I did not do was to cite the source BUT I NEVER represented the words as my own and even you know this.
"What I did not do was to cite the source"

EXACTLY - thats why its plagiarism (as according to the definition you requested I provide)

I get the feeling your inability or unwillingness to read the definition is inextricably linked to your previous behavior

not a big deal - I only mentioned it because I was interested in teh source. I never assumed you wrote it - it was too logical and rational for anything you have posted here

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#158031 Jan 9, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Once again you have FALSELY claimed that what I wrote amounted to plagiarism
Nope - it was a true claim pursuant to the post above.

Why do you fight these things? Why even bother? You think we might think less of you becuase you cut and paste without citing a source? EARTH TO HUGHBE!!- we ALREADY thought less of you regardless - that cut and paste doesnt change a thing.

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#158032 Jan 9, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Go ahead and quote the book properly, LIAR.
Educate everybody and show how your quote will change the FACTS given in my quote.
You are truly an EVIL creature.
Why, because I posted a link to an accepted and credible scholarly work 16 years later, that may of contradicted the initially UNCITED cut and paste you posted from a work published 16 years earlier?

You OBVIOUSLY have a problem with people criticizing your "authority" on matters.
uhuh

Sevilla, Spain

#158033 Jan 9, 2013
in Hebrew: "Many goyim shall come to Jerusalem; ten of them shall grab hold of the skirt of one yehudi saying 'We will go with you for we have heard that Elohim is with you'" (Zech 8:23) yehudim are worth groveling at

in Aramaic: "Haggai and Zechariah prophesied unto yehudain in Yehud and Jerusalem in the name of Elah yisrael" (Ezra 5:1)

why should some take offense if yehudim/yehudain is translated as judahites in english?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#158034 Jan 9, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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"What I did not do was to cite the source"
EXACTLY - thats why its plagiarism (as according to the definition you requested I provide)
I get the feeling your inability or unwillingness to read the definition is inextricably linked to your previous behavior
not a big deal - I only mentioned it because I was interested in teh source. I never assumed you wrote it - it was too logical and rational for anything you have posted here
Once again, the words were in QUOTATION marks. What is your understanding of quotation marks?

I am still waiting. Explain the implications of my words that follow.I knew from common sense that persons who were very much in trade etc. would also be a part of the African Slave trade. The PROOF took perhaps minutes to FIND.

I am still waiting for an answer-- Does the word FIND tell an IDIOT like you that I wrote it?

I am still waiting for an explanation-- The PROOF took perhaps minutes to FIND.

Now, YOU have either not understood the words that you have quoted or have maliciously taken them out of context.

Finally, did I represent the words as my own?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#158035 Jan 9, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Why, because I posted a link to an accepted and credible scholarly work 16 years later, that may of contradicted the initially UNCITED cut and paste you posted from a work published 16 years earlier?
You OBVIOUSLY have a problem with people criticizing your "authority" on matters.
HughBe--- Are YOU telling me that Rabbi Raphael, a TOP historian of Jewish history, and a man who "for the last generation .. has been the EDITOR of the quarterly journal, American Jewish HISTORY" FABRICATED the information that he wrote?

Do you suppose that a man who has been the EDITOR of America Jewish HISTORY for a LONG time would know something about the slave trade?

For your source to contradict Rabbi Raphael, a TOP historian of Jewish history, it means one of them is LYING and FABRICATING history.

Did Rabbi Raphael, a TOP historian of Jewish history, fabricate the things that he wrote?

Is it a case where your source sought to "CORRECT" history.

Note the quotation marks. Do you understand its meaning in this context? It certainly went over your head in a different context if you are to believed. The truth is you are just plain DECEPTIVE and LIE. You understood the first use of the marks.

"Jews also took an active part in the Dutch colonial slave trade; indeed, the bylaws of the Recife and Mauricia congregations (1648) included an imposta (Jewish tax) of five soldos for each Negro slave a Brazilian Jew purchased from the West Indies Company. Slave AUCTIONS were POSTPONED if they fell on a Jewish holiday. In Curacao in the seventeenth century, as well as in the British colonies of Barbados and Jamaica in the eighteenth century, Jewish merchants played a MAJOR role in the slave trade. In FACT, in ALL the American colonies, whether French (Martinique), British, or Dutch, Jewish merchants frequently DOMINATED.

"This was no less true on the North American mainland, where during the eighteenth century Jews participated in the 'triangular trade' that brought slaves from Africa to the West Indies and there exchanged them for molasses, which in turn was taken to New England and converted into rum for sale in Africa. Isaac Da Costa of Charleston in the 1750's, David Franks of Philadelphia in the 1760's, and Aaron Lopez of Newport in the late 1760's and early 1770's dominated Jewish slave trading on the American continent."

"Slave trading was a MAJOR feature of Jewish economic life in Surinam which as a major stopping-off point in the triangular trade. Both North American and Caribbean Jews played a key role in this commerce: records of a slave sale in 1707 reveal that the ten LARGEST Jewish purchasers (10,400 guilders) spent more than 25 PERCENT of the total funds (38,605 guilders) exchanged."

Source---"Rabbi Raphael is both a rabbi and a TOP historian of Jewish history. For the last generation he has been the EDITOR of the quarterly journal, American Jewish History.

He is the Nathan and Sophia Gumenick Professor of Judaic Studies, Professor of Religion, and Chair, Department of Religion, The College of William and Mary, and a Visiting Fellow of Wolfson College, Oxford University.

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#158036 Jan 9, 2013
uhuh wrote:
in Hebrew: "Many goyim shall come to Jerusalem; ten of them shall grab hold of the skirt of one yehudi saying 'We will go with you for we have heard that Elohim is with you'" (Zech 8:23) yehudim are worth groveling at
in Aramaic: "Haggai and Zechariah prophesied unto yehudain in Yehud and Jerusalem in the name of Elah yisrael" (Ezra 5:1)
why should some take offense if yehudim/yehudain is translated as judahites in english?
Because it is meant to be offensive.

Hughbe believes in the Christian fundamentalist doctrine of replacement theology. I.E. Jews are unworthy of their "spiritual inheritence", leaving Christians like him free to step in.

Labeling us jews as Judaites or whatever is part of that.

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#158037 Jan 9, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe--- Are YOU telling me that Rabbi Raphael, a TOP historian of Jewish history, and a man who "for the last generation .. has been the EDITOR of the quarterly journal, American Jewish HISTORY" FABRICATED the information that he wrote?
.
Um...yes

You have no understanding how the academic enterprise works.

Some one publishes something, Some one else examines, it, improves on it, criticizes it, etc etc...thats how progress is attained

I would be MUCH more impressed if YOU read BOTH books and came back with an informed critique or opinion on the issue, rather than defending an older work and ignoring future works.

You have a weak approach

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#158038 Jan 9, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Once again, the words were in QUOTATION marks. What is your understanding of quotation marks?
?
It doesnt matter. I knew you didnt write it. But others might not be so familair with your style. Thats why the definition AS I PROVIDED IT UPON YOUR PERSONAL REQUEST says that you need to cite the actual SOURCE.

Didnt you ever write reports in school?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#158039 Jan 9, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Why, because I posted a link to an accepted and credible scholarly work 16 years later, that may of contradicted the initially UNCITED cut and paste you posted from a work published 16 years earlier?
You OBVIOUSLY have a problem with people criticizing your "authority" on matters.
Judahite, tell me, did Rabbi Raphael, a TOP historian of Jewish HISTORY, and a man who "for the last generation .. has been the EDITOR of the quarterly journal, American Jewish HISTORY" FABRICATE the information or statistics in my quote?

Rabbi Raphael gave statistics, did he make them up?

Understand, these exchanges are saying OUR rabbis cannot be TRUSTED because they "CORRECT" or PERVERT truth and HISTORY.

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#158040 Jan 9, 2013
CORRECTION

I would be MUCH more impressed if YOU read BOTH books and came back with an informed critique or opinion on the issue, rather than BLINDLY defending an older work (i.e. without reading it and depending upon reputation alone) and ignoring future works.

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#158041 Jan 9, 2013
You may also be in violation of Copyright laws....
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#158042 Jan 9, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Um...yes
You have no understanding how the academic enterprise works.
Some one publishes something, Some one else examines, it, improves on it, criticizes it, etc etc...thats how progress is attained
I would be MUCH more impressed if YOU read BOTH books and came back with an informed critique or opinion on the issue, rather than defending an older work and ignoring future works.
You have a weak approach
HughBe--- Are YOU telling me that Rabbi Raphael, a TOP historian of Jewish history, and a man who "for the last generation .. has been the EDITOR of the quarterly journal, American Jewish HISTORY" FABRICATED the information that he wrote?
.

Frijoles---Um...yes

HughBe--- So, Rabbi Raphael FABRICATED the information that he wrote but your source did not.

You are a lowlife and once again out of your own mouth you have declared your rabbis to be FRAUDS and very CORRUPT.

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#158043 Jan 9, 2013
If so, I can recommend a fine lawyer from the Illinois bar.

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