Who Is Allah?

[Human]

bmz wrote:

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lol! You have been misinformed, Human.
In fact, if you read the New Tseatment, you will note that Jesus is the Master Deceiver and the Master Liar of all deceivers and liars Paul, Mark, Matthew, Luke and John.
Jesus deceived and misled people so much and so well that they just did not know what to make of that man.
LMAO!
BMZ

Your the one who is misinformed after all I can qoute your own texts to prove my point you can not!
But I don't worship any book not even the bible most assuredly not the Qu'ran!

[bmz]

Human wrote:

Your the one who is misinformed after all I can qoute your own texts to prove my point you can not!

But I don't worship any book not even the bible most assuredly not the Qu'ran!

Nobody should worship any book and any man born of a woman.

Cheers
BMZ

[Human]

bmz wrote:

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Nobody should worship any book and any man born of a woman.
Cheers
BMZ

And yet islam worships the Qu'ran and Muhammad who was born of a women !

[Tiphererth]

YOu guys and gals need to wake up and realize that all these characters you obsess about serving and understanding are the agents of MEN or humans seeking to controle you and the Earth.
Cant you realize that the ONLY supposed proof that you have for Jesus or Mohamad or whoever is pages of text that have been translated over and over and added to and changed to fit someons plans?
Stop being controlled by Idols like Jesus and Mohamad.
Jesus and Mohamad were messengers of Truth(Their Real Lives)
And the Truth will set you Free.
True Peace.

[bmz]

Human wrote:

And yet islam worships the Qu'ran and Muhammad who was born of a women !

No, not at all. You have been misinformed.

Cheers
BMZ

[Sound Doctrine]

Muslims are taught by the false prophet and pagan god that lying sometimes has virtues;
Muhammad who condoned deception and lying to achieve one’s aim, as the following verses demonstrate:

The common Moslem belief is that it is allowable to tell a falsehood on four occasions:

1st, to save one's life;

2nd, to effect a peace or reconciliation;

3rd, to persuade a woman;

4th, on the occasion of a journey or expedition.

"Whoso disbelieves in God, after he has believed - excepting him who has been compelled, and in his heart is still at rest in his belief - but whosoever's heart is expanded in unbelief, upon them shall rest anger from God, and there awaits them a mighty chastisement." S. 16:106
Hence, Muhammad treated truth and deception according to his own style of situational ethics. Muhammad condoned, and actually permitted lying to further his goals.

This explains bmz, and other muslims in here and why they take so lightly their words.

after all, even their pagan god had to make it LOOK like Jesus was crucified to over 500 including Jesus' own Mother.

<But it is Allah Who deceives them.> It is Allah Who tempts them in their going over the limits and their misguidance, and DECEIVES them into reaching false perceptions regarding the purpose of this life and the trial on the Day of Judgment when their falsehood will fail. It is reported in a hadith that:‘Allah commands that a servant enter Paradise, as it may seem to people, then takes him to Fire.’" (Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Sura An-Nisa, ayat 24-147, abridged by Sheikh Muhammad Nasib Ar-Rafa'i [Al-Firdous Ltd., London 2000], pp. 207-208)

Therefore, Muslims themselves admit that their God is a deceiver.

Jesus taught against lying and said Satan is the father of lies which makes allah Satan;
Joh 8:44 "You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.

[Sound Doctrine]

Paul on Husband and Wife Relations

Paul exhorts husbands to view their wives as their own bodies:

"Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church - for we are members of his body.'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.' This is a profound mystery - but I am talking about Christ and the church. However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband. Ephesians 5:25-33

Paul also commands husbands to view their bodies as not belonging to themselves but to their wives and vice-versa, and must not deny the others' needs:

"Now for the matters you wrote about: It is good for a man not to marry. But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband. The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. The wife's body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband's body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife. Do not deprive each other except by MUTUAL consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control." 1 Corinthians 7:1-5

We challenge Muslims to produce similar verses from the Quran commanding husbands to view their wives as their own bodies, since we are confident he cannot especially in light of the following.

Muhammad on Husband and Wife Relations

Unlike Paul in the Holy Bible, Muhammad clearly classifies women as property and teaches that they are inferior to men:

"Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will; but do some good act for your souls beforehand; and fear Allah. And know that ye are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give (these) good tidings to those who believe." S. 2:223

Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas:

Ibn Umar misunderstood (the Qur'anic verse, "So come to your tilth however you will")--may Allah forgive him. The fact is that this clan of the Ansar, who were idolaters, lived in the company of the Jews who were the people of the Book. They (the Ansar) accepted their superiority over themselves in respect of knowledge, and they followed most of their actions. The people of the Book (i.e. the Jews) used to have intercourse with their women on one side alone (i.e. lying on their backs). This was the most concealing position for (the vagina of) the women. This clan of the Ansar adopted this practice from them. But this tribe of the Quraysh used to uncover their women completely, and seek pleasure with them from in front and behind and laying them on their backs.

[Sound Doctrine]

When the muhajirun (the immigrants) came to Medina, a man married a woman of the Ansar. He began to do the same kind of action with her, but she disliked it, and said to him: We were approached on one side (i.e. lying on the back); do it so, otherwise keep away from me. This matter of theirs spread widely, and it reached the Apostle of Allah

So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur'anic verse: "Your wives are a tilth to you, so come to your tilth however you will," i.e. from in front, from behind or lying on the back. But this verse meant the place of the delivery of the child, i.e. the vagina.

Instead of respecting the woman's refusal to engage in a particular sexual position, Allah sends down the command permitting men to enter women as they like!

"Women have such honorable rights as obligations, but their men have a degree above them." S. 2:228

Muslim commentator Ibn Kathir notes:

<But men have a degree over them.>, that is, men have a degree over women as far as virtue, behavior, status, obeying orders, expenditure, fulfilling duties, and grace in both worldly life and the Hereafter...(Tafsir Ibn Kathir, part 2, Sura Al-Baqarah, ayat 142-252, Abridged By Sheikh Muhammad Nasib Ar-Rifa'i [Al-Firdous Ltd., London 1998], p. 204; bold emphasis ours)

Continuing further:

"Fair in the eyes of men is the love of things they covet: WOMEN and sons; Heaped-up hoards of gold and silver; horses branded (for blood and excellence); and (wealth of) cattle and well-tilled land. Such are the POSSESSIONS of this world's life; but with Allah is the best of the goals (to return to)." S. 3:14

Again, Ibn Kathir:

Allah mentions the delights that He put in this life for people, such as women and children, and He started with women, because the test with them IS MORE TEMPTING. For instance, the Sahih recorded that the Messenger said,

<I did not leave behind me a test more tempting THAN WOMEN.>

When one enjoys women for the purpose of having children and preserving his chastity, then he is encouraged getting married, such as,

<Verily, the best members of this Ummah are those who have THE MOST WIVES> He also said,

<This life is a delight, and the best of its delight IS A RIGHTEOUS WIFE>

Mohammad actually hated women.

[Sound Doctrine]

Muhammad stated:

"The woman IS A TOY, whoever takes her let him care for her (or do not lose her)." (Ahmad Zaky Tuffaha, Al-Mar'ah wal- Islam [Dar al-Kitab al-Lubnani, Beirut, first edition, 1985], p. 180)

Umar Ibn al-Khattab once told his wife:

"You are a toy, if you are needed we will call you." (Abu Bakr Ahmad Ibn 'Abd Allah Ibn Mousa Al-Kanadi, Al-Musanaf, Vol. 1 pt. 2, p. 263- see also Al-Ghazali, Ihy'a 'Uloum ed-Din, Vol. II, Kitab Adab al-Nikah [Dar al-Kotob al-'Elmeyah, Beirut], p. 52)

The Caliph 'Amru Bin al-'Aas said:

"Women are toys, so choose." (Kanz-el-'Ummal, Vol. 21, Hadith No. 919)

Another shameful practice that Muhammad permitted was temporary marriages known as Mut’a, a practice still observed by Shiite Muslims till this day:

It is nothing but lagalized prostitution.

And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess. It is a decree of Allah for you. Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned, so that ye seek them with your wealth in honest wedlock, not debauchery. And those of whom ye seek content (by marrying them), give unto them their portions as a duty. And there is no sin for you in what ye do by mutual agreement after the duty (hath been done). Lo! Allah is ever Knower, Wise. S. 4:24 Pickthall

How convienient to call yourself a prophet of a god.

[Sound Doctrine]

Recent work on Qur'anic manuscripts found in Sana'a, Yemen, indicates that there was still considerable textual modification since the time of Uthman. These manuscripts, possibly from the early 8th century, show significant variation from the text used today. Whole sections are missing and added in with a much later hand. Passages that today read 'Say...'(a divine command to Muhammad) are seen to have once been 'he said...' or 'they said...', indicating a possible attributing of the words of humans to Allah. Over one thousand variants have been found within the first 83 surahs alone.
Turning to the Bible, is the situation any different? The earliest complete New Testament manuscripts are from the 4th century AD, with the Codex Sinaiticus in the British Library and the Codex Vaticanus in the Vatican Library. The Chester Beatty papyri from around 200AD contain major portions of the NT. The earliest complete Old Testament manuscript is the Codex Babylonicus Petropolitanus (around 1000AD), although many substantial manuscripts date much earlier, such as the Dead Sea Scrolls.
...to be skeptical of the resultant text of the New Testament books is to allow all of classical antiquity to slip into obscurity, for no documents of the ancient period are as well attested bibliographically as the New Testament.
The manuscript variants are in the vast majority the unintentional type that are to be expected with repeated copying of manuscripts by hand. They increase in number with time so that the earliest manuscripts are the most accurate and valuable. No important doctrine hangs on a variant and textual criticism has been able to determine the correct reading with confidence in virtually all cases.
The message of the Bible has been perfectly preserved. There have been many translations but they all contain the same message of salvation from Genesis to Revelation.

[Sound Doctrine]

Paul; For I would have you know, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ.(Galatians 1:11-12)

The idea that Paul invented Christianity out of some theological vacuum is completely without merit. Although Paul's Letter to the Romans is radically different from just about any other book of the Bible, the teachings found in the Book of Romans is also found in the Old Testament, the teachings of Jesus, and the teachings of the disciples. So, Paul didn't just make up doctrines to create a new religion. However, he did write the greatest theological treatise of all time in the Book of Romans. Not only are the core doctrines of Christianity found outside Paul's writings, but Paul himself taught many other theological issues that reflect the teachings of Jesus during His years of ministry. In conclusion, Paul of Tarsus did not invent Christianity, but clarified the teachings of the Bible as no other Bible author ever has. In addition to his great theological writings, Paul was Christianity's greatest evangelist.

[bmz]

Doc,

After reading the Bible, I observe that there are Five Deceivers and I name them as follows:

1. Satan

2. Jesus

3. Paul

4. Mark, Matthew, Luke and John

5. The founding fathers of the Church founded by the pagan Gentiles based on Christianity which was founded by Paul, not Jesus.

Cheers
BMZ

[Sound Doctrine]

And He was saying to them all, "If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross daily and follow Me.(Luke 9:23)
"Whoever does not carry his own cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple.(Luke 14:27)
And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, "This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood.(Luke 22:20)
For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.(1 Corinthians 1:18)
In the same way He took the cup also after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me." (1 Corinthians 11:25)
Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.(Philippians 2:8)
and might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, by it having put to death the enmity.(Ephesians 2:16)
and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven.(Colossians 1:20)
having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.(Colossians 2:14)
The next day he *saw Jesus coming to him and *said, "Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!(John 1:29)
and he looked at Jesus as He walked, and *said, "Behold, the Lamb of God!" (John 1:36)
Now the passage of Scripture which he was reading was this: "HE WAS LED AS A SHEEP TO SLAUGHTER; AND AS A LAMB BEFORE ITS SHEARER IS SILENT, SO HE DOES NOT OPEN HIS MOUTH.(Acts 8:32)
knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.(1 Peter 1:18-19)
and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.(1 Peter 2:24)
saying with a loud voice, "Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power and riches and wisdom and might and honor and glory and blessing." And every created thing which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying, "To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever." And the four living creatures kept saying, "Amen." And the elders fell down and worshiped.(Revelation 5:12-14)
I said to him, "My lord, you know." And he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.(Revelation 7:14)
"As for me, I know that my Redeemer lives, And at the last He will take His stand on the earth. Even after my skin is destroyed, Yet from my flesh I shall see God;" (Job 19:26)
"And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or farms for My name's sake, will receive many times as much, and will inherit eternal life.(Matthew 19:29)
Jesus said, "Truly I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or farms, for My sake and for the gospel's sake, but that he will receive a hundred times as much now in the present age, houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and farms, along with persecutions; and in the age to come, eternal life.(Mark 10:29-30)

[Sound Doctrine]

And He was saying to them all, "If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross daily and follow Me. "For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake, he is the one who will save it.(Luke 9:23-24)
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.(John 3:16)
"He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." (John 3:36)
but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him shall never thirst; but the water that I will give him will become in him a well of water springing up to eternal life." (John 4:14)
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.(John 5:24)
"You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me; (John 5:39)
"Do not work for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you, for on Him the Father, God, has set His seal." (John 6:27)
"For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day." (John 6:40)
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life.(John 6:47)
"He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.(John 6:54)
"This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.(John 17:3)
so that, as sin reigned in death, even so grace would reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.(Romans 5:21)
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.(Romans 6:23)

[Sound Doctrine]

Questions for Muslims;
1 Did Allah deceive them all into seeing Jesus on the cross?
2 Is The God of truth a deceiver?
3 Did Allah deceive you?
4 Mohammed was not there how can You be sure He was not deceived?
5. How did all the Jews in the world conspire together at one time without telephones and any way of direct communication , to change all those bibles all over the world?
6 Why would they change them to say that Jesus was resurrected when they deny it vehemently themselves and hate the idea.
Mother Mary was deceived by God into believeing that it was Jesus, Her beloved son?
7. Allah played a cruel joke on her?
8. Allah did not cause us to forget all these things, why not?
9. God spoke to all His prophets sending His written words to them all, why did he have to send an angel to Mohammad? Why didn't God Himself speak to Mohamamd as He did to all His other prophets.
10. Why are an angel's words more important than God's to preserve?
11. Why did none of God's prophets receive anything to agree with Mohamnmad's message?
12. Why did Gabriel treat Mohammad so cruel and not treat anyone else with such brutality?
13. Why did Allah allow the Satanic verses to be presented and not forgotten after they were abrogated as He promised?

[MUQ]

To: Sound Doc

The prophet hood of our prophet, does not need your acceptance. It is not you who will decide this.

So on second coming Jesus will take part in that big war you call Armageddon and will finish all pagans and heathens.

What would he do to the Jews and Pauline Christians who have gone away from his teachings?

Or do you say Jews would repent and will not try to do to Jesus what they tried the first time?

What gives you this hope?

From the Jews literature and propaganda against Jesus, I don’t think that they are ready for that.

Then the prophet foretold by Moses in Deut 18-18 can not be Jesus, because Jesus and Moses are not similar prophets.

Moses was a prophet and Jesus is a God.

Moses did not die for any one’s sins and Jesus died for the sins of Mankind.

Moses is dead and buried on this earth and Jesus is alive and in heavens.

How could Jesus be like Moses?

What about you consulting that “Sound Doctor” to cure you of your hallucination.

[HughBe]

MUQ wrote:

To: Sound Doc
The prophet hood of our prophet, does not need your acceptance. It is not you who will decide this.
So on second coming Jesus will take part in that big war you call Armageddon and will finish all pagans and heathens.
What would he do to the Jews and Pauline Christians who have gone away from his teachings?
Or do you say Jews would repent and will not try to do to Jesus what they tried the first time?
What gives you this hope?
From the Jews literature and propaganda against Jesus, I don’t think that they are ready for that.
Then the prophet foretold by Moses in Deut 18-18 can not be Jesus, because Jesus and Moses are not similar prophets.
Moses was a prophet and Jesus is a God.
Moses did not die for any one’s sins and Jesus died for the sins of Mankind.
Moses is dead and buried on this earth and Jesus is alive and in heavens.
How could Jesus be like Moses?
What about you consulting that “Sound Doctor” to cure you of your hallucination.

“Then the prophet foretold by Moses in Deut 18-18 can not be Jesus, because Jesus and Moses are not similar prophets.”

Understand that there is a big difference between being “similar” and IDENTICAL.

”Moses was a prophet and Jesus is a God.”“Moses was a prophet” is correct.“Jesus is a God” also correct but He was also a prophet.

”Moses did not die for any one’s sins and Jesus died for the sins of Mankind.” Both delivered people. Moses delivered from physical slavery while Jesus delivers from the spiritual slavery or from the bondage of sin.

”Moses is dead and buried on this earth and Jesus is alive and in heavens.” Both Moses and Jesus fell asleep. However, Jesus awoke before him. It does not mean that Moses will not also arise from his sleep, but not yet.

[Sound Doctrine]

MUQ wrote:

To: Sound Doc
Moses was a prophet and Jesus is a God.
Moses did not die for any one’s sins and Jesus died for the sins of Mankind.
Moses is dead and buried on this earth and Jesus is alive and in heavens.
How could Jesus be like Moses?

So you agree that Jesus died for your sins?

Typical Muslim comparing fleshly attributes of the men Moses with Mohammad, which would fit with many men, But in the Bible we are told to compare spirituals with spirituals.
Muslims argue that this prophecy could only have been fulfilled by Muhammad, who, like Moses, was a lawgiver, a prophet, and a military leader. Further, the Prophet was to come from the brethren of the Israelites, which must be a reference to the Ishmaelites (Muhammad’s ancestors) for Ishmael was the brother of Isaac, the father of Israel . These facts, along with other similarities between Muhammad and Moses, support the identification of “the Prophet” with Muhammad.
If we were to take Deuteronomy 18:15 by itself, completely ignoring the rest of the book, we might agree with the Muslim apologists. However, even a cursory examination of the context of this prophecy demonstrates the flaws in the Islamic position.
First, the passage says that God will raise up a prophet like Moses, because the Israelites didn’t want to speak directly with God. The Israelites said,“Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God ... that I die not,” and God replied,“They have well spoken that which they have spoken.” Hence, when verse 18:15 is taken in context, we see that the Jews were asking for an intercessor, someone to stand between them and God just as Moses did. While Muhammad could certainly be viewed as an intercessor, the passage seems to fit more comfortably if the Prophet is Jesus. Muhammad was an intercessor between Gabriel and man, whereas Jesus was an intercessor directly between God and man:“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.”[10]
Next, Moses says that God will raise up a prophet “from the midst of thee.” He is talking to Israelites, so it sounds as if God is telling them that he will raise up a prophet from the midst of Israel . In any case, Muhammad surely wasn’t raised up from the midst of Jews. Jesus, on the other hand, was born and raised in Israel , and so the context again fits more comfortably if Moses is referring to Jesus.
Third, although Muslims often claim that the term “brethren” must refer to the Ishmaelites, the Book of Deuteronomy shows that this claim is completely false. To be sure,“brethren” can be used to refer to people other than the Jews, and it is used in this manner with the Edomites earlier in Deuteronomy.[11] However, the term “brethren” is most commonly used when referring to other Israelites:

[Sound Doctrine]

A prophet like Moses; Number ONE, Jesus said He is THAT prophet;
Joh 5:46 "For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me.

If there be among you a poor man of one of thy brethren within any of thy gates in thy land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not harden thy heart, nor shut thine hand from thy poor brother.[12]
That this verse refers to fellow Israelites is clear from the verses that follow, for Moses tells his listeners not to ignore the brother just because the year for canceling debts is near (the year of debt-cancellation was meant for fellow Israelites).
“Brethren” is also used regarding the selection of a king:
When thou art come unto the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, and shalt possess it, and shalt dwell therein, and shalt say, I will set a king over me, like as all the nations that are about me; thou shalt in any wise set him king over thee, whom the LORD thy God shall choose: one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee: thou mayest not set a stranger over thee, which is not thy brother.[13]
The Jews obviously weren’t being commanded to seek an Arab king here. Rather, they were commanded to get a king “from among thy brethren,” meaning a fellow Jew. The term “brethren” is even used as a reference to other Israelites in Deuteronomy 18, the same chapter from which the prophecy is taken:
The priests the Levites, and all the tribe of Levi, shall have no part nor inheritance with Israel : They shall eat the offerings of the LORD made by fire, and his inheritance. Therefore shall they have no inheritance among their brethren: the LORD is their inheritance, as he hath said unto them.[14]
The Levites were to have no inheritance among their brethren of the other tribes of Israel . This is how chapter 18 begins, and we’re never given so much as a hint that the meaning of “brethren” has changed so that, by verse 15, it refers to Ishmaelites. Given this repeated use of “brethren” to refer to Israelites, it is disturbing to read Muslim polemics arguing that “Ishmaelites” is the only possible interpretation of “brethren”:
The children of Isaac are the brethren of the Ishmaelites. In like manner Muhammed is from among the brethren of the Israelites because he was a descendent of Ishmael the son of Abraham. This is exactly as the prophecy has it—“FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN”.(Deut. 18:18). There the prophecy distinctly mentions that the coming prophet who would be like Moses, must arise NOT from the “children of Israel ” or from “among themselves”, but from among their brethren. MUHAMMAD THEREFORE WAS FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN![15]
Contrary to what Deedat suggests, Moses’ prophecy doesn’t say that the prophet must not come from the children of Israel . Indeed, given the repeated use of “brethren” to refer to Israelites in Deuteronomy, as well as in chapter 18, it is a wonder that anyone would interpret it otherwise. Deedat is therefore either completely ignorant of how “brethren” is used in Deuteronomy, or deliberately deceptive towards his Muslim readers.

[Sound Doctrine]

Muslims are constantly proving our assertion that they do not bother pondering over biblical texts carefully. This is even more so in the case of John 1:19-25. After all, if the Muslims had taken the time to carefully analyze this specific passage they would have avoided raising the following problems which we are about to mention. But first, note what the reference says:

"And this is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him,‘Who are you?’ He confessed, and did not deny, but confessed,‘I am not the Christ.’ And they asked him,‘What then? Are you Elijah?’ He said,‘I am not.’‘Are you the Prophet?’ And he answered,‘No.’ So they said to him,‘Who are you? We need to give an answer to those who sent us. What do you say about yourself?’ He said,‘I am the voice of one crying out in the wilderness, "Make straight the way of the Lord," as the prophet Isaiah said.’(Now they had been sent from the Pharisees.) They asked him,‘Then why are you baptizing, if you are neither the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?’" John 1:19-25

A careful look at the foregoing demonstrates that Muslims are basing their case on the (mis)understanding of the Jews that three figures were expected to come, and that Christ and the Prophet were two distinct individuals. Unfortunately for them, the Muslims haven’t bothered to stop to think that if the Jews were correct then Muhammad couldn’t be that Prophet like Moses. The reason for this is very simple: if the Prophet was to be an Ishmaelite, or a non-Israelite, then why in the world did these Jews ask a fellow Israelite, John, if he were that Prophet to come? Why did they ask John, an Israelite, if he were that Prophet if the Prophet was to be a non-Israelite, a Gentile?

Hence, if the Muslims believe that the Jews were correct that the Prophet was a distinct figure from the Christ then they must also accept that they were correct in believing that the Prophet would be an Israelite. But if the Muslims concede that the Jews may have been incorrect regarding the nationality of that Prophet, then they must likewise concede the possibility that they may have been wrong for assuming that the Prophet and Christ were two different figures.