Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256264 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#154801 Nov 23, 2012
Jews arrive in Palestine in large numbers:::

The Jews would push the British government into allowing a group Jews to emigrate to Palestine.

However, whenever a group of Jews arrived in Palestine, it would cause fights with the Arabs.

The British would respond by forbidding more Jews from emigrating to Palestine.

The Jews would then repeat the process. They would hold up the Balfour Declaration and beg, plead, and manipulate.

Time after time the British government officials would agree to allow another group of Jews to emigrate to Palestine, which would create fights in Palestine, and then the British would forbid Jews from emigrating to Palestine.

This cycle repeated over and over. Palestine was becoming a battlezone between Zionists and Palestinians, and the Zionist population kept rising.

The British government let themselves get pushed into a ridiculous situation.

They had signed the Balfour Declaration which gave their approval to a Jewish homeland in Palestine, but their main priority was to protect palestinians.

There was no way the British could appease both groups of people. They ended up doing what politicians in democratic nations do all the time. Namely, they occasionally appeased both groups.

The end result was that the situation became more of mess than before they got involved.

As the population of Jews in Palestine increased, the Jews became increasingly arrogant and demanding.

Some of the Jews eventually reached a point where there were no longer content to kill only the Arabs; specifically, they occasionally attacked the British, and even killed some British soldiers.

Israel had become more important than the lives of their British friends.
Morales

UK

#154802 Nov 23, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Salaams, bro.
Must be a lovely evening there. I have to go to bed. Good night
How nice would it be to see a Christian insulting Mary loudly in the Vatican compound! All will love him. lol!
He might insult Mary in the Vatican but he will not be put to death
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#154803 Nov 23, 2012
The Americans could have been the first Nazis::::

The Zionists were considered terrorists prior to 1948, by both the British and Americans.

It is interesting to consider that if the Americans had been conducting their self-righteous, anti-terrorist campaign during the early 1900's, they would have been tossing those Daisy Cutter and other adorable bombs with cute names all over Palestine in order to kill the Zionists and defend both the Palestinians and the British.

The Americans would have been killing Jews before Hitler came to power.

The Jews benefitted from Hitler more than from Moses?????
The Zionist movement changed dramatically when Hitler came to power.

The Nazis considered the Jews to be a menace to society.

When the Nazis first acquired power in 1933, they confiscated businesses from the Jews and harassed them.

The Nazis wanted the Jews to get out of Germany.

The Zionists also wanted Jews out of Europe and into Palestine to help with the creation of Israel.

With so many people wanting to get Jews out of Europe, it is not surprising that many of the Jews reacted by leaving Germany.

The flow of Jews out of Germany helped the Zionist movement because some of those Jews decided to join the Zionist cause.

Some of those Jews moved to Britain where they assisted in outsmarting the British government officials into allow Jews to move to Palestine.

Some Jews moved to America where they assisted in outsmarting the Americans government officials.

Other Jews moved to Austrialia, Canada, and other nations, where they they assisted in outsmarting those governments.

Sometime after 1940 the Nazis decided that driving the Jews into the neighboring nations was not solving the Jewish problem since many Jews were refusing to leave Germany.

The Nazis decided to put those stubborn Jews into concentration camps.

After World War Two was over the Jews would remind Chrisitan West of the concentration camps and use them to gain pity from everybody on the planet.
(many nations and many people have suffered more and even today..but their plight is nothing compared with this)

Of course, there is evidence that Zionists were creating anti-semitism in order to drive Jews to Israel.

The Zionists were willing to sacrifice thousands of innocent Jews in order to help Israel develop.

From 1945 onward, the world has become saturated with sad stories about the Holocaust.

It seems as if every Jewish author has written at least one book, play, or article about the
Holocaust.

It seems as if every Jewish moviemaker has created at least one Holocaust movie.

It is difficult to get through a single day in America without hearing at least one reference to Nazis or Holocaust victims.

Consider just a few more examples of how the Jews use Hitler:

• Saddam was described as “the Hitler of the Mideast”.

• In 1984 Nathan Perlmutter of the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, and Nat Hentoff of the Village Voice, referred to Minister Farrakhan as a "Black Hitler." http://abbc.com/islam/english/toread/farrfact...

• In May 2001 the President of Syria complained about Israel's occupation of Syria and Palestine. The next day many people in the media referred to him as a Hitler.http://www.mediamonitor s.net/khodr46.html
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#154804 Nov 23, 2012
Morales wrote:
<quoted text>
He might insult Mary in the Vatican but he will not be put to death
ofcourse not!
It is run by non-gentiles!
otherwise, they would have done what they did during the inquisitions.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#154805 Nov 23, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
The Brits, French, and Zionists try to use each other in WW1:::
Zionism got established in 1896, but not much happened with it until World War 1.
Exactly what role the Zionists played during World War 1 is a mystery. All we know for certain is that the Zionists were looking for help in creating Israel.
During wars there is a lot of lying, manipulation, spying, fake documents, and double crossing. You cannot expect historians to make sense of events during a war because the lying and deception is at extreme levels.
We know that during the war both the British and French governments gave the Zionists a document which offered support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine, although in such a vague manner that neither government was actually committing to anything.
Did the Zionists outsmart the British and French in order to get those documents?
Or did the British and French give the Zionists those documents in an attempt to use the Zionists in some manner?
Or (most likely) were all three groups trying to take advantage of one another?
Some historians believe the British government was trying to use the Zionists to bring America into the war, thereby providing Britain with some assistance.
In this scenario, Britain wanted the Zionists to encourage the American Jews to put pressure on the American government to get into in the war.
Other historians believe that some British government officials may have been thinking that it would be to Britain's advantage to have Zionists in Palestine because that would put some friends of Britain near the Suez canal.
Furthermore, some historians believe that some British officials also made promises to Arabs, while other officials made promises to France.
If this situation seems confusing, remember, this was a time of war. Individual government officials sometimes act on their own, promising things they cannot deliver, and promising things that conflict with the promises of other officials. And sometimes government officials make promises that they have no intention of keeping.
Nobody will ever know exactly what the Zionists, British, or French were thinking (most of those people are dead already), or who was involved in what, or how these three groups were trying to use, abuse, and/or double cross one another.
All we know is that in June of 1917 the French gave the Zionists a document that expressed support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine, and in November of 1917 the British government did also.
The French document was so vague that it essentially stated, "Hey, a homeland for Jews! Great idea! Good Luck!"
The British document had a bit more substance. Not surprisingly, the French document never became important to the Zionists, while the British document became referred to as the “Balfour Declaration”.
The Balfour Declaration stated that the British government would help the Jews create a homeland in PALESTINE AS LONG AS IT DID NOT BOTHER THE REAL PALESTINIANS.
Exactly how the British could accomplish such a feat was what we might refer to as “a minor detail” that the British never bothered to explain.
The British government had agreed to something that they could easily back out of on the grounds that they cannot see how they can help the Jews without annoying the Palestinians.
What this means is that the Zionists did not get anything of value from the British or the French.
Did the British or the French get anything from the Zionists? Since it appears that the Zionists helped encourage America to get into the war, it seems that the British got what they wanted. Therefore, we might say that it appears as if the British outsmarted the Zionists in this particular situation.
rabbee: boy all of your idolitry, misses all of G-D'S involvememt in this. gees! what a pagan you, are. giving all the credit, for G-D'S work to men. no wonder G-D, is angry at you pagan muslems.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#154806 Nov 23, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
Britain becomes guardian of Palestine:::
World War One changed the situation dramatically in Palestine because Turkey was a loser in that war.
British troops in 1918 drove the Turks out of Palestine.
The Palestinians then became free to have their own nation again, but they did not have a government because they had been under Turkish control for many generations.
Britain agreed to maintain some troops in Palestine and protect the area until 1948 in order to give the Palestinians have a chance to form their own government and recover from the war.
This policy became official in 1922 when the League of Nations agreed to the plan.
The British protection was scheduled to stop in 1948, at which time it was assumed the Palestinians would be capable to taking care of themselves.
The protection of Palestine by the British created a dilemma for the Zionists.
The goal of Britain was to protect Palestine from outside forces, and that meant protecting them from Zionists.
However, the Balfour Declaration would come back to haunt the British.
When Turkey had control of Palestine, that declaration was a meaningless piece of paper.
Now that Britain was guardian of Palestine, the Jews would use it to pressure the British into letting Jews emigrate to Palestine.
After the war the Jews took the Balfour Declaration to the League of Nations and convinced them to approve it also.
Then they could put even more pressure on the British government by saying that even the League of Nations agrees to the idea of a Jewish home in Palestine. The Zionists had outsmarted the British.
(MY FOREFATHERS HAVE LOTS TO ANSWER FOR...)
rabbee: there will never be enough muslems, jews, or christians against G-D. to stop even one, of G-D'S plans.

hell none of you, can even stop hasatan- more or less, baal hamolech, or halooseefer. so how can you stop, TheG-D in charge of them? your delusional fantacy thinking, certainly is not going to stop G-D.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#154807 Nov 23, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: no it means that all of you, are doing a lousy job. and this is why G-D, has unleashed the three angels hasatan, baal hamolech, and halooseefer upon the world. for G-D, is in charge of both the light and the dark. in this world, that prefers the dark side.
gilded calves are the result of worshiping the religion, and not worshiping G-D. being true to your religions, shall result in you not being true to G-D.
too proudly proclaiming, you are a jew, muslem, christian, buddist, or etc... comes with extreem dangers of idolitry. even claiming to be french, russian, brittish, american, or etc... comes with extreem dangers of national idolitry. when even following Moshe, Who is following G-D can present dangers. rather than following G-D with Moshe.
I find your post to have much merit, Rabbee. This does not mean that I agree with all of it.

You said "no it means that all of you, are doing a lousy job." and this was said in response to my assertion that the Creator is not the god of this world otherwise EVIL would not REIGN as it does now.

My logic is simple and it is this. One of the responsibilty of a RULER or manager is to CONTROL what goes on. Now, a failure to CONTROL is a failure of the RULER or manager to rule of manage.

Now, look at the MESS that the world is in with CRIMES of murder, rape and other forms of EVIL such as HATRED and DEVIL worship.

Now if God Almighty is supposedly running the show He is doing a very POOR JOB given that He hates RAPE, DECEIT, LYING etc.

Rabbee-- being true to your religions, shall result in you not being true to G-D.

HughBe--- much merit

Rabbee--too proudly proclaiming, you are a jew, muslem, christian, buddist, or etc... comes with extreem dangers of idolitry. even claiming to be french, russian, brittish, american, or etc... comes with extreem dangers of national idolitry. when even following Moshe, Who is following G-D can present dangers. rather than following G-D with Moshe

HughBe--- great deal of merit.
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#154808 Nov 23, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
Jews arrive in Palestine in large numbers:::
The Jews would push the British government into allowing a group Jews to emigrate to Palestine.
However, whenever a group of Jews arrived in Palestine, it would cause fights with the Arabs.
The British would respond by forbidding more Jews from emigrating to Palestine.
The Jews would then repeat the process. They would hold up the Balfour Declaration and beg, plead, and manipulate.
Time after time the British government officials would agree to allow another group of Jews to emigrate to Palestine, which would create fights in Palestine, and then the British would forbid Jews from emigrating to Palestine.
This cycle repeated over and over. Palestine was becoming a battlezone between Zionists and Palestinians, and the Zionist population kept rising.
The British government let themselves get pushed into a ridiculous situation.
They had signed the Balfour Declaration which gave their approval to a Jewish homeland in Palestine, but their main priority was to protect palestinians.
There was no way the British could appease both groups of people. They ended up doing what politicians in democratic nations do all the time. Namely, they occasionally appeased both groups.
The end result was that the situation became more of mess than before they got involved.
As the population of Jews in Palestine increased, the Jews became increasingly arrogant and demanding.
Some of the Jews eventually reached a point where there were no longer content to kill only the Arabs; specifically, they occasionally attacked the British, and even killed some British soldiers.
Israel had become more important than the lives of their British friends.
George,

Take your meds.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#154810 Nov 23, 2012
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>George,
Take your meds.
say what non-gentile butt-turdlicker?
Jews arrive in Palestine in large numbers:::
The Jews would push the British government into allowing a group Jews to emigrate to Palestine.
However, whenever a group of Jews arrived in Palestine, it would cause fights with the Arabs.
The British would respond by forbidding more Jews from emigrating to Palestine.
The Jews would then repeat the process. They would hold up the Balfour Declaration and beg, plead, and manipulate.
Time after time the British government officials would agree to allow another group of Jews to emigrate to Palestine, which would create fights in Palestine, and then the British would forbid Jews from emigrating to Palestine.
This cycle repeated over and over. Palestine was becoming a battlezone between Zionists and Palestinians, and the Zionist population kept rising.
The British government let themselves get pushed into a ridiculous situation.
They had signed the Balfour Declaration which gave their approval to a Jewish homeland in Palestine, but their main priority was to protect palestinians.
There was no way the British could appease both groups of people. They ended up doing what politicians in democratic nations do all the time. Namely, they occasionally appeased both groups.
The end result was that the situation became more of mess than before they got involved.
As the population of Jews in Palestine increased, the Jews became increasingly arrogant and demanding.
Some of the Jews eventually reached a point where there were no longer content to kill only the Arabs; specifically, they occasionally attacked the British, and even killed some British soldiers.
Israel had become more important than the lives of their British friends.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#154811 Nov 23, 2012
To: aka 123

Thank you brother for your post on Zionism. It would have been better if you would have posted, each page one day.

So people could study it and give their comments.

You have done an excellent job, tough.

Salaam

MUQ
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#154812 Nov 23, 2012
http://www.usislam.org/00hist.htm
History of Truth, The Truth about God and Religions, By:Dr. Adel M. Elsaie, Ph.D. Part-

9.4 Solar System in the Quran

Many references exist in the Quran about the difference in nature between stars, as generating light, and planets, as reflecting light.

Surah 25, Ayah 61 "Blessed is He Who made constellations in the skies, and placed therein a lamp, and a moon giving light."

Surah 71, Ayah 16 "And (He) made the moon a light in their midst, and made the sun as a (glorious) lamp."

The Quran makes clear a distinction between the sun and the moon. The sun is referred to in many verses as a lamp, which is a device that generates light, heat, and radiation. The Quranic choice of the word "lamp" is an incredibly accurate representation of the sun, regardless of the difference in the light producing process. The moon is referred to as an object in the sky that is lighted up, but it does not generate light by itself.
In a reference to the planets, Allah says:

Surah 24, Ayah 35 "Allah is the Light of heavens and the earth. The parable of His Light is as if there were a niche and within it a lamp. The lamp enclosed in glass: the glass as it were a brilliant star (planet)"

The actual Arabic word in the above Ayah is planet; however the English translation refers to the planet as star. The glass by itself does not shine. But when the light comes into it, it reflects the light and shines like a brilliant star. This glorious parable of the Light of Allah contains layer upon layer of transcendent truth of spiritual mysteries.

No statements can do adequate justice to its full meaning. The physical light is but a reflection of the true Light in the world of Reality and that true Light is Allah. We can only think of Allah in terms of our own phenomenal experience, and the phenomenal world; light is the purest thing we know.
Equilibrium and Orbits

The equilibrium of the universe is referred to in the following short Ayat:

Surah 55, Ayah 5-7 "The sun and the moon follow courses (exactly) computed; And the star and the trees - both (alike) bow in adoration. And the Firmament has He raised high, and He has set up the Balance (of Justice)"

In the great mathematical universe, there are great mathematical laws that require calculations. We now understand that these Ayat refer to the laws discovered by Kepler and Newton. These laws bear witness to Allah’s Wisdom and also His favors to His creatures. We all benefit from the energy and light, the seasons, and the numerous changes in the tides and the atmosphere. Quranic commentators interpret the balance in the above Ayah as one of the following:

- Balance of Justice between humans.

-The heavens themselves are sustained by Divine equilibrium.

-The sun enters the Constellation Libra (the balance) at the middle of the zodiacal year.

The divine equilibrium of the skies discovered by Newton in 1687 had not been realized in the seventh century. Yet the Creator of equilibrium revealed one of His favors to humanity.

The equilibrium of the stars and planets requires an orbital motion that each should follow. Therefore, in other Chapters in the Quran, a clear mention of the orbital motion is presented:

Surah 21, Ayah 33 "It is He Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon: All (celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course (orbit)."

Surah 36, Ayah 40 "It is not permitted to the sun to catch up the moon, nor the night outstrips the day: Each (just) swims along in (its own) orbit (according to Law)"
Chaoo-ah

Denver, CO

#154813 Nov 23, 2012
Originally the word holo-kauston meant the burnt offering in the temple. After WW2 jews got the idea those massacred by nazis died as burnt offerings for yhvh.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#154814 Nov 23, 2012
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
I find your post to have much merit, Rabbee. This does not mean that I agree with all of it.
You said "no it means that all of you, are doing a lousy job." and this was said in response to my assertion that the Creator is not the god of this world otherwise EVIL would not REIGN as it does now.
My logic is simple and it is this. One of the responsibilty of a RULER or manager is to CONTROL what goes on. Now, a failure to CONTROL is a failure of the RULER or manager to rule of manage.
Now, look at the MESS that the world is in with CRIMES of murder, rape and other forms of EVIL such as HATRED and DEVIL worship.
Now if God Almighty is supposedly running the show He is doing a very POOR JOB given that He hates RAPE, DECEIT, LYING etc.
Rabbee-- being true to your religions, shall result in you not being true to G-D.
HughBe--- much merit
Rabbee--too proudly proclaiming, you are a jew, muslem, christian, buddist, or etc... comes with extreem dangers of idolitry. even claiming to be french, russian, brittish, american, or etc... comes with extreem dangers of national idolitry. when even following Moshe, Who is following G-D can present dangers. rather than following G-D with Moshe
HughBe--- great deal of merit.
rabbee: well hasatan, baal hamolech, and halooseefer, can do nothing without G-D'S authorization. kind of think of it, as an electorial college. if you vote for your evil, then G-D sends the evil and wicked angels to represent you.

so if this whole world is ran by evil and wickeness. it is because this world voted, for it. and your just, getting you pagan direction deserves.

here in the united states, you don't even have one G-Dly or righteous representative in the legislative, executive, or judicial branch. they are all, representatives of the devil. this is why the united states is suffering.

you, have absolutly no representatives of G-D. you even are now having mass killings, like they have in the muslem countries because of this. so the rest of the world, is not in better shape either. with pestilence, plague and famine on the increase.

and if you think, hasatan is you biggest worry. then you need to rethink again. because because hates to loose, baal hamolech and halooseefer even more than hasatan.

there are three, evil and wicked angels, G-D has set loose upon this world. cause i was there when G-D, told me so. they were also there, the day G-D came to tell me about the woman. and this whole world put together, cannot even defeat the weakest of those three angels.

this whole world is in serious trouble, because this whole world is against G-D. even global warming, is not caused by the reason antiG-D scientist say. the enemies of G-D, don't want you to examine anything in TheLight. they want you to listen to their, perverted excuses. so they can maintain, their hell and death hold on earth. and this world against G-D, is just too easily duped. they do not want to know the truth, there not even interested in truth.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#154815 Nov 23, 2012
no! i do not expect, any idolitor to agree with me. do you even really think any necromancing muslem, worshiping muhammed is going to agree with me? and they who worship the dead, are the dead.

i have been in search of one true person, just about all of my life. and i have yet, to find even one. i don't worship Noach, Avraham, Yeetzak, Yaachov, Moshe, Daveed, Sholomo, or Adam(alleged as jesus) i respect and honor them. if i worship them, that would be necromancy.

i am more interested, in what G-D commanded them to do. everything this world does, is prearranged. what we say and think about it is ad-libed. and the way we talk about it, determines the prearrangement.

but there is not one religion, on earth telling the truth. and yes i am more highly dissapointed in the group, called as the jews*.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#154816 Nov 24, 2012
Morales wrote:
<quoted text>
He might insult Mary in the Vatican but he will not be put to death
It has not been done yet. We will only know when a Christian starts insulting Mary loudly and publicly in front of a large crowd.

I can safely say that the English would not mind at all, if one did that in London. If one did that in Serbia, his head would be rolling down the street.
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#154817 Nov 24, 2012
Palestinian Propaganda "Map" Exposed
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/17...
dr fill

United States

#154818 Nov 24, 2012
MUQ wrote:
To: aka 123
Thank you brother for your post on Zionism. It would have been better if you would have posted, each page one day.
So people could study it and give their comments.
You have done an excellent job, tough.
Salaam
MUQ
Ok my towel headed friend.Allah was invented by the sumerians so we wouldnt find out we were slaves created by the sumerians by tweeking their dna.We were just gold miners for them.No god,No phony bible storys just plain old labor.They thought we would be pissed if we knew we were slaves so they went with the "God" or "Allah" cover story.It worked for a long time didnt it? Well now days after we discovered ancient writings that predate the bible storys we know better.Now loosen up your turbin and relax.Nobodys your enimey. We're all in the same boat so lets make the best of it ok?

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#154819 Nov 24, 2012
MUQ wrote:
http://www.usislam.org/00hist. htm
History of Truth, The Truth about God and Religions, By:Dr. Adel M. Elsaie, Ph.D. Part-
9.4 Solar System in the Quran
Many references exist in the Quran about the difference in nature between stars, as generating light, and planets, as reflecting light.
History of Truth, huh?
MUQ wrote:
Surah 25, Ayah 61 "Blessed is He Who made constellations in the skies, and placed therein a lamp, and a moon giving light."
Surah 71, Ayah 16 "And (He) made the moon a light in their midst, and made the sun as a (glorious) lamp."
The Quran makes clear a distinction between the sun and the moon. The sun is referred to in many verses as a lamp, which is a device that generates light, heat, and radiation. The Quranic choice of the word "lamp" is an incredibly accurate representation of the sun, regardless of the difference in the light producing process. The moon is referred to as an object in the sky that is lighted up, but it does not generate light by itself.
The word lamp is a modern term, that quranic translators used freely to translate a certain arabic word with it. And not surah 71:16 does not say moon is a lighted up celestial body, this is something added once again by translators, written between parenthesis, to minimize the mistake.
MUQ wrote:
In a reference to the planets, Allah says:
Surah 24, Ayah 35 "Allah is the Light of heavens and the earth. The parable of His Light is as if there were a niche and within it a lamp. The lamp enclosed in glass: the glass as it were a brilliant star (planet)" The actual Arabic word in the above Ayah is planet; however the English translation refers to the planet as star.
So is it a planet or star? Btw you said in reference to PLANETS but I only see Earth and a brillant star (planet). Where are the references to other planets?
MUQ wrote:
Equilibrium and Orbits
The equilibrium of the universe is referred to in the following short Ayat:
Surah 55, Ayah 5-7 "The sun and the moon follow courses (exactly) computed; And the star and the trees - both (alike) bow in adoration. And the Firmament has He raised high, and He has set up the Balance (of Justice)"
Man is not a secret that moon and and sun follow course. This was visible to anyone with eyes. What yu don't know is why. You think because Allah ordered so.
MUQ wrote:
We now understand that these Ayat refer to the laws discovered by Kepler and Newton. These laws bear witness to Allah’s Wisdom and also His favors to His creatures. We all benefit from the energy and light, the seasons, and the numerous changes in the tides and the atmosphere.
It's interesting to note that Quran never mentions the motion of Earth but only of sun and moon that were evident even to people that lived 500,000 years ago.
MUQ wrote:
The divine equilibrium of the skies discovered by Newton in 1687 had not been realized in the seventh century. Yet the Creator of equilibrium revealed one of His favors to humanity.
The equilibrium of the stars and planets requires an orbital motion that each should follow. Therefore, in other Chapters in the Quran, a clear mention of the orbital motion is presented:
Newton didn't discover skies or equilibrium of skies. He knew only one sky. Quran does not talk about any orbital motion in arabic version.
MUQ wrote:
Surah 21, Ayah 33 "It is He Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon: All (celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course (orbit)."
Grammatical speaking as posed here all celestial bodies would include night and day, which is silly.
MUQ wrote:
Surah 36, Ayah 40 "It is not permitted to the sun to catch up the moon, nor the night outstrips the day
The issue here is on the word permitted, which include that someone is not allowing the sun to catch up the moon.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#154820 Nov 24, 2012
Buford wrote:
Palestinian Propaganda "Map" Exposed
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/17...
Thanks for exposing the 'propaganda map' and let all of us cut Israel back to the original size as per the second map. Your cooperation would be highly appreciated.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#154821 Nov 24, 2012
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
The issue here is on the word permitted, which include that someone is not allowing the sun to catch up the moon.
Here is 36:40 in Italian. Translate this in English to the best of your abilities:

"Non sta al sole raggiungere la luna e neppure alla notte sopravanzare il giorno. Ciascuno vaga nella sua orbita.

Which one of these translations would you be able to comprehend. You are PERMITTED to choose.

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