Who Is Allah?

[Alex123 aka WM]

bmz wrote:

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The best example that I can give to show what you are, is as follows:
You are like a donkey laden with books but does not know how to read and understand.
What does 4:152 say? Explain instead of braying!

He really is a donkey!
He also knows nothing about "angels" and Mary!
Let's us give him more rope to help him!
Salaams

[STEFANO COLONNA]

Alex123 aka WM wrote:

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Now let us see....
Where is the contradiction?
1. Jews who are the Children of those who rejected Prophet Jesus the messenger of God, but properly follow Judaism as it was BEFORE Prophet Jesus and Prophet Muhammed. They still believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness.
2. Jews who are the Children of those who accepted Prophet Jesus as JUST the messenger of God but NOT God (the disciples for example did exactly that). They still believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness. Their "religion" was practised BEFORE prophet Muhammed.
3. Others who accept Jesus as Messenger of God but NOT God and those who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness.
These can be BEFORE or AFTER Muhammed. BEFORE Muhammed they were loosely referred to as "Christians" and AFTER Mhammed they are loosely referred to as Muslims.
4. Quran clearly refers to those who worship Jesus or anything other than God as non-believers even if they believe in the Last Day, and work righteousness.
5. Those who rejected the messengers when sent to them will have to explain their actions to God at the right place and time.
6. Those who worship a naked man as God or son of God do NOT believe in God. They will have to explain their "faith" to God at the right place and time.
Hope you can work with this.

You were suppossed to explain there is not contradiction but you end up to dodge the problem, being yourself unable to understand and find a solution to those famous verses.

Quran 2:62 clearly tells Christians and Jews will have a nice rewards, while Quran 4150-151 says that who believe in Allah and in some messengers but don't believe in other messengers are called unbelievers and they will receive a harsh punishment.

At the light of this, all the Jews, that after Muhammad passed away, reject Jesus and Muhammad as messengers of god, will they have a nice or bad reward? Why?

All the Christians, that after Muhammad passed away, reject Muhammad as messenger of god, will they have a nice or bad reward? Why?

[STEFANO COLONNA]

Alex123 aka WM wrote:

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oh really?
why don't you show your knowledge of bible.
Find me a direct quote from Jesus claiming divinity in clear terms.
Go for it punk.

I never said he was/is divine nor that the Bible said so. At the best he was just a human being. In any case you have a poor knowledge of Christian belief. Too bad for a former "priest".

[Alex123 aka WM]

STEFANO COLONNA wrote:

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You were suppossed to explain there is not contradiction but you end up to dodge the problem, being yourself unable to understand and find a solution to those famous verses.
Quran 2:62 clearly tells Christians and Jews will have a nice rewards, while Quran 4150-151 says that who believe in Allah and in some messengers but don't believe in other messengers are called unbelievers and they will receive a harsh punishment.
At the light of this, all the Jews, that after Muhammad passed away, reject Jesus and Muhammad as messengers of god, will they have a nice or bad reward? Why?
All the Christians, that after Muhammad passed away, reject Muhammad as messenger of god, will they have a nice or bad reward? Why?

Either you have a language and comprehension problem or your IQ needs turbo charging.
I have given the answers that you have just asked for!
Pseudo intellectual Voltaire!

[Alex123 aka WM]

STEFANO COLONNA wrote:

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I never said he was/is divine nor that the Bible said so. At the best he was just a human being. In any case you have a poor knowledge of Christian belief. Too bad for a former "priest".

You are an idiot trying to hide behind your language problems.
Your stupidity is evident from your ill researched challenges taken from anti muslim sites that most of us have tackled successfully several times.
My knowledge of Christianity facilitated my reversion rather swiftly.
Please go talk to kids your age.

[Alex123 aka WM]

STEFANO COLONNA wrote:

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You were suppossed to explain there is not contradiction but you end up to dodge the problem, being yourself unable to understand and find a solution to those famous verses.
Quran 2:62 clearly tells Christians and Jews will have a nice rewards, while Quran 4150-151 says that who believe in Allah and in some messengers but don't believe in other messengers are called unbelievers and they will receive a harsh punishment.
At the light of this, all the Jews, that after Muhammad passed away, reject Jesus and Muhammad as messengers of god, will they have a nice or bad reward? Why?
All the Christians, that after Muhammad passed away, reject Muhammad as messenger of god, will they have a nice or bad reward? Why?

Does anybody take notice of you?
You display a remarkable lack of comprehension.
Just read your comments!
They are so very shallow and very badly researched.
People like you must be packed off to lower kindergarten to re learn your alphabet.

[STEFANO COLONNA]

Alex123 aka WM wrote:

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you are a clueless fool trying to look clever hiding behind your lack of exposure to Queen's English.
comical!

I don't know where I can find more nonsense if from Quran or in your posts!?

First off, no one has exposed my lack of Queen's English, there was only one fool that for some light typos made a big deal, while himself was not able to follow simple grammar rules.

Second, the Queen's English is not about whether or not a person can write English properly but rather is a kind of accent.

Third, it does not require to be a genius, to know that a non English speakers/a non british citizen does not know to speak the English's Queen. Each post you write down you are getting dumber.

Fourth, why don't you comeback in elementary school and learn grammar rules, because in any of your posts is evident you don't know how to use punctuation marks, nor you know how and when to use the caps. Reading your posts I noted that the flows in your sentences are broken, upsetting therefore the reading and your posts are disorderly, among many flaws you present.

Fifth I noted that both you and George have the same grammar problems, and the weird thing is both of you are from UK, but according to you he's an Indian, and in a way he's justified, while you who claim to british citizen by birth, and you cannot be justified in anyway. So George writes better than you, big time.

I doubt you know to speak English's Queen

[STEFANO COLONNA]

Alex123 aka WM wrote:

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Either you have a language and comprehension problem or your IQ needs turbo charging.
I have given the answers that you have just asked for!
Pseudo intellectual Voltaire!

Just admit you are incapable to answer.

[STEFANO COLONNA]

Alex123 aka WM wrote:

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You are an idiot trying to hide behind your language problems.
Your stupidity is evident from your ill researched challenges taken from anti muslim sites that most of us have tackled successfully several times.
My knowledge of Christianity facilitated my reversion rather swiftly.
Please go talk to kids your age.

It's time to take your pills there is not logic link between my posts an your responses.

[Alex123 aka WM]

STEFANO COLONNA wrote:

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I don't know where I can find more nonsense if from Quran or in your posts!?
First off, no one has exposed my lack of Queen's English, there was only one fool that for some light typos made a big deal, while himself was not able to follow simple grammar rules.
Second, the Queen's English is not about whether or not a person can write English properly but rather is a kind of accent.
Third, it does not require to be a genius, to know that a non English speakers/a non british citizen does not know to speak the English's Queen. Each post you write down you are getting dumber.
Fourth, why don't you comeback in elementary school and learn grammar rules, because in any of your posts is evident you don't know how to use punctuation marks, nor you know how and when to use the caps. Reading your posts I noted that the flows in your sentences are broken, upsetting therefore the reading and your posts are disorderly, among many flaws you present.
Fifth I noted that both you and George have the same grammar problems, and the weird thing is both of you are from UK, but according to you he's an Indian, and in a way he's justified, while you who claim to british citizen by birth, and you cannot be justified in anyway. So George writes better than you, big time.
I doubt you know to speak English's Queen

"I doubt you know to speak English's Queen"..lol!!
I agree, George, being a wiley fox, has more brains than you!
Look here dear intellectually challenged...please read my response..if you cannot understand it...get an intelligient person to explain it to you.
You will find it spot on.
Now leave us.

[Alex123 aka WM]

STEFANO COLONNA wrote:

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Just admit you are incapable to answer.

Just admit that you are intellectually challenged.
Hiding behind your baby english is pretty cowardly.

[STEFANO COLONNA]

Alex123 aka WM wrote:

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Does anybody take notice of you?
You display a remarkable lack of comprehension.
Just read your comments!
They are so very shallow and very badly researched.
People like you must be packed off to lower kindergarten to re learn your alphabet.

Learn my alphabet? I don't own any alphabet, little fool. In the kindergarten you are taught the alphabet. And then it's me who displayes a remarkable lack of comprehension. As I told you before I don't know where I can find more nonsese if in Quran or in your posts!?

[Alex123 aka WM]

STEFANO COLONNA wrote:

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It's time to take your pills there is not logic link between my posts an your responses.

"It's time to take your pills there is not logic link between my posts an your responses."

Do you wish me to correct the above so ordinary mortals might begin to understand you?

You continue to Murder our Queen's language!

Instead of playing clever.....READ and UNDERSTAND my post.

Obviously you are not aware that your English comprehension skill (or lack of it) is letting you down badly, or is your brain too frozen to function properly in winter?
Stick your head in warm water to thaw your brain but please plug your ears to prevent your left over liquid brain from flowing out!

[STEFANO COLONNA]

CORECTION POST #155416

Learn my alphabet? I don't own any alphabet, little fool. In the kindergarten you are NOT taught the alphabet. And then it's me who display remarkable lack of comprehension. As I told you before I don't know where I can find more nonsese if in Quran or in your posts!?

[Alex123 aka WM]

STEFANO COLONNA wrote:

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Learn my alphabet? I don't own any alphabet, little fool. In the kindergarten you are taught the alphabet. And then it's me who displayes a remarkable lack of comprehension. As I told you before I don't know where I can find more nonsese if in Quran or in your posts!?

Good lord, you DO have a HUGE comprehension problem!

Are you getting rattled? Poor you!

The nonsense or "nonsese" comes form you!
Go back and read my post like a good boy.
Try to understand it.
Stop making a complete idiot of yourself.

[Alex123 aka WM]

see.....now I am typing "nonsese"..."fo rm"..and "from"......lol

[Mahmood]

Alex123 aka WM wrote:

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Now let us see....
Where is the contradiction?
1. Jews who are the Children of those who rejected Prophet Jesus the messenger of God, but properly follow Judaism as it was BEFORE Prophet Jesus and Prophet Muhammed. They still believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness.
2. Jews who are the Children of those who accepted Prophet Jesus as JUST the messenger of God but NOT God (the disciples for example did exactly that). They still believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness. Their "religion" was practised BEFORE prophet Muhammed.
3. Others who accept Jesus as Messenger of God but NOT God and those who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness.
These can be BEFORE or AFTER Muhammed. BEFORE Muhammed they were loosely referred to as "Christians" and AFTER Mhammed they are loosely referred to as Muslims.
4. Quran clearly refers to those who worship Jesus or anything other than God as non-believers even if they believe in the Last Day, and work righteousness.
5. Those who rejected the messengers when sent to them will have to explain their actions to God at the right place and time.
6. Those who worship a naked man as God or son of God do NOT believe in God. They will have to explain their "faith" to God at the right place and time.
Hope you can work with this.

Allah Jews & Christians before or after Mohammad believe in one alimighty creator and last the last day. 2:62 say nothing about "before Mohammad or after Mohammad". It says nothing about those Jews/Christians/Sabians who follow the true or false teachings. According 2:62, all that a Jew/Christian/Sabian has to do is believe in Allah and the last day - which they do. 2:62 does not insist that people of the book have to accept Mohammad as the messenger of god. In fact there is no provision in there that they have to accept Mohammad as an apostle of god.

4:150-151 on the other hand tells us something different. It tells us those who distinguish between messengers, accepting some and rejecting others will burn in hell.

[Alex123 aka WM]

STEFANO COLONNA wrote:

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Just admit you are incapable to answer.

incapable TO answer?
READ this you fool...ask a person with brains to explain it to you. Then come back here on all fours AND apologise...

1. Jews who are the Children of those who rejected Prophet Jesus the messenger of God, but properly follow Judaism as it was BEFORE Prophet Jesus and Prophet Muhammed. They still believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness.

2. Jews who are the Children of those who accepted Prophet Jesus as JUST the messenger of God but NOT God (the disciples for example did exactly that). They still believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness. Their "religion" was practised BEFORE prophet Muhammed.

3. Others who accept Jesus as Messenger of God but NOT God and those who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness.
These can be BEFORE or AFTER Muhammed. BEFORE Muhammed they were loosely referred to as "Christians" and AFTER Mhammed they are loosely referred to as Muslims.

4. Quran clearly refers to those who worship Jesus or anything other than God as non-believers even if they believe in the Last Day, and work righteousness.

5. Those who rejected the messengers when sent to them will have to explain their actions to God at the right place and time.

6. Those who worship a naked man as God or son of God do NOT believe in God. They will have to explain their "faith" to God at the right place and time.

[Alex123 aka WM]

Mahmood wrote:

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Allah Jews & Christians before or after Mohammad believe in one alimighty creator and last the last day. 2:62 say nothing about "before Mohammad or after Mohammad". It says nothing about those Jews/Christians/Sabians who follow the true or false teachings. According 2:62, all that a Jew/Christian/Sabian has to do is believe in Allah and the last day - which they do. 2:62 does not insist that people of the book have to accept Mohammad as the messenger of god. In fact there is no provision in there that they have to accept Mohammad as an apostle of god.
4:150-151 on the other hand tells us something different. It tells us those who distinguish between messengers, accepting some and rejecting others will burn in hell.

Oh dear me..!
Do Christians of "today" believe in ONE Almighty creator?
Who is that then?
Who is Jesus then?
Do you know much about Christianity?
I have given a thought process...work WITH it, instead of working AGAINST it.

[STEFANO COLONNA]

Alex123 aka WM wrote:

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incapable TO answer?READ this you fool...ask a person with brains to explain it to you. Then come back here on all fours AND apologise...

Yes. You are a little bigot who defend its religion until you alone see its flaws. I used to read your posts here when you wre Christian defending that religion (Christianity) until you changed your mind, but before, that was the true religion of god, not matter what the others were telling you, they were always wrong. In the very moment you converted you showed to be the wrong one. Now you are Muslim but the music is always the same untill you don't see by yourself the absurdities of your faith, and stop to deny the evidence. No matter what the others tell you, you are obtuse. None of your 6 points answer to my questions. Pay attention this time and tell me which of your 6 points answer to my questions.

Alex123 aka WM wrote:

<quoted text>1. Jews who are the Children of those who rejected Prophet Jesus the messenger of God, but properly follow Judaism as it was BEFORE Prophet Jesus and Prophet Muhammed. They still believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness.

2. Jews who are the Children of those who accepted Prophet Jesus as JUST the messenger of God but NOT God (the disciples for example did exactly that). They still believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness. Their "religion" was practised BEFORE prophet Muhammed.

3. Others who accept Jesus as Messenger of God but NOT God and those who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness.
These can be BEFORE or AFTER Muhammed. BEFORE Muhammed they were loosely referred to as "Christians" and AFTER Mhammed they are loosely referred to as Muslims.

4. Quran clearly refers to those who worship Jesus or anything other than God as non-believers even if they believe in the Last Day, and work righteousness.

5. Those who rejected the messengers when sent to them will have to explain their actions to God at the right place and time.

6. Those who worship a naked man as God or son of God do NOT believe in God. They will have to explain their "faith" to God at the right place and time.

Quran 2:62 clearly tells Christians and Jews will have a nice rewards, while Quran 4:150-151 says that who believe in Allah and in some messengers but don't believe in other messengers are called unbelievers and they will receive a harsh punishment.

At the light of this, all the Jews, that after Muhammad passed away, reject Jesus and Muhammad as messengers of god, will they have a nice or bad reward? Why?

All the Christians, that after Muhammad passed away, reject Muhammad as messenger of god, will they have a nice or bad reward? Why?