Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 Full story: The Brussels Journal 215,292

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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abc

Malaysia

#154336 Nov 16, 2012
bmz wrote:
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Isaiah never believed in a triune God. I AM is also not a name like YHWH or YHVH. I agree you do not worship the Almighty LORD. It is true that you worship a God that does not exist.
Then you better have a good look at tanakh which clearly indicate that YHWH is translated to I AM in certain places and LORD on others.
Isaiah 6:8 refers God as we, so definitely a Triune God.
abc

Malaysia

#154337 Nov 16, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: i think many christians want to believe it, even as it has been altered. but i do not really think, they believe it or truly understand it. i only can trust that which is written, by G-D and given to Moshe.
i do not trust their, new testament tanach or talmood. any more than any other history, written by men. i do not believe their is one person, true to G-D left on earth.
i think the few true believers, have blown out their own candle one too many times a long time ago. and even snuffed out, their own smolering wicks.
G-D is giving, the same old story of creation again. in the world that rather have, the same old crap for brains. from the counter-intelligence, from the same old devil. as all have rejected, TheTrue Intelligence from G-D here in TheTorah.
and this is the third time, this world and their grandmother. are a total embarassment to G-D and His embarassed son adam in the same story. and if not for G-D, i would still be lost in the same demonic stupidity as all of you and yo mama.
and to add insult to injury, you all helped the same old devil decieve your grandmother. and are helping the beasts, continue to decieve her even now. and have no idea, of the hell and death this is even now causing. everything you all do, with the devil against G-D, has a terrible effect in the world. no matter how good, it may be made to appear at first.
You should goes to the evolution forum, there they rubbished creation story.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#154338 Nov 16, 2012
abc wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, this is the forum to discuss who is Allah not creation. Perhaps you should start your own?
rabbee: yes i know your all-h, is not TheG-D of All Creations. and thank you for also agreeing with me, that your all-h. is not the same G-D as, TheG-D of Noach, Avraham, Yeetzak, Yaachov, Moshe, Daveed, Shlomoh, Adam and adam and chaooah. and that your independant tribal g-ds, are not TheG-D of TheWhole Story of Creation.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#154339 Nov 16, 2012
abc wrote:
<quoted text>
You should goes to the evolution forum, there they rubbished creation story.
rabbee: sorry but i have my orders, directly from G-D. and not from your g-ds, of not here in TheTorah alleged as better suggestions. and soooo sorry! if you all were not, expecting me in this second coming. and am not exactly, who you all thought in the first place.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#154340 Nov 16, 2012

http://www.usislam.org/00hist.htm
History of Truth, The Truth about God and Religions, By:Dr. Adel M. Elsaie, Ph.D. Part-

9.1 The Divine Big Bang (Contd.)

Allah again challenges the unbelievers by adding some details to the creation sequence as follows:

Surah 41, Ayah 9-12 "Say: Is it that ye deny Him Who created the earth in two days? And do ye join equals with Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds. He set on the (earth) mountains standing firm, high above it and bestowed blessings on the earth and measured therein its sustenance in four days, alike for (all) who ask. Then He turned to the sky and it had been (as) smoke. He said to it and to the earth: come ye together, willingly or unwillingly. They said: we do come together in willing obedience. So He completed them as seven firmaments in two days and He assigned to each heaven its duty and command."

The above Ayat begin by addressing the unbelievers by giving them a difficult passage, describing the primal creation of the earth and the skies around us. If we count two days for the creation of the earth, four days for stabilizing, blessing, and providing its sustenance, two days for making the seven skies, we get a total of eight days, while in all other verses of the Quran, creation is stated clearly in six days.

This is a fascinating example of verses that may have a different interpretation. Some commentators understand the four days of providing the earth with its needs to include the two days of creating the earth. This could be reasonable because the process of completing the earth forms a chain of events. In the first step it is the creation of the formless earth; in the second step it is the gradual evolution of the form of the earth, its mountains and seas, and its animal and vegetable life with a perfect balance.

In the above Surah 21, Ayah 30, the Quran states that the earth and the skies exploded together from a compressed state. In Surah 11, Ayah 9-12, the creation of the earth and its development are mentioned first; and the making of the sky into seven firmaments is mentioned last. The two statements are not inconsistent, because it is stated that when the sky was made into seven firmaments, it had existed previously as smoke: " ..
- Therefore the development of the Big Bang could have taken the following sequence:
- Explosion of a fantastically dense and fantastically hot matter.
- Planets and skies existed as smoke. The earth existed as a formless state and the sky existed as a gas. This process took two days.
- Providing the earth with mountains, seas, blessing and its sustenance took another two days. Thus completing the creation and readiness of the earth in four day.
- God ordered the earth and the sky to obey His physical laws.
- The sky was made into seven firmaments in two days.

And Allah knows the best.

Who told Muhammad that? How could anyone explain the fact that Muhammad said these words in the seventh century? It was a revelation from the Mighty Creator.

(Contd.)
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#154341 Nov 16, 2012
MUQ wrote:
http://www.usislam.org/00hist.htm
History of Truth, The Truth about God and Religions, By:Dr. Adel M. Elsaie, Ph.D. Part-
9.1 The Divine Big Bang (Contd.)
Allah again challenges the unbelievers by adding some details to the creation sequence as follows:
Surah 41, Ayah 9-12 "Say: Is it that ye deny Him Who created the earth in two days? And do ye join equals with Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds. He set on the (earth) mountains standing firm, high above it and bestowed blessings on the earth and measured therein its sustenance in four days, alike for (all) who ask. Then He turned to the sky and it had been (as) smoke. He said to it and to the earth: come ye together, willingly or unwillingly. They said: we do come together in willing obedience. So He completed them as seven firmaments in two days and He assigned to each heaven its duty and command."
The above Ayat begin by addressing the unbelievers by giving them a difficult passage, describing the primal creation of the earth and the skies around us. If we count two days for the creation of the earth, four days for stabilizing, blessing, and providing its sustenance, two days for making the seven skies, we get a total of eight days, while in all other verses of the Quran, creation is stated clearly in six days.
This is a fascinating example of verses that may have a different interpretation. Some commentators understand the four days of providing the earth with its needs to include the two days of creating the earth. This could be reasonable because the process of completing the earth forms a chain of events. In the first step it is the creation of the formless earth; in the second step it is the gradual evolution of the form of the earth, its mountains and seas, and its animal and vegetable life with a perfect balance.
In the above Surah 21, Ayah 30, the Quran states that the earth and the skies exploded together from a compressed state. In Surah 11, Ayah 9-12, the creation of the earth and its development are mentioned first; and the making of the sky into seven firmaments is mentioned last. The two statements are not inconsistent, because it is stated that when the sky was made into seven firmaments, it had existed previously as smoke: " ..
- Therefore the development of the Big Bang could have taken the following sequence:
- Explosion of a fantastically dense and fantastically hot matter.
- Planets and skies existed as smoke. The earth existed as a formless state and the sky existed as a gas. This process took two days.
- Providing the earth with mountains, seas, blessing and its sustenance took another two days. Thus completing the creation and readiness of the earth in four day.
- God ordered the earth and the sky to obey His physical laws.
- The sky was made into seven firmaments in two days.
And Allah knows the best.
Who told Muhammad that? How could anyone explain the fact that Muhammad said these words in the seventh century? It was a revelation from the Mighty Creator.
(Contd.)
rabbee: ok no automatic, green card for you.
hello people

United States

#154342 Nov 16, 2012
abc wrote:
<quoted text>
Exodus 3:14, Isaiah 42:8. So now you acknowledge, YHWH is not Allah. YHWH is translated to I AM in English bible. SO Christian do not worship Allah, we worship Triune God.
So you believe in many gods?
hello people

United States

#154343 Nov 16, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: yes i know your all-h, is not TheG-D of All Creations. and thank you for also agreeing with me, that your all-h. is not the same G-D as, TheG-D of Noach, Avraham, Yeetzak, Yaachov, Moshe, Daveed, Shlomoh, Adam and adam and chaooah. and that your independant tribal g-ds, are not TheG-D of TheWhole Story of Creation.
Allah ia the same God as abraham mossses and isaac. Yacob. Maybe you should get over believing in your gods and get over your field.beasts to see reality. And start seeing positive and good in people. Do meditation or maybe be a yogiii you will profit a lot from it.
hello people

United States

#154344 Nov 16, 2012
Buford wrote:
http://islamqa.info/en/ref/253 2
Excerpt:
"Do you know of any other religion or system in the world that has brought laws like this? This is enough, by Allaah, to prove its perfection and beauty, and the necessity of following it."
__________
No, it is enough to prove that Islam is a CONTROLLING religion that is interpreted and enforced by ABSOLUTE CONTROL FREAKS who are TERRIFIED of doing anything that might be construed as contrary to Mohammad's PERFECT example.
All religions are based on controlling peoples mind. Control freaks. Maybe you dont see it in yourself but you are extremely freaknly controlled by your religion.. its affecting your whole system.
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#154348 Nov 16, 2012
hello people wrote:
All religions are based on controlling peoples mind. Control freaks. Maybe you dont see it in yourself but you are extremely freaknly controlled by your religion.. its affecting your whole system.
Umm...what EXACTLY is my religion?
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#154349 Nov 16, 2012
MUQ wrote:
Who told Muhammad that? How could anyone explain the fact that Muhammad said these words in the seventh century? It was a revelation from the Mighty Creator.
(Contd.)
Wow!

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#154353 Nov 16, 2012
who is Allah..a pagan moon god
abc

Malaysia

#154355 Nov 16, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: yes i know your all-h, is not TheG-D of All Creations. and thank you for also agreeing with me, that your all-h. is not the same G-D as, TheG-D of Noach, Avraham, Yeetzak, Yaachov, Moshe, Daveed, Shlomoh, Adam and adam and chaooah. and that your independant tribal g-ds, are not TheG-D of TheWhole Story of Creation.
I am not a Muslim
abc

Malaysia

#154356 Nov 16, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: sorry but i have my orders, directly from G-D. and not from your g-ds, of not here in TheTorah alleged as better suggestions. and soooo sorry! if you all were not, expecting me in this second coming. and am not exactly, who you all thought in the first place.
No, you misinterpret the Torah.
abc

Malaysia

#154357 Nov 16, 2012
hello people wrote:
<quoted text>
So you believe in many gods?
NOt many but one.
abc

Malaysia

#154359 Nov 16, 2012
hello people wrote:
<quoted text>
Allah ia the same God as abraham mossses and isaac. Yacob. Maybe you should get over believing in your gods and get over your field.beasts to see reality. And start seeing positive and good in people. Do meditation or maybe be a yogiii you will profit a lot from it.
No they are not the same God.

Allah can only be understand through Arabic. Moses, Isaac and Abraham definitely cannot understand Arabic.

Abraham's God is name YHWH, Allah is the name of Muslim God.

Is so simple, YHWH is not Allah. I don't understand why so many people still get confused.
uhuh

Roubaix, France

#154360 Nov 17, 2012
Buford wrote:
Muslim bathroom etiquette http://islamqa.info/en/ref/2532

Excerpt: "Do you know of any other religion or system in the world that has brought laws like this? This is enough, by Allaah, to prove its perfection and beauty, and the necessity of following it."
interesting
yes there is another similar religious system; it's called the halacha i.e. "Jewish Law",

on entering toilet,

for man expose only 1 tefach (hand-breadth) behind and 2 tefachim in front; for woman 1 tefach behind and completely covered in front
forbidden to bring religious objects into the toilet
forbidden to talk inside the toilet or even think of Torah
forbidden to urinate standing or hold your penis if you're not married
forbidden to defecate facing east or west and wipe butt with the right hand
before going out of the toilet wash away the evil spirit (ruach ra'ah) which is sticking to the fingers with water 3 times

on coming out make supplication "Blessed is He who has formed in man holes and orifices" (Brachot 60b)

do not have sex immediately after coming out of the toilet because the evil spirit follows you around for the duration of half a mile walk (Gittin 70a)
uhuh

Jumilla, Spain

#154361 Nov 17, 2012
Buford wrote:
Muslim bathroom etiquette
http://islamqa.info/en/ref/2532

Excerpt: "Do you know of any other religion or system in the world that has brought laws like this? This is enough, by Allaah, to prove its perfection and beauty, and the necessity of following it."
interesting
yes there is another similar religious system; it's called the halacha i.e. "Jewish Law"

upon entering toilet,

for man expose only 1 tefach (hand-breadth) behind and 2 tefachim in front; for woman 1 tefach behind and completely covered in front
forbidden to bring religious objects into the toilet
forbidden to talk inside the toilet or even think of Torah
forbidden to urinate standing or hold your penis if you're not married
forbidden to defecate facing east or west and wipe butt with the right hand
before going out of the toilet wash away the evil spirit (ruach ra'ah) which is sticking to the fingers with water 3 times

on coming out make supplication "Blessed is He who has formed in man holes and orifices" (Brachot 60b)

do not have sex immediately after coming out of the toilet because the evil spirit follows you around for the duration of half a mile walk (Gittin 70a)
uhuh

Jumilla, Spain

#154362 Nov 17, 2012
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
uhuh---Satan is held in awe by Paul and "John" they called him "the god of this aeon"
HughBe-- If you are something be it a President etc. or the "ruler of this world" that is what you are. Stating a FACT does not mean that you are in awe.
"Throughout the ages the breath of the power of God has entered into holy souls making them men of God (anashim Elohim) and prophets" (Wisdom of Solomon)

and no man of God would accept as FACT that Satan is the "Archon tou kosmos" (Ruler of this kosmos) or "Theos tou aionos" (God of this aeon)

that is unless he is in fact a man of Satan
uhuh

Jumilla, Spain

#154363 Nov 17, 2012
abc wrote:
No they are not the same God. Abraham's God is name YHWH, Allah is the name of Muslim God.
It is so simple, YHWH is not Allah. I don't understand why so many people still get confused.
simple, you don't understand because you're a simpleton lol

do you know that the great rabbis of the past also wrote in Arabic and they had no qualms translating "YHWH" or "Elohim" to "Allah"? Did any Jew object to them using the name "Allah?

"And YHWH passed before him and proclaimed YHWH YHWH" (Exo 34:6)

"The meaning of this verse would be: It was a voice from Allah which passed by Moses and proclaimed 'Allah Allah', for Allah azza wajalla is not corporeal. Also notice here that the name Allah is repeated twice because taala was the one being called"
(Maimonides, Guide)

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