Who Is Allah?

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

Frijoles wrote:

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Does the Israeli "charter" advocate genocide or jihad? I think not.
Is the hate codified by the official government docs?
The difference between the Israeli side and the Hamas side is that the Israeli side has always been interested in state building. yes, there have been wars and expansion. But the focus is on state building, not violence.
For someone to equate the Hamas violence with Israelis response is the height of nievtivity.
You forget, Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 with the expectation that the Palestinians would create a stable civilized society. Instead, from day one, what they got, was rocket attacks.

rabbee: well i do not know why these, obvious prejudiced muslems. are giving you bad marks, for being closer to the truth than they are? for as i am concerned, they have been, and still are guilty of aiding and abeting murder, robbery, kidnapping in bearing false wittness.

personally frijoles, i though it was rather good. for someone in this world. not often people get that close, to the truth without being the whole truth.

[Morales]

Frijoles wrote:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articl es/0,7340,L-4308320,00.html
Arab paper: Leave Israel alone, deal with Syria
Asharq Alawsat editor claims Syria, Iran instigated escalation between Israel, Gaza to aid Assad regime
According to Alhomayed, the Iranians tried heating up the fronts on the Israeli borders via their agents. When unsuccessful on the Syrian and Lebanese fronts, they chose the Gaza Strip. "When the Golan front did not move quickly enough for al-Assad and Iran, they resorted to the Gaza front, because this can be inflamed far quicker, whilst it is also easier for Israel in this regard. For Israel, Gaza is like a punching bag that can be used for training and muscle flexing, whilst success in Gaza would strike several “files” in one go ".

the situation in Syria has been almost completely ignored in the media since the gaza conflict started, that article makes sense

[Buford]

“Let those who started this crazy war stop it, on our conditions.”~ Khaled Meshaal, Hamas’ leader-in-exile

Is the man insane?

[Buford]

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/19...

At the same time, Hamas is clear that it has no intention of ending its war against Israel, whose existence it doesn’t recognize and has pledged to destroy.“Gaza’s demand is not to halt a war,” said Meshaal.“Its demand is for legitimate rights.”

Yes, the man is insane.

[Frijoles]

Morales wrote:

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the situation in Syria has been almost completely ignored in the media since the gaza conflict started, that article makes sense

The point is that this conflict is multidimensional and existential. Its been fermenting for along time. Its not simply because someone got assasinated.

[Buford]

Meanwhile...

Paris Hilton takes Mecca
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/11/1...

[Frijoles]

Buford wrote:

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_ news/2012/11/19/15285702-real- cease-fire-or-just-another-tim e-out?lite
At the same time, Hamas is clear that it has no intention of ending its war against Israel, whose existence it doesn’t recognize and has pledged to destroy.“Gaza’s demand is not to halt a war,” said Meshaal.“Its demand is for legitimate rights.”
Yes, the man is insane.

Thats why I keep posing the question how can you negotiate peace with an entity that wants to destroy you?

What kept the cold war from fruition was the fact that the Soviets ultimately valued life more than death, and coexistence rather than destruction of their capatalist nemesis. They were sane.

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

Frijoles wrote:

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Thats why I keep posing the question how can you negotiate peace with an entity that wants to destroy you?
What kept the cold war from fruition was the fact that the Soviets ultimately valued life more than death, and coexistence rather than destruction of their capatalist nemesis. They were sane.

rabbee: realizing one aspect, of your being totally insane. does not insure, you are completely sane. when all sources of insanity disappear, there is but ONE True SOURCE of Sanity.

in reference to sanity, one must consider the source. even if only one person, is the sanest one on this planet. that is no guarentee, of 100% sanity according to G-D.

[Buford]

Frijoles wrote:

Thats why I keep posing the question how can you negotiate peace with an entity that wants to destroy you?
What kept the cold war from fruition was the fact that the Soviets ultimately valued life more than death, and coexistence rather than destruction of their capatalist nemesis. They were sane.

When death "in the cause of Allah and His Messenger" is most highly prized, the only trick is convincing the drones that waging a war of extermination against the "Zionist Entity," meaning the State of Israel, is entirely in keeping with "the cause of Allah and His Messenger."

It's not a hard sell. After all, Allah's Messenger, a.k.a., The Praised One, had issues with Jews...

[Buford]

I should add that BECAUSE Mohammad had issues with Jews, so did Allah.

[Frijoles]

Buford wrote:

Meanwhile...
Paris Hilton takes Mecca
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/11/1...

thats really funny

"The Mecca store is Hilton's fifth in Saudi Arabia, bringing the grand total of Paris Hilton shops to 42..".

[Mahmood]

STEFANO COLONNA wrote:

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See, when you talk with muslims about the fallacies of their religion, holy book ect., you should do it not by giving your point of view but by taking their point of views and show all the fallacy.
For example let's say I'm muslim, but I'm not, I may answer to you by say that those talmudic and rabbinical writings were written by men who were inspired by Allah. So what's the point to tell me that Quran, a book dictated by Allah have some verses taken from books from abrahamic religions that were inspired by the same god?
See, in this case the fact you find the Quran filled with verses from pre-islam books is one of the signs of its inconsistency, but for a muslim is not.
The news doesn't demolish or diminish that book, unless you find quranic verses taken from pre islam pagan sources. In any case the Quran is so full of shit that is obviously the outcome of man and not god.

A muslim will never admit to any form of plagiarizm or flaws in the Koran. To them, the book is flawless and the immutable word of the almighty. My whole point is that one cannot re-hash fiction and present it as facts - that is one of the problems I have with the Koran. The whole Islamic ritual of Hajj is pagan in origin with some minor adjustments.

Its just like taking verses out of Romeo & Juliet and inserting them into some holy book and claiming that the verses are inspired by "god".

[Buford]

rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:

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rabbee: realizing one aspect, of your being totally insane. does not insure, you are completely sane. when all sources of insanity disappear, there is but ONE True SOURCE of Sanity.
in reference to sanity, one must consider the source. even if only one person, is the sanest one on this planet. that is no guarentee, of 100% sanity according to G-D.

Sane people don't make the same stupid mistake repeatedly, WHILE EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS EACH TIME.

How many rockets has Hamas fired into Israel over the years?

ARE THE HAMASTANIANS BETTER OFF AS A RESULT?

[Buford]

The Hajj is purely of pagan origin.
http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-myths-hajj-pa...

Of course, the Hajj was RESTORED to Allah's original intentions by Mohammad.

It stands to reason.

[HughBe]

Frijoles wrote:

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I am not Hillary Clinton but I imagine it would be interest in a common defense and a promotion of democracy.

HughBe---List the criteria to be a US ally.

Frijoles---I am not Hillary Clinton but I imagine it would be interest in a common defense and a promotion of democracy.

HughBe--- Knowing that you are a male and Hillary is a female I take your words to mean that you are not as attractive, intelligent and as informed as Hillary. That is ok, it was already known.

Now, are you saying that ALL who share this "common defense" and who promote democracy are American Allies?

Specify the common defence that you have in mind.

[Eric]

HughBe wrote:

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HughBe---List the criteria to be a US ally.
Frijoles---I am not Hillary Clinton but I imagine it would be interest in a common defense and a promotion of democracy.
HughBe--- Knowing that you are a male and Hillary is a female I take your words to mean that you are not as attractive, intelligent and as informed as Hillary. That is ok, it was already known.
Now, are you saying that ALL who share this "common defense" and who promote democracy are American Allies?
Specify the common defence that you have in mind.

Socrates is back.

[HughBe]

Eric wrote:

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Socrates is back.

I, your Socrates, have high hopes for you.

enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[Eric]

HughBe wrote:

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I, your Socrates, have high hopes for you.
enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

You promised that you would ignore me.

And, you call me a liar.

[HughBe]

uhuh wrote:

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"Throughout the ages the breath of the power of God has entered into holy souls making them men of God (anashim Elohim) and prophets" (Wisdom of Solomon)
and no man of God would accept as FACT that Satan is the "Archon tou kosmos" (Ruler of this kosmos) or "Theos tou aionos" (God of this aeon)
that is unless he is in fact a man of Satan

uhuh---no man of God would accept as FACT that Satan is the "Archon tou kosmos" (Ruler of this kosmos) or "Theos tou aionos" (God of this aeon)

that is unless he is in fact a man of Satan

HughBe--- Who has misinformed you, uhuh?

Think about this, if God is the RULER of this world and there is so much MURDER, RAPE, INJUSTICE, WARS etc. then surely He is doing a very poor job.

If on the other hand Satan or the god of MURDER, DECEPTION etc. is in RULING then he is doing a good job.

[HughBe]

Eric wrote:

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You promised that you would ignore me.
And, you call me a liar.

Enjoy the video and have a good night.