Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Brussels Journal

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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@ Buford

Here is a copy of my email to Gilchrist and the best joke is that there is no email address given on answering-Islam site.

Hello, Gilchrist

I read an extract of your article here. That was posted by Buford.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TT8...

I posted a few responses and asked the poster to send my response to you.

Instead, he asked me to send it to you.

I do not have your email address, so I have assumed it to be:

gilchrist@answering-islam.org

Hope you do get this email and if you do, please read the posts at Topix and email me back your comments.

Alternatively, you may post at Topix.

Thanks and best regards

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PS to Buford: I have given him my real name
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-22005...
British Muslim clerics are willing to carry out sharia marriages involving child brides as young as 12, an investigation has found.
Two imams said they would be prepared to officiate at the wedding of an underage girl to a man in his twenties, despite fears the pair would later have sex.
The revelations have led the Home Office to confirm that such ceremonies will be examined in the Government’s forthcoming Bill to outlaw forced marriages.
Stop sharia law in Britain, by Pat Condell
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The two imams are nuts and dimwits. I hope the British Home Office forms a Muslim Marriage Bureau and only well-educated and approved Imams can perform marriages.
Forced marriages are not permitted in Islam.
If I were the investigative reporter, I would have asked the Imam, if he could let me have his 12 y.o. daughter in marriage.
I guess the point is that sometimes the most backward behavior is not in the primitive tribal areas, but right on our supposedly civilized doorsteps, hidden in various enclaves.
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Let's blame the Jews, by Pat Condell
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<quoted text>Braindead Muslim Zombie,
Your fundamental error is in believing that the Qur'aan proves anything at all beyond the fact that Mohammad believed that what he dictated to his scribes was the truth.
The point is that Christianity itself blows away most of the lies, it concocted. The Christian scripture is a load of lies.

So, when I read Qur'aan, I know it is saying the same thing that I found out.

For example, Qur'aan rejects Trinity or the three Gods of trinity. The Christian scripture is totally silent on this matter. Trinity is not there in the Bible. On top of that, I do not find Jesus telling the big lie that God is triune or a trinity. So, Qur'aan is right!

According to Qur'aan, Jesus was the messenger of God. According to Christianity, Jesus is God.

I don't find Jesus saying anywhere, "I am God" or " I am the begotten son of God." So, Qur'aan rightly points out that God has not begotten a son and since there is no other God besides God, Jesus is not God.

So, Qur'aan exposes the lies of Christianity and that really is a good thing. Right?

Muhammad believed in what was revealed to him. The founding fathers of the Church believed in what pagan philosophers and other Godless men told them.
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I guess the point is that sometimes the most backward behavior is not in the primitive tribal areas, but right on our supposedly civilized doorsteps, hidden in various enclaves.
I agree with that. Anyway, I consider that uncivilized.
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@ Buford
Here is a copy of my email to Gilchrist and the best joke is that there is no email address given on answering-Islam site.
It took me about 20 seconds to find this email address on the answering-Islam site, here: http://www.answering-islam.org/dialog.html

The email address is dialog2011@answering-islam.de

IOW, the joke is on you.
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The point is that Christianity itself blows away most of the lies, it concocted. The Christian scripture is a load of lies.
So, when I read Qur'aan, I know it is saying the same thing that I found out.
For example, Qur'aan rejects Trinity or the three Gods of trinity. The Christian scripture is totally silent on this matter. Trinity is not there in the Bible. On top of that, I do not find Jesus telling the big lie that God is triune or a trinity. So, Qur'aan is right!
According to Qur'aan, Jesus was the messenger of God. According to Christianity, Jesus is God.
I don't find Jesus saying anywhere, "I am God" or " I am the begotten son of God." So, Qur'aan rightly points out that God has not begotten a son and since there is no other God besides God, Jesus is not God.
So, Qur'aan exposes the lies of Christianity and that really is a good thing. Right?
Muhammad believed in what was revealed to him. The founding fathers of the Church believed in what pagan philosophers and other Godless men told them.
Braindead Muslim Zombie,

What is most clear is that you only believe what you want to believe about Jesus and the nature of God.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markdroberts/ser...
The Paradoxical Path to Lordship

In my last post I examined one of the very oldest bits of evidence for early Christian belief about Jesus. As you may recall, the original Greek text of 1 Corinthians 16:22 contains the Aramaic phrase, marana tha, which means,“Our Lord, come!” This shows that some of the very earliest Christians actually prayed to Jesus after his death and resurrection, even addressing him as “Lord,” a term used for God himself. So, though we can’t tell exactly what the first followers of Jesus believed about him, they surely held him to be much more than a man. In some way they related to Jesus as if he were God himself.

Another very early piece of early Christian belief confirms and expands upon this conclusion. In his letter to the Philippians, written during the mid- to late-50&#8242;s A.D., the Apostle Paul speaks of Christ in quite exalted language:

Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
who, though he was in the form of God,
did not regard equality with God
as something to be exploited,
but emptied himself,
taking the form of a slave,
being born in human likeness.
And being found in human form,
he humbled himself
and became obedient to the point of death–
even death on a cross.
Therefore God also highly exalted him
and gave him the name
that is above every name,
so that at the name of Jesus
every knee should bend,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
and every tongue should confess
that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father (Phil 2:5-11).

Notice that Christ, prior to becoming human, was in the form of God and possessed equality with God. Then, in light of his obedient death, God exalted him and gave him the very name of God so that all creation might bow before him and worship him as Lord. Clearly Jesus is no longer in the “merely human” category.

At the latest, this passage was written about 25 years after the death of Jesus – a testimony to early Christian belief. Yet many respectable scholars believe that Paul did not actually compose this text, but borrowed it from an earlier piece of Christian liturgy. The peculiar linguistic form of this passage, combined with its use of language that is unusual for Paul, combined with its “confessional” quality, have persuaded many New Testament scholars that Paul employed a hymn that had been written earlier than Philippians. Just how much earlier we can’t tell. But, once again, we have in Paul’s letters, which are themselves the earliest Christian documents available to us, a piece of tradition which quite possibly goes back to an earlier stage of Christian history. Of course even if Paul composed the hymn in Philippians 2:5-11, it still counts as early Christian belief about Jesus.
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I guess the point is that sometimes the most backward behavior is not in the primitive tribal areas, but right on our supposedly civilized doorsteps, hidden in various enclaves.
rabbee: what do you mean: sometimes? calling ourselves civilized, is only a means of self deceoption. pestilence, plague, and famine including globaal warming, are indications of anti-civilization.
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The point is that Christianity itself blows away most of the lies, it concocted. The Christian scripture is a load of lies.
So, when I read Qur'aan, I know it is saying the same thing that I found out.
For example, Qur'aan rejects Trinity or the three Gods of trinity. The Christian scripture is totally silent on this matter. Trinity is not there in the Bible. On top of that, I do not find Jesus telling the big lie that God is triune or a trinity. So, Qur'aan is right!
According to Qur'aan, Jesus was the messenger of God. According to Christianity, Jesus is God.
I don't find Jesus saying anywhere, "I am God" or " I am the begotten son of God." So, Qur'aan rightly points out that God has not begotten a son and since there is no other God besides God, Jesus is not God.
So, Qur'aan exposes the lies of Christianity and that really is a good thing. Right?
Muhammad believed in what was revealed to him. The founding fathers of the Church believed in what pagan philosophers and other Godless men told them.
What is most clear is that you believe only whatever confirms your assumptions.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markdroberts/ser...
The Paradoxical Path to Lordship

In my last post I examined one of the very oldest bits of evidence for early Christian belief about Jesus. As you may recall, the original Greek text of 1 Corinthians 16:22 contains the Aramaic phrase, marana tha, which means,“Our Lord, come!” This shows that some of the very earliest Christians actually prayed to Jesus after his death and resurrection, even addressing him as “Lord,” a term used for God himself. So, though we can’t tell exactly what the first followers of Jesus believed about him, they surely held him to be much more than a man. In some way they related to Jesus as if he were God himself.

Another very early piece of early Christian belief confirms and expands upon this conclusion. In his letter to the Philippians, written during the mid- to late-50&#8242;s A.D., the Apostle Paul speaks of Christ in quite exalted language:

Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
who, though he was in the form of God,
did not regard equality with God
as something to be exploited,
but emptied himself,
taking the form of a slave,
being born in human likeness.
And being found in human form,
he humbled himself
and became obedient to the point of death–
even death on a cross.
Therefore God also highly exalted him
and gave him the name
that is above every name,
so that at the name of Jesus
every knee should bend,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
and every tongue should confess
that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father (Phil 2:5-11).

Notice that Christ, prior to becoming human, was in the form of God and possessed equality with God. Then, in light of his obedient death, God exalted him and gave him the very name of God so that all creation might bow before him and worship him as Lord. Clearly Jesus is no longer in the “merely human” category.

At the latest, this passage was written about 25 years after the death of Jesus – a testimony to early Christian belief. Yet many respectable scholars believe that Paul did not actually compose this text, but borrowed it from an earlier piece of Christian liturgy. The peculiar linguistic form of this passage, combined with its use of language that is unusual for Paul, combined with its “confessional” quality, have persuaded many New Testament scholars that Paul employed a hymn that had been written earlier than Philippians. Just how much earlier we can’t tell. But, once again, we have in Paul’s letters, which are themselves the earliest Christian documents available to us, a piece of tradition which quite possibly goes back to an earlier stage of Christian history. Of course even if Paul composed the hymn in Philippians 2:5-11, it still counts as early Christian belief about Jesus.
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Buford wrote:
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It took me about 20 seconds to find this email address on the answering-Islam site, here: http://www.answering-islam.org/dialog.html
The email address is dialog2011@answering-islam.de
IOW, the joke is on you.
You were very slow. I had seen that within 5 seconds but that is not what I had wanted.

Anyway, I have sent the following email to two addresses and I can guarantee you that they will not respond.

I hope Gilchrist comes and writes here.

My latest email for your kind perusal:

Hello, Gilchrist

I read an extract of your article here. That was posted by a poster Buford.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TT8...

I posted a few responses and asked the poster to send my response to you.

Instead, he asked me to send it to you.

I do not have your email address, so I have assumed it to be:

gilchrist@answering-islam.org

Hope you did get my email and if you do, please read the posts at Topix and email me back your comments.

Alternatively, you may post at Topix.

Thanks and best regards

B
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bmz wrote:
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The point is that Christianity itself blows away most of the lies, it concocted. The Christian scripture is a load of lies.
So, when I read Qur'aan, I know it is saying the same thing that I found out.
For example, Qur'aan rejects Trinity or the three Gods of trinity. The Christian scripture is totally silent on this matter. Trinity is not there in the Bible. On top of that, I do not find Jesus telling the big lie that God is triune or a trinity. So, Qur'aan is right!
According to Qur'aan, Jesus was the messenger of God. According to Christianity, Jesus is God.
I don't find Jesus saying anywhere, "I am God" or " I am the begotten son of God." So, Qur'aan rightly points out that God has not begotten a son and since there is no other God besides God, Jesus is not God.
So, Qur'aan exposes the lies of Christianity and that really is a good thing. Right?
Muhammad believed in what was revealed to him. The founding fathers of the Church believed in what pagan philosophers and other Godless men told them.
rabbee: so your load of prejudiced lies, against their load is worth what?

the only reason christian scriptures, have become lies. is because of the alterations, that have been done.

isn't it funny why the same old devil, is not trying to alter your quran? since it is not, a threat to the devil like the christian scripture only used to be. critical thinking, would suggest their is a problem there.
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Buford wrote:
<quoted text>What is most clear is that you believe only whatever confirms your assumptions.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markdroberts/ser...
The Paradoxical Path to Lordship

In my last post I examined one of the very oldest bits of evidence for early Christian belief about Jesus. As you may recall, the original Greek text of 1 Corinthians 16:22 contains the Aramaic phrase, marana tha, which means,“Our Lord, come!” This shows that some of the very earliest Christians actually prayed to Jesus after his death and resurrection, even addressing him as “Lord,” a term used for God himself. So, though we can’t tell exactly what the first followers of Jesus believed about him, they surely held him to be much more than a man. In some way they related to Jesus as if he were God himself.

Another very early piece of early Christian belief confirms and expands upon this conclusion. In his letter to the Philippians, written during the mid- to late-50&#8242;s A.D., the Apostle Paul speaks of Christ in quite exalted language:

Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
who, though he was in the form of God,
did not regard equality with God
as something to be exploited,
but emptied himself,
taking the form of a slave,
being born in human likeness.
And being found in human form,
he humbled himself
and became obedient to the point of death–
even death on a cross.
Therefore God also highly exalted him
and gave him the name
that is above every name,
so that at the name of Jesus
every knee should bend,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
and every tongue should confess
that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father (Phil 2:5-11).
Notice that Christ, prior to becoming human, was in the form of God and possessed equality with God. Then, in light of his obedient death, God exalted him and gave him the very name of God so that all creation might bow before him and worship him as Lord. Clearly Jesus is no longer in the “merely human” category.
At the latest, this passage was written about 25 years after the death of Jesus – a testimony to early Christian belief. Yet many respectable scholars believe that Paul did not actually compose this text, but borrowed it from an earlier piece of Christian liturgy. The peculiar linguistic form of this passage, combined with its use of language that is unusual for Paul, combined with its “confessional” quality, have persuaded many New Testament scholars that Paul employed a hymn that had been written earlier than Philippians. Just how much earlier we can’t tell. But, once again, we have in Paul’s letters, which are themselves the earliest Christian documents available to us, a piece of tradition which quite possibly goes back to an earlier stage of Christian history. Of course even if Paul composed the hymn in Philippians 2:5-11, it still counts as early Christian belief about Jesus.
See, Buford. That is another lie, a big one from Paul.

That is Paul's letter but there is nothing from Jesus at all, to support that cooked up passage by Paul.

We do not see Jesus talking about being in the form of God at all to any of his disciples or others. If Jesus had really said anything of this sort, he would have been killed the same day.

These lies were spread only after Jesus was gone. And most likely that letter of Paul was also a forgery and possibly another liar wrote in his name.

Can't trust anything that comes from the Church, her fathers and men, who penned letters.

Good night.

Just as you are quoting me another lie, the Church kept on coming with lies.

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rabbee: so your load of prejudiced lies, against their load is worth what?
the only reason christian scriptures, have become lies. is because of the alterations, that have been done.
isn't it funny why the same old devil, is not trying to alter your quran? since it is not, a threat to the devil like the christian scripture only used to be. critical thinking, would suggest their is a problem there.
Rabbee,

Please tell me if Jesus told anybody that he was God? Do you believe that Jesus was God?

His own disciples never believed that he was God. The thought did not even enter their minds.

Theirs is a heap or load of lies, Rabbee.

Thanks for writing: "the only reason christian scriptures, have become lies. is because of the alterations, that have been done."

However, I must say, that their scripture began with lies and lies were plied upon. It is quite natural to see folks covering a lie with lies.
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See, Buford. That is another lie, a big one from Paul.
That is Paul's letter but there is nothing from Jesus at all, to support that cooked up passage by Paul.
We do not see Jesus talking about being in the form of God at all to any of his disciples or others. If Jesus had really said anything of this sort, he would have been killed the same day.
These lies were spread only after Jesus was gone. And most likely that letter of Paul was also a forgery and possibly another liar wrote in his name.
Can't trust anything that comes from the Church, her fathers and men, who penned letters.
Good night.
Just as you are quoting me another lie, the Church kept on coming with lies.
rabbee: their is nothing more worthless, than fighting their own crap with your own crap. since that only attracts the lord of flies, and their baal-tzeeboob followers.
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Please tell me if Jesus told anybody that he was God? Do you believe that Jesus was God?
His own disciples never believed that he was God. The thought did not even enter their minds.
Theirs is a heap or load of lies, Rabbee.
Thanks for writing: "the only reason christian scriptures, have become lies. is because of the alterations, that have been done."
However, I must say, that their scripture began with lies and lies were plied upon. It is quite natural to see folks covering a lie with lies.
What's the point in even trying to discuss anything with you? John's Thomas addresses the resurrected Jesus as "My Lord and my God," and Jesus didn't disavow it, but this can only have been a later addition and fabrication because it contradicts what the Arab Spelunker and War Lord that you adore dictated to his scribes via "Jibreel." Isn't that right?
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Rabbee,
Please tell me if Jesus told anybody that he was God? Do you believe that Jesus was God?
His own disciples never believed that he was God. The thought did not even enter their minds.
Theirs is a heap or load of lies, Rabbee.
Thanks for writing: "the only reason christian scriptures, have become lies. is because of the alterations, that have been done."
However, I must say, that their scripture began with lies and lies were plied upon. It is quite natural to see folks covering a lie with lies.
rabbee: how can i truly answer that, using your fake name? i cannot condone the use, of that fake name in any way. least i be guilty, of supporting some kind of idolitry.

using any falsified information, in any discussion removes truth from that discussion. but i shall tell you this, according to corrected scripture. that the time of Appointment, was not at hand.

for the time of Appointment, is not untill the end of the sixth day as always. when HaMosheeach, is Appointed as your L-rd of all physical totality for the last day.

this is when, HaMosheeach shall be your G-d. and all the clues supporting this, are included in TheTorah for the last time, G-D gave this whole Story of Creation, for the previous seven days.

and my contention is, that you all and your grandmother have made absolutly no progress in This Story of Creation, this time again. G-D gave this world another seven days, to make amends with. and this whole world has sooo totally blown it again.

and whether G-D gives you with, a seven day stay of execution again. well i will not know that for sure, untill is see who my appointed mate is.

if it is the same mate, as the other times. then you all get another seven days again to try and make amends. if not sorry about that, you all and your grandmother sarah faye ann carney did it to yourselves. since you all punched out, your own eternal lights.
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so essencially as long as sarah faye ann carney, is the appointed grandmother of this whole world. then every person, who has ever been physically born in the her linage is physically and precisely born again(the resurrection of the dead).

so that whether or not, you are given with eternal life, is entirely up to your attitude here in TheStory. so you are only blowing out your own candle, by not being true to G-D here in ThisStory of Creation again.

so lying will not, save you. mentally pretending to not be here, in TheStory of Creation will not save you. and you cannot verify truth, using any errant scriptures from errant taking critters.

and the only scripture i know of, that is all written by G-D and given to anyone. is called, TheTorah.
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Sahih Bukhari 3:34:432

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: that while he was sitting with Allah's Apostle he said, "O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?" The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence."

IOW, Mohammad permitted his soldiers to RAPE their female captives, thereby establishing for all time that ALLAH APPROVES OF RAPE!!!

Thank you, Mohammad!

But wait! There's more!

Qur'an 4:24

Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess. Thus has Allah ordained for you. All others are lawful, provided you seek them from your property, desiring chastity, not fornication. So with those among them whom you have enjoyed, give them their required due, but if you agree mutually after the requirement (has been determined), there is no sin on you. Surely, Allah is Ever All-Knowing, All-Wise.

IOW, CAPTIVE women, even if married, may be RAPED. All "others," meaning those who AREN'T captives and AREN'T married, must be given their "required due."

Thank you again, Mohammad, for revealing "Allah" to the world of "infidels" like me. I can hardly wait to become a Muslim and start raping captive married women, in accordance with "Allah's" will!!!
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Sahih Bukhari 3:34:432
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: that while he was sitting with Allah's Apostle he said, "O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?" The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence."
IOW, Mohammad permitted his soldiers to RAPE their female captives, thereby establishing for all time that ALLAH APPROVES OF RAPE!!!
Thank you, Mohammad!
But wait! There's more!
Qur'an 4:24
Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess. Thus has Allah ordained for you. All others are lawful, provided you seek them from your property, desiring chastity, not fornication. So with those among them whom you have enjoyed, give them their required due, but if you agree mutually after the requirement (has been determined), there is no sin on you. Surely, Allah is Ever All-Knowing, All-Wise.
IOW, CAPTIVE women, even if married, may be RAPED. All "others," meaning those who AREN'T captives and AREN'T married, must be given their "required due."
Thank you again, Mohammad, for revealing "Allah" to the world of "infidels" like me. I can hardly wait to become a Muslim and start raping captive married women, in accordance with "Allah's" will!!!
hello non-gentile bu(ttturdlick)ford!!
Why don't you answer some real questions instead of talking about buhari who is not in the Quran?
You are a non-gentile...so tell us about your religion.

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