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Tonga's Nukuleka, the birth place of Polynesia

There are 1979 comments on the Matangi Tonga story from Jan 7, 2008, titled Tonga's Nukuleka, the birth place of Polynesia. In it, Matangi Tonga reports that:

“The designs are also very similar to tattoo designs.”

Nuku'alofa , Tonga: By Pesi Fonua NUKULEKA, a small fishing village on the northern shores of eastern Tongatapu, at the entrance to the Fanga'uta Lagoon, has been identified by a Canadian archaeologist, ... via Matangi Tonga

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stopit

Brookvale, Australia

#2065 Aug 4, 2013
Tamasamoa wrote:
Na Tongans are samoan sperm, all hail the real king of the pacific TUI MANU'A!! Hahaa cheehoooo!
hahaha you don't even know who tuimanua is lol samoa ain't never had a single ruler till Tongans arrived cheehoooo Tonga is ya daddy...otherwise ya'll be short chinky eyed dwarfs hihihihi TU'ITONGA is the word....so word!!! Tuimanua was spying for Tu'itonga,when Tu'itonga came to samoa...tuimanua ran to manua and fufu all day pretendin he wasn't aware that Tu'itonga is invading western samoa....hihihi tuimanua was no king,just a gay chief from manua hihihi who said he had an empire? Western samoa don't know him hihihi hahaha
Kaiwai

Suva, Fiji

#2066 Dec 8, 2013
I am interested to trace some of our Tongan noble ancestors who were related to the Tui Moturiki in Fiji - Vuniivilevu Island/Moturiki.

Since I am one of them and I would like to know these old ties.

First Fijian

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#2068 Dec 18, 2014
To make this history short,all human beings on this planet are pre-Fijians which have Biblical verses to prove it..Isaiah 51:3,2 Peter 3:5-7,Psalms 50:1 nd Genesis 2:8..i.e their remnants which were left behind around their original place(sunken Vuniivilevu landmass).And they are melanesians nd polynesians.Thats why Fiji is known as the melting pot of the South Pacific,bcos they ve got a mixture of melans nd polys in their dna,nd they used polynesian culture nd traditions.

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#2069 Dec 18, 2014
First Fijian wrote:
To make this history short,all human beings on this planet are pre-Fijians which have Biblical verses to prove it..Isaiah 51:3,2 Peter 3:5-7,Psalms 50:1 nd Genesis 2:8..i.e their remnants which were left behind around their original place(sunken Vuniivilevu landmass).And they are melanesians nd polynesians.Thats why Fiji is known as the melting pot of the South Pacific,bcos they ve got a mixture of melans nd polys in their dna,nd they used polynesian culture nd traditions.
Well MELEKALIKIMAKA billy, did uno that this thread is almost 7 years old, well let's UPDATED, since Nov. 2012 science has proven that NUKULEKA, TONGATAPU is t first settlement in Polynesia. Oh yeah u r right Vitis, r both Mela n Poly, but mostly Poly.

http://www.livescience.com/24614-first-polyne...

First Polynesians Arrived in Tonga 2,800 Years Ago

The first Polynesian settlers sailed to Tonga between 2,830 and 2,846 years ago, according to new research.

The findings, published Nov. 7 in the journal PLoS One, relied on ultraprecise dating of coral tools found at Tonga's first settlement.

"The technique provides us with unbelievable precision in dating quite ancient materials," said David Burley, a co-author of the study and an archaeologist at Simon Fraser University in Vancouver. "This stuff is almost 3,000 years old, and the date range is within 16 years."

The new techniques could be used to trace the migration of Polynesia's prehistoric seafarers as they colonized the archipelagos of the Pacific Ocean, he said.

The Lapita people, the ancestors of modern-day Pacific Islanders, first sailed from coastal New Guinea roughly 5,000 years ago, reaching the Solomon Islands around 3,100 years ago and gradually expanding farther east toward what is now the archipelago Tonga, Burley told LiveScience.

Across a string of Pacific islands, the Lapita left traces of their culture: primitive nail files broken from staghorn coral reefs. The ancient inhabitants of Oceania likely used these coral files to smooth the surfaces of wooden objects or shell bracelets, Burley said.

Archaeologists determine when the Lapita migrated to an island by estimating the age of the earliest coral files there. Historically, they dated the coral files using radioactive carbon isotopes (atoms of the same element with different weights). But precise numbers were elusive, because carbon dating can be off by a few hundred years.[The 9 Craziest Ocean Voyages]

To see if they could do better, Burley and his team analyzed 16 coral files found buried in the sand under the site of Polynesia's oldest known settlement, a small village called Nukuleka on the Tongan island of Tongatapu.

But instead of using radioactive carbon, the team used radioactive uranium and developed a method to date the ancient coral fragments with incredible precision.

The researchers pinpointed the date of first landfall at Tonga to within eight years of 826 B.C.

Because the Lapita scattered such coral files at many sites, the new technique could be used to retrace the steps of the ancient seafarers throughout Oceania with astonishing accuracy, Burley said.

"We can look at this progression across the Pacific in ways we couldn't before," he said.
NiggyMikeQuincy

Honolulu, HI

#2070 Dec 19, 2014
tongangodz wrote:
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Well MELEKALIKIMAKA billy, did uno that this thread is almost 7 years old, well let's UPDATED, since Nov. 2012 science has proven that NUKULEKA, TONGATAPU is t first settlement in Polynesia. Oh yeah u r right Vitis, r both Mela n Poly, but mostly Poly.
http://www.livescience.com/24614-first-polyne...
First Polynesians Arrived in Tonga 2,800 Years Ago
The first Polynesian settlers sailed to Tonga between 2,830 and 2,846 years ago, according to new research.
The findings, published Nov. 7 in the journal PLoS One, relied on ultraprecise dating of coral tools found at Tonga's first settlement.
"The technique provides us with unbelievable precision in dating quite ancient materials," said David Burley, a co-author of the study and an archaeologist at Simon Fraser University in Vancouver. "This stuff is almost 3,000 years old, and the date range is within 16 years."
The new techniques could be used to trace the migration of Polynesia's prehistoric seafarers as they colonized the archipelagos of the Pacific Ocean, he said.
The Lapita people, the ancestors of modern-day Pacific Islanders, first sailed from coastal New Guinea roughly 5,000 years ago, reaching the Solomon Islands around 3,100 years ago and gradually expanding farther east toward what is now the archipelago Tonga, Burley told LiveScience.
Across a string of Pacific islands, the Lapita left traces of their culture: primitive nail files broken from staghorn coral reefs. The ancient inhabitants of Oceania likely used these coral files to smooth the surfaces of wooden objects or shell bracelets, Burley said.
Archaeologists determine when the Lapita migrated to an island by estimating the age of the earliest coral files there. Historically, they dated the coral files using radioactive carbon isotopes (atoms of the same element with different weights). But precise numbers were elusive, because carbon dating can be off by a few hundred years.[The 9 Craziest Ocean Voyages]
To see if they could do better, Burley and his team analyzed 16 coral files found buried in the sand under the site of Polynesia's oldest known settlement, a small village called Nukuleka on the Tongan island of Tongatapu.
But instead of using radioactive carbon, the team used radioactive uranium and developed a method to date the ancient coral fragments with incredible precision.
The researchers pinpointed the date of first landfall at Tonga to within eight years of 826 B.C.
Because the Lapita scattered such coral files at many sites, the new technique could be used to retrace the steps of the ancient seafarers throughout Oceania with astonishing accuracy, Burley said.
"We can look at this progression across the Pacific in ways we couldn't before," he said.
Yeah but why some tongans look like monky's and some look like Poly's....I think Tonga was the melting pot of both polynesians and melanesians....Fiji is just Poly influenced...

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#2071 Dec 19, 2014
NiggyMikeQuincy wrote:
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Yeah but why some tongans look like monky's and some look like Poly's....I think Tonga was the melting pot of both polynesians and melanesians....Fiji is just Poly influenced...
Wassup Miggy,

Good question, well besides being t progenitors of Polynesia t Tongans managed through t strength of it's naval force to a mass a maritime empire known as t Tu'i Tonga Empire which was t only one of it's kind in t Pacific n in preEuro times n as for t monkeys we dropped off in Vaihi'i now known as Hawai'i n t we took some to help row t boats back to home ..lololol... True talk :))). Enjoy t read.

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/t...

Tiny Tonga Once Lorded Over 1,000-Mile Pacific Ocean Empire

The seafaring empire of Tonga in the South Pacific Ocean once spanned more than a thousand miles, serving as the hub through which distant settlements exchanged artifacts and ideas, researchers say.

Tonga is an archipelago of about 160 Polynesian islands, with the core of the kingdom covering an area of about 195,000 square miles. The islands, located about two-thirds of the way from Hawaii to New Zealand, were first settled about 2,800 years ago by the Lapita people.

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Tiny Tonga Once Lorded Over 1,000-Mile Pacific Ocean Empire
The seafaring empire of Tonga in the South Pacific Ocean once spanned more than a thousand miles, serving as the hub through which distant settlements exchanged artifacts and ideas, researchers say.

Tonga is an archipelago of about 160 Polynesian islands, with the core of the kingdom covering an area of about 195,000 square miles. The islands, located about two-thirds of the way from Hawaii to New Zealand, were first settled about 2,800 years ago by the Lapita people.

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GEOFFREY CLARK
A centuries-old stone structure still stands at Heketa, Tongatapu.
Beginning about 800 years ago, a powerful chiefdom arose in Tonga, unique in Oceania — that is, the islands of the South Pacific — in how it successfully united an entire archipelago of islands. However, much remained unknown about how far Tonga's influence actually reached.

To learn more about the extent of Tonga's empire, scientists chemically analyzed nearly 200 stone tools excavated from the centers of its leaders, especially artifacts from the royal tombs on Tongatapu, the main island of Tonga.

They found that stone artifacts in Tonga often matched rock samples from Samoa and Fiji — in fact, 66 percent of stone tools analyzed from Tonga were long-distance imports. One tool apparently was made from rock that came from as far away as Tahiti, about 1,550 miles east of Tongatapu. In contrast, stone tools from a monumental stone mound in Samoa were made from local sources of rock.

These findings revealed that Tonga was the center of a maritime empire that goods flowed toward as tribute from distant locales. The researchers suggest these exotic artifacts may have served as status symbols among Tongan elites.

"Complex societies like the Tongan maritime chiefdom had extensive contacts with other island groups," Clark told LiveScience. "The chiefdom was an important interaction hub through which ideas, goods and people could move over large distances."

—Charles Q. Choi, LiveScience

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#2072 Dec 19, 2014
NiggyMikeQuincy wrote:
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Yeah but why some tongans look like monky's and some look like Poly's....I think Tonga was the melting pot of both polynesians and melanesians....Fiji is just Poly influenced...
Hi Miggy,

Below is more on t Tonga n Hawaii connection if u r not only interested in our looks but may I hope on t history of our ppl n their accomplishments.

"Complex societies like the Tongan maritime chiefdom had extensive contacts with other island groups," Clark told Live Science. "The chiefdom was an important interaction hub through which ideas, goods and people could move over large area of ocean.

http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx ...

NUKU'ALOFA, PNS - The discovery of more than 50 ancient rock engravings in Tonga has excited archaeologists, who say they demonstrate the links between the Pacific island and Hawaii before Europeans arrived.

"The site is a truly significant discovery in illustrating the remarkable Polynesian voyaging capacity," archaeologist David Burley, a specialist in Tongan history, told AFP.

"In the pre-European era, whether Tongans went to Hawaii, Hawaiians to Tonga or some other possibility, it illustrates a connectedness of west and east Polynesia in later pre-history that is under-appreciated."

Tonga, where Mr Burley has previously documented a fishing village established 2900 years ago as the first settlement in Polynesia, is 5,060 kilometres from Hawaii.

The rock drawings, or petroglyphs, include images of humans and animals and are on two slabs of beach-rock that were exposed by erosion on Tonga's Foa island. They are in the style of the earliest stick figure forms in Hawaii, which would place them between the years 1250 and 1550.

Mr Burley said the dates correlated closely with two adjacent archaeological sites on Foa, a village and a pigeon-snaring mound, that had been placed in the period 1450 to 1650.

"In short, I am fully convinced that the site is pre-Captain Cook," he said referring to the English explorer who stayed in Tonga for three months in 1777.
First Fijian

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#2073 Dec 20, 2014
Researchers made by scientists have shown that the skin colour of the pre-flood race was mid-brown.Because it contains the red,white,yellow nd black skin colours in it.And its hair textures are curley hair type,as it contains both straight and afro..If you see the hair type of the island people or coastal people of most parts of Fiji,they are mostly curls.And they are the descendants of the first settlers of Fiji,which can be dated back to 2000+ yrs BC,according to archaelogical excavations in Moturiki Island.The afro hairs in Fiji were brought by Lutunasobasobas crew who arrived late in the 1600s,nd they are the hill tribes.

Since: Dec 13

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#2074 Dec 21, 2014
First Fijian wrote:
Researchers made by scientists have shown that the skin colour of the pre-flood race was mid-brown.Because it contains the red,white,yellow nd black skin colours in it.And its hair textures are curley hair type,as it contains both straight and afro..If you see the hair type of the island people or coastal people of most parts of Fiji,they are mostly curls.And they are the descendants of the first settlers of Fiji,which can be dated back to 2000+ yrs BC,according to archaelogical excavations in Moturiki Island.The afro hairs in Fiji were brought by Lutunasobasobas crew who arrived late in the 1600s,nd they are the hill tribes.
Billy,

Can u shoot me a link man. Thanx yeah!!!
iSland Olosega

Los Angeles, CA

#2075 Dec 23, 2014
Se Ufa !
Frankie Lucas

Los Angeles, CA

#2076 Jun 20, 2015
Kaliavakatau wrote:
LOL, who is Ahoeitu's dad? Did you not read a darn thing I wrote? I just told you that the Tui Manua/Ahoeitu myth came about because of the Tui Kanokupolu and the Haa Ngata line. The Tui Tonga took many Samoan wives (concubines) from high ranking Samoan families. As the Samoan mother enters the Tui Tonga stable of wives, she starts to weave the creation myths of her Island and passes it on to her sons who later mixes it up with other creation myths floating around in Polynesia at that time. Remember, there was no such thing as a Tongan nation in ancient days, it was all various clans from the three major Island groups (Tongatapu, Haapai and Vavau) at war with each other. That is why Tongan oral history is not fluid, the people were too busy fighting and killing each other, no one had time to sit around and think of myths on where they came from (that wasnt an important issue at that time). In addition, when Missionaries arrived in Tonga and Samoa, and as the process of oral stories are written into text, there are no legends from Samoa or Tonga claiming Ahoeitu descends from the Tui Manua, this line of BS appears after World War II and it seems to have been perpetuated from Samoan expats living either in NZ or the US. The following source should provide more information:
SÄMOA’S PRE-CONTACT CONNECTIONS IN WEST
POLYNESIA AND BEYOND
SHAWN S. BARNES AND TERRY L. HUNT
Department of Anthropology, University of Hawai‘i, Mänoa
At any rate, let us focus on ways to return to a more unified Polynesian triangle, before the palangi arrived, then the ethnic drama we have now. Peace
Polynesians had no written language everything was passed down through song , dance or chants . All through Polynesia there is Manua Alii e chant . Our Hawaiian King David Kalakaua wrote a book on where All the Polynesian Monarchy came from ( Samoa ) infact the Kamehameha line came from the Warrior high Chief Pili Kaeae oh Upolu Samoa in the 12th century with the high priest Paao . Tonga was occupied by Samoans one part of the island and Figians the other . Figians carry the melanesian gene markers , Samoans Polynesians gene . Tongans carry both . Tui pulotu was first followed by Tui manua that ruled through all the Pacific . Tui Tonga came much later your royalties will admit their origin . When Polynesians die they beleive their souls go back to the mother land . Guess where is the motherland ?(Samoa) which means sacred center the heart of Polynesia
Tui_Tonga

United States

#2077 Jul 15, 2015
what the wrote:
Did tonga rule samoa?
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Yes.
There are many variations on the tale (most passed on in oral tradition).
I am on Samoan descent and this is my understanding of the tale.
Ahoeitu, the half god Tongan king who climbed up into the sky conquered Samoa in about 950 and the Tongans ruled Samoa for the following 300 years. <--- This line is an exaggeration. Ahoeitu was half samoan and never ruled Samoa. Go to the "Discuss" part of this page for details(in the left column).
During that time the Tongans built forts called Pa Tonga using the Samoans as slave labour.
The end came about like this.
It was the birthday of the Tongan governor in Samoa and the Tongans and Samoans gathered to have a great feast for his birthday. The Samoans brought lots of food. The Tongans feasted and danced. The Samoans danced too.
Meanwhile, Samoan warriors were hiding around the area of the feast. When the signal was given the Samoan warriors came out and attacked the Tongans who were tired from feasting and dancing. The Samoans won this first battle at this first fort.
It was the start of a war and fort by fort, the Samoan won back their homeland until all of the Tongan forts were defeated.
When the last fort was overthrown the last Tongan chief left in his canoe.
There were two Samoan chiefs who were brothers and who had led the war against the Tongans and they were watching this Tongan chief depart. As the Tongan chief was leaving in his canoe, he stopped it for a moment and the Samoan chiefs approached him to see why he was stopping.
He turned to them and said, "Malie tau! Malie toa!" (Good fight! Brave warriors!) From this saying there is a family in Samoa that has taken this title and are called,'Malietoa'. From their family group is selected the High Chief (or "King") of Samoa.
After the Tongan chief said these words he said, "If the Tongans ever return to Samoa, it will be for a friendly visit."
Good sites tautari!
Tongans ruled Samoa, and that is that. Obviously the Samoans never killed no Tongan during the malietoa war cuz they were in the boats yelling bs to the Samoans and came back a couple days later. We just wanted your women so the King Js bullshitted n said malietoa since he felt bad for smashing his wife. It must have been Js a wrestling match Cuz if u guys really kicked us out why TF did the Tongans still keep comin back & there is still a shit ton of Tongans in Samoa and Not vise versa! I guess that means Samoan pun is good & Tongans just love those hamo chiccs! That's why you are calledHa'amoa chicken clan- cause yall got the chicks!
Silencer

Auckland, New Zealand

#2078 Jul 5, 2016
Reading up all this and now I feel like some Samoan tero. Sniff sniff... Stiff stiff? Tap tap... Gap gap???? Chaaaaa hoooooooooo LOL
POLYNESIAN PRIDE

Australia

#2079 Aug 8, 2016
I believe that Samoans and Tongans can get along. It will be a great force if these two join forces. There is a lot to gain in standing side by side then opposing each other. We are all have mixed blood in us which are of Samoan and Tongans. So help us all by sticking to the fact and acknowledge each other's strength and beauty. Let us ditched all make up stories. The title aboe is, "Tonga's Nukuleka is the birth place of Polynesia." That is a fact which was recently discovered by the latest excavation at Nukuleka. This is the discovery of the trail of the Lapita People. Dr Mahina's researched was done prior to this discovery. Thank you and God bless everyone - Samoans and Tongans alike.
Faa Samoa

Drummoyne, Australia

#2080 Aug 11, 2016
Kaliavakatau wrote:
Lol, I still don't see what your point is TOA. The Tongan Monarchy/Government makes it very clear:

"The Tu’i Tonga is the ancient sacred line of kings beginning with ‘Ahoeitu the first divine ruler of Tonga. His father is said to have been the God Tangaloa ‘Eitumatupu’a and he had a mortal mother called ‘Ilaheva.

The tenth Tu’i Tonga, Momo, married the daughter of Lo’au. Their son Tu’itatui built the stone trilithon located near Niutoua called the Ha’amonga a Maui or the ‘burden of Maui’. This period is believed to be the height of the Tongan empire extending from parts of Fiji, westward to Samoa, northwards to Tokelau and further eastward to include Niue and the Cook Islands."

( http://www.palaceoffice.gov.to/index.php... )

There is no mention anywhere of a Tui Manua having anything to do with the Tui Tonga dynasty at all. The Government determines the history of its people. Besides, from what I've learned from from freinds in Tau and Olosega, there is no mention at all of a Tui Tonga Fusifonua (the alleged Manuan chief who gave the demi-god Maui a fish hook to pull up the Tongan islands, etc). In fact, its seems the Tui Manua and Tui Tonga were allies and in some versions, even friends, so I don't think
you have much to go on. This is why few Pacific scholars even talk about the Tui Manua or its made up empire. There simply isn't enough evidence to conclude that such an empire even existed.
You would never know real Tongan history because of your family Tongan rank! Speak Samoan if you want to be herd! Nobleman be aware every Samoan man or women has and will always have right to rule tonga as you are of lower rank being Tongan nobility! Samoa , learn the meaning of your language and Samoan culture for it is you share thus older and deeper than you undermine. No such thing as faa Tonga or faa fiti.... Only faa Samoa ... The Samoan way of life (Matai system)
Our own democratic system .
Faa Samoa

Drummoyne, Australia

#2081 Aug 11, 2016
Tui_Tonga wrote:
<quoted text>
Tongans ruled Samoa, and that is that. Obviously the Samoans never killed no Tongan during the malietoa war cuz they were in the boats yelling bs to the Samoans and came back a couple days later. We just wanted your women so the King Js bullshitted n said malietoa since he felt bad for smashing his wife. It must have been Js a wrestling match Cuz if u guys really kicked us out why TF did the Tongans still keep comin back & there is still a shit ton of Tongans in Samoa and Not vise versa! I guess that means Samoan pun is good & Tongans just love those hamo chiccs! That's why you are calledHa'amoa chicken clan- cause yall got the chicks!

U SHULD LOOK N THE MIRROR AND ASK Y U LOOK FIJIAN...? Lol
(You are a mixture of ppl Samoan and Fijian )(I'm sorry)(it's the truth)
(You only survived because of Samoan civil war ) and sucking Fijian dick ,
NOTE ; Samoas greatest battle stories and rivalry is not even with tonga..lol it's with Fiji ,, and Tonga says the same coz u were the same ppl (Samoan),, dumb ass!

Lol you will never know your history because you and your family are probably of poverty and low ranking family in Tonga and probably society, depicting the content of your limited vocabulary and knowledge, you still call samoa, haamoa , and you don't even know why.. Tonga is forbid to use "sa" as it is taboo for you to use as the rest of all Polynesians hence why hawaii and not savaii,
Its funny you say the warriors from tutuila used to encrouage each other to venture "south " Tonga and "far south " Raro tonga to acquire women to give birth, men as Samoan men will only make males with rarotongan and tongan women , as they were of lower rank in society, the "tui" titles started from the Tagaloga family of Samoan origin , TONGANS NEED TO SPEAK AND UNDERSTAND SAMOAN TO UNDERSTAND THEIR OWN HISTORY!
Faa Samoa

Drummoyne, Australia

#2082 Aug 11, 2016
Tui_Tonga wrote:
<quoted text>
Tongans ruled Samoa, and that is that. Obviously the Samoans never killed no Tongan during the malietoa war cuz they were in the boats yelling bs to the Samoans and came back a couple days later. We just wanted your women so the King Js bullshitted n said malietoa since he felt bad for smashing his wife. It must have been Js a wrestling match Cuz if u guys really kicked us out why TF did the Tongans still keep comin back & there is still a shit ton of Tongans in Samoa and Not vise versa! I guess that means Samoan pun is good & Tongans just love those hamo chiccs! That's why you are calledHa'amoa chicken clan- cause yall got the chicks!
Lol Tonga only ruled parts of upolu for 2 generations ,, it's was said that Tongans were too pussy to land on tutuila , manono, apolima, ofu, olosega, parts of savai'i and manua for their renowned warriors were formidable ...
E ka le hamo ka sese , ka le koga ka le pe
Folauimanuka

Los Gatos, CA

#2083 Oct 29, 2016
Kaliavakatau wrote:
Lol Mr.Toa, the research has shown that there were never as Fale Faka Manuka in Manua, just the same as there is no Falefisi in Fiji as well, lol, if you read what the researchers are saying, everything points to Tonga as the origin of Samoan houses including the Falealofau and Faletele, the researchers also confirm through archeological studies in Manua and throughout Samoa that there is no evidence to support the idea that the Fale Fakamanuka ever existed in the Samoan islands. This is why Dr.Mahina claims the Fale Faka Manuka was actually a house of worship borrowed from Manua. You really need to read carefully the sources I give you and not just cut and paste whatever you like to fit your own agenda.(smiling) I don't mind people borrowing the sources I have, for I have many, just use it in the context that's it given in. Besides, what is it with you and this undying urge to prove that everything comes from Manua? LOL, a Samoan freind of mine in Pesega who vistits a chat site called 'Talofa Lava' told me you're using my posts over there as well. Lol, take it easy buddy, let's get off the BS pride express and focus on more interesting points.(smiling)
TOA you are a sack of blue balls. All central (south) Pacific Islanders come from Tonga. Makua'i leiloa 'oe se pa'upa'u. Fa'aaoga lau mafaufau li sole. Ese Le makaga 'I le gafa lea ua ka'u mai. Tu'u ia na loto tetele

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#2085 Aug 9, 2017
Faa

Your perspective on our ancient Tongan history is mildly clouded to say t least. However, you have a right to your opinion, but w out some supporting evidence, it's just good as mine ..lol...

As far as our good looks. Know lies, fijians dna has shown that they are 80% polynesian. Which ever of our ancestors is responsible, its not certain, but what we know Samoans didln't travel to Fiji w out t Tongans, so maybe we're gulity. Don't apologize about it, it's where we get t curls for gurls :).

You also need to know this, that prior to t Tu'i Tonga Aho'eitu, there was never a Samoa. Each island was separate from each other. He conquered and united t group island under his rule and honored his father inlaw t Tu'i Manu'a Moa by naming it Samoa, in Tonga Ha'a Moa in English t Clan of Moa.

Unfortunately, for you, i happen to know enough about my family history to see through your lies and lies will not silence t truth.
Faa Samoa wrote:
<quoted text>

U SHULD LOOK N THE MIRROR AND ASK Y U LOOK FIJIAN...? Lol
(You are a mixture of ppl Samoan and Fijian )(I'm sorry)(it's the truth)
(You only survived because of Samoan civil war ) and sucking Fijian dick ,
NOTE ; Samoas greatest battle stories and rivalry is not even with tonga..lol it's with Fiji ,, and Tonga says the same coz u were the same ppl (Samoan),, dumb ass!

Lol you will never know your history because you and your family are probably of poverty and low ranking family in Tonga and probably society, depicting the content of your limited vocabulary and knowledge, you still call samoa, haamoa , and you don't even know why.. Tonga is forbid to use "sa" as it is taboo for you to use as the rest of all Polynesians hence why hawaii and not savaii,
Its funny you say the warriors from tutuila used to encrouage each other to venture "south " Tonga and "far south " Raro tonga to acquire women to give birth, men as Samoan men will only make males with rarotongan and tongan women , as they were of lower rank in society, the "tui" titles started from the Tagaloga family of Samoan origin , TONGANS NEED TO SPEAK AND UNDERSTAND SAMOAN TO UNDERSTAND THEIR OWN HISTORY!

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