Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 255929 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

Eric

Sugar Grove, IL

#155651 Dec 7, 2012
Eric wrote:
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I answered your questions. You asked for which of the 3 choices I belonged to. I said no. 1. You don't like the answer, but I'm not hear to feed you the answers you want.
You asked for how people could become full fledged members of Judaism, I gave you an example. We don't seek converts. We don't force converts. But, we don't reject converts either.
So, in Islam, what are the "few rules". The Thread is waiting for you to "Fill the room with your intelligence".
Never work from memory. Should have been no. 3.

And don't give me that freudian slip bs.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#155652 Dec 7, 2012
bmz wrote:
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Looking at your "HE is HOO, TheOne is HaEchad,", it should then be HHE, courtesy English.
Rabbee, listen to me, please. YHVH or YHWH is no name.
In fact, when God said, if God really had said, "I am who I am", God was reprimanding Moses or was telling him not to ask for God's name because God has no name.
God also did not tell him, "My name is Hashem or El or G-d or YHVH, etc". God simply stopped him by saying, "I am who I am".
Thanks for blowing up YHVH and YHWH both. lol!
rabbee: well apparently your source, and my SOURCE are in disagreement. and my SOURCE, IS G-D. so what is yours, that is not from G-D HIMSELVES? cause i know what, I-SHALL-BE came and said to me. or do you think, that a son from a family with an athiest step father. figured this all out on his own, without any true help from G-D HIMSELVES. as it is obvious, i did not get any of this, from the world either.

as i even realize you do not accept, THE DESCRIPTION OF G-D GIVEN TO ADAM. with G-D as my only, True REDEMPTION. as your attempt to derail or side-rail the discussion, have failed. as G-D gave TheWhole Torah to Moshe, on mt seeanee. and it has all TheNames and Descriptions of G-D in IT. and even included, the future events of Moshe and TheMultitudes in it.

and it took Moshe a while, to realize just like me. there is nothing we can do to change it once G-D is told Our Story. i know the fustration of Moshe, cause i been there through it too myself. only G-D HIMSELVES can make changes to ThisStory of Creation. so if i can convince you all to sin no more, then maybe just maybe this will encourage G-D to make some changes. otherwise were just spreading out, more misery to this whole miserable world.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#155653 Dec 7, 2012
do any of you, have any idea. how hard it was, for me to accept. my TRUE PARENTS, are not of this world. and that i only had a step father, and surrogate mother. and that trying to look normal in this world, never worked out for me. for G-D'S Sakes! i am the child of ULTRA-TERRESTIAL ALIENS, implanted on earth. my G-D! i am, an x-file.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#155654 Dec 7, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
do any of you, have any idea. how hard it was, for me to accept. my TRUE PARENTS, are not of this world. and that i only had a step father, and surrogate mother. and that trying to look normal in this world, never worked out for me. for G-D'S Sakes! i am the child of ULTRA-TERRESTIAL ALIENS, implanted on earth. my G-D! i am, an x-file.
How long have you been living in this planet, x-file?
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#155655 Dec 7, 2012
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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How long have you been living in this planet, x-file?
rabbee: well lets see, so far this time 68 + the previous 33 years = 101years that i know of personally. not counting any possible, very short visits, where i was not here to reside.

and i never even got a visit, from agents skulder, mulley or doggone.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#155656 Dec 7, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: well lets see, so far this time 68 + the previous 33 years = 101years that i know of personally. not counting any possible, very short visits, where i was not here to reside.
and i never even got a visit, from agents skulder, mulley or doggone.
I thought you were also Adam, the first man ever walked this planet...
Mahmood

Schomberg, Canada

#155657 Dec 7, 2012
bmz wrote:
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Hello, Mahmood
That is really silly and an absurd reasoning.
Were you really ever a Muslim before? If you were a Muslim, as you say, is that the way you read out the "shahadah"?
No Muslim ever reads or says or declares this way: "Mohammadan Rasool Allah". Crazy! You cracked me up!
Muslims will say: Muhammadur-Rasoolal-lah
The Midevil anti-Islam folks, I mean the Medieval Christian Crusaders and the folks of the modern Christianity started calling Muslims, Mohammadans because those ignorant fools thought of Muslims as his followers only.
The point is that your argument was wrong and you made it up. You shot your own foot!
I went to majalises, did matam, grieved for Hussain & his family, all for nothing. And you are right, it is actually Mohammad-ur-rasool allah. We also went one step further, we said "Ali an waliullah, wasi an rasool allah". I dont care what Christians called you, but you guys are Mohammadans. I say this because I firmly believe that Allah is Mohammads alter ego, at least in the Koranic sense. I guess I read the shahadah all wrong throught my life, but what does it matter now. As far as I am concerned, Islam is just another dessert cult.

I would advise you to read this wonderful book called "The Evolution of God" by Robert Wright. In it he says "And as for the business about Moses leading Hebrews out of bondage: There was no mass Exodus from Egypt writes Frinkelstein".

He then goes to say "But some biblical historians now doubt that Moses even existed, and virtually none now believe that the biblical accounts of Moses are reliable. These stories were written down centuries after the events they describe....."

I was once at a seminar in Toronto and the lecturer was Norman Stillman from the Univ of Oklahoma. I asked him if Moses ever existed and did he write the Torah. His answer to me was that from a theological perspective he did all of the above but if examined from a scientific perspective, none of it is true.

So you see brother bmz, stories about Khider, Moses, two horned one, Gog Magog, Jonah, Lot, She Camel, Ad & Thamud, Sodom & Gamorah, Uzair, dessert wondering for 40 years, armies drowning, sleeping for 300 years etc are excellent bedtime stories for children. Had my kids been younger, I would have relied on the Koran to keep them entertained.
Mahmood

Schomberg, Canada

#155658 Dec 7, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Having said that, you are a Moron who hasn't a clue about Christianity or Islam.
Oh sorry, you claim that you have married one of our white Christian women who is not interested in what 1300 million Catholics believe in, namely father/son/ghost trinity!
If you cannot respect my religion why should I respect you.
If I call you a monkey will you like it?
You can correct me and then I will not call you a monkey!
Similarly I am correcting you here:
I am a Muslim and not Muhammedan.
So address me properly.
My religious book is referred to as The Quran not koran/coran.
Until then you can keep posting from anti muslim sites posing as an ex muslim!
Rasool...is NOT God!
You must first go away and understand what Islam is!!
"Submission in peace to the Will of God (not of Muhammed)in pursuit of peace"
A Muslim is the person who submits in peace to the Will of God (not of Muhammed) in pursuit of peace"
A mohammdan is a derisory term and you know it -just like koran/coran is.
Is Muhammad or Muslim or a Muhammdan?
Are you suggesting that only Muhammed was a Muslim and all are muhammadan?
You really are a moron.
What I am suggesting is that Allah is Mohammad's alter ego and that is why I call you guys Mohammadans. If you read the Koran, Allah is just pawn in this whole grand scheme of Mohammad's. You guys see god as having tailored the Koran's different verses to the varying circumstances Mohammad would encounter. My assumption in contrast is that Mohammad himself was doing the tailoring - even if often unconsciously and even if convinced god was doing it.
Mahmood

Schomberg, Canada

#155659 Dec 7, 2012
bmz wrote:
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Who told you that there was no Torah before 500BC? The people just did not come up with a book in a flash after 500 BC.
What makes you think that David may have existed? Did you find him mentioned elsewhere in History?
That is why I have told you many times that all the past events came through the generations of people, who were in the region. The subject of History and the historians arrived long, long after.
Same goes for archaeologists.
Go researach the Torah and find out for yourself. Oral tradition is not history and human memory is unrealiable and for this reason, the Koran is suspect as well. I doubt if Mohammad wrote the whole Koran.
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#155660 Dec 7, 2012
Mahmood wrote:
Go researach the Torah and find out for yourself. Oral tradition is not history and human memory is unrealiable and for this reason, the Koran is suspect as well. I doubt if Mohammad wrote the whole Koran.
Mohammad, being ILLITERATE, as some Muslims believe, didn't write any of the KORAN. Rather, he dictated it while his devoted scribes, a.k.a., MOHAMMADANS, recorded what he said.

I should add that devout MOHAMMADANS believe that the KORAN is the pure and unadulterated word of Allah, as though Mohammad was simply a human radio tuned to Allah's frequency, he himself having no input into or veto power over what was "revealed" by Allah via Jibreel. This is why MOHAMMADANS fly into murderous frenzies whenever the KORAN is desecrated. It is as though Allah HIMSELF (yes, the masculine pronoun is preferred in Islam) has been harmed, and of course, all such insults to the Majesty MUST BE AVENGED BY THE SLAVES!!!@!@!!!@

Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#155661 Dec 7, 2012
Mahmood wrote:
Go researach the Torah and find out for yourself. Oral tradition is not history and human memory is unrealiable and for this reason, the Koran is suspect as well. I doubt if Mohammad wrote the whole Koran.
In case you missed it, according to Alex 123456789akaWhackyMuslim, "You will burn in hell."

Here's hoping that you have fire insurance.
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#155662 Dec 7, 2012
"You know why...you are deliberately referring to the Holy Quran as koran.
You are referring to Muslims as mohamamdans." ~ Alex1234567890akaWhackiestOfAl lPossibleMuslims

He's wrong. I know for a FACT that you refer to the Qur'an as the Koran, and to mohammadans as Mohammadans, but the Medicated One likes to rewrite history. It's his schtick.
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#155663 Dec 7, 2012
Meanwhile...

Senior al-Qaida leader killed in drone strike in Pakistan, jihadis, US officials say
http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/...

Excerpt:

The news was first announced on an al-Qaida web forum early Friday.“We celebrate to you the news of the martyrdom of the working scholar Shaykh Khalid al-Hussainan (Abu Zaid al-Kuwaiti) while eating his Suhoor (dawn time) meal, and we ask Allah to accept him in paradise," a post said.
__________
Hmm...Allah could always say "No"...
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#155664 Dec 7, 2012
They didn't say the magic word.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#155665 Dec 7, 2012
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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I think you want to turn around the point without face it.

If you think that if you were wrong the Jews would have pointed out this yet, then according to your logic I am not wrong as well, since none of them told am wrong. But aside this, I do remember in the past that they admitted YHVH is its name and in an occasion MAAT correct you giving me right. Now rabbee this is part by correcting you.

Is this what there is written? "You shall not take the name of the Lord, your God, in vain, for the Lord will not hold blameless anyone who takes His name in vain."

The question is the following, which name the god his lord does not want to be said/pronunced in vain?
May the good LORD shower more patience upon me, when dealing with you.

I wrote this:

"It is funny that you question and provide answers, which you fail to understand.
Wrong!

It wasn't said and it wasn't written : "Thou shall not take the name of the Lord."

It was said and it was written: "Thous shall not take the name of thy LORD in vain."

That means, one shall not take the name of the LORD in vain deeds, false oaths, false swearing, etc.

Moses was calling the LORD most of the time. If you read Jewish Scriptures, you will find instructions to remember the LORD and teach/preach/pray, etc., while sitting, standing and lying down.

When praying to the LORD was not forbidden, how could calling the name of the LORD fall in VAIN?
Do people pray to the LORD by spelling out a G, a hyphen and a D?

God is not the son of a man or a man to have a name. You can give beautiful names to God and there is no harm. Moses called God Almighty LORD, which is Adonai in Hebrew.

You are the one, who mentions it, so you should ask. If I were wrong, the members of Jewish faith would have certainly posted a note to correct me.

Where do you see G-d in here? "

Also, I had given you the links to Jewish sources, where God was spelled properly and you do not see any G-d there. Did you read at the two links which I gave you? Obviously not!

And now you write: " The question is the following, which name the god his lord does not want to be said/pronunced in vain?"

Is that what you understand by 'taking the name of the LORD in vain"?

Girls getting fucked, cry in ecstasy "Oh my God!" This is an example of calling the name of God in vain. Do you think God gave another name to be called in vain deeds?

One cannot tell his friend, "By God, I will take that girl to bed and fuck her!" This will be calling the name of God in vain.

A man deceives another by promising him in the name of God that he would help him in distress, swears upon God but does not keep that particular promise. That is an example of calling the name of God in vain.

Do you think God gave Moses another name for such activities? LMAO! You crack me up!

Why can't you understand?

Next time, please address my post para by para in separate short posts, as I do with Mahmood.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#155666 Dec 7, 2012
Buford wrote:
Meanwhile...
Senior al-Qaida leader killed in drone strike in Pakistan, jihadis, US officials say
http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/...
Excerpt:
The news was first announced on an al-Qaida web forum early Friday.“We celebrate to you the news of the martyrdom of the working scholar Shaykh Khalid al-Hussainan (Abu Zaid al-Kuwaiti) while eating his Suhoor (dawn time) meal, and we ask Allah to accept him in paradise," a post said.
__________
Hmm...Allah could always say "No"...
Thanks for the news. How many more Senior Al-Qaidah leaders are left? Why can't the US finish 'em all? That should be fast, so that people can live in peace and harmony, after the trouble-makers have left.

Disaster in Iraq, Disaster in Afghanistan and Disaster in Pakistan.

Please inform all the old hags at Capitol Hill to stop this useless war of terror, which is not wroking at all and has turned into a Disaster for the US.

Thanks

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#155667 Dec 7, 2012
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>In case you missed it, according to Alex 123456789akaWhackyMuslim, "You will burn in hell."
Here's hoping that you have fire insurance.
Fire insurance will not help. Brother Jesus agrees with eternal damnation. Does the Lake of Fire ring a bell?

So, how can you save ex-Mohammadan Mahmood? Do you think Christianity can save and provide fire insurance?
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#155668 Dec 7, 2012
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought you were also Adam, the first man ever walked this planet...
rabbee: The fist occurance of Adam, has already happened two days of G-D ago. and this is the end, of the sixth day again. and as you can see, i am still the pnly person here in TheTorah today. because all of you, are not here in it.

there are more than six billion of you, claiming to not be here in TheStory of Creation again. so i am the only one, here in IT. G-D does not recognize any of you, who claim your not here in TheTorah. G-D does not see, anyone not here in TheTorah as men. your all just a bunch, of talking critters.

you do not get credit as a man, just because talking critters errantly think they are men. calling yourself a man, does not make you a man in G-D'S EYES. a man is someone, who is here in TheStory of Creation THEY are giving again.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#155669 Dec 7, 2012
Mahmood wrote:
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And you are right, it is actually Mohammad-ur-rasool allah.
That was precisely my point. So, it was wrong of you to say that people call Muslims, Mohammadans because they read or say Mohammadan in "'Mohammadan Rasool Allah".

It was the Midevil (Medieval) Christian world that started it and it was heavily used by the Christian polemicists of the last four centuries.

You already know my opinion about these so-called modern scholars, whom I consider half-baked. Hence, no comment on those junkies. Junkies can say whatever they like.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#155670 Dec 8, 2012
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>Mohammad, being ILLITERATE, as some Muslims believe, didn't write any of the KORAN. Rather, he dictated it while his devoted scribes, a.k.a., MOHAMMADANS, recorded what he said.
I should add that devout MOHAMMADANS believe that the KORAN is the pure and unadulterated word of Allah, as though Mohammad was simply a human radio tuned to Allah's frequency, he himself having no input into or veto power over what was "revealed" by Allah via Jibreel. This is why MOHAMMADANS fly into murderous frenzies whenever the KORAN is desecrated. It is as though Allah HIMSELF (yes, the masculine pronoun is preferred in Islam) has been harmed, and of course, all such insults to the Majesty MUST BE AVENGED BY THE SLAVES!!!@!@!!!@
Actually all the Patriarchs and Prophets/Messengers of God were illiterate fellows.

Try to whack and screw Jesus in the Philippines or the Maluku Islands, also known as the Moluccas, or in Africa or among the Egyptian Copts and see how they would go berserk and fly into murderous frenzies.

As for the Western Christians, it is perfectly all right for others to bash and screw Jesus in the West. It is fine with them.

By the way, God is a potent He in Christianity too, because God is the Father, not the Mother. Right?

In Islam, God is not the Father.

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