Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 230214 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#155665 Dec 7, 2012
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you want to turn around the point without face it.

If you think that if you were wrong the Jews would have pointed out this yet, then according to your logic I am not wrong as well, since none of them told am wrong. But aside this, I do remember in the past that they admitted YHVH is its name and in an occasion MAAT correct you giving me right. Now rabbee this is part by correcting you.

Is this what there is written? "You shall not take the name of the Lord, your God, in vain, for the Lord will not hold blameless anyone who takes His name in vain."

The question is the following, which name the god his lord does not want to be said/pronunced in vain?
May the good LORD shower more patience upon me, when dealing with you.

I wrote this:

"It is funny that you question and provide answers, which you fail to understand.
Wrong!

It wasn't said and it wasn't written : "Thou shall not take the name of the Lord."

It was said and it was written: "Thous shall not take the name of thy LORD in vain."

That means, one shall not take the name of the LORD in vain deeds, false oaths, false swearing, etc.

Moses was calling the LORD most of the time. If you read Jewish Scriptures, you will find instructions to remember the LORD and teach/preach/pray, etc., while sitting, standing and lying down.

When praying to the LORD was not forbidden, how could calling the name of the LORD fall in VAIN?
Do people pray to the LORD by spelling out a G, a hyphen and a D?

God is not the son of a man or a man to have a name. You can give beautiful names to God and there is no harm. Moses called God Almighty LORD, which is Adonai in Hebrew.

You are the one, who mentions it, so you should ask. If I were wrong, the members of Jewish faith would have certainly posted a note to correct me.

Where do you see G-d in here? "

Also, I had given you the links to Jewish sources, where God was spelled properly and you do not see any G-d there. Did you read at the two links which I gave you? Obviously not!

And now you write: " The question is the following, which name the god his lord does not want to be said/pronunced in vain?"

Is that what you understand by 'taking the name of the LORD in vain"?

Girls getting fucked, cry in ecstasy "Oh my God!" This is an example of calling the name of God in vain. Do you think God gave another name to be called in vain deeds?

One cannot tell his friend, "By God, I will take that girl to bed and fuck her!" This will be calling the name of God in vain.

A man deceives another by promising him in the name of God that he would help him in distress, swears upon God but does not keep that particular promise. That is an example of calling the name of God in vain.

Do you think God gave Moses another name for such activities? LMAO! You crack me up!

Why can't you understand?

Next time, please address my post para by para in separate short posts, as I do with Mahmood.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#155666 Dec 7, 2012
Buford wrote:
Meanwhile...
Senior al-Qaida leader killed in drone strike in Pakistan, jihadis, US officials say
http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/...
Excerpt:
The news was first announced on an al-Qaida web forum early Friday.“We celebrate to you the news of the martyrdom of the working scholar Shaykh Khalid al-Hussainan (Abu Zaid al-Kuwaiti) while eating his Suhoor (dawn time) meal, and we ask Allah to accept him in paradise," a post said.
__________
Hmm...Allah could always say "No"...
Thanks for the news. How many more Senior Al-Qaidah leaders are left? Why can't the US finish 'em all? That should be fast, so that people can live in peace and harmony, after the trouble-makers have left.

Disaster in Iraq, Disaster in Afghanistan and Disaster in Pakistan.

Please inform all the old hags at Capitol Hill to stop this useless war of terror, which is not wroking at all and has turned into a Disaster for the US.

Thanks
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#155667 Dec 7, 2012
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>In case you missed it, according to Alex 123456789akaWhackyMuslim, "You will burn in hell."
Here's hoping that you have fire insurance.
Fire insurance will not help. Brother Jesus agrees with eternal damnation. Does the Lake of Fire ring a bell?

So, how can you save ex-Mohammadan Mahmood? Do you think Christianity can save and provide fire insurance?
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#155668 Dec 7, 2012
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought you were also Adam, the first man ever walked this planet...
rabbee: The fist occurance of Adam, has already happened two days of G-D ago. and this is the end, of the sixth day again. and as you can see, i am still the pnly person here in TheTorah today. because all of you, are not here in it.

there are more than six billion of you, claiming to not be here in TheStory of Creation again. so i am the only one, here in IT. G-D does not recognize any of you, who claim your not here in TheTorah. G-D does not see, anyone not here in TheTorah as men. your all just a bunch, of talking critters.

you do not get credit as a man, just because talking critters errantly think they are men. calling yourself a man, does not make you a man in G-D'S EYES. a man is someone, who is here in TheStory of Creation THEY are giving again.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#155669 Dec 7, 2012
Mahmood wrote:
<quoted text>
And you are right, it is actually Mohammad-ur-rasool allah.
That was precisely my point. So, it was wrong of you to say that people call Muslims, Mohammadans because they read or say Mohammadan in "'Mohammadan Rasool Allah".

It was the Midevil (Medieval) Christian world that started it and it was heavily used by the Christian polemicists of the last four centuries.

You already know my opinion about these so-called modern scholars, whom I consider half-baked. Hence, no comment on those junkies. Junkies can say whatever they like.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#155670 Dec 8, 2012
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>Mohammad, being ILLITERATE, as some Muslims believe, didn't write any of the KORAN. Rather, he dictated it while his devoted scribes, a.k.a., MOHAMMADANS, recorded what he said.
I should add that devout MOHAMMADANS believe that the KORAN is the pure and unadulterated word of Allah, as though Mohammad was simply a human radio tuned to Allah's frequency, he himself having no input into or veto power over what was "revealed" by Allah via Jibreel. This is why MOHAMMADANS fly into murderous frenzies whenever the KORAN is desecrated. It is as though Allah HIMSELF (yes, the masculine pronoun is preferred in Islam) has been harmed, and of course, all such insults to the Majesty MUST BE AVENGED BY THE SLAVES!!!@!@!!!@
Actually all the Patriarchs and Prophets/Messengers of God were illiterate fellows.

Try to whack and screw Jesus in the Philippines or the Maluku Islands, also known as the Moluccas, or in Africa or among the Egyptian Copts and see how they would go berserk and fly into murderous frenzies.

As for the Western Christians, it is perfectly all right for others to bash and screw Jesus in the West. It is fine with them.

By the way, God is a potent He in Christianity too, because God is the Father, not the Mother. Right?

In Islam, God is not the Father.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#155671 Dec 8, 2012
@ Buford

Please read again, as i have added a new term for Christians:

Actually all the Patriarchs and Prophets/Messengers of God were illiterate fellows.

Try to whack and screw Jesus in the Philippines or the Maluku Islands, also known as the Moluccas, or in Africa or among the Egyptian Copts and see how the JESUSARIANS would go berserk and fly into murderous frenzies.

As for the Western Christians, it is perfectly all right for others to bash and screw Jesus in the West. It is fine with them.

By the way, God is a potent He in Christianity too, because God is the Father, not the Mother. Right?

In Islam, God is not the Father.
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#155672 Dec 8, 2012
bmz wrote:
Fire insurance will not help. Brother Jesus agrees with eternal damnation. Does the Lake of Fire ring a bell?
So, how can you save ex-Mohammadan Mahmood? Do you think Christianity can save and provide fire insurance?
Here's the thing, No Nails,

It's very bad manners to ever say to someone, "You will burn in hell" for the alleged sin of calling the MOHAMMADAN holy book the KORAN.
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#155673 Dec 8, 2012
bmz wrote:
That was precisely my point. So, it was wrong of you to say that people call Muslims, Mohammadans because they read or say Mohammadan in "'Mohammadan Rasool Allah".
It was the Midevil (Medieval) Christian world that started it and it was heavily used by the Christian polemicists of the last four centuries.
You already know my opinion about these so-called modern scholars, whom I consider half-baked. Hence, no comment on those junkies. Junkies can say whatever they like.
I call Muslims MOHAMMADANS for two main reasons:

1. Mohammad MUST be mentioned by name in the Muslim confession of faith, the Shahada, otherwise it isn't an authentic conversion or "reversion" to Islam. It strikes me as odd that the one religion on earth that most apoplectically declares that Allah has no partners has in fact made Mohammad Allah's indispensable partner on earth.

2. Muslims worship Mohammad -hailed as the *Perfect Man*. See: The Doctrine of the Perfect Man (Al-Insan al-Kamil) and its Significance Today
http://www.israinternational.com/the-perfect-... - when the records as compiled by the earliest MOHAMMADANS like Ibn Ishaq, Bukhari, Tabari, Muslim, et al., clearly show him to be a lying, thieving, rape enabling, sadist and murderer. The willingness of MOHAMMADANS to forgive the man his many glaring faults because he was serving "the cause of Allah" is nothing less than idolatry.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#155674 Dec 8, 2012
Mahmood wrote:
<quoted text>
I was once at a seminar in Toronto and the lecturer was Norman Stillman from the Univ of Oklahoma. I asked him if Moses ever existed and did he write the Torah. His answer to me was that from a theological perspective he did all of the above but if examined from a scientific perspective, none of it is true.
I think Norman Stillman did not answer to your question. You said to him if Moses ever existed and he told you that from a theological point of view he DID all, and from a scientific viewpoint none of it is true, meaning anything it said he dd was false.

So he rejected what he (Moses) did but has not answered about his existence.
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#155675 Dec 8, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for the news. How many more Senior Al-Qaidah leaders are left? Why can't the US finish 'em all? That should be fast, so that people can live in peace and harmony, after the trouble-makers have left.
Disaster in Iraq, Disaster in Afghanistan and Disaster in Pakistan.
Please inform all the old hags at Capitol Hill to stop this useless war of terror, which is not wroking at all and has turned into a Disaster for the US.
Thanks
The US can't "finish 'em all" because Al-Qaidah takes its marching orders directly from the KORAN.

KORAN:2:216 "Jihad is ordained for you, though you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and like a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows, and you know not."

KORAN:33:22 "Among the Believers are men who have been true to their covenant with Allah and have gone out for Jihad. Some have completed their vow to extreme and have been martyred fighting and dying in His Cause, and some are waiting, prepared for death in battle."

KORAN:9:111 "Allah has purchased the believers, their lives and their goods. For them (in return) is the Garden (of Paradise). They fight in Allah's Cause, and they slay and are slain; they kill and are killed."

Bukhari:V1B2N25 "Allah's Apostle was asked,'What is the best deed?' He replied,'To believe in Allah and His Apostle Muhammad.' The questioner then asked,'What is the next best in goodness?' He replied,'To participate in Jihad, religious fighting in Allah's Cause.'"

You see, then, that the only way to "finish 'em all" is to redact all ayats from the KORAN that advocate jihad, which is another way of saying that Mohammad must be discredited as a prophet, but no MOHAMMADAN would ever abide this insult to his idol, no matter how "moderate" and "peaceable" he is. Isn't that so?
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#155676 Dec 8, 2012
bmz wrote:
Actually all the Patriarchs and Prophets/Messengers of God were illiterate fellows.
Prove it.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#155677 Dec 8, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
May the good LORD shower more patience upon me, when dealing with you.
I wrote this:
"It is funny that you question and provide answers, which you fail to understand.
Wrong!
It wasn't said and it wasn't written : "Thou shall not take the name of the Lord."
It was said and it was written: "Thous shall not take the name of thy LORD in vain."
That means, one shall not take the name of the LORD in vain deeds, false oaths, false swearing, etc.
Moses was calling the LORD most of the time. If you read Jewish Scriptures, you will find instructions to remember the LORD and teach/preach/pray, etc., while sitting, standing and lying down.
When praying to the LORD was not forbidden, how could calling the name of the LORD fall in VAIN?
Do people pray to the LORD by spelling out a G, a hyphen and a D?
God is not the son of a man or a man to have a name. You can give beautiful names to God and there is no harm. Moses called God Almighty LORD, which is Adonai in Hebrew.
You are the one, who mentions it, so you should ask. If I were wrong, the members of Jewish faith would have certainly posted a note to correct me.
Where do you see G-d in here? "
Also, I had given you the links to Jewish sources, where God was spelled properly and you do not see any G-d there. Did you read at the two links which I gave you? Obviously not!
And now you write: " The question is the following, which name the god his lord does not want to be said/pronunced in vain?"
Is that what you understand by 'taking the name of the LORD in vain"?
Girls getting fucked, cry in ecstasy "Oh my God!" This is an example of calling the name of God in vain. Do you think God gave another name to be called in vain deeds?
One cannot tell his friend, "By God, I will take that girl to bed and fuck her!" This will be calling the name of God in vain.
A man deceives another by promising him in the name of God that he would help him in distress, swears upon God but does not keep that particular promise. That is an example of calling the name of God in vain.
Do you think God gave Moses another name for such activities? LMAO! You crack me up!
Why can't you understand?
Next time, please address my post para by para in separate short posts, as I do with Mahmood.
By the way it wasn't NEITHER written as you reported "Thou shall not take the name of the Lord in vain. but "Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain". You eliminated that part to make your point that I have demolished easily.

Moreover I haven't heard or seen any prayer using the name of god - YHVH. If yes tell us which Jewish prayer is.

The English word god is just a title used in ancient time by pagans and not a proper name. In today world the word Allah is translated as to god or the god. But is Allah (the god) the proper name of that divinity? No.

Ancient Jews thought the word god used in Europe was the proper name of that divinty, hence since they are prohibited to pronunce his name they wrote that word like this (g-d). And this thing passed on generation by generation. But as said above god is just a title and there is no reason for Jews to eliminate the vowel from that word. Am not surprised if some wrote tha wod properly, i.e. god.

To answer to my question what's the name of god is, you wrote: "Girls getting fucked, cry in ecstasy "Oh my God!" This is an example of calling the name of God in vain."

If until today, after that the Jews, here, have explained that their god goes by the name of YHVH, and after MAAT and Rabbee as explain to you that this god has a name, and it's not god the name, and after my many explications you still think that as in your example of girls in ecstasy screaming "Oh my God" that this is a calling the name of god in vain, then there is no point for anyone to discuss with a person so obtuse such as yourself.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#155678 Dec 8, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for the news. How many more Senior Al-Qaidah leaders are left? Why can't the US finish 'em all? That should be fast, so that people can live in peace and harmony, after the trouble-makers have left.
Disaster in Iraq, Disaster in Afghanistan and Disaster in Pakistan.
Please inform all the old hags at Capitol Hill to stop this useless war of terror, which is not wroking at all and has turned into a Disaster for the US.
Thanks
Many of these made up chaps are inside White House, Pentagon and CIA!
A character from a Tom Sharpe book written nearly 40 years ago says something like:

"Tell them there is a terror threat and don't know from where but we are prepared to defend the nation and that will make sure the the voters will forget about economic and other problems and keep us in power!

This is exactly what the liars are doing:

They go over to Iraq and Afghanistan...blow up innocent women and children....get a few chaps p'd off....and bingo...we get more terrorists...

War on terror is Invasion promoting terror.

Plus they use it to steal oil/natural resources, plus sell arms to dictators, charge an arm an a leg for re-constrution of infrastructure, that was fine until these maniacs deliberately and repeatedly bombed anything and everything!

Whenever they want the billions of dollars banked by the idiot dictators, they vilify them, arrest them, "cease" their assets and execute them!!

When will these moronic dictators learn?
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#155679 Dec 8, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
May the good LORD shower more patience upon me, when dealing with you.
I wrote this:
"It is funny that you question and provide answers, which you fail to understand.
Wrong!
It wasn't said and it wasn't written : "Thou shall not take the name of the Lord."
It was said and it was written: "Thous shall not take the name of thy LORD in vain."
That means, one shall not take the name of the LORD in vain deeds, false oaths, false swearing, etc.
Moses was calling the LORD most of the time. If you read Jewish Scriptures, you will find instructions to remember the LORD and teach/preach/pray, etc., while sitting, standing and lying down.
When praying to the LORD was not forbidden, how could calling the name of the LORD fall in VAIN?
Do people pray to the LORD by spelling out a G, a hyphen and a D?
God is not the son of a man or a man to have a name. You can give beautiful names to God and there is no harm. Moses called God Almighty LORD, which is Adonai in Hebrew.
You are the one, who mentions it, so you should ask. If I were wrong, the members of Jewish faith would have certainly posted a note to correct me.
Where do you see G-d in here? "
Also, I had given you the links to Jewish sources, where God was spelled properly and you do not see any G-d there. Did you read at the two links which I gave you? Obviously not!
And now you write: " The question is the following, which name the god his lord does not want to be said/pronunced in vain?"
Is that what you understand by 'taking the name of the LORD in vain"?
Girls getting fucked, cry in ecstasy "Oh my God!" This is an example of calling the name of God in vain. Do you think God gave another name to be called in vain deeds?
One cannot tell his friend, "By God, I will take that girl to bed and fuck her!" This will be calling the name of God in vain.
A man deceives another by promising him in the name of God that he would help him in distress, swears upon God but does not keep that particular promise. That is an example of calling the name of God in vain.
Do you think God gave Moses another name for such activities? LMAO! You crack me up!
Why can't you understand?
Next time, please address my post para by para in separate short posts, as I do with Mahmood.
Para by para?
He doesn't address what we give...he addresses his own assumtpions.
He is a robot without stop, rethink, admit mistake, apologise buttons!
Good luck with mr. Stupido Colonic irrigator!!!
Salaams
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#155680 Dec 8, 2012
@ BMZ....Correction..
I have succumbed to the relentless onslaught on Queen's English by mr Stupido Colonic irrigator!
"Cease" assets?
"Seize" or "sequestrate"!! Duh!!
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#155681 Dec 8, 2012
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>In case you missed it, according to Alex 123456789akaWhackyMuslim, "You will burn in hell."
Here's hoping that you have fire insurance.
lol...
Hello anti-gentile christ killer bu(ttturdlick)ford!
You will be in hot excrement and semen, instead of Jesus, according to the revised Talmudic pronouncements.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#155682 Dec 8, 2012
Buford wrote:
"You know why...you are deliberately referring to the Holy Quran as koran.
You are referring to Muslims as mohamamdans." ~ Alex1234567890akaWhackiestOfAl lPossibleMuslims
He's wrong. I know for a FACT that you refer to the Qur'an as the Koran, and to mohammadans as Mohammadans, but the Medicated One likes to rewrite history. It's his schtick.
hello anti-gentile christkiller bu(ttturdlick)ford!
Why don't you circumcise yourself again and read the Talmudic writings on Jesus?
Holy Quran is doing fine without you.
Mahmood

Mississauga, Canada

#155683 Dec 8, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
That was precisely my point. So, it was wrong of you to say that people call Muslims, Mohammadans because they read or say Mohammadan in "'Mohammadan Rasool Allah".
It was the Midevil (Medieval) Christian world that started it and it was heavily used by the Christian polemicists of the last four centuries.
You already know my opinion about these so-called modern scholars, whom I consider half-baked. Hence, no comment on those junkies. Junkies can say whatever they like.
Just because you dont have a good word to say about any scholar, does not mean what they'v written is not true. Forget about old Christians writers, Chritian scholars are now coming out and challenging Christianity, can a Mohammadan scholar do the same about his own religion in Iran or Pakistan?

Critcal Christians regard writings of the Hebrew Bible and the NT as products of human authors who wrote them under the inspiration of the Spirit of God while you guys regard the Koran as the literal word of God and that is a problem. Critical research into the sources of the Koran & Hadith was discouraged and even banned in Islamic countries as result belief in the un-createdness and infallibility of the Koran triumphed over belief in its historicity.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#155684 Dec 8, 2012
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Never work from memory. Should have been no. 3.
And don't give me that freudian slip bs.
yes dear "honest" person.
No 1 is your category!
You know No. 3 is the best.
Being one of your fellow non-gentile...will Freud get a ticket too?
Do you really think that readers are stupid?
We all know that the chaps in No. 1 will never allow others join it.
They slipped up by inventing Noahidism, a fourth class ticket to nowhere!!!!!!
Enjoy ring side seats with the other 143,999 members!!
But only 12000 from the tribe of Judah will be admitted I guess!
Why does the OT make Judah the biggest murderer in town?
Why does he wipe off all the 11 tribes out of 12?
Does he want all 144000 tickets?
When he realises that the tickets are for a different game with very hot oil and burning fire...it will be too late.
Yep..No. 3 is the BEST.

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