Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Brussels Journal

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Brother bmz, I know the Koran rejects trinity, Isa dipping in water and getting crucified etc. Even I refuse believe it. But somehow, the Koran accepts that Jewish fable about David slaying Goliath/Jalut. Refer to 2:251 - "So they routed by Allah's leave and David slew Goliath...." which should be a concern to all muslims like you.
I am glad brother Mahmood that you acknowledged that the absurdities filling the gospels are rejected and refuted by Qur'aan.

David's and the stories of the patriarch do not belong to the Christian Bible. You know well, bro, that the Church plagiarized and copied the Jewish Scriptures wholesale and called it the Old Testament.

Qur'aan tells us only the relevant part of those stories to inform us what happened before. So, it is not a matter of any concern. It is a matter of getting the right information.

Passages such as old hag falling for Sarah, when she was very old (2nd time in Genesis 20), showing them as liars, Jacob and his mother deceiving Issac, God hating Esau and loving Jacob, Judah going for Tamar, David getting a man killed to get the woman, and all other stories did not make entry into Qur'aan.

So, these absurd stories should be a great concern to the Church and Christians as they link Jesus' absurd genealogy to David and Judah.

Thanks, bro.
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<quoted text>Kinanah was murdered by your "prophet," who then took his widow as "lawful booty" because he wanted to f'uck her. You say that "they deserved it," but I say that you are an unthinking slave of a rapacious monster who disguised himself as a prophet.
Kinana and other leaders of the Jewish tribe deserved death and that is what they got. So, you can stop wasting your crocodile tears.

The Prophet married the widow, Fool. And according to your own sources, Safiya had always wanted to be prophet's wife.

Now think of all those Jews, who were killed in Jesus' name by the slaves of Christendom, who showed no mercy to them at all. The Jews, who did not conspire against Christendom rogues at all and yet were beheaded, murdered, burned alive and boiled in oil over centuries.
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You muztards can blow the hot air as hard as you like but the fact remains that mad mo was a murderous, raping, looting tyrant who preached terror and slavery and therefore mo was a false prophet.
This is self evident.
Them muztards are the most hated and despised parasites and cowards in human history.
You must be so proud.
Our prophet "preached slavery" this is interesting, really interesting. Can you name any prophet which preached against slavery?

In fact it is in Islam in which Freeing Slaves has been made an act of piety and freeing slaves has been recommended as expiation for certain sins.

It was thru the lips of our prophet that humanity "learned" that Slaves also has some rights!!

The last word spoken by our prophet were "(Treat your) women well and also your slaves"

And you have cheek to say that our prophet preached "slavery"!! If you want to tell lies do so, but not in so brazen way, when people can catch you!!
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listen mister scholar may be you are much advanced than what the sanskrit shastras say all of them i mean to wrt to your modern sciences but all the people who came here to study in bharat took good part of it and if you are advanced for a while you will someday know i wish in you life span what is it

and your way of talking shows how educated you are while talking about science we are not fighting or abusing here okay if it is that way choose it then clearly
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isten mister scholar may be you are much advanced than what the sanskrit shastras say all of them i mean to wrt to your modern sciences but all the people who came here to study in bharat took good part of it and if you are advanced for a while you will someday know i wish in you life span what is it

and your way of talking shows how educated you are while talking about science we are not fighting or abusing here okay if it is that way choose it then clearly

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bmz wrote:
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I am glad brother Mahmood that you acknowledged that the absurdities filling the gospels are rejected and refuted by Qur'aan.
David's and the stories of the patriarch do not belong to the Christian Bible. You know well, bro, that the Church plagiarized and copied the Jewish Scriptures wholesale and called it the Old Testament.
Qur'aan tells us only the relevant part of those stories to inform us what happened before. So, it is not a matter of any concern. It is a matter of getting the right information.
If you cannot accept the tales in the Gospels, then you have to reject the tales in the Quran.

Only because Quran says the Nazarene was able to speak at few hours after his birth, or have created a bird out of clay and blown life into it,(giving a life to something or someone should be a work of god, not of man, no messenger of god before or after Jesus made this), doesn't make the claims true.

So stop of being hypocrite using your double standard and reject all the tales from all the so called holy books, Quran included), or if you accept the Quran tales, then you have to authority to denigrate the tales of others, being yourself a tale believers.

By the way, concerning the Quranic Nazarene, the narratives of him created a bird and defending his mother to have not fornicated were tales taken from non-canonical books, called Infacy Gospels. This means that Quranic editors have copied and pasted something considered by Christian authorities to be 2nd class tales.

In conclusion Quranic tales regarding Jesus are even worst than Gospels tales.

HILARIOUS.
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Buford wrote:
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Muslims submit themselves to Mohammad, period.
mohammad is dead so they cannot submit to him, but only someone's conception of him at best. The koran was written decades after his death and the biographies of him over a hundred years later. There is no way of know what the true mohammad was and there for no reason to believe he was a prophet of God. muslims do everything to please the muslim community in which they live; this is submission to the muslim community and not God.
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Paul WV wrote:
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mohammad is dead so they cannot submit to him, but only someone's conception of him at best. The koran was written decades after his death and the biographies of him over a hundred years later. There is no way of know what the true mohammad was and there for no reason to believe he was a prophet of God. muslims do everything to please the muslim community in which they live; this is submission to the muslim community and not God.
We KNOW Holy Prophet Muhammed is dead and we accept his death as a natural phenomenon for all humans.
He did NOT create us.
Unfortunately, you refuse to believe that BJ the non-gentile is no longer here as he was KILLED by either Italians or the Non-Gentiles!!
All humans DIE!

I know you are shocked in denial, angry, bargaining with satan, depressed etc, but it's time you ACCEPT that BJ was killed by non-gentiles or italians instead of being in denial!!!!

Who will come forward to accept responsibilty so they can be forgiven on grounds of not knowing what they were doing...Italians or Non-gentiles!???

The biggest CON that Gentiles have been dished up is the Worship of a Non-Gentile man as "god"!!!

True GOD sent us a Gentile Prophet.
That Prophet DEFINITELY does NOT want you to worship him.

His message is simple: Worship GOD and ONLY GOD!

Wake up Paul!!
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STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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If you cannot accept the tales in the Gospels, then you have to reject the tales in the Quran.
Only because Quran says the Nazarene was able to speak at few hours after his birth, or have created a bird out of clay and blown life into it,(giving a life to something or someone should be a work of god, not of man, no messenger of god before or after Jesus made this), doesn't make the claims true.
So stop of being hypocrite using your double standard and reject all the tales from all the so called holy books, Quran included), or if you accept the Quran tales, then you have to authority to denigrate the tales of others, being yourself a tale believers.
By the way, concerning the Quranic Nazarene, the narratives of him created a bird and defending his mother to have not fornicated were tales taken from non-canonical books, called Infacy Gospels. This means that Quranic editors have copied and pasted something considered by Christian authorities to be 2nd class tales.
In conclusion Quranic tales regarding Jesus are even worst than Gospels tales.
HILARIOUS.
Did you read the Quran in English?
Thank you.
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Our prophet "preached slavery" this is interesting, really interesting. Can you name any prophet which preached against slavery?
In fact it is in Islam in which Freeing Slaves has been made an act of piety and freeing slaves has been recommended as expiation for certain sins.
It was thru the lips of our prophet that humanity "learned" that Slaves also has some rights!!
The last word spoken by our prophet were "(Treat your) women well and also your slaves"
And you have cheek to say that our prophet preached "slavery"!! If you want to tell lies do so, but not in so brazen way, when people can catch you!!
The Same Prophet in his last Sermon said...
"All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action."
Now that really is promoting slavery!
Salaams brother.
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Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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We KNOW Holy Prophet Muhammed is dead and we accept his death as a natural phenomenon for all humans.
He did NOT create us.
Unfortunately, you refuse to believe that BJ the non-gentile is no longer here as he was KILLED by either Italians or the Non-Gentiles!!
All humans DIE!
I know you are shocked in denial, angry, bargaining with satan, depressed etc, but it's time you ACCEPT that BJ was killed by non-gentiles or italians instead of being in denial!!!!
Who will come forward to accept responsibilty so they can be forgiven on grounds of not knowing what they were doing...Italians or Non-gentiles!???
The biggest CON that Gentiles have been dished up is the Worship of a Non-Gentile man as "god"!!!
True GOD sent us a Gentile Prophet.
That Prophet DEFINITELY does NOT want you to worship him.
His message is simple: Worship GOD and ONLY GOD!
Wake up Paul!!
There is no reason to believe mohammad was a prophet of God and thus no reason to follow anything others say he said or did.
Paul WV

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Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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We KNOW Holy Prophet Muhammed is dead and we accept his death as a natural phenomenon for all humans.
He did NOT create us.
Unfortunately, you refuse to believe that BJ the non-gentile is no longer here as he was KILLED by either Italians or the Non-Gentiles!!
All humans DIE!
I know you are shocked in denial, angry, bargaining with satan, depressed etc, but it's time you ACCEPT that BJ was killed by non-gentiles or italians instead of being in denial!!!!
Who will come forward to accept responsibilty so they can be forgiven on grounds of not knowing what they were doing...Italians or Non-gentiles!???
The biggest CON that Gentiles have been dished up is the Worship of a Non-Gentile man as "god"!!!
True GOD sent us a Gentile Prophet.
That Prophet DEFINITELY does NOT want you to worship him.
His message is simple: Worship GOD and ONLY GOD!
Wake up Paul!!
Christians worship the one true God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
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bmz wrote:
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I said that there are many absurdities. There is very little truth.
Of course, I have repeatedly said that Matthew 5-7 and parables fall under truth. I think that is the only truth in the Gospels.
There, we can see the son of Mary doing the talking.
An example of where I do not see Jesus talking a word at all and that is John 1:1-15 and I consider that to be a ghastly lie.
The truth in the gospels is like a pinch of salt in a truckload of flour.
Thank you for confirming that you are a liar.
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Kinana and other leaders of the Jewish tribe deserved death and that is what they got. So, you can stop wasting your crocodile tears.
The Prophet married the widow, Fool. And according to your own sources, Safiya had always wanted to be prophet's wife.
Now think of all those Jews, who were killed in Jesus' name by the slaves of Christendom, who showed no mercy to them at all. The Jews, who did not conspire against Christendom rogues at all and yet were beheaded, murdered, burned alive and boiled in oil over centuries.
Salaams brother.
That time waster is talking about a few people who met their fate just lioke many Arabs did!
The MORE important point is his pathetic attempts to cover up the MURDER of MILLIONS of JEWS as CHRIST KILLERS by loving "Christians".

This is VERY telling from one our our own ex Archbishops.....

"Without centuries of Christian anti-Semitism, Hitler's passionate hatred would never have been so fervently echoed."
Robert Runcie, Archbishop of Canterbury .

Hitler was the best example of a loving "Christian" who massacred Millions of Christ Killing Jews, until his defeat!!!

Just look at this:
" The doctrine of transubstantiation affirmed by the Fourth Lateran Council in 1215 led CATHOLICS to believe that the bread used at the MASS changed into Jesus' FLESH. The word HOST, a term for a sacrificial victim, was (and still is) applied to this bread. Within a few years stories were spreading that JEWS WERE STEALING WAFERS OF BREAD, AND TORTURING THEM IN ORDER TO TORTURE JESUS!!!!!! A common story was that JEWS PUSHED NAILS THROUGH THE BREAD, MAKING IT BLEED IN IMITATION OF THE CRUCIFIXION, a practice known as HOST NAILING. Sometimes the bread even cried out in pain. Stories like THIS LEAD TO JEWS BEING SENT TO THE STAKE THROUGHOUT EUROPE, the first victims apparently in 1243 at Berlitz in Germany. In 1298 a host nailing story was spread by a priest at Nuremberg, as a result of which 628 JEWS LOST THEIR LIVES. In the same year a knight by the name of Rindfliesh was responsible for the EXTERMINATION of 146 JEWISH COMMUNITIES in revenge for fancied affronts to the host. In 1337 at Deggendorf in Bavaria THE ENTIRE JEWISH POPULATION WAS BURNED following the circulation of such stories. The CHURCH(!!!!!) there commissioned a number of paintings showing Jews torturing the host with thorns, and with hammers and nails. Thousands of pilgrims travelled to see these pictures, until they were withdrawn in the 1960s. Similar massacres took place elsewhere, and imaginative pictures were commissioned to lend credibility to the imaginary events that had precipitated them. Generally they showed blood flowing from the tortured wafers of bread."

THERE ARE LOADS MORE LIKE THESE....

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Paul WV wrote:
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Christians worship the one true God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
I have got news for you - They Don't!!!!!!
The Gentile Christians worship a Non-Gentile man as their God!!!!
Even the non-gentiles call you idolators.
Wake up Paul.
Stop worshipping non-gentile as your god and stop carrying non-gentile books that care ONLY about non-gentiles and tell non-gentiles to charge interest only to gentiles and to destroy gentiles UTTERLY!!!
Time to wake up.
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Paul WV wrote:
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There is no reason to believe mohammad was a prophet of God and thus no reason to follow anything others say he said or did.
You are TOO deluded to believe that Gentiles cannot be Prophets!!
You are deluded and ignorant enough to believe a tiny number of non-gentiles who wrote themselves books giving them all the rights over Gentiles and over GOD!!!!
You are betraying Gentiles and you don't even know it!!!!
Keep worshipping non-gentiles and work like dogs and pigs for them!!
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Come on dear deluded rabbee....
"even the non gentiles??"....LOL... They wrote the books and they made themselves "special"...!
Where are the tablets?
Why did moses smash at the foot of the hill?
How dumb for little man to smash up "god"'s tablets?
Who has got these tablets in god's handwriting!!!!
All a load of bull made up by non gentiles to con the world!!
The Gentile Christian does not read or understand his/her scriptures. They were not even made avaialable to him in English until after 1600's...Even then the peasant classes didn't understand more than a couple of words!!
LOL..
You should get covered in chocolate so we can have a "whole nut" bar..!
rabbee: do not care what, your delusion says is true. TheTorah is the only scripture, all written by G-D. so i do not care about, all your other scriptures, written by men. an sorry if you cannot see, the prphetic sign of the covenant being broken.

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CORRECTION POST #159262

If you cannot accept the tales in the Gospels, then you have to reject the tales in the Quran.

Only because Quran says the Nazarene was able to speak at few hours after his birth, or have created a bird out of clay and blown life into it,(giving a life to something or someone should be a work of god, not of man, no messenger of god before or after Jesus made this), doesn't make the claims true.

So stop of being hypocrite using your double standard and reject all the tales from all the so called holy books, Quran included, or if you accept the Quranic tales, then you have no authority to denigrate the tales of others, being yourself a tale believer.

By the way, concerning the Quranic Nazarene, the narratives of him created a bird and defending his mother to have not fornicated were tales taken from non-canonical books, called Infacy Gospels. This means that Quranic editors have copied and pasted something considered by Christian authorities to be 2nd class tales.

In conclusion Quranic tales regarding Jesus are even worst than Gospels tales.

HILARIOUS.
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MUHAMMAD & ISLAM: Stories not told before.
http://mukto-mona.net/Articles/asghar/muhamma...

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Islamic Conquest of Jerusalem
http://www.gojerusalem.com/article_530/Islami...

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But less than ten years after the battles between Byzantium and Persia at last came to an end, Caliph Umarís armies arrived at the gates of Jerusalem. THEY HAD ALREADY SUBJUGATED MUCH OF THE COUNTRY, and victory over the Holy City therefore seemed assured. Patriarch Heraklios fled the country, taking the True Cross from Jerusalem with him.

When at last the Greek Orthodox Patriarch Sophronius of Jerusalem was forced to surrender in 638 A.D., Umar is believed to have traveled to Jerusalem personally in order to receive the surrender. Umar had become the second caliph following the death of Abu Bakr, making him one of the earliest successors of Mohammed himself. His procession into the city was a humble one: the caliph was clad in simple attire, leading a camel. HIS CONQUEST OF JERUSALEM, ONCE THE CITY HAD SURRENDERED, WAS MARKED BY ITS LACK OF FURTHER KILLING AND DESTRUCTION.
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How many Jews were killed by Muslims in this process of subjugation and conquest? Who knows?

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Alex123 aka WM wrote:
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Did you read the Quran in English?
Thank you.
Does it matter if I read the Quran in English? No.

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