Who Is Allah?

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

Q-D-S wrote:

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The Aten is living light creator can be both seen as a male or female in presentation. You have been invited to communicate, Aten will presented in female form. You are to take out all religious pagan items out of your room and what you are wearing, make sure you are clean and your room. Place a clean white sheet on the floor and meditate. Then asked for Aten three times, you will beging communication with the beginning of the white light head charkra. You are to do this on a Sunday and hum tone C. Then you will be shown the truth and the fate of India! Make sure you keep your mind still as you have been taught. Aten is unique and no harm shall befall you in communication, all dark energy will be destroyed around you. Then you are to come back to Q-D-S as there is a message to be passed on.

rabbee: then all your crap, must be blocking the light.

[Frijoles]

rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:

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rabbee: scientificly speaking: it was not Moshe's falt, it was G-D'S doing it at the sea of reeds. and scientificly speaking: you don't spell reed as r-e-d.

There is some question about whether it is Red or Reed. Until recently, most scholars thought Red is a corruption of Reed from the Old English, but some scholars now suggest that it was translated as Red going back as far as Josephus and before.

I prefer the native name from the bible - Yom Suf.

http://www.ou.org/pdf/ja/5770/spring70/62-65....

[STEFANO COLONNA]

Frijoles wrote:

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As usual you ignore context.
Had you bothered to read the series of posts, I never said the Torah was scientific. MUQ, otoh, intimated some type of connection between Quran and science. I was asking him to clarify.
Feel free to jump in again and look stupid. Thats why we like you.

Quran is supported by science fiction and not by science, everytime science hit the Quran, Muslims tend to ignore it or quote a pseudo scientist who says what they want to hear. Quran has the same notion of knowledge of the people of 1400 years ago. MUQ is just a deluded and proud of it.

If the story of the parting waters has not any scentific base then it means that it is a tale and that you are another deluded on the list.

[HughBe]

JOEL PASTAKIA wrote:

FOR HUGH:
i appreciate your good humor, friendliness and courtesy.
Enjoy, this sweet melody of a hot Hindi film song of the '70s. Give me your comments, if any.
www.youtube.com/watch...

1. Thank you Joel

2. Interesting song.

3. Prefer the voice of the male

4. Like the female

5. Having slid on his knees I thought that the man would have used his mouth in a more useful manner.

[HughBe]

JOEL PASTAKIA wrote:

HUGH:
The plus points of starring in a heterosexual porn film for you are:
1) Doubts about your sexual orientation will be dispelled.
2) You'll earn good money so that your financial problems will be alleviated.
3) You'll get a chance to satiate the lust and craving of the bisexuals and homosexuals on this forum by exhibiting your sexual prowess and your 14" dick.
(smiles)

Numbers below correspond to points above.

1. I have no doubt in my mind that I am a straight PUSSYcat man. No other opinion matters.

2. There is certainly a difference between "financial problems" and a desire for betterment.

3. Why would you want to totally crush their already fragile egos and make them feel and realize their gross inadequacy? Why do you not care for Eric and Frijoles and Matty etc?

[Q-D-S]

STEFANO COLONNA wrote:

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Please explain using modern scientific principles how your prophet divided the waters of Red sea.

As to whether or not Aten answers is subject to your personal beliefs.

In answer to the above I got this:

Without the higgs boson particle force holding the molecular H2O water particles together they separate. Repealing the water particles apart is caused by the use of materialised opposite polarity particles. The properties of quantum physics of matter is not in a constant state of flux subjective to spinning particles phasing in and out of anti matter. The universal sub atomic micro consciousness within the mind is the macro consciousness of the universe. The creation of particules required to be opposite in polarity are created through the projection of energy vibrating greater than the speed of light to take form as a required positive or negative particle. To slow down this vibration rate the reverse happens and the particale returns to its neutral state of energy. These mass particles projected from a central energy source from within the micro consciousness begins to take shape within the macro consciousness of this universe. Hence the parting of the red sea through thought via the use of focused energy

[HughBe]

Jesus/Yeshuwah / SALVATION in the Tanakh.

Judges 6:11-

11.And there CAME an angel of the Lord, and SAT under an oak which was in Ophrah…..

Note 1. The Angel of the Lord CAME and SAT under an OAK tree.

12 And the angel of the Lord APPEARED unto him(Gideon), and SAID unto him…….

Note 2-- The Angel; CAME, SAT, APPEARED and SPOKE to him saying “ The Lord is with thee, thou mighty man of valour.”

13 And Gideon SAID unto the ANGEL “Oh my Lord, if the Lord be with us, why then is all this befallen us?……

Note3--- The Angel; CAME, SAT, APPEARED and SPOKE to Gideon and he Gideon RESPONDED to the Angel and SAID “ Oh my lord…”.

Question, who was Gideon TALKing to? The ANGEL.

14 And the Lord/ JEHOVAH looked upon him, and SAID, Go in this thy might, and thou shalt save Israel from the hand of the Midianites: have not I sent thee?

Note 4--- Where are we told that Jehovah APPEARED to Gideon? Answer is NOWHERE!!! What we are told is the Angel APPEARED and TALKED with Gideon. So why is Jehovah butting in and RESPONDING to Gideon’s questions?

WHY is the COMING of Jehovah UNANNOUNCED?

The truth is Jehovah did NOT butt in, Jehovah IS the Angel of the Lord who was TALKING with Gideon. The words are being used INTERCHANGALY .

In verse 13 Gideon asked a couple of questions among other things and in VERSE 14 the Angel or Jehovah is RESPONDING to Gideon and gave him reassurance i.e.“thou shalt SAVE Israel from the hand of the Midianites: have not I sent thee?”

15 And he said unto him, Oh my Lord, wherewith shall I save Israel? behold, my family is poor in Manasseh, and I am the least in my father's house.
16 And the Lord said unto him, Surely I will be with thee, and thou shalt smite the Midianites as one man.

Note 5--- Ask yourselves this, is it RATIONAL to believe that Gideon completely IGNORED the Angel who CAME, SAT, APPEARED and was SPEAKING to him?

How many Beings SPOKE with Gideon? If Jehovah is not the Angel then Gideon would have been speaking with TWO Beings i.e. the Angel and Jehovah.

17 And he/Gideon said unto him, If now I have found grace in thy sight, then shew me a SIGN that thou TALKEST with me.

Note 6.-- If YOU were Gideon which one of the TWO would YOU seek to CONFIRM that you were TALKING with? Would it be Jehovah or the Angel?

Note, Gideon sought CONFIRMATION that he spoke with the Angel and not Jehovah!!! How STRANGE. THINK. Proof below.

18 Depart NOT hence, I pray thee, until I come unto thee, and bring forth my PRESENT, and set it before thee. And HE said, I will tarry until thou come again.

Note 7.
Who should NOT depart?--- The Angel who CAME?
Who was Gideon going to put his PRESENT before?-- The Angel.
Proof-- V 19 “Gideon went in, and made ready a kid, and unleavened cakes… and brought it out unto HIM UNDER THE OAK, and PRESENTED it.” FACT--The ANGEL was UNDER THE OAK.

So Gideon wanted CONFORMATION that he TALKED with the Angel and NOT Jehovah. Why not?
He KNEW THAT the ANGEL of the Lord was JEHOVAH. THINK.

Did the Angel or Jehovah give the sign and what was it? Read it for YOURSELVES.

Finally, Psalm14:7 “ Oh that the salvation/Yeshuwah of Israel were come out of Zion! when the Lord bringeth back the CAPTIVITY of his people, Jacob shall rejoice, and Israel shall be glad”

What Salvation is KING David speaking about? Who is the King looking to for DELIVERANCE? Should not the KING deliver Israel? What CAPTIVITY is David speaking of? Was Israel in CAPTIVITY during David’s reign? NO.

So what Salvation would COME OUT of Zion? Answer is Yeshuwah or the Salvation of Israel.

[HughBe]

Jesus/Yeshuwah / SALVATION in the Tanakh.

Judges 6:12--

v 12--- the Angel appeared and TALKED with Gideon.

v 13---Gideon responded to the Angel

v 14--- Jehovah responded to Gideon.

v15-- Gideon responded to Jehovah

v 16--- Jehovah responded to Gideon

v 17---Gideon found it UNBELIEVABLE that he spoke with Jehovah.

v18-- Gideon asked Jehovah to wait until he gave Him a present.

v 19--- Gideon presented the PRESENT to the Angel under the TREE and NOT to Jehovah. Recall he found it UNBELIEVABLE that he spoke with Jehovah. Note, apart from the opening words the TALK was with Jehovah. Get it?

Even the dull understands that Jehovah= Angel of the Lord and that the words are used interchangeably in Judges 6.

[HughBe]

To Eric, Frijoles and Matty I say Bi, Bi, Bi-kids.

later

[HughBe]

v 14--- Jehovah responded to Gideon.

v15-- Gideon responded to Jehovah

v 16--- Jehovah responded to Gideon

v 17---Gideon found it UNBELIEVABLE that he spoke with Jehovah.

NOTE---Any UNBELIEF MUST involve Jehovah meaning that he could not believe that he spoke to Jehovah. Why? Gideon was TALKING with Jehovah and NOT the Angel.

[noyb5349]

In the name of God.(I'm NOT Muslim, if the words, "In the name of God" sound like I am Muslim.)

The Honorable Elijah Muhammad I believe is the exalted Christ, and he teaches that the God of this time is Wearing the name Fard Muhammad. He is a Man as the Supreme Being has always been according to the Honorable Elijah Muhammad and the "We" and "Us" in the Bible (Gen. 1:26) & the Holy Qur'an is the Black Nation or race of people.

[Q-D-S]

STEFANO COLONNA wrote:

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If this Aten is so powerful why don't you tell us something personal about each regular poster here, instead to come out with something as vague as earthquakes who in this period are increasing a bit everywhere?

Will try and a answer this for you:

The one that cries for proof, whom you have asked all your life upon pain and suffering. As to why such people must suffer. You believe there is no living creator because he doesnt care about the world affairs and destruction of innocent victims. You have cursed upon the name of the creator for being omnipotent. Your wife who suffers pain, I say unto you forgive yourself as you are not to blame. These are predestin events which some say are karma. By calling out different pagan god names for help you summon them who are powerless to help. Calling upon the real name of the creator Aten, then you will have been answered.

[noyb5349]

jimmie c boswell wrote:

well it is true, that calling HaShem G-D anything other than what is given in TheTorah, is the forbidden art of witchraft of altering TheTorah. and there is no allah name mentioned in TheTorah. and you cannot even call YHVH, yaweh cause that is not how YeHOO VHee (Redemption is HE And SHE is pronounced. this according to TheOUR IMAGE of G-D, always given to Adam in the first comming of Adam. and not revealed unto always the second of adam here in always TheTorah, from TheG-D of Only and Always TheTorah is unceasingly now. and TheG-D of Only TheTorah does not give the koran to Moshe. shalomcha vshalomech???,?...

In the name of God.(I'm NOT Muslim, if the words, "In the name of God" sound like I am Muslim.)

Greetings to you, jimmie c boswell,

"Allah" is the Arabic language's way to say what is said in English, "The God." The Torah is a book that manifests itself as having been tampered with. It is not in it's original state. The Holy Qur'an Reveals to us is chapter 4:82 that Allah does not author confusion. Here are some contradictions from the Torah:

-God decided that the life-span of humans will be limited to 120 years (Genesis 6:3.)
-Many people born after that lived longer than 120. Arpachshad lived 438 years. His son Shelah lived 433 years. His son Eber lived 464 years, etc.(Genesis 11:12-16.)

To whom did the Midianites sell Joseph?

-To the Ishmaelites (Genesis 37:28.)
-To Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh (Genesis 37:36.)

Who brought Joseph to Egypt?

-The Ishmaelites bought Joseph and then took Joseph to Egypt (Genesis 37:28.)
-The Midianites had sold him in Egypt (Genesis 37:36.)
-Joseph said to his brothers I am your brother, Joseph, whom you sold into Egypt (Genesis 45:4.)

Yahyaa (my name.)

[noyb5349]

kandoor wrote:

Why did allah create shaytan?

In the name of God.(I am NOT Muslim, if the words, "In the name of God" sound like I'm Muslim.)

According to the Teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad as taught by Minister Louis Farrakhan, Satan was made to purify man of the evil that is within him by afflicting him. See Bible Isaiah 48:10. All praise is due to Allah for the Honorable Elijah Muhammad.

[STEFANO COLONNA]

Q-D-S wrote:

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As to whether or not Aten answers is subject to your personal beliefs.
In answer to the above I got this:
Without the higgs boson particle force holding the molecular H2O water particles together they separate. Repealing the water particles apart is caused by the use of materialised opposite polarity particles. The properties of quantum physics of matter is not in a constant state of flux subjective to spinning particles phasing in and out of anti matter. The universal sub atomic micro consciousness within the mind is the macro consciousness of the universe. The creation of particules required to be opposite in polarity are created through the projection of energy vibrating greater than the speed of light to take form as a required positive or negative particle. To slow down this vibration rate the reverse happens and the particale returns to its neutral state of energy. These mass particles projected from a central energy source from within the micro consciousness begins to take shape within the macro consciousness of this universe. Hence the parting of the red sea through thought via the use of focused energy

Dividing the particles of water and dividing the water as described in the Bible are two different things.

[STEFANO COLONNA]

Q-D-S wrote:

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Will try and a answer this for you:
The one that cries for proof, whom you have asked all your life upon pain and suffering. As to why such people must suffer. You believe there is no living creator because he doesnt care about the world affairs and destruction of innocent victims. You have cursed upon the name of the creator for being omnipotent. Your wife who suffers pain, I say unto you forgive yourself as you are not to blame. These are predestin events which some say are karma. By calling out different pagan god names for help you summon them who are powerless to help. Calling upon the real name of the creator Aten, then you will have been answered.

Both your posts not answer to anything I asked. Personally I expected more by people who claim to be in contact with a deity.

[noyb5349]

kandoor wrote:

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why did allah ask satan to bown down to adam?
surely only allah is worthy of such devotion?

In the name of God.(I am NOT Muslim, if the words, "In the name of God" sound to you like I am Muslim.)

Dear kandoor,

The title of Adam given in the Holy Qur'an is "khalifa." That is a term that means "successor." According to the Life-Giving Teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, Adam or the Adamic White race was to stand in the place of Allah for a period of 6,000 years ("6 days") and on the seventh day Allah would come to end their rule. They were to rule with mischief-making and bloodshedding (Holy Qur'an 2:30) and the angels were to submit to Adam but Iblis did not. The Holy Qur'an (6:9) teaches us that the angels are human beings, so I'm guessing that Iblis is a proper name of an angel who did not want to bow to the rule of the Adamic race because he thought that he was better than White people. I haven't heard yet complete teachings from the Honorable Elijah Muhammad on Iblis, only that his mind of thinking that he was better for superficial reasons is the mind of Satan. That I learned from the National Representative of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, Minister Louis Farrakhan.

Peace.
Yahyaa (my name.)

[noyb5349]

Templar wrote:

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Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
Qur'an:9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."
Qur'an:9:29 "Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission."
Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah and all submit to the religion of Allah alone."
This is from your holly book.
Want more quotes?
Your allah promise non-muslims to dwell in hell for eternity.
your prophit muhamid killed, raped and enslaved many people.
And you want me to believe your evil god and respect your bloody prophet?
Get real!!!

In the name of God.(I am NOT Muslim.)

LOL. Funny how you take things out of context. I seriously advise that that is a bad practice. I didn't verify all of your quotes, but assuming they are correct renderings of the Qur'an, this also is what the Holy Qur'an says:

"(8)Allah forbids you not respecting those who fight you not for religion, nor drive you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly. Surely Allah loves the doers of justice.(9)Allah forbids you only respecting those who fight you for religion, and drive you forth from your homes and
help (others) in your expulsion, that you make friends of them; and whoever makes friends of them, these are the wrongdoers." (Holy Qur'an 60:8-9.)

Islam teaches that all who are peaceful with you are to be dealt with with respect, kindness, and justice. It teaches that never is the Muslim to be the aggressor but he or she must fight those who persecute him or her. If the Scriptures that you cited are accurate renderings of the Holy Qur'an, this (Holy Qur'an 60:9) is what they are referring to. And Muhammad did not rape anyone; I warn you that the suffering that you may be experiencing right now is due to your blashpeming the religion of God and the prophets of God.

[Frijoles]

HughBe wrote:

So what Salvation would COME OUT of Zion? Answer is Yeshuwah or the Salvation of Israel.

You have found a word...Now go out into the villages and spread it!

(Just dont complain to the rest of us if you get tar and feathered in the process.)

(and dont forget a hat, and to wear sunscreen (if you normally use it)).

[SamBee]

Frijoles wrote:

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You have found a word...Now go out into the villages and spread it!
(Just dont complain to the rest of us if you get tar and feathered in the process.)
(and dont forget a hat, and to wear sunscreen (if you normally use it)).

What is the name of your Creator?