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Lujack Skylark

Gillespie, IL

#22 Dec 28, 2007
121-125 years Shepseskaf reigns over Egypt. Shepseskaf completes his father Menkau-ru's (Manium's)pyramid. Delay of pyramid's completion do to Naramsin's receiving quarried stones as tribute. Naramsin of Akkad also took alabaster vases as tribute. Egyptain priesthood assassinates Shepseskaf. Sumer priesthood year 120 curses Naramsin for sacking the Temple of Nippur after Naramsin dies and consider Gutium barbarians a blessing as they come to power in year 120 a time of great famine. (Genesis 6:3 120th year God's spirit leaves the earth) There was famine cause Sahu-ru was born nurtured by the Vulture Goddess Nebkhet, who Egyptains pray to believing the famine will go away. Abraham embraces the worship of God in year 326; God promises Abraham a great nation.
Lujack Skylark

Gillespie, IL

#23 Dec 28, 2007
121-125 years Shepseskaf reigns over Egypt. Shepseskaf completes his father Menkau-ru's tomb. Egyptain priests assassinated Shepseskaf whose father Menkauru had reopened the Egyptain temples for worship. Egyptains began cooking over metal pans (braziers) at this time in world history. Sumer priests curse Naramsin when he died same year of the famine in year 120. Sumer priests created 8 more Sumer gods to satisfy the needs of their people.
Lujack Skylark

Gillespie, IL

#24 Dec 28, 2007
95-121 years Menkau-ru has a prosperous trade relationship with Ebla, Syria like his father Khafre. Mainland Greeks also visit Egypt. Greeks weaved baskets and also from Cythera,Greece which traded with the city of Troy traded MARBLE and olive oil: for Egyptain onyx, animal skins, & Egyptain gold. Mainland Greeks also traded with Ebla, Syria a city which quit paying Akkad tribute after Akkadian king Manishtushu died. SUMER: 80-120 years Naramsin builds a temple in Nineveh and trades with Talhatum, Asia-Minor being the first king to do so. Naramsin destroys the city of Ebla, Syria. Naram-sin worshipped the moon god Sin. Menkau-ru worshipped the sun-god Re. Naramsin invaded Egypt attacking (Manium-Sumer name for Menkauru)General Userkaf fighting under Menkauru's command lost the war.Naramsin dedicates a MARBLE vase in the Temple of Lagash where he describes his victories in the far west. Since Egyptains NEVER record wars they lose, Naramsin's war in Egypt is mentioned in Sumer history. The Jebel el Arak knife and the Naramsin Stele are shaped like an n. This knife found in Egypt was left by Naramsin's soldiers cause no other soldiers from Asia invaded the Giza plateau, in Khaf-ru or Khufu's reign. No invasion in Snef-ru's or Djoser's reign either.
Lujack Skylark

Gillespie, IL

#25 Dec 28, 2007
95-121 years Menkau-ru alabaster head was found by archaeologist. 80-120 years Naramsin received alabaster jars from Egypt. Before Menkauru's Basalt sarcophagus was lost at sea and artist made a sketch showing Menkau-ru's cartouche. Also the articulated palace facade. Palace had BARS on the windows. Before Naramsin invaded Egypt, Naramsin had trade with India. Special cages equipped with metal BARS were manufactured in Akkad. Wild animals from India were caged and sent back to Akkad. Naramsin gave the world its first circus. Naramsin's trip to Talhatum, Asia-Minor introduced him to bronze. Archaeologist found Naramsin's bronze bust in the Genesis 10:11 city of Nineveh.
Lujack Skylark

Gillespie, IL

#26 Dec 28, 2007
71-95 years Egyptain king Khaf-ru developed trade with Ebla, Syria after Akkadian king Manishtushu died. Manishtushu reigned over Akkad 65-80 years in the history of nations. When Naramsin first came to power some Sumer city states revolted and quit paying Akkad tribute. Khaf-ru's diorite statue was found in his temple. Akkadian king Manishtushu's diorite statue was found in Nippur.
Lujack Skylark

Gillespie, IL

#27 Dec 28, 2007
64-71 years Redejef 1st son of Khufu reigns over Egypt. Egyptain Glyph's found in Austrailia in Paul White's article (1996)at New South Wales Hunter's National Park state Redejef's son Djeseb was killed by two snake bites here in Austrailia. If Egyptains ships can travel all the way to Austrailia 64-71 years after mankind left the Tower of Babel---Snefru's cedar ships built at Byblos could travel to Nimrod/Sargon's city of Akkad when Snef-ru son of Path-ru (Genesis 10:14) reigned over Egypt 18-42 years in the beginning of civilization.
Lujack Skylark

Gillespie, IL

#28 Dec 28, 2007
42-64 pharaoh Khufu reigns over a peaceful Egypt. Khufu's father Snef-ru defeated the Nubians, united the 7 bows-all Egyptain tribes, defeated the Libyans and traded with the Canaanites at Byblos, Lebanon. Genesis 10:6 Sons of Ham:(1)Cush-Nubians (2)Mizraim-Egyptains (3)Phut-Libyans & (4)Canaanites. Snefru had power over all Hamitic people's 18-42 years after mankind fled the Tower of Babel. Djoser was too busy to unite the Hamitic people; Djoser built Egypt's first pyramid called the Step Pyramid.Snefru was the first Egyptain to build the Egyptain navy; Snefru built 40 boats at Byblos. What did they look like? Like Khufu's funeral ship. Khufu had the 7 bows all 7 Egyptain tribes work on his Great Pyramid in Giza, Egypt which helped strengthen Egyptain unity.
rOGER

Irvington, NJ

#29 Dec 28, 2007
Interesting. Can you please site some references? Thanks.
Lujack Skylark

Gillespie, IL

#30 Dec 28, 2007
18-42 years Snef-ru son of Biblical Path-ru (deified Ptah)Genesis 10:14 who created the nation of Pathros (Ezekiel 29:14) reigns over Egypt. Archaeologist found 20 silver bracelets in Hetephres tomb. She was Snefru's wife. Hetephres also had a silver lapis-lazuli butterfly ankhlet. Both silver & lapis-lazuli are not found in Africa. Silver was found in the Taurus mountains of Asia-Minor & lapis-lazuli was found in Afghanistan. 0-56 Sargon/Nimrod of the Genesis 10:10 city of Akkad is known as Nimrod in Akkad but when Nimrod invaded Ashur/Assyria Genesis 10:11 the Assyrians called him Sargon when he built their city of Nineveh. Sargon had built a silver storehouse and merchants from the north brought Sargon lapis-lazuli. The ships from Magan docking in Akkad's port were Egyptain for those people who argue where the nation Magan existed. Sargon's daughter Enheduanna wore lapis-lazuli beads around her neck. Artists created Enheduanna an alabaster disc. Snefru's sarcophagus was alabaster and Snefru's artisans made alabaster vessels.
Lujack Skylark

Gillespie, IL

#31 Dec 28, 2007
0-18 years Mizraim/Djoser father of the Egyptains settled in Egypt after Egyptains left the Tower of Babel to build Egypt's Tower of Babel, the Step Pyramid. Djoser's priest Imhotep witnessed the building of the square ziggurat Tower of Babel in Sumer/Shinar and decided Egypt would use stone instead of mud brick. Imhotep worshipped Ptah defied Path-ru, the father of Snef-ru. Djoser is also called Zoser. Egypt's history at the Step Pyramid started with star worship. Zoser worshipped the star Sirius. SUMER:Archaeologist found a vase with Enheduanna's name on it. Enheduanna was the first moon priestess of Ur. Sargon/Nimrod reigned 0-56 years in the history of nations. Enheduanna married the first moon priest of Ur Annapadda. Enheduanna was identified as Ishtar whose star pagans worshipped was called Sirius! Djoser & Enheduanna worshipped the same star! Sumer & Egyptain history are definitely interlinked!
Lujack Skylark

Gillespie, IL

#32 Dec 28, 2007
Enheduanna got married later in her father Sargon's reign. The Genesis 10:10 city of Erech was built before Ur was built. Enheduanna had some influence in Erech. Two possible explanations for UR king list. 34-114 years Mesannapadda & Annapadda reign at Ur, 114-150 years Meskiagnannar reigns at Ur. 150-175 years Gutium chieftain Elulu reigns over Ur's ruins. Same Elulu who destroyed Akkad after Sharkilsharra dies. 175-211 years Gutium Balulu reigns over Ur. Utu-Khegal defeats Gutian leader Tirigan and also takes Ur defeating Balulu. Utu-Khegal reigns over Ur 211-218 years. Ur-Nammu's dynasty 108 years 218-326 years. Question: Did Lugalkiginnedudu really reign over UR & Erech? Red granite & white marble are associated with Lugalkiginnedudu at the right time in history. UR's second possible list. 25-105 years King Mesannapadda & priest Annapadda reign at Ur. Vase found linking Enheduanna & Annapadda as first priestess and priest of UR still apply. 105-114 years Lugalkiginnedudu is king of Erech and UR. The red granite comes from Menkau-ru's quarries was used on Menkauru's pyramid. Egypt tribute brought back by Naramsin. White marble is connected with Egypt or Greece. Lugalkiginnedudu wasn't liked so he was kept off Erech's & Ur's king lists. 114-150 yrs. Meskiagnannar is still Ur's king. 150-175 yrs. Gutium Elulu is Ur's king 175-211 Gutian Balulu is Ur's king. 211-218 Utukhegal controls Ur & Erech 218-326 years Ur-Nammu's 108 year dynasty. Lugalkiginnedudu red granite and marble the grand link confirming Naramsin's visit to Egypt?
Lujack Skylark

Gillespie, IL

#33 Dec 28, 2007
rOGER wrote:
Interesting. Can you please site some references? Thanks.
Roger lets go with the pharaoh Pepi II & the Elamite Indattu I who claims to be "Son of Pepi". en.wilipedia.org/wiki/Elam the info here says Elamite king Kindattu destroyed Ibbi-Sin's army which would be year 326 in the history of nations.
Why year 326? Bible starts with Genesis 10:10 and ends at Ur which Abraham leaves a few years before Ur's destruction. Abraham leaves 318th year. Ur destroyed 326th year.Archaeologist Woosley "Excavations at Ur" p.254 listed Sargon's reign 55 yrs., Rimush 9 yrs., Manishtushu 15 yrs. & Naramsin 55 yrs. These are 4 kings of the Genesis 10:10 city of Akkad. More recent scholars have suggested Sargon/Nimrod 56 yrs. Rimush 9 yrs. Manishtushu 15 & Naramsin 40 years = 120 yrs. Genesis 10:10 city of Akkad held out before the Gutium take over. Sharkalisharri reigns at Akkad during the Gutium occupation. 120-211 years Gutium reign over Sumer exactly 91 years archaeologist Woosley listed. 211-218 years the 7 years exactly like Woosley listed. 218-326 years Ur-Nammu, Dungi/Shulgi, Bur-Sin, Gimil-Sin & Ibbi-Sin reigned 108 years just like Woosley listed. Biblical 326 years: 0 year Peleg born mankind leaves Tower of Babel; 30th year in history of nations Reu born, 62nd year Serug born, 92nd year Nahor born, 121st year Terah Abraham's father is born. Terah lives 121-326 years. Genesis 11:32-12:4 Terah is 130 when Abraham is born. Abraham listed first on son's list because of importance not birth order. 191st year Haran is born. 251st year Abraham is born. Haran dies in 318th year some 430 years before the Exodus. 318th Terah & Abraham move to the city of Haran. Food prices rise in Ur for 8 years until Ur falls in the 326th year in the history of nations. Amorites rebel against Pepi II for 12 years serving Elamite king Kindattu who destroyed Ur in year 326. The year 326 Abraham age 75 and Sarah age 65 visit 96 year old Pepi II and God sends plagues against this evil king. Genesis 12:17. Genesis 14:4 318-330 Amorites rebelled against Egypt. Pepi II dies year 330 and two years later Elamite king Kindattu invades Canaan and Genesis 14:17 Abraham slays Kindattu/Chedorlaomer. Kindattu's nephew is Indattu I who calls himself "Son of Pepi" in the Lost World of Elam by Walter Hinz on page 85!!! Elam's "Son of Pepi" arises to power in 332nd year-some two years after Pepi II of Egypt has died.
Lujack Skylark

Carlinville, IL

#34 Dec 29, 2007
Roger there are American Indians living in California 1500 B.C. called the Pinto Indians whose medicine men boil a turtle until the shell cracks and then predict the future. Shang Dynasty a Chinese shaman 1500 B.C. boils a turtle until the shell cracks to predict the future. Archaeologist find Shang Dynasty anchors off the coast of California dating 1520 B.C. No one makes the Chinese American Indian connection. North of California and east to the Rockies and up into Canada the American Indians worshipped the bear. The Bear culture can be traced back to Ainu in Japan,Korea and eastern Siberia. There was just the bear spirit and later the Eskimos arrive which worshipped many spirits and warfare depleted the bear worshippers. Headhunters from the south Pacific around the time of Christ invaded Peru, went down the Amazon river and later established the Mayan civilization. Skull art from Peru to decorative Mayan skulls proves this. Study the artifacts to uncover real ancient history, since the Spanish cooked the books on Indian culture in the Americas.
Lujack Skylark

Carlinville, IL

#35 Dec 29, 2007
Roger morticom.com/royaltytriviakings.htm (This is the info for Pepi II pouring honey over naked slaves.(#29)The Sacred Bee in Ancient Times and Folklore. Hild M. Ransome p. 36. House of Honey (Bur-Sin--UR). www.sumer.dk/About%20Sumer/Lamentation.htm#th... (Ibbi-Sin defeat #311 honey ceased to flow.)Sir Leonard Woosley Excavation of Ur is also a good source of information. Pepi II poured honey over slaves means there was lots of honey in Egypt. Bur-Sin having a House of Honey shows there was a honey culture in Ur also. Egypt and Ur developed trade right after the Gutian were defeated archaeologist found Ur-Nammu's copper statuette and Egyptains state Pepi I was the first king in the world to make a copper statue links Pepi I 191-240 years with Ur-Nammu's 218-236 years in the history of nations.(Oxford History of Egypt Ian Shaw 2000 A.D. shows Pepi I's copper statue. I believe Samuel Noah Kramer book The Sumerians shows Ur-Nammu's copper statuette. Leonard Woosley Excavations of Ur probably also shows Ur-Nammu's copper statuette)
Lujack Skylark

Carlinville, IL

#36 Dec 29, 2007
Morticom doesn't work. Try casinocityrebecca.com/articles/35321.html (By her picture at bottom of page is Pepi II's reference about smearing honey on naked slaves.)
Lujack Skylark

Gillespie, IL

#37 Dec 29, 2007
The Sumerians. Samuel Noah Kramer. Chicago University Press 1963 p.138 bottom reads. A woman holding a clay tablet named Nidaba instructs Gudea to build a house in accordance to the "Holy Stars". Pyramid Texts first written in Unis reign. Unis dies. Teti is next Egyptain king. Set you before the spirits, the IMPERISHABLE STARS. Rise up, O Teti, you shall not die!( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_Texts )Tower of Babel was a temple built for star worship. Enheduanna was first moon priestess of Ur & Djoser built the Step Pyramid stairway to Heaven to reach the stars) Egypt:Unis & Teti & Sumer Gudea were going back to star worship which originated at Babylon.
Lujack Skylark

Gillespie, IL

#38 Dec 29, 2007
Ebla was a city established by Eber in Genesis 10:25. Eber was 34 yrs. old when humanity left the Tower of Babel at Peleg's birth.( www.biblicalarchaeology.org/best/bswbBestSubP... ) A cartouche of pharaoh Khafre was found at Ebla, Syria & a seal of Pepi I was found at Ebla, Syria.( www.syriagate.com/Syria/about/cities/Idlib/eb... )States Ebla,Syria was destroyed by Naramsin.
(1)71-95 years Khafre had trade with Ebla,Syria.(2)0-56 Sargon/Nimrod,56-65 Rimush & 65-80 years Manishtushu all collected tribute from Ebla/Ibla, Syria (3)80-120 years Naramsin of Akkad destroys Ebla, Syria (4)191-240 years Pepi I trades with the rebuilt city of Ebla,Syria. Modern historians say:(1) Pepi I reigned 2327-2278 B.C.(2)Naramsin reigned 2270-2230 B.C. when Naramsin destroyed Akkad.(3)Pepi I had trade with Gudea & Ur-Nammu who lived 100 years after Naramsin died. Gudea lived when the Gutium controlled Sumer & Ur-Nammu reigned after the Gutium were defeated.(4) How can one date artifacts if the history is not right? Does anyone care to date ancient history correctly?
Lujack Skylark

Gillespie, IL

#39 Dec 29, 2007
Chlorite connection. 120-145 years Sharkalisharri reign Elamite king Kutik-Inshushinak 125-150 years secures independence from Akkad. Elamites throw off the Akkadian language and briefly speak Linear Elamite script. 150th year Gutium invade Elam.( winelib.com/wiki/Elam#History )& ( www.bible-history.com/ancient_art/cylinder_se... )Chlorite Seal of Sharkalisharri. & www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/200405/what.wa... (The Sumerians Samuel Noah Kramer University of Chicago Press 1963 p.66 Sharkalisharri)Jiroft art was the art on the Narmer Palette: lion body with snake heads is Elamite and the pose is Egyptain king Sahure's exact pose like Sahure's pose at Wadi Maghara. Sahure reigned 135-149 in the history of nations. Sharkalisharri p.66 The Sumerians had problems with the Amorites? Why? Naramsin 80-120 years destroyed Ebla,Syria an Amorite base. 120-145 Sharkalisharri reigns and the Amorites (Martu) attack Akkad. The Amorites are defeated. 145th year Sharkalisharri dies. Civil war at Akkad 145-148 years. Gutian chieftain Elulu wins victory; Elulu destroys Ur 150th year. Gutians also overthrow Elamite king Kutik-Inshushinak's government. Amorites see Akkad is destroyed 145th year; Amorites invade Egypt 149th year. In Unis bas relief shows 4 races in Egypt.(1) Egyptains,(2)Amorites,(3)Libya ns & (4)Nubians. The Nubians & Egyptains were not in chains. Pyramid Texts state "Unis gives the god Atum praise for defeating Egypt's enemies in the north, south, east and west. Unis reigns 149-178 years in the history of nations. Palettes for the cosmetic kohl were created in Sahure's reign 135-149 years when Sahure's ships visited Punt. Gudea 180-201 years Gudea creates ceremonial maces. The maces found with Pepi I's copper statue are not pre-dynastic. Egypt did not exist before the Step Pyramid. Egyptains before the Step Pyramid were working on the Tower of Babel.
Lujack Skylark

Gillespie, IL

#40 Dec 29, 2007
Traditios of nations. Look real closely at the Naramsin Stele. There are people carrying large poles. Naramsin (80-120 years) Look at the Narmer Palette. On one side there are people carrying long poles. The cow heads look like they are sitting on the Great Pyramid. Cattle ranching was big business in Sahure's reign 135-149 years. He lived in the bull nome. Sharkalisharri 120-145 yrs.(Mesopatamian letters)ranch hands were paid in silver to protect ranchers from Gutian raids. Page 277 identifies Magan with Egypt. Page 276 states Naramsin attacked king Manium (Menkaure) and took quarried stones and alabaster vases back to Akkad.(The Sumerians Samuel Noah Kramer 1963) Naramsin was the first king to ever visit Talhatum, Asia-Minor & Sahure was the first king to trade with Asia-Minor so Naramsin at 80-120 years & Sahure at 135-149 years with people pictured on artifacts carrying poles and the Jiroft civilization artwork (Narmer Palette) seem to link ancient history beautifully.
Lujack Skylark

Gillespie, IL

#41 Dec 30, 2007
(Genesis 6:3 God said his spirit would part the earth year 120 in the history of nations. God's spirit returns with Abraham's commitment to him.) The Sumerians Samuel Noah Kramer p.310-311 We see Eannatum's Stele of Vultures. Egyptain history Sahure was born year 120 being nurtured by the Vulture goddess Nebkhet. Sahure named the lands west of Egypt Saha-ra to honor his Vulture goddess Nebkhet. Naramsin dies year 120 and Sumer priests blame the world famine on Naramsin as they went their pagan ways. Eannatum sacrificed doves using cedar wood ships having trade with Byblos. 125-150 years Elamite king Kutik-Inshushinak sacrificed two doves using cedar wood chips. (Walter Hinz Lost World of Elam) (Byblos connection) Sahure reign 135-149 years; Sahure had extensive trade with Byblos. Sahure also had acquired Elamite Jiroft artifacts.(Narmer Palette) Before Kutik-Inshushinak 0-120 years Akkad held domination over Elam. Akkadian king Manishtushu 65-80 years let Elam trade with Egypt. Khafre 71-95 years Sphinx man's head on lions body is Elamite art. Elamite snake head on lion's body (Narmer Palette) is Jiroft, Elam artwork. 

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