Is the Biblical Exodus a Myth?

Is the Biblical Exodus a Myth?

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#21 Apr 18, 2012
Zog Known as Vinz Clortho wrote:
Hey, "umm", I wrote a response to "Hmmm" clearly a different poster. I congratulate you on speaking 4 languages.
And to the deluded "Ayreshire": Ayreshire is one of my favorite breeds of cattle and it pains me that one as ignorant and superstitious as you should take "Ayreshire" as your nom de poste. I know cows who are smarter than you.
And to John Chong: I judge you because I am demonstrably better than you. Your thinking is fuzzy, your prose style is rudimentary at best, your thoughts banal. Your beliefs are barbaric. Someone has to call you on this or you will persist in folly to the end of your lie.
The superior man exceeds in his actions, not his words.
Yah Bless :)
Peace!
badsis

Cincinnati, OH

#22 May 21, 2012
Yes it is. There is no record of any Jews being taken from Israel and made Egyptian slaves. There is no record of Ramses ever having Jewish slaves. There is no record of any Jew being adopted by any Egyptian Pharaoh at any time. The story of Moses existed long before the Bible or even the Tanakh was written in other cultures.

““You must not lose faith ”

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#23 May 21, 2012
Egypt starts at the front-door.
A bit of war going on and you find yourself in hittite territory.
Badsis you are going to simple about it.
Apart from finding the proper timeline of events.
The city of Ramses was moved when the water-channel dried out, during ~1000 BC when priest had taken over the pharonic rule.
If people stay fixated on just one century nothing will be found, while the surrounding centuries show ample population-movement.

The problem lies with the hebrew book being condensed history of the Kahanite (ugarit adapted spelling)region and above all of two tribes -or rather 12- that all got condensed into one territory and under one strenous rule.
mexitalian

London, UK

#24 May 22, 2012
badsis wrote:
Yes it is. There is no record of any Jews being taken from Israel and made Egyptian slaves. There is no record of Ramses ever having Jewish slaves. There is no record of any Jew being adopted by any Egyptian Pharaoh at any time. The story of Moses existed long before the Bible or even the Tanakh was written in other cultures.
correction: there is proof that the jews were slaves in egypt and even the exodus.

Cant remember the pharoah's name, but in his tomb there are actual descriptions of jewish slaves and them leaving.

READ
In the southeast of the Delta lay the Land of Onias, an autonomous enclave of Jews descended from the High Priest Onias and his followers, who had been exiled from Judea for refusing to prostrate themselves flat on the ground before the King of Syria; that, Onias had said, they did only to their God. King Ptolemy VI Philometor gave the Onians a large tract of land as their own in return for an annual tribute and soldiers for the Egyptian army. The news of Cleopatra's generosity had spread to the Land of Onias, which declared for her in this civil war and made it possible for Mithridates of Pergamum to occupy Pelusium without a struggle; Pelusium was full of Jews and had strong ties to the Land of Onias, which was vital to all Egyptian Jews because it held the Great Temple. This was a smaller replica of King Solomon's temple, even to a tower eighty feet tall and artificial gulches to simulate the Vales of Kedron and Gehenna.
Mbabata iFlashi

United States

#25 Jun 1, 2012
The biblicali is too much a truthe. i hav expreince it as to meselfes. yes it is a livie for my. thank ama jesusie for giv to my own yes hope ama hopfullie. i.am afrikan truthe and a proude of me jesus yes. all atheiest is wichies and will have deadie on his suouls. i hav spoked to angeils as profeet. end is come now. jesus is arivail. all bow as him for safioure.

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#26 Jun 1, 2012
http://www.ancientsudan.org/history.htm
Interesting similarities. palestine conquest.
Vivek Golikeri

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#30 May 19, 2013
badsis wrote:
Yes it is. There is no record of any Jews being taken from Israel and made Egyptian slaves. There is no record of Ramses ever having Jewish slaves. There is no record of any Jew being adopted by any Egyptian Pharaoh at any time. The story of Moses existed long before the Bible or even the Tanakh was written in other cultures.
The Exodus may be a myth, or may be real history willfully ignored by Egyptian chroniclers because it was too embarrassing to pharaonic power. But then the same arguments can be used regarding the lost years of Jesus as a teenager in India. Assuming he really went there, why is the evidence in both east and west so scant?

Same reasons! Teenaged Jesus started a caste war in India by preaching racial equality, condemning the caste system, and teaching the Vedas to the outcastes. Had his radical ideas been kept in the New Testament, the slaves or serfs would have risen in revolution and created a democracy.
Max

Québec, Canada

#31 May 20, 2013
The bible is a collection of little books of humans trying to figure out why they existed ; some Jews got them all in one and started writing their own little books in it, stating that a certain "Jesus" that would come from the Jew houses would inherit the world because he was the son of God and thus rule people via religion.

Then some smart carpenter turned the Jew world domination agenda upon them by passing himself for Jesus and now the whole world now knows what Jews really are and Jews hates him for it.
AIPAC hates USA

Tampa, FL

#33 Jun 5, 2013
USS LIBERTY wrote:
<quoted text>.........CNN and the zionitz Likud media target righteous chews like ANAT KAMM who oppose the Sayanim War Mongirs and JIM CROW JUDECIARY ......... The masada myth and the exodus myth are part of the pretense that the KAHANE aggressors are ''victims''........ see OVERCOMING THE LIKUD DALSIMER GESTAPPO by David Brog and Lindsey Graham .
..........Charlie ''stasiland'' Wells , Gene ''bankster'' Moss , lois Lerner , doug Shulman and justin ryan Green have scammed the FUSION CENTER and Infragard budgets for their Likud puppet masters at the JDL .......668 PCK , LXE 904 , BAL Y35, GOAMG , 617 TIH , 243 PIE , 244 PIE , ICA 522.,,,see BY WAY OF DECEPTION and FIVE BROKEN CAMERAS.

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#34 Jun 5, 2013
Zog known as Mallethead wrote:
Let us discuss a broader, not unrelated topic: Is the Bible itself a myth? Answer: Incontrovertibly. It is a melange of Bronze Age ravings by individuals who would be locked up today. It is one tribe's creation myth. Look at the bizarros who believe in it. The New Testament represents a well hammered-out narrative shaped over the centuries by zealots, princes, and powerful prelates who made sure that history and hearsay that offended their line was left out and deemed heretical. Let's not waste a moment more on hearing or hearing from "God." And studly cool though he may have been, let's not revere Jesus as "the Son of God" (more lunatic ideation). It's time to put Judaism and Christianity (and certainly the very batty Islam) back in the botanica where they belong, next to the Lucky Indian Brand House Spray. There's real world out there that's dying from war and climate change and you can count on religion to help out as much as you can a Justin Beiber bobble-head doll. Amen, right?
If the Biblical Exodus is a Myth, How do you explain over 40,000 Egyptian Chariots under the floor bed of the red sea/sea of reeds that predates the same time line all the same model? If Jesus is a myth how do you explain the death records in Rome with name Yusha.(real name of Jesus) He fits the same description as Jesus and how he died and every thing.

Can you please explain this?


If the bible is such a myth, why are things being taken out? Why is is always the only so called religion being attacked?
yehoshooah adam

San Jose, CA

#35 Jun 7, 2013
well you can either accept, G-D'S infallible History Lessons in TheTorah. or you can accept the hisstory lessons, from fallible vain subtle critters of the fields.

and since alleged as men, write history to make themselves look good as the last victor. i think i prefer to choose G-D'S, that does not make any of us look as good as we only pretend to be.

even the fact that none of you, are here in TheTorah Happening still today. does not make any of you critters, following the subtle critters of the fields look good.

and the whole insane world has always rejected being, here in TheTorah from HaShem G-D. so they must all, be totally vainly wrong about this too.
Vivek Golikeri

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#36 Jun 7, 2013
mexitalian wrote:
<quoted text>
correction: there is proof that the jews were slaves in egypt and even the exodus.
Cant remember the pharoah's name, but in his tomb there are actual descriptions of jewish slaves and them leaving.
READ
In the southeast of the Delta lay the Land of Onias, an autonomous enclave of Jews descended from the High Priest Onias and his followers, who had been exiled from Judea for refusing to prostrate themselves flat on the ground before the King of Syria; that, Onias had said, they did only to their God. King Ptolemy VI Philometor gave the Onians a large tract of land as their own in return for an annual tribute and soldiers for the Egyptian army. The news of Cleopatra's generosity had spread to the Land of Onias, which declared for her in this civil war and made it possible for Mithridates of Pergamum to occupy Pelusium without a struggle; Pelusium was full of Jews and had strong ties to the Land of Onias, which was vital to all Egyptian Jews because it held the Great Temple. This was a smaller replica of King Solomon's temple, even to a tower eighty feet tall and artificial gulches to simulate the Vales of Kedron and Gehenna.
Yes, but these Jews were much, much later than Moses' day is supposed to be. Ptolemy? That automatically means after Alexander the Great. Alexander of Macedon was 700 years after King David and King Solomon, whereas the Exodus is supposed to have occured something like four centuries BEFORE David and Solomon.

Your posted evidence, while likely all true in itself, means nothing toward the veracity of the Exodus. This is exactly like quoting things that General Eisenhauer did to prove what General Washington is claimed to have done.
vusandile

Johannesburg, South Africa

#37 Jun 9, 2013
crocoduck wrote:
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Do I have any proof that it's not what? A massive exaggeration?
Proof is for math equations and liquor. Outside of that all you have is evidence for or against.
There is plenty of evidence that the global flood didn't happen (let alone that it's obviously a fairy tale). There are societies and possibly even LIVING organisms surviving today that must have lived right through it. That's just a basic starting point...there are literally hundreds if not thousands of reasons why it didn't or couldn't happen. On the other hand there is also a complete lack of evidence that it DID happen...as if we needed that.
As for the "Exodus". Outside of the obvious conclusion that Moses (if there was a man named Moses) could not and did not part a sea...we have a much different story uncovering with modern archeology. It tells a much different story than a mass exodus of 2 million or some odd people (600K men and 600K women plus chidrens) not counting livestock. I mean Egypt had an estimated population count of roughly 3M at the time. Are we to believe the slaves outnumbered their opressors 2-1? Maybe they were too dumb to live on their own. LOL! Once again there is also a complete lack of evidence (outside the bible) that it did happen.
"Are we to believe the slaves outnumbere their opressors 2-1?" Just to remind you that arpatheid in South Africa was ruled by about +-11% against the whole country's population. Similar to what happened in Egypt.

Since: Nov 12

NYC

#38 Jun 10, 2013
Zog known as Mallethead wrote:
Is the Bible itself a myth? Amen, right?
Everything in history could be claimed to be a myth. How do you know Plato, Socrates, Hannibal, Julius Caesar, Caligula, Napoleon, Nero, Nefertiti, Shakespeare really existed?
Just because history books say so doesnt make it true.
yehoshooah adam

San Jose, CA

#39 Jun 10, 2013
vusandile wrote:
<quoted text> "Are we to believe the slaves outnumbere their opressors 2-1?" Just to remind you that arpatheid in South Africa was ruled by about +-11% against the whole country's population. Similar to what happened in Egypt.
rabbee: whether you be enslaved or oppressor, you shall do as G-D commands here in TheTorah in TheHappening.
yehoshooah adam

San Jose, CA

#40 Jun 10, 2013
Gomar wrote:
<quoted text>
Everything in history could be claimed to be a myth. How do you know Plato, Socrates, Hannibal, Julius Caesar, Caligula, Napoleon, Nero, Nefertiti, Shakespeare really existed?
Just because history books say so doesnt make it true.
rabbee: i believe they existed, but not in the way history without G-D records it. even the ghost writer for shakesphere.

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#41 Jun 10, 2013
Gomar wrote:
<quoted text>
Everything in history could be claimed to be a myth. How do you know Plato, Socrates, Hannibal, Julius Caesar, Caligula, Napoleon, Nero, Nefertiti, Shakespeare really existed?
Just because history books say so doesnt make it true.
There's more to these people then Just the History books, That's who we know they were real. First of all King Tut was married to one of Nefertiti's daughters. Shakespeare is believed to be a secret child of queen Elizabeth the 1st. Napoleon shot thee nose of thee sphinx and destroyed parts of Egypt trying to fine white origin.
Gerhard Ebersoehn

South Africa

#42 Jun 11, 2013
crocoduck wrote:
I think the "Exodus" is about as real as Noah's flood. A massive exaggeration of SOME real event...or previous legend from other/earlier cultures. The idea that modern day people in the industrialized world believe either story is a literal description of an actual event is astonishing...and sad...and kind of humorous too:)
That's the sure mark of their true identity, you will ALWAYS, find atheists and alikes with that better-knowing >kind of humorous< smirk on their face, INVARIABLY.
Gerhard Ebersoehn

South Africa

#44 Jun 11, 2013
‘Atheist’ Holly Ordway

"At thirty-one years old, I was an atheist college professor-and I delighted in thinking of myself that way. I got a kick out of being an unbeliever; it was fun to consider myself superior to the unenlightened, superstitious masses, and to make snide comments about Christians ... I thought the Bible was a collection of folktales and myths, just like the stories I'd read of Zeus and Thor, Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty. Why should I bother to read the Bible, much less take seriously what it said about this Jesus?... And since I didn't believe that I had an immortal soul, I wasn't in the least interested in its purported destination after I died. No God, no afterlife, no hell ... no reason to discuss the matter further" (p 16).
"I thought faith was by definition irrational, that it mean believing some assertion to be true for no reason. It never had occurred to me that there could be a path to faith through reason, that there were arguments for the existence of God, and evidence for the claims of Christianity. I thought you had to 'just have faith'-and the very idea of faith baffled and horrified me" (p 16-17).

"Yet I was troubled by what I knew of myself ... My atheism was eating into my heart like acid ... However satisfied I declared myself intellectually, however impregnable this intellectual fortress of atheism seemed to me, it was a terrible place to live. Its foundations were not on solid rock as I thought, but on shifting sand ..." (p 27).

"I had been a very assertive atheist, and I had mocked Christianity. And here I was, about to consider whether everything I had ever believed was utterly wrong. Somehow, by the grace of God whom I didn't yet recognize, I was in a place where my intellectual pride was set aside just enough for me to say: I want to know the truth, whether or not I like it ..." (p 59).
True Christian witness

Slick, OK

#45 Jun 12, 2013
The basic fact that truth is proved true, is not the case with God's word the Bible. The Bible is God's inspired will expressed by the holy prophets and writers God chose to direct his people or his spiritual children. If you don't believe in creation by Almighty God Jehovah or care what God wants you to do, you will not have faith, and you will not believe or benefit from his word. Hebrews 11:1

Miracles and recorded prophetic history of God's ancient people and early Christians are recorded facts, accepted and believed as truth only by men of faith. Faith is the one essential factor in worship to God, it is faith in Jesus and faith that every word in the Bible is truth. John 17:17

God's word is the only truth a man of God would need or use to know, love and serve the one true God Jehovah, as Jesus did and showed all mankind the way. You cannot be in this world ruled by Satan the Devil, and know and serve Jehovah God as Jesus set the pattern for us to follow. 1Peter 2:21
2Timothy 3:16,17

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