Mexicans fear U.S. immigration plan

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here's another

http://www.infowars.com/articles/immigration/...

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Sorry, thought I had already changed threads

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zorro american wrote:

The US Army is recruiting Illegal Immigrants!
The US military says it has met its recruitment goals for 2007, with Illegal Immigrants, sending them to Iraq!
However, signing new soldiers is getting more difficult. New figures reveal there has been a 40 per cent drop in African-Americans signing up for the army.

There are no illegals in the military unless they used stollen Identity, thats the only way they could possibly get in. Don't make it seem like we are secretly enlisting mercenarys because its not true.
The 40% drop in African Americans has to do with Major League Baseball NOT the military.

Your such a zorro....

[Fed Up Citizen]

I work for the Federal Government, Veterans Administration. You NEED a SSN not just an ITIN to enlist. African Americans enlistment is down because there are not enough promotion of the BENEFITS of giving your life for your country.

[Jerseygirl345]

A Veteran from Reno, Nev. has hit headlines after he took matters into his own hands yesterday and tore down a Mexican flag that was being illegally flown above a U.S. flag at a local business.

Local news station krnv News 4 had received calls yesterday afternoon from angry residents complaining about the Mexican flag. When the station sent a reporter to investigate the Veteran took the opportunity to make a statement in front of the cameras.

The man commented "I'm Jim Brossert and I took this flag down in honor of my country with a knife from the United States army. I'm a veteran, I am not going to see this done to my country. if they want to fight us, then they need to be men, and they need to come and fight us, but I want somebody to fight me for this flag. They're not going to get it back."

The hispanic store owner who witnessed the incident would not make comment on camera but told krnv over the phone that he was flying the flag as a mark of solidarity to the hispanic community. Pro-immigration protests have been ongoing in the area all weekend after raids were conducted by authorities in the area last week.

No to illegal immigration...

[Jerseygirl345]

WASHINGTON (AFP)- For the scores of illegal migrants looking for a day job on a bustling highway outside Washington, any small risk of arrest was far outweighed by the potential reward: 10 to 20 times better pay for a day's work than if they were at home.

"Poverty in our countries is so great; there is just not enough to live on. This country is good for work. You can make 100 dollars a day, which would take at least three weeks" at home, Fredys Hernandez, 50, of Honduras, told AFP.

Hernandez is pleased that he can make money to send home, but plagued by the lingering anxiety about being deported that grips many undocumented workers.

no to illegal immigrants...

[Jerseygirl345]

From the L.A. Times:

1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County ( L.A. County has 10.2 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.

2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.

5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.

No to illegal imigration...

[Jerseygirl345]

Iowa’s United States Congressman Steve King told a crowd in Des Moines in June,“Illegal aliens cause the death of 25 American citizens every day…13 by drunken driving and 12 by stabbings or gun fire.”

That daily figure adds up to 9,125 deaths annually caused primarily by illegal alien Mexicans residing in America. Mike Rosen, radio talk show host in Denver, said it wasn’t significant when you consider our country of 300 million. A listener corrected him,“It’s not significant unless it’s your father or family member who gets killed.”

No to Illegal Immigration...

[Jerseygirl345]

The National Academy of Sciences estimated that each immigrant will result in a $100,000 net annual cost to taxpayers.

Rector said once illegal immigrants become citizens they can bring family members into the country, straining education and health care budgets.

"This Senate bill will become the largest expansion of the welfare system in 30 years and it's the wrong thing to do," he said.

Wayne Cornelius, director of the Center for Comparative Immigration Studies at UC San Diego, said tighter border security would not stop or even discourage migrants from crossing into the country.

"Even if they are caught, they try again until they are successful," Cornelius told the committee. "Our research shows that 92 to 97 percent of them succeed on the first or second try."

According to Cornelius, his research team interviewed 1,300 migrants over the last 18 months.

Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., the committee's chairman, said hospitals in the Southwestern United States are losing $190 million annually per year for uncompensated health care from illegal immigrants.

Los Angeles County Supervisor Mike Antonovich said "illegal immigration tears at the moral and economic fabric of the country."

"The fiscal drain is catastrophic," Antonovich said.

According to Antonovich, 12 percent of the 10.2 million residents of Los Angeles County are illegal immigrants.

Thirty percent of public health patients in the county are illegal immigrants, he testified.

The hearing is one in a series being held nationwide at a time when the Senate and House of Representatives are deadlocked over competing immigration legislation.

House Republicans beginning with Sensenbrenner argue that the Senate bill, which provides a pathway to eventual legalized status for some illegal immigrants, amounts to an amnesty.

No to illegal immigration..

[zorro american]

proudredneck wrote:

Mexico is at war with the U.S.A.
Mexico has been successful in obtaining sympathy with the U.S. Taxpayer and is winning the war to eventually take control of the U.S.A.
Heres how they did it:
1) Flood the U.S.A. with millions and millions of Mexicans to bankrupt the U.S.A. Social, Healthcare, Educational, Welfare system.
2) Mexico funds & supports Mexican-Americans to run for public office in the local, state and federal government to gain an authoritarian voice to get sympathy from the U.S.Taxpaying Citizen to divide our resolve to keep America sovereign.
3) Mexico entices U.S. Corporations to move manufacturing facilities to Mexico for cheap labor and low corporate taxes at the expense of American workers.
4) Mexico buys off Republican and Democrat Politicians by Lobbyists who have no moral or ethics for a strong American Economy.
5) N.A.F.T.A. only benefits Mexico in the long run. Cheaper goods for American buyers in the short haul but the trade off is weaker and fragile U.S. Economy.
6) The Iraqi war as taken the attention of the American Masses off the economic war with Mexico. The net effect has enabled Mexico to establish itself as the number one contender to actually take over the North American Continent without firing one shot.
7) The U.S.A. has had more wars with Mexico over territory than any other nation. Ours generation of U.S. Citizens have been lied to by our government, by big business and the Mexican Government without any news media alarm.
8) It may be too late to save the U.S.A. but it will take action now, tomorrow will be too late.

you sound troubled...this sounds like what the american indians thought of you.

[Jerseygirl345]

Senators Teddy Kennedy and Specter promoted Senate Bill 1932 bringing another 350,000 H-1B visas foreign workers into the USA with green cards to work American jobs.

That’s on top of the already 1.1 million legal immigrants they approve annually. And, that’s on top of the 1.0 million H-1B, H-2B and L-1 visas ALREADY HERE! Bush did not raise a finger to stop another 350,000 of that insanity. He must get a kick out of seeing Americans lose their jobs to foreigners!

In the meantime, even Democratic Senator Byrd of West Virginia got so sick of the 350,000 H-1B visas that he offered an amendment to strip the bill of the visas. Your Senate voted to delete Byrd’s amendment and passed the 350,000 H-1B visas by 84 to 14 votes. Your own senators voted to screw 350,000 American workers out of a job.

No to Amnesty...

[Kurt]

Illegals have to go by deportation - the best way to eradicate them.

[NE Red]

Fed Up Citizen wrote:

I work for the Federal Government, Veterans Administration. You NEED a SSN not just an ITIN to enlist. African Americans enlistment is down because there are not enough promotion of the BENEFITS of giving your life for your country.

Thank you for telling us the truth. Now let's hope others "not in the know, who really don't know" will keep quiet! I'll forgive you for working for the Federal Government, but applaud you for working for the VETS! Anthing we can do on Topix such as things the vets need? Ask and we'll take it from here! God Bless America!

[NE Red]

Jerseygirl345 wrote:

Senators Teddy Kennedy and Specter promoted Senate Bill 1932 bringing another 350,000 H-1B visas foreign workers into the USA with green cards to work American jobs.
That’s on top of the already 1.1 million legal immigrants they approve annually. And, that’s on top of the 1.0 million H-1B, H-2B and L-1 visas ALREADY HERE! Bush did not raise a finger to stop another 350,000 of that insanity. He must get a kick out of seeing Americans lose their jobs to foreigners!
In the meantime, even Democratic Senator Byrd of West Virginia got so sick of the 350,000 H-1B visas that he offered an amendment to strip the bill of the visas. Your Senate voted to delete Byrd’s amendment and passed the 350,000 H-1B visas by 84 to 14 votes. Your own senators voted to screw 350,000 American workers out of a job.
No to Amnesty...

Kennedy has to keep an ample supply for the Kennedy Compound. Spector is dispicable.

[True Moral Conservative]

Mexican's aren't the problem. Lou Dobbs might have people to believe that but it's simply not true. Mexicans don't hire themselves. that means that employers are the problem.

Illegal labor wouldn't come here if people weren't hiring. This country doesn't crack down on companies, because the gov't are in bed with companies. NAFTA proved that. It allowed companies and jobs to just go over international lines. I've said this before. York Peppermint Patties is going to Mexico? Why, because the gov't made it easy.

Tighten up on the companies and there will be jobs. Right now, Americans are going to have to stop the petty crap and take care of Americans.

[roadscholar]

HERE I COME wrote:

CAN SOMEONE HELP US GET THE I D PAPERS AND FOOD STAMPS WHEN WE GET THERE PLEASE?THANK YOU.
I LOVE USA!WE ARE ON OUR WAY IN THE MORNING.EVERYONE IS LEAVING HERE ITS A MAD HOUSE.PRAY FOR OUR SAFE JOURNEY.THANK YOU WONDERFULL PEOPLE.

Yeah..good luck with that. I'll pray that you're not held hostage by your mule, sent out to suffer across a desert or forced to witness the rape of your pre-teen daughter. That has been the sad fate of many who have undertaken your journey. These are some of the dangers that you face in dealing with criminals to become criminals. Once you get here, please be aware that you will live as a fugitive from justice. Every single day you will face the risk of being arrested and deported, if you have children you risk losing them forever every single time you leave your house. Still sound appealing? Would it be "worth it"?

[Kurt]

NE Red wrote:

<quoted text> Kennedy has to keep an ample supply for the Kennedy Compound. Spector is dispicable.

Ted "Splash" Kennedy may have written his last Pro-ILlegal bill.

[Dr Joseph Gobels]

Kurt wrote:

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Ted "Splash" Kennedy may have written his last Pro-ILlegal bill.

I hope so.

[Constitutionalis t]

Our Arkansas Governor wont obey the Constutional oath he was sworn to obey, See this story also on TOPIX.

Beebe says he cannot support illegal immigration measure.

http://www.topix.com/state/ar/2008/05/beebe-s...

impeachment anyone.?

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True Moral Conservative wrote:

Mexican's aren't the problem. Lou Dobbs might have people to believe that but it's simply not true. Mexicans don't hire themselves. that means that employers are the problem.
Illegal labor wouldn't come here if people weren't hiring. This country doesn't crack down on companies, because the gov't are in bed with companies. NAFTA proved that. It allowed companies and jobs to just go over international lines. I've said this before. York Peppermint Patties is going to Mexico? Why, because the gov't made it easy.
Tighten up on the companies and there will be jobs. Right now, Americans are going to have to stop the petty crap and take care of Americans.

I agree with you that our Government is a problem...but basically you're forgiving the illegal aiens transgressions because their negative bahavior was made easy? It is easy for me too, to invade my neighbors house. I don't do that. It is profitable, but I have morals.

Many negative behaviors can be written off as an attribute of bad up bringing or influences. The truth be told, we all know bad from good. Some people choose bad because it's easy.

You don't need to give them an excuse, sir. They will make up their own.