Tools Hint at Earlier Start for Human...

Tools Hint at Earlier Start for Human Smarts

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Since: Nov 12

Quail Valley

#1 Nov 8, 2012
Long time ago I have read in the book, can't remember what book it was anymore, that humans used to be afraid of fire. This find proves that not only where they not afraid they where using fire to make tools.

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Bob Bduff

Old Lyme, CT

#2 Nov 9, 2012
Larrisa wrote:
Long time ago I have read in the book, can't remember what book it was anymore, that humans used to be afraid of fire. This find proves that not only where they not afraid they where using fire to make tools.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788... #
Don't get too cosy with the idea that early humans weren't afraid of fire. Let me rephrase that. They may not have been afraid of fire but it took millenia for them to link "fire" and "wood" to "ashes." I bring your attention to Lattimer, Fellate, et. al., Ancient Lignin Striates Suggest Wooden Domiciles in Pre-Paleolithic Iraq, Quinnipiac Univ., 2009, where the authors propose that almost all ancient peoples lived in primitive wooden structures that invariably burned down -- essentially leaving no or little trace of their existence. So making tools with fire also meant making yourself homeless (thanks to the miracle of fire). That's why caves were used so intensively by our obviously very, very low IQ forebears; they had nowhere else to go. There is also evidence that they attempted to live in holes, in hollow trees and, briefly, on clouds. With this growing trove of evidence, the time has come for some fearless scholars to take on the archaeological establishment and overthrow their ossified thinking. Or not. Personally I don't care as long as I can buy beer on Sundays.

Since: Nov 12

Quail Valley

#3 Nov 9, 2012
Some people still live in the clouds.
Dbob Dbuff

Old Lyme, CT

#4 Nov 10, 2012
Larrisa wrote:
Some people still live in the clouds.
I suppose there are those who'd prefer to live in Camden or Aurora or Detroit or Oakland or El Paso, but I think if you had your druthers you'd choose the clouds. They are not, repeat, not, for the obese. That rules out a lot of Americans. But they can always live a a hole in a tree, right? In the clouds you can buy beer on Sundays.

Since: Nov 12

Quail Valley

#5 Nov 13, 2012
I wouldn't know, I don't drink beer.
Bdob Bduff

Old Lyme, CT

#6 Nov 13, 2012
I am so disappointed that you made that answer. There is a prim, pursed-lipped smugness in that utterance. It carries the mark of a resident of Douchebaggia. My response? "Oh, no, not another one!"

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